 Miss George dropping revelations of good ol' stealing in Nigeria. They have been calls for sacking of the head of Nigeria's military, but are these calls justified? Also on the breakfast, Nigeria's Independence National Electoral Commission has raised concern over the rising spate of violent clashes among political parties and their supporters. And of the press, we'll have in-depth analysis of today's major newspaper headlines of these ahead on the breakfast. And ah, you've got us already. Welcome to the programme, my name is Kofi Bartels. And I am Messy Ibubo. It's good to have you join us. It feels like it's a blue Monday. But it's not Monday, it's already Wednesday. And thanks for joining us. Alright, interesting conversations ahead. Of course, I can't wait to dive straight into the first one. But our top training segment is where we usually would look at stories that are making the rounds on social space and bringing you, you know, that kind of information. What people are talking about the most is what we call the trending story. And it has to be something that is really, really recent. And one of the recent ones, the current one, something to be what happens to be the head of the Nigerians in diaspora commission, NIDCOM, journalist and turned politician, Madame Abikeh Dabiri Erewa. Of course, following the attack on Nigerians students in Indian universities, there was a long, long, long one statement put out by some of the victims. And this got a lot of people talking on social media, really. Now, following the attack on students of an Indian, Nigerian students of an Indian university, the lady in question, the chairman of NIDCOM, got involved in a dirty fight with an obedient supporter on Twitter. This is a supporter of the PTOB movement. You know, this particular category of persons know how to drag people on social media, sparing their efforts in, you know, seeing what they think. Sometimes they've got it as being a bit too extreme. But on Monday, this is two days ago, there were multiple reports that some Nigerian students at GD, Gwengar University in Gurgam, India were attacked. And there were some sort of statements and tweets shared online to that effect. Very interesting, a very worrying weather development. Images also popped up on social media showing some Indian students with weapons chasing the Nigerian counterparts. Now, reacting to that development, Tabikeh at Dabiri Rewa, I explained that the incident happened on Saturday, October 15, 2022, following a football match between African and Indian students. And this is what she put out in her tweet. After someone called Ashok Swain on Twitter shared a tweet saying Nigerian students are being attacked in a university campus near Delhi. 30,000 Nigerian students come to study in India paying money. 50,000 Indians live in Nigeria to make money. So she now quoted that tweet to say, this happened Saturday as a result of a fracker during a football match between African and Indian students. A Nigerian mission immediately took custody of 86 Nigerian students invited, the representatives of the Indian government and got their commitment to ensure the safety of the students, who then returned back to campus on Sunday. That's what she explained. She used to occasionally mess with the call for calm, saying normalcy had been restored. However, people were not taking that line down. Some of the people on Twitter asked very tough questions to Tabikeh Dabiri Rewa. But one of the students, the Twitter users, who identifies as a supporter of Peter Obidi, a Labour Party presidential candidate verbally abused Tabikeh, describing her as, quote, a mumu woman. And this is what she says, he or she says, mumu, quote. She said she should go to Indonesia and see how Nigerians are treated. Mumu woman supporting a failed government. She is equally part of the failure. I say mumu is a Pigeon English term for a word, for a foolish person. So three hours after Tabikeh fired back in the same call, and describing the obedient as this Peter Obidi supporter, as Odeh. Odeh is the word for a foolish person. And this is what she says. My God, Odeh, you go to Indonesia, carry drugs, do cultism and come begging to be rescued from death sentence. Thank God for Andy, Ellie and Nigeria now saving people like you from death row. It was a serious back and forth. And a comment to that obedient supporter generated a huge deluge of response. Most of this, it was fiery and salty remarks, insults on the woman's person character and her conduct when called it that. Well, so I think that, you know, Abikeh's response has made a lot of persons to go back in time, you know, in terms of memory, memory lane to remember, you know, some of the activities that have happened. Some people who remember the Itunus case in a Côte d'Ivoire, am I correct, Côte d'Ivoire that happened and they said, you know, her attitude and her response towards that time. It's almost the same. People are not really surprised. You have a lot of people responding and asking that, hey, you can't be surprised. The best thing to do is to ensure that you vote at her party. She's been like that. There's a certain, you know, tweets that came out on Twitter that said, how can you be surprised when she was, she retweeted a tweet. There's a certain tweet that has been, that has resurfaced, that talked about her describing the Igbo's. I mean, so someone tweeted and said, Nya Mary and all of that. She retweeted that tweet. And what is expected of a public official or someone who holds a very, you know, sensitive office as that. I mean, it's okay to say people will get, you know, under your skin, you understand, but we also cannot take out the other fact, but it should be, should we have a class 101, you know, for all of this to understand the dynamics. Like I mentioned, it has made a lot of people remember the likes of Mubala Johnson, who were government officials, Dora Kunyele. And just some days back, I mentioned Dora Kunyele. Yeah, Mubala J. Johnson. Yeah, Mubala J. Johnson. I also mentioned, you know, the likes of Dora Kunyele. This particular action has made a lot of people to remember their likes. And for instance, like I said, we talked about some issue, and then I remembered, you know, Dora Kunyele, who was very, very, you know, interested in changing the narrative of the Nigerian people and the Nigerian society as it were. You know, not to say that the Nigerian society or the Nigerian climate and her people, perfect people, but to, you know, point to the fact that, hey, crime and criminality actually happen, but we cannot, you know, go out there and begin to say, my child is wrong, you know, kill the child because it's bad. You know, try to protect the image. And she's gotten a lot of knocks for this particular one. Now, one person that has responded as well and asked her to clean this mess up. In her words, I'm paraphrasing at this point because I probably might not, okay, be able, it's obi ezequissili. And she said, yeah, be careful. What is this? Kai, this is a mess. Please clean it up quickly, please. And she responded, I'm done on this, but out of respect for you, I will ask, clean what up? It's okay for some untrained, unclouded guy to refer to me as Mumu. And I can't call him or dare. I'm not a public official that couse to bullying, please. This her respond, but people are not really surprised. And the question is, should we do better? Was it okay for her to be referred to as Mumu? It's not really okay, but she needs to understand, you know, the position and office that she occupies really. It's really unfortunate, but that's what we have. We need to move away quickly for the winter time. But before we go on, I think I'll just say a word or two about this. It's a bit of a situation where you have a public servant who has had, you know, some controversy trailing her. Like you mentioned, Mercy, the itunew story was heated. I remember a conversation that ensued between Abikeh Dabri and David Hounday on a radio station I'm familiar with. And it wasn't, it didn't really show or paint woman in good light. What I would say is that she's a human being. She has feelings. And I do not know anybody who will take being called a Mumu woman or Mumu person lightly. And I noticed that in recent times the public servants, governors, senators and heads of MDAs have decided to do fire for fire on Twitter. You can see Senator Ken and Amman, the former governor of Enigo State, how he handles some of these young people, some of them not so young with the abuse and attack on social media. He gives it back to them hot-hot and then some of them actually run away. You have the likes of Malam Nasir Arofa, governor of Kaduna State recently, took on some supporters of Peter Obi and he quoted some of the tweets and called the man a clown. And some said, you are a governor and I shouldn't be saying this. And he said, well, nobody has monopoly of violence. However, I think it's important for Madam Abikeh Dabri or Erewa to realize that sometimes it's not worth it. It's not worth it. I mean, I'm not talking now about whether she's done her job well or not but how you respond to the bullying online because it's downright bullying. It's cyber-bullying, really. It's calling people names. They saw the supporters of these political parties and not just Labour Party, a few that they can hound people into hating some candidates or supporting some candidates or into taking it stationed off of their candidates. So the final thing we can say on this is that the public officials need to also control themselves and realize that it's not worth it. If you see some of the people who react or who talk or who tweet about these things, you will be disappointed that you actually took your time to dignify them with the response. We have to move on to our next tough training segment. Yeah, definitely, because the issue of bullying is not limited to politicians and those who are supporting different political parties. But a quick one, running through this particular one, is that the governor, Erufei, seemed to have an early throwback just before Thirsty. I'm not sure that event happened on Thirsty. So he was in a situation where he had to recount or talk about his experience when he was detained during the 2013 Anambra governorship elections. That was way back, really. So he shared his experience. He was in the province of Kaduna state, like I mentioned, Nasir Erufei. He said that he was arrested and his movement restricted on the day of election. That's the Anambra state election, 2013. He shared his experience. And that happened some days back during an interactive session with the Arawa Joint Committee. He said, I recall experiencing when I was an official of the All Progressive Congress. I wanted to go in to have breakfast with the SSS officials holding AK-47, threatening me that I have directed from Abuja to... or they have directed from Abuja to restrict me to my room. And I said, on what basis? And they said, that's their directive. Well, let me tell you, Nigeria is a democratic country. I have freedom to move and intend to move. I intend to go anywhere, and you won't stop me. The very idea of restricting movement on election days and law form. I also, we've seen reports from, you know, he's currently the Labour presidential candidate for the elections 2023, talking about Bita Abe. He said that, hey, you need to focus on the issues and stop with all of these lies and propaganda and blackmailing and whatever. And that's the issue. Kofi? Yes, indeed. I mean, I've seen the stories now for a couple of days. But what caught my attention was the back and forth between Arawa Fai and supporters of Labour Party presidential candidate. You know, this Arawa Fai's walk down the memory lane or history lane is because of the appearance and the campaigns by Pita Abe, the Labour Party presidential candidate. And we've talked about this the second time. It means it's quite popular. To Kaduna State, of course, the Arawa Forum has been inviting or has invited the top presidential candidates to come make presentations at the Arawa House at the Amadoubello University in Kaduna State. And Abe was one of them. So, I mean, of course, Arawa Fai was there when the APC presidential candidate Bola Matinobu made his own submission at that event. You know, they hosted them separately. Tico has been there as well. And he had to say, see, this happened and you were part of those who incarcerated me. So if I do the same thing to you, I'm not going to stop playing. But some people think this is all in the bid to score political points. It's campaign season and some people think this is part of the gamesmanship, you know, of the political campaign period where politicians would use every opportunity, you know, to paint the opponents black, to cast doubts over the question, the character of the opponents, and it's normal. But the thing is, is it true? Or did Abe order his incarcerated detention for 40 hours in his hotel room, or did Abe support it? The fact is that Arawa Fai was actually kept in that hotel room for the period of time he said he was kept. That is a fact. Now, but what the jury is out on is if Abe ordered it, or did he just, was he just a victim of circumstance being the governor of Anambra State at the time? So someone said, you know, put out on Twitter a tweet saying, quote Arawa Fai, this is a Tutsi-22, saying Arawa Fai is a compulsive liar. This is a video of him saying that he was arrested by the SSS based on an order from Abuja, yet he lied in Arawa House that Abe arrested him in Anambra State. This is why his hands can't reach his feet to tie his shoe laces. In other words, saying that maybe he's a shot man, you know, because he's called shot and over. But Arawa Fai didn't allow that good. It's just a random Twitter user. He had to quote the tweet and respond to it saying, it says yes, but you're a little god, you know, in small g, Peter will be later revealed on national TV and he said, we have the video clip that he got the unlawful detention affected and said I had no right to be in Anambra State since it was not considered state. This is his words, the clown didn't even know that I am from Kalluna State. So what Arawa Fai now went on to say is that yes, I admitted on national TV that it was based on an order from above in Abuja, but what you don't know and what I should tell you is that there is a clip of Abe, Abe actually said that he affected that detention order. So he's part of it. People, just finally, people sharing evidence for negates, you know, Abe denying it the television program, the shared clips of that, some saying that Arawa Fai was only being salty because of Abe's support that he received in Kalluna State. But one of some supporters of Arawa Fai have gone back to share screenshots of headlines. For instance, there's one here from the leadership in Abuja, 16th November 2013 with the headline Anambra, Guba, Governor, Bebach's Police Restriction of Arawa Fai. So I think this is part of the gamesmanship, like I said. I think that you have raised some interesting questions and some of the questions you raise is whether or not that's the situation. That's the case. We have to move on really because if you say I ordered, who controls the DSS? Who controls the DSS? Who controls the DSS? Who does the DSS answer to? Who does the military officer answer to? These are some of the questions that you have raised that would require more engagement. But we do not have time. We probably need to move to the other one. Well, very quickly the Lagos State Governor and the River State Governor, having a romantic relationship. Yes, we have received a Governor, at least two times at his proling mansion in Port Hacott's River State and it was now the turn of Samo Lutuhost a week of River State and indeed, we came to Lagos and he's a PDP Governor and this is campaign period and the PDP has a candidate in Lagos State but it was at that event right here in Lagos State and he made some very important and some controversial statements he said that Samo Lutuhost has done well as Governor of Lagos State and he declared his support for Samo Lutuhost's reelection bid. He said, if you're a PDP Governor and you're not doing well I will not visit you but even if you're not a PDP Governor if you're doing well, I will visit you but we can also, I am doing well but another thing that generated some reaction messy happens with a donation of 300 million Naira by the River State Governor this was an event which held at a hotel in Lagos, not from where we are organized by the committee of wives of Lagos State officials called so, I think can call that that, call it that so he said all the nice things about Samo Lutuhost that he's doing well but very importantly he also donated Naira to the association and the River Supples have been reacting to this I must tell you that, you know they have been reacting to this they will definitely react to this and you also have the People's Democratic Party Lagos State Chapter condemning the fact that like you say, it's a romance or the relationship between the Governor of River State and that of Lagos State it's very condemnable and they have really frowned at it and some of the statement has been put out no matter what's going on in the party whether or not are you should be removed or not removed, it's not enough for you to, you know, act in this way I think what they said was they will make us all who jobless in Lagos State so he made a lot of statements I mean, nobody can he doesn't think that any party can actually win but how would you describe the action of the River State Governor that can categorically you know, the snow sugarcoating in this particular one it's really an anti-party kind of politics that's being played out openly and why would you know the River State Governor engage in such a practice it's an open, you know, expression you are of the PDP, you have a Governor a calibre of that, once upon a time contested at the at the internal level to become a flag bearer presidential flag bearer that can happen there's a lot that's expected of Wikain and he's not lived up to that expectation and that can categorically can be said as an anti-party kind of activity, but what happens some people think that this is actually deliberate effort by Wikain himself so that the party would take an action and so he can just move away let's not forget the re-anticipation you know, the re-anticipation that he should have left I mean, if you look at it and nobody seemed to believe and the best thing that every the greatest move that any politician would take would be hey, I would decamp, leave the party but what has Wikain done Wikain has not left the party Wikain is still in the party now why are you acting contrary to the principles and the general practice that's expected are you expecting that he should expel can you not grace an occasion by no, that's not necessarily an occasion this is a statement that was released by the chief you know, press secretary of and that's why it's generating a lot of this action let's quickly just watch you roll the tape and then we'll come back so, for me if you're in my party you're not doing well, you won't see me if you're not in my party you're doing well, you will see me and that is what I stand for and I will not regret that I'm in support of you he said his administration has continued to emulate legal state by ensuring that women are all right, Mr. quite interesting I'll just take a few minutes or a few seconds sorry to read some of the comments of viewers because it seems they're not happy just one comment some are not happy about the development some says that some someone said you know in reaction to this comment the governor says if you're not doing well I won't visit you he said I don't believe my governor he went to Abia state and currently maintains a healthy romance or romance rather with Governor Pazzo now he's Governor Pazzo doing well it's a question someone asks which made me laugh a lot someone says he's doing the payback time he's working for Tinibu so these are the issues someone said a pensioner's death benefits of necks of kings in river state are crying every day at the state secret myself included nothing is happening that's also come next week with a here yet 300 million naira gone just like that the river civil don't spare any 14 bearing their minds, we have to go we really have to go, I mean if we won't talk about that we probably might not just live here today a lot of people also think that there's need for those who are experiencing have been submerged and propped as in the flood and they need all of this money but we need to take a breakdown when we turn it will be time for us to go through the pages please stay with us, we'll be right back