 Have you seen the new... I only say this because I saw it, not because I went out of my way to see it. What? We saw West Side Story last night. How was it? It was very good. I wanted it to be great. No it wasn't. It was very good. It has some problems. So it was the original, like the white people. Yeah. It's true. Keep it right for me. It's up, Corbin. I'm Rick. What I was going to say is the new trailer for Matrix Resurrection. Oh did that drop? It dropped. Oh really? Yeah, and I... I didn't avert my eyes while we were in the movie theater. Oh really? It played. It was really great. Yeah, I still need to watch the second and third one. Yeah, I haven't seen the second one. And Johnny, we're going to watch just to see... You're all on HBO. You got to see all three really to be prepared because I'm sure they're going to reference all three films, but for sure need to see the first one. Especially now that I've seen where they're going with the trailer on this. But you really do. Before you go see Resurrection, if you haven't seen them, you need to see the three Matrix films. And it's also dropping on HBO. But what I'm happy for is obviously, yes, I got to see Priyanka's in this one. But it looks like they've done their best to try and do stuff with visual effects because this is the Matrix. That caused you to go, wow. There's a lot of visual effects stuff that's just wow in this trailer. Yeah. Looking forward to that. Yep. Okay, let's shut this off. Congrats to the happy couple. Oh, thank you. We're now married for what? We're going on a month and a half now. No, thanks Corbin. I'm talking to... It's so sweet of them to talk about our marriage. I'm talking to Katrina Kaif and Vicky Kershaw. Bastard. Congratulations. Congratulations. Yes, yes. My adorable pictures. So... And Johnny was just showing that to me in the car. She's like, yeah. So this is one of those tape casts. Oh, awesome. Yes. We've seen a few, but we'll... Kalki and Anurag. Kalki and Anurag, yeah. I think some people say this is where they met. This very thing? I could be wrong. This is their Ramleela? It might be. Wow. You let me know. I don't know. I've just been to... Which I know that's not where they met, but it's where they fell in love. Um, but so this is a little interview with them to kind of celebrate their little special day. Happy day. Yeah, which we weren't invited to. Yeah. I mean, I don't think anybody was. Well, you know what? They're not our ghosts yet. So they get off on this. And then I heard it was like this like crazy like security, like fortress kind of thing, like like phones running around. I'm not surprised. That happens a lot actually at weddings here for celebrities and even parties. You have to leave your phone at the door with security. That's crazy. Yeah. Anyways, so let's do this. Which is not a bad idea. No, definitely not. Do you know? Hi. This is a great place to meet each other. That's exactly what I was going to say. Did you ever imagine that the first time you're going to sit across each other and talk about each other's lives? It's going to be record. No, I think next time someone asks me that I will realize that potentially it can be very difficult, but I think it's a good place to... In a shirt? What is it? It's Popeye. On camera? Sure. Yeah. So should we start? I think so. Should we play the... Are you going first? I mean, we actually have to... Should we do together, right? Yeah. Okay. Katrina Kaif and Vicky Koshow. Welcome to K-Cast. You both had a fascinating journey to Stardom and they look forward to discovering the truth through your drive and motivation. This is super cute. He was going to marry her. See if the moment happens where the sparks start to fly. Vicky, will you pick the first question? Sure. What would you give her as learning from your past mistakes? Mistakes! Mistakes! So in the beginning that I was trying to do with her was kind of make her do everything that I had done and I was trying to kind of advise her almost very similarly into all the things and all the routes that I had kind of taken in my life and thinking that, okay, this is... I don't even think I did it consciously. It just was happening. A similar plan. And then a similar plan. Thinking, okay, this is the way, this is the kind of way that I know. This is the way that I think will work for her to be successful. And then now she's been here for about, I think, eight or nine months. The best thing I can do for her as a sister is allow her to discover her own voice and allow her to discover who she is rather than trying to make her into a person who I think works for this industry or for any industry. Authenticity is always what works. Always. She's shooting for a film right now? No, she's just about completing a film. And she's... Oh, she's already... Yeah, she's kind of just about in completion for a film. She's done so. Wow. Best wishes to her. Thank you. Okay, so now I'm picking up... He's enamored. You. The general consensus seems to be that what works in your favor is your boy next door vibe, that you're approachable, reachable, and attainable. But as you become more successful... Oh, really? How do you continue to be these things? I guess by not taking success to your hands. It's interesting. I'm not far from as the boy next door. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, that would be a sinking feeling than a feeling that would get comfortable with it. To be very honest, I know I've been able to be part of good films and films that have made me reach out to a wider audience. I still go to cafes and malls and restaurants and do the same things that I used to do a year back. So, and it's... And it's also sometimes you have to realize that all they want also is just a couple of seconds from your life. You know, all they ask for is a selfie, all they do is like a compliment to you. That's all they do. And I guess I'll just lose myself if I lose all those things. You know, just that relatability because that also I feel is an asset to me as an actor. You really need to have people around you who really kind of firstly know you for who you are, not the actor or not the professional side of you, but just who you are. And keep bringing it back to your reality. You know, sometimes it's just my mom who will just see a certain change in the walk in one frame. She'll just be playing on a Sudoku in the newspaper and she'll just be looking at me, staring at me and she'll just be... So, okay. Star one, yeah. And I'll be like, okay. So, you know, so I just... It's also a lot to do with the people you're surrounded with and just keep... Just be focused on your work. That's it. You know, I am the same Vicky Kaushal that I was. It's just... Okay, they just liked me for my performances in the past few films. So, you know, I'm getting all that love and affection which I'm very grateful of. But I should just be... I mean, this is the time I know that I can't take things for granted. Yeah, that's the biggest mistake people do. They lose focus on what it was that was working for them. And also there's this, you know, there's this beautiful poem called If by Rudyard Ki Plain. Success and failure just the same. Just the same. And just... There's this beautiful one. He's called success and failure as imposters. Which is so true. Which is so true, you know. And if you learn how to treat both of them the same, that's the trick. So, and I treat... I generally try to do that. Try to treat success or the times when I was generally just knocking around doors and just trying to meet people and asking for work. But one time it's just such great times when you look back at them. Or do you find that... It scares me. Oh, does? Yeah, it does. It does. It makes me value my present even more. Because that time actually it was fun. That's what... Yeah, when you're doing that, you're just free. Yeah, you're just free. You're fearless. You're just like... You're fearless because there's nothing to lose. You have nothing there to do. You know, and you're just doing it for the love of what you want to do. And now it just... When you look back at it, it just makes you value this time even more, you know? And that's why you just don't end up taking it for granted. I like what you said about your mom. I think she sounds like she's a very wise woman and she checks you out and says... He's like... I would like to read my mother. She's like, hey, he likes his mom. He references his mom, okay? Point. Play. Karan Johar recently declared that it's the age of the actor and not the age of the star anymore. You've been a star for more than a decade. What is your response to that? I think it's always been the age of the actor. I think there is no such thing as a generic star. I genuinely feel that. I disagree. I don't believe it's possible for any actor and the public persona to sustain for a very long period of time the public's interest unless they have been able to hold them by the craft that they are doing. Earlier it was just you and your movies. The audience didn't see you on platforms. No one could get her out just on Starlight Friday. They have to have some... In the cinema. And that was for me which was the majority of Dwayne Johnson. It's not been around that long. Also he makes some stuff. Everyone's out of their time. Everyone wants to come. They come to the cinema to be engaged or entertained or to feel a certain way. So if what you're doing is holding them then that means that they are connecting to something that you're saying. I think the probably the best way for me to put it is beyond the points a little bit like what you said I don't really take it all too seriously. I don't sit here when open a book and say okay now this is the age of the actor and now people are doing these kind of roles and now people are doing these kind of roles and in the last X years this is what I've done and I'm more of a popular star or am I more of this someone. I don't bifurcate it like that. It's not my job to tell you what I am. It's your job to see me and decide what I do for you. I think that you just can't take all the responsibility, the credit, the pressure, the acknowledgement and think that it's all us that are doing it. So I don't get too particular into which tag and who's this star and who's a superstar and at one point you're a superstar and now it's the age of this person and oh my god what will we do and where we don't. I don't get into that. I just try and I try and remain like I think for you you said it's your family that keep you grounded and you have those people around you who tell you that. I try and just keep coming back to where's my center and what's true for me. However that you know however I find that center for me and see what is exciting to me at this point. There was a kind of a phase recently where I realized that in a particular genre I was not happy when I was there anymore and it was a space that I had done for a long time and all of a sudden I just kind of had this really overwhelming feeling that this particular kind of see you know projection which is required for this genre was not it was not exciting to me anymore and simply as basic as the fact that I've done it. I've done it now. So now for me what only thing I'm trying to do is look for things that excite me. After a certain amount of time you've also done and you've seen many of the beats. You've seen all the beats that are there so now what's going to challenge you and for me I realized right now I think it's the places where I feel that I'm learning something. Where I feel that I'm learning something new. Either the director is teaching me or even if the director is just the person capturing it. It's the people I'm trying to gather around me who are working with me. Do they have something I can learn? Can they teach me something new? So that for me is how I've made this chapter in my life exciting for me is by trying to see where can I change things up where can I make it new for myself and if I feel that it's new for me and interesting for me then the audience will continue with you on that journey. How is it for you to kind of gauge that because that shift from knocking doors to this literally super style that you became and just that shift. How was that for you? It's because it was so gradual I think it's exactly what you're saying that there are a lot of people who are in our industry who are my colleagues that came in around the same time as me and they came with that one big grand launch film and all the magazine said you know next big thing this thing and you have those people but for me it wasn't like that it was one small role in a film then one small thing then this then that for me though I do remember the first time that I had gotten like a lot of that's a joke you know when you notice that people are speaking a lot of he's looking into her soul something was the film called I'm still under it's what he's doing that was the first time that I think people I felt that oh you know oh this is fun this is nice of course before that there was some song which was very funny but it became popular at that time called Just Chill so that song was popular you know what you're talking about your songs reminds me of something I was in an acting institute this was back in 2009 second half of 2009 and one of our exercises was to look into the camera and dance on as in like we had to express it to the camera and dance on Teri Hoor look into the camera and be all okay so you're supposed to take the vibe of the song and the camera's the girl obviously it's not nice so that's the beauty of the girl and then you have to act it out so it's just you talking about your songs just reminding me of that because I have done that to a camera in that acting institute okay this is really funny I'm just imagining all these poor students in that camera and what if what if so the guy is obviously poaching Akshay's part and the camera's the girl no it was your interpretation or whatever you feel like it was your interpretation of the song it was also being this is very interesting it was just free just just it was like a movement thing it was like a movement class yeah just like so basically one could say that in a small way I've had a a fairly large hand in helping you craft your you could say that you could say that oh no they already have a bunch of chemistry you should not play for you I'm going to take a guess I just want to ask you very interested to know that as actors there's always one or several genres that really terrify us that we feel that we can't do justice to but still we want to kind of like pick it off our bucket list keeping in mind the variety of work that you do and you continue to do I really want to know is do you have that one genre that really scares you and if it is something that really terrifies you is your approach to it that you want to do it and conquer it or do you just stay away from it so as a co-artist and as a big fan of yours I really want to know what is that one genre that scares you I'm actually currently shooting for a film which is in the horror genre playing a normal before this comedy was a genre that used to really scare me because I feel no I wouldn't stay away but that's the one that I'm much more control and a character either you get it right or you're completely off it yeah last price you mentioned comedy is I think the trickiest genre to play with because which I don't know which I'm learning as I'm shooting for this film because is it cool when you're doing an emotional scene or a dramatic scene you know that you've hit an honest note somewhere down the line in comedy also you feel that either you've missed it or you've hit that note but in horror you never really you always play acting you always play acting and you're always imagining okay you know this is the ghost so this is this is what we have to imagine and then there's going to be a team of VFX which is actually going to create what do you give that reaction to and then there's movement and then you have to create your own world and all those elements are coming into play so this is something that I was not prepared for you know that okay it's always going to be that play act I'm always going to know that I'm going to give this care moment I'm always going to know that I am walking normally and then there's going to be a sudden sound in the back to which I have to react which didn't actually happen which I have to imagine and take that cue myself and then do that VFX you won't have also imagine the intensity of it you know that could be created later but that intensity might not match the intensity that I had kept in my head so all of that is a very tricky space so I I really want to would want to explore it soon ahead you know not immediately but soon ahead and then use this experience of mine into that and then take it forward you know so I guess it's horror now yeah I do agree that that sounds like the toughest genre ever I'm going to pick up set you know the challenge it might be in Gandalf because you had to do it all along yeah it was so big you've emerged as a mature and confident individual who can hit it out of the park with a role like Papita Kumari in Zero what enabled you to reach this place I think I think what life brings to you what life throws at you pretty much everything that I imagined could not happen happened you know all the things that you imagined this should not happen this should not happen the things you try and guard and protect and keep those were the all the things that I had was trying to focus on so much and protecting and keeping were all the things that disintegrated or you know did not work out or went away and then I think it's that moment where you kind of are faced with everything you fear and you realize that it's not so bad it's like the it's it's like you had overhyped in your life yeah you I think that's what that's what fear is that fear is mostly just an illusion it's never really unless the actual ghost in your horror film comes in front of you it's never really that the thing that you fear is that bad sometimes you think you don't realize it at all until later and then you realize before you know it you're in this whole kind of structure of something and it's not purely just creative it's not purely just your work it's kind of all convoluted and then when that kind of disintegrates then you kind of come back to after the unsettling phase you come back to a place then again of not a feeling really fearless and not having so many kind of rules for yourself and so many things that you're living under and I think with that with that kind of came for me a new a kind of a renewed interest and excitement in what I was doing at my work because I think for me I went through a phase of it's kind of like what you said where I feel that when you're on set and when you're when you're working it takes it consumes everything of you I think there's very very little left for anything and anyone else and if you don't really have everything to give then I think you're going to be weak in those in those in those films or in that period of time so I think just trying to find where is it that you feel that this is a place where I feel good about myself and I feel good being here but did that happen while you were playing Bobita or did that happen before and then you got into the Bobita that for that particular role I think Anand Rai was super for Ziro he was always sure he wanted me to do that like he came to me about two and a half years before the film started and I I said at that point I was supposed to do both the roles it was a double role and when he came back to me I was like Anand so you took away half my role so we were like at loggerheads for a while like you know in the nicest possible way I was like Anand said no no no this and he explained me his vision he explained to me the way his vision had kind of changed and of course I think he's one of the best directors we have and he was so clear and precise you know that he was like you're going to find it if you just you know kind of if you just submit yourself to this process you're going to find it it was a really hard process though because when you're coming on set and you're supposed to be drunk and brokenhearted and really distraught at a really low you're vulnerable you're at a loss you feel very unhappy and you you have you don't have like you know your self-esteem is not on the highest thing and you're drunk and I didn't want that to look fake and you can't really fake that I mean it's it's tough it's tough if you're just going to completely just be out there to kind of switch it on and off so when we used to come on set there used to be like an hour an hour and a half that me and Anand sir would just sit and talk sometimes it was about something related to what we were doing sometimes it wasn't but he always knew you know that's a brilliance of a good director you wouldn't have to touch him yeah he always knew which road to kind of push me down like kind of gently gently gently and then kind of just let it let it play out the only tough thing was because of the CG there was long periods between each shot so let's say you know did you mean say it even from a mid to a profile sometimes that could be like hours I think out of everything I've I've done recently that was something which really excited me like it was it was really fun to do that using also because it became like kind of an outlet for you to express what you have inside to just do it through a character because that sometimes happens with me and I really like juice it out because I just have this garb of playing a character but I really wanted like for me now I've kind of understood it in a different way now which perhaps I kind of had a different way of approaching things earlier but now I feel that whatever it is I may I personalize it in a very very real way to meet on my level so it doesn't matter if something is sad how is it sad to me personally in that sense but I also just like the freedom I like the freedom that he wanted I like that the incorrectness of everything just like that thing of because also you're drunk it also just allowed you to kind of just not have to do everything the right way and that was yeah being perfect yeah that was just the most liberating experience that was the word I was looking for so now I'm going to pick one of these for you this one is industry okay what have you learned about things one shouldn't do from the artist around you don't be late that's a great one don't show your problem firstly it's so taking yourself as an actor too seriously and creating like this atmosphere that oh my god this is serious actor on set who needs like you know this kind of this isolated space on set which actually kind of is a disruption to people around him or her doing their own jobs on set you know sometimes I mean you also have to take this into consideration that it's not only you who's making this film it's a team of 200 people coming together and making this film it could be that like man sitting in that one corner or 20 feet height in that room also because of worked with amazing actors Ranbir Alia Sanjay Mishraji and they are so good with their lines man they are so good with their lines I mean that's what I've realized that the magic that happens that when you're just so prepared with your lines on set that's amazing so I guess yeah these two that come into my mind right now what's the question things you don't think you should not do yeah should not that's why I shouldn't be ill-prepared with my lines when I come on set like that's what I meant yeah that's true you shouldn't be ill-prepared I wouldn't think you've ever come on set without really knowing your script like backwards people do it yeah but see as an actor people freaking do it I don't really mug up my lines in terms of name actors exactly we'll show up but not in other lines and do is I try to mug up the thought process of the of the character what why is it that he's saying this line and then he shifts to that line so if I know the thought I will never forget the line and even if that helps me improvise also because I know I like to know the lines enough so it helps me to think about it say something from my end also speak as the character sometimes that is not the requirement of the character not the space that that film is in like for example Razzi was not that Razzi in terms of that script you had to say exactly the words that were written on the script because anything away from that would just change the sort of that character you know the space of that scene so that's what I realized yeah so I think that now that we well I think we got through we did not too bad we got through fair amount this is what's called the end tape we're married we're married I mean like some judgment of what we've done maybe no pleasure to get to know you both and they still say goodbye that way goodbye goodbye goodbye my wife good night honey good night good night sweetheart you could tell just from the moment like they have a lot of chemistry if that is when they first actually met I don't know if that's actually true but it seemed like they didn't know each other well but they he was he was enamored just by how he's looking just like on every single word she has to say is it's really cute to see yeah also I love this format I do too for it's like actors actors with actors that sag does it's just even though somebody else is asking the question you just get to talk get to talk and talk about experiences and things you've learned things you haven't learned and it's always you hear everything you hear stuff you agree with you hear stuff you've never thought of you have stuff you disagree with it's always fun it's crazy because obviously there's so many different ways to do one job like acting absolutely how there's there's a Daniel Day Lewis way of doing it which obviously works extremely well for him it doesn't work for everybody but for the I don't I don't comprehend his yeah process at all the way he does it is extreme I mean as extreme as it can be it works but just like he's talking about like if you if somebody does that and they're not like Daniel Day Lewis you're kind of inhibiting a bunch of other people and what they need to do true yeah because that can be like an attempt he makes everybody call him by the character's name yeah he's like people I remember talking I don't remember the actor's name but he was somebody who worked with him in the in Lincoln and he was asked what was it like working with Daniel Day Lewis and he said I'm not gonna I don't know because I never saw Daniel I don't know what it's like to work with him because Daniel was never there it's so dangerous because if it doesn't work you're just an asshole exactly the only reason you can get away with it is because it works it's because it works right every single time yeah but it's also it's a process I don't I can't comprehend like uh there's there's certain things that they had mentioned about in regard to there are certain processes that only work in certain formats where you know you know if you're doing a one person show and you're playing multiple characters especially if they're having dialogue with one another you have to be able to turn on and off the emotional state of the character in the blink of an eye and be able to then reconnect with it and and be genuine in that process so and it depends on if you're doing stage if you're doing film so Ed we can listen to people talk about the craft it was great all day long we'd love to talk to them in person and be our dose yes so please come on guys together together oh that'd be great we can have a we can we can chat about you know each other yeah come here to LA and and we can go on a double who would it be it's a triple day go on a triple day triple day yeah come on down come on be our dose come on and congratulations congratulations