 Oh, it would probably be another, you know, case, right? Yeah, a different case, but it'd bring tutorial back kind of his gumshoe thing, which he was really awesome. He was great. But I would be all up in that. That first season was super cool. Which, which one are you talking about? The night of the mini series, really good. Yeah. Michael K. Williams also in it, who I love. Yeah. He's in a new show, actually, or. Wait, he's not the guy from Star Wars. I'm from the wire. Oh, he stands alone. The guy from the wire, the guy from. The main guy in it that commits the crime or supposedly commits the crime or. Riz Ahmed Ahmed. Yeah, that that guy was great in Rogue One, I thought. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's cool. He's been in other things, too. He was in Nightcrawler, the. Gilling Hall movie, where he films Rex and then sells him to a local TV. Oh, yeah, it's called that Nightcrawler. Yeah, that's what's conscious. It's all right. It's all right. No, it's all right. No, but literally, he said he was in Nightcrawler, the thing, blah, blah, blah, and you said, oh, yeah, Nightcrawler. Well, good. If it did a really bad one today. Or I gave a web address and then he immediately gave it again as if he hadn't heard it. Oh, I am not going to see it is. He just like assumed I didn't say it. I'm not going to throw stones because I've definitely done that to Sarah. And to you. Yeah, Tom's like, I literally just said that. Like Sarah says that I will not have been listening. I'll just be honest. I will be distracted by something. I'll go, but you know, the thing about Apple, blah, blah, blah, and sort of like, yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I just said. I've done it to I as I've done it to Molly. Well, it happens. I'd be more weirded out if it didn't. Hey, this is that. I really don't want to get on a plane to my row. Where you got to go? San Francisco. It's not far. Just a really early flight. Yeah, me like those. You guys ready? I'm ready. All right, let's go with Derek today. What do you guys say? I want to say hi to Derek. Derek's going to talk here in three, two. Do you enjoy hearing the tech news delivered by smart informed people? Me, too. Learn more about how you can support this show at daily tech news show dot com slash support. This is the day. Here's for Wednesday. May be a sense of time. And from to the line under it. Got. Got Scott. Oh, Scott, we'll just do this over again. Let's start this over again. Sorry, that was our practice from the beginning. Let's see if we can get Scott first. What happened to him? I just want to see if you're paying attention. Yeah, I'm going to talk to a reboot. I actually have a feline in studio feline today. Sammy, look alive. So are you talking to him? Oh, there he is. Oh, hi. What happened? I don't know. Technology, I guess. As soon as you started talking, it kicked me out. OK, well, we're just going to start this start the thing over again. All right. Sorry, that was a good practice one for Sarah and I. All right. I'm feeling better about it. Once again, folks, it's Derek three, two. Do you enjoy hearing the tech news delivered by smart informed people? Me too. Learn more about how you can support this show at daily tech news show dot com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, May 9th, 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline. I'm Sarah Lane from Salt Lake City, where I am way more virtual reality than man. I'm Scott Johnson. Oh, is it Google duplex or Scott Johnson? Who knows? But just like Google duplex did. Yeah, I like my Oculus Go if it counts for anything. I think it's pretty cool. I like what are you using it for so far? A lot of media consumption. I watched a couple of movies on it so far. And there's a couple of games that are pretty impressive on there. But for the most part, I'm just enjoying the idea that I can be untethered and anywhere with it. And I think that is the major selling point for this relatively cheap device. Yeah. All right. I can't wait to get mine. Mine's supposed to come today. So I'm very excited. Our producer, Roger Chang is here as well. Roger, how are you? I'm good. Good. Let's start with a few tech things you should know then. Apple is removing apps that share location data with third parties without explicit user consent and informing those app developers that their app violates two parts of the app store review guidelines. Apple explains that developers must remove code, frameworks or SDKs that relate to that violation before their app can be resubmitted to the app store. In other Apple news sources tell Bloomberg that Apple plans to let users buy subscriptions to some third party video services in its TV app rather than individual apps starting next year. Nick Peterson of EverDocs Tech and Nemanja Music and Mac. I knew I was going to get wrong. Mullah Mullah's magic. How's that? Pretty good of triple fault.io discovered a flaw that would mostly cause system crashes, but combined with other conditions could cause some arbitrary code execution. The flaw has been patched on the following platforms. Apple patched it for Macs, Dragonfly, BSD, FreeBSD, Microsoft, Red Hat, Seuss Linux, Ubuntu, VMware, and Zen pretty much affected everybody. The flaw is caused by a misinterpretation and documentation of how CPUs handle debug exceptions. And in summary, security researchers found a thing and now they've fixed it. Well, they didn't, but all the companies. There's some interesting things about it for security researchers. It's not something most people have to worry about as long as you keep your operating systems updated, which you should because here's one you need to worry about. Microsoft's patches on Tuesday contained fixes for two vulnerabilities that are actively being exploited. So this is something you could run a risk if you don't fix. One allows any code to be run with the same system privileges as the logged in user. So if you're logged in as admin and you're not updated, you're in real danger. That's spread through malicious RTF documents, but could also be spread through an infected website or website ads. According to Microsoft, another patch fixed a currently exploited vulnerability allowing privilege escalation in the Win32 components. So you want to go fix those now. It's patch Tuesday or it was yesterday. So patch your systems. Despite lining up with Taiwan's media tech to supply chips Monday, ZTE announced Wednesday, it's ending major operating activities as a result of the US ban on exports to the company. ZTE says it has enough cash to survive a pause while it appeals the ban, which it intends to do under the ban. US companies like Qualcomm and Dolby can't sell parts to ZTE. Not looking good for ZTE right now. All right, let's talk a little bit more about Microsoft, but good stuff. Yeah, how about some good stuff? Microsoft announced some new features for its test build of Windows. This is all likely to arrive for everybody later this year. October is the plan. One is cloud clipboard, let you cut and paste across Windows devices. That's fantastic about freaking time. It's also a dark theme coming for file explorer that matches the dark theme you can apply elsewhere in Windows. So there's a nice little aesthetic thing there. There's also support for a Unix slash Linux line endings and Macintosh line endings and notepad. An alt tab now works with sets. So this is pretty cool. So you can switch between edge browser tabs as well as other apps or tabs within those apps in theory. Windows 10 build 17666. The build of the devil is available to fast inciters now. Redstone 5 is expected to begin rolling out in the mainstream sort of way. That means for you and me and users like us around October 2018 this year. Users like us if you're not in the fast insider program, which I bet a lot of people in this audience are. But yeah, if you if you're in the insider program and you can take advantage of this, I don't know which one I'm most excited about the line endings. This one is pretty handy. The alt tab thing very cool, but I think Cloud Clipboard is my favorite. And I hope that they when they roll this out to the Redstone 5 release in October for everybody that it will be available in iOS and Android apps. So if I copy something from Word, say on my Windows machine and I go to my Android phone and open up Word there, it'd be cool to be able to paste. Yeah, and as a Mac user, primarily, I like the idea of being able to while I do this now with iOS and my in my computer, where I'm constantly swapping files. I'm doing AirDrop in a pretty major way with a lot of things that I do now like integrated into my sort of work day. These things are happening. I would love it if my Windows box would behave more like that and maybe even better behave together. Apple is so slow to do this with other platforms. So maybe I have to rely on Microsoft to be a little bit more multi-platform friendly with this sort of thing. So, yeah, big, big Tom, do you use Word on Android frequently? I do not. I I don't like using word processors on tablets or phones at all. If I if I can avoid it. Well, I don't use Google Docs. I don't use Word, but I know people who do, especially on tablets. They use Word on on on tablets. In fact, one friend of mine does all of his writing. He's a novelist and he writes on an iPad. I do a lot of I don't do a lot of creating content for Google Docs on a phone. But I will open it and look at, like, for example, on Wednesday, his first thing I do in the morning is look at this spreadsheet as soon as TMS ends and I'm like, all right, what's going on? What are the stories? Like, that's my first look at it. And then I'll later I'll be on a desktop or a notebook or something filling out whatever. But but, yeah, I mean, it's a great way to quickly reference things and do things. I'm glad it exists. It's just not, you know, that work friendly if you got to use it that way. Moving on, Walmart is buying 77 percent of Indian e-commerce company Flipkart for 16 billion dollars. Walmart said in a statement that its long term goal is to support Flipkart's transition into a publicly listed subsidiary and also that it expects India's e-commerce market to grow at four times the rate of the overall retail industry. Flipkart has 100 million users signed up to its platform. This is at least according to the company on its website. SoftBank, currently one of the largest shareholders of Flipkart, may sell its entire stake as part of the deal. Sources tell CNBC. I think this is different than folks are interpreting it. The general business press out there is saying, well, Walmart not really so well known for international operations. You know, they got a few cash and carry stores in India, but they've never really caught on. I think this is and this is just my gut. I don't have like a really well reasoned way of backing this up. My gut is Flipkart will change Walmart more than Walmart changes Flipkart and that this this is good for Walmart because Flipkart is really good at this. They are pretty much dominant in India. I think Amazon has like 26 percent of the online market, but Flipkart has the predominance of it. And Walmart, if they do this right, will learn from Flipkart and actually be able to modernize a lot of its operation elsewhere. Well, and 100 million users is great, you know, that's robust. But, you know, in a country of 1.3 billion people or thereabouts, it has a lot of room to grow. Yeah, that's true, too. It Flipkart, as big as it is, has not saturated the market. That's a very good point. So that's going to be good for Walmart as well. I don't know. I think I see this as all upside. And a lot of the press I'm seeing about it is like, well, I guess they had to do it because they wanted to keep Amazon from buying Flipkart. But we're not sure it doesn't mean they'll ruin Flipkart. Maybe they'll be right. I don't know. Yeah, I hope that it's a benefit for them. I feel bad for Walmart sometimes. And I know this is a deep discussion. I know, they hear me out. You are one person who feels... What I mean by that is there's a lot to be mad at with Walmart. But they're also kind of forged in a different time, different place with different values and different systems. And there's probably a future where people look back at Amazon with a similar smirk on their face. I don't know. I mean, it's like, I know where you're going with this. You're a little ahead of me on it, though. I look at Sears partnering with Amazon to sell its tire service through Amazon. I'm like, poor Sears. Remember, they used to be top of the world. And you're already feeling that way about Walmart, where I'm like, they're pretty top of the world still. I don't know. No, you're right. I am jumping the gun because I don't hardly go there anymore and I don't like them very much. But the way I feel like they missed the boat. Obviously, with moves like this, Walmart also realizes that it's sort of a retail business of yesteryear in many ways, and this is the way that it expands in a whole new market. Yeah. And they've been doing a lot of things with free shipping, trying to compete with Amazon online. So learning from Flipkart is going to help them with that as well. Google announced it's working on an app called Lookout that describes objects, text and people around it out loud for folks who are visually impaired. Users of Lookout would use it with a camera worn as a lanyard around your neck. The app has four modes, home, work and play. Then there's Scan and Experimental. Scan feature reads text. So if you're looking at a menu or a recipe or something, it can read it out to you. Experimental is just kind of like, try some stuff. If you're in a safe space and you're willing to try some stuff out. Lookout doesn't need an internet connection to operate. So you don't have to worry about that. It's expected to be in the Google Play Store later this year. My mom is jazzed about this. And she is because I actually told her about it when I saw in the notes earlier I texted her and I said, Hey, mom, what if your phone with the way your eyes are going? What if your phone could tell you more about what you're supposed to be looking at? And she got all excited. But when I got done talking to her after I sent that text to her, I realized, isn't this just the same as the Google app that they've been trying to tweak for years that looked at a box and said, we think that's a thing of Cheerios Google lens. Yeah, I'm wondering what how is the camera different than a camera that's in, you know, that's built into your phone that you would need for lookout? Well, you don't want to wear your phone in a lanyard around your neck. So there's one thing. The other thing is there is, yes, it's probably built on the same technology as lens where it can look at something and recognize it. But it's taking it and saying, OK, but there is a way that someone who's visually impaired needs to have information access. Right. You don't want it walking down the road going sandwich wrapper, gutter, tree, dog, like you only wanted to give you the description of things that are important for you to know about. Right. So so that I think it's it's the application of a technology that, yes, you've heard about this technology before, but we're applying it in a way that is useful for a particular purpose. Also, Google, not the first one to do this. Microsoft has demonstrated a very similar technology. And as have many others, this is not a brand new thing. There's a lot of systems like this. Some of the previous systems that have been used, though, are a little more expensive, require a little more processing. So I think the idea here isn't that they can do it so much as they can do it cheaply and with a device that you already have. You put your Samsung Galaxy S in your pocket, put this camera around your neck. Boom. Now you've got an assistive device that may have cost you thousands of dollars previously. So not long ago, Sarah, you're like this because you're like cats. I was being sort of mindless trying to feed the cat while my wife and kids were out of town. So I looked at a bag, it had a cat on the front of it. And I said, oh, that looks like food. It's got an ooper and everything. And I pulled it out and there's like these little pellets. I thought, all right, well, that looks edible, I suppose. And I put it in his bowl and he sat in there, wouldn't touch it all day. Come to find out later, if I hadn't Mr. Magood, this whole mess, I would have seen that it was cat litter in that pellet form cat litter. And I tried to feed the cat cat litter. So I'm just saying, if there was something hanging around my neck that could go, boop, you idiot, you've just put cat litter in the cat food bowl. That might be all right. Accessibility for all of us. Yes, right. Yeah. Thank goodness the cat knew that's cat litter. Also, that's like, I'm not eating that. I'm not pooping in my bowl either. I don't know what you're trying to tell me here, but it's wrong. Either way, I would love to get into his head and find out what he actually thinks. But anyway, here's my favorite announcement of the day. Valve announced steam link for Android and iOS. This will arrive May 21st, which is right around the corner, letting you stream any game from your PC to your mobile device as long as they are on the same Wi-Fi network. Steam link will support the use of steam controllers, MiFi controllers and probably other stuff. I'll bet you'll be able to sync a 360 controller pretty quickly or not 360 and Xbox one. But anyway, the Apple support or rather will hit iOS and Android, like I mentioned, and Valve says it will release a steam video app later this summer for TV shows and movies with the ability for offline viewing. So getting into that market. Oh, and they have support for the Nintendo Pro controller and the steam beta client right now. So that's a weird cross-platformy strangeness happening over at Valve. And I love it every second of it. I think it's awesome, especially the idea of streamable content to a large tablet or even a phone in other parts of your house is super exciting to me and not just tethering that to my TV. I love it. Yeah. At first, when I saw the headlines, this is why you should always read stories. I thought, wait, they're going to be able to you're going to be able to download games on iOS and Android and just play them. No, you've got to have them running on your PC. But so this is not going to be me playing steam games on on my, you know, I on my iPhone out at the train station. But it's still pretty cool, right? It's still the ability to say, oh, my PC is in another part of the house. But I can sit on a tablet and play the game on the couch. Right. Not only that, it's in it's consistent with the branding. So the link is already a piece of hardware that you buy. Specifically, that ties into your TV and either through 10 base T connection of some sort or Wi-Fi. You do this exact same thing. So those are going to get into this who already kind of know what the link does. They're not going in with any kind of blown up expectations about downloading the games to these devices and playing them natively, I think broader public may be an issue on that front. Because I still think the whole streaming games thing is very much in its infancy. But having them go to these smaller screens over a Wi-Fi network seems like to be able to cut some corners that they don't have to worry about is a big giant 75 inch 4K TV that is going to show artifacting more than one of these smaller screens or something. If there's a death of this, it's the steps like, oh, you have to have your PC on and connected to the same network. Oh, and you have to want to play it in another room. Oh, and you have to have a device, right? It starts to narrow down the people that might be willing to take advantage of it. Sure. But I for one, totally into this. The idea of me being able to continue progress in a game like, oh, gosh, there's so many, I couldn't even name them. But a million Steam games I haven't finished that I could just grab a controller and an iPad Pro and prop it up on my lap and bed and play till midnight. That sounds great. Not good for sleep and I wouldn't recommend it. But still, that's what I'm going to do. Now, as soon as I say, you won't be taking this outside the house. Of course, our audience begins to come up with workarounds. Newt Jello says, George, just use VPN, right? And E-Barch says, just bring your dust up to the train station. So, yes, obviously, there are ways to work around the limitations here, but most people are going to do them. And the success of Steam Link is going to be how easy it makes it for people. Not that, you know, not that those are cool projects to use as workarounds. But most people are going to pick up Steam Link if they think, oh, yeah, this is going to let me play games, like you say, more often. Not being outside the house, though. I think more I think about it, more I think that's kind of the limiting factor because people are like, well, why wouldn't I just go down to my rig then? Right. And I don't want to overshadow the one other part of this announcement, which was the Steam video streaming. This is kind of akin to something like Amazon Prime in my mind, even though you're not paying for it. They have some of original programming, a lot of it, gaming related documentaries about esports, that sort of stuff. But they've amassed a pretty good selection of license content, like just about anybody else has. So if you're really tied into their ecosystem and want to kind of pay attention to what's going on in their video selection, that's bigger and bigger every day. So I think this is a chance for them to get known more for more. And there's really no downside to this for them, really. Like this seems like an easy, easy play for them on both counts. So I'm excited. Keeping with the gaming theme, Belgium and the Netherlands have ruled that many loot boxes, which are essentially card packs of soccer players. I learned this today in games like FIFA Ultimate Team are classified as gambling and in violation of their laws. But FIFA publisher Electronic Arts says it plans to continue its loot box Ultimate Team mode anyway. EA also confirmed that its Ultimate Team modes in FIFA, Madden, NFL, NHL and NBA Live for the PC, consoles and mobile are its biggest live service revenue generators. To put that into perspective, that's more than what in-app purchases for something like Sims games or Battlefield rakes in, in large part by loot box sales. Scott, tell me about loot boxes, please. Oh, man, the raging fight continues over what loot boxes are out there. I don't know. There's a lot of philosophical stances on this thing. If I go to Tom, you and I, let's say we're 12. We go to a baseball card shop at the time. They maybe have comics there or something. And we buy some baseball cards. Why do we do it? Because we hope inside of those packs, there's going to be some rare, you know, Mickey Mouse, although we weren't around with Mickey Mouse. No, we're going to get the the Ryan Sandberg rookie card or Ricky Anderson. The guys and and that's the fun of it. Now, if what they're saying, if they're saying that the stuff you're doing in FIFA, Madden and so on is gambling, then so is that. It's real money for, in this case, an artificial thing, a digital thing versus real money in a real world setting for a bunch of cards and you don't know what you're going to get. If that's gambling, then so is the other thing. Well, no, it's not because I want to hear the baseball cards are just a physical object meant to be looked at, right? And like any physical object, they might be able to be sold. They're not meant to be sold. You don't win anything by having a baseball card. Whereas the games, whether it's the the soccer player cards or something else, you can succeed better at the game if you get better loot cards. So there's that aspect of it of if I can afford to buy more loot boxes, I will theoretically be more successful at the game. And then there's this. This is where it gets weird. There's the ability to resell them. Well, EA says we don't approve of people reselling the cards that they get from loot boxes, but we know it happens in violation of our terms and Belgium for one said, well, if it happens, then that's gambling because you can exchange it for real money. But that could bring you back to the baseball card. It's like, well, you can also exchange a baseball card for real money. So how is that also not gambling? Well, because the baseball card maker doesn't set the value of the card. It just makes cards for all the players. Whereas EA sets the value of its loot box cards because it decides whether a player is going to be able to make you better in the game that it's making or not. Right. You also have randomization and things that are happening behind the scenes that the people who want to know what's going on underneath don't necessarily know. Like, what are these algorithms? What are the chances of winning? I get all that, but there is a whole other aspect to this. And I should probably start with this, which is loot boxes that are purely cosmetic. I don't think those people should be lumped into this conversation anymore because and the rulings of Belgium and Netherlands discount that. They're like, if it doesn't affect the play or if it can't be exchanged for money, then it doesn't matter. Right. So if it is gambling, let's say that this goes to some high court in every land and everybody says it's gambling. And they're saying, well, we can't stop doing it because this is a huge part of our revenue. Historically, I don't know what to point to to say how that works. Like, what do you do? Is it like regular gambling that at some point, somebody said, you know, that's really kind of a problem. We should regulate that and also states off to decide if they want to allow it and blah, blah, blah. Like, are we going to have to come to that? Does that mean EA loses their shirt? Like, I'm really curious about how this pans out over time. I understand the problem with it. And I don't spend money on this sort of stuff. I just don't sometimes cosmetics because I'm trying to support the game I like or something. But I'm not in this like market for for characters or stuff. And if it's a game where I can buy my way to better play, meaning dominate with better because I've spent money and others haven't, I don't play those games. So what I hope is there's also a revolt that will continue to smolder in the gaming community itself where they stop putting up with that kind of weirdness. Now, who should call that and, you know, moderate it? I don't know. It's an example, once again, involving technology where old laws don't apply to new systems. Yeah, bootboxes are neither baseball cards nor are they gambling in the traditional sense. You need a new way to deal with them. Like, there is an issue here, right? Because like, this is where we make all our money, right? And so there needs to be a way to make sure that that's fair. Right. It's also only where they recently started making all their money. So some of this is on EA for not having other ideas. Well, but I mean, come on, if you find a way to make money, you stick with that, right? You don't go like, oh, we found this amazing way to make money, but let's come up with another one. I mean, you know, it sounds like the root of the problem is like out of EA's hands at this point, really. Yes, they're setting prices, but they're not able to, you know, determine what you and I share with each other afterwards. Well, and that's that's why I don't think gambling laws should apply here, because it's different. It's it's different than than a than a traditional poker game or something like that. Let's finish with pizza. Pizza for dessert on DTNS. JetBlue announced that between May 9th, the day that we're recording the show and May 11th, it will deliver 350 pizzas from Patsy's Pizzeria in East Harlem to select areas in Los Angeles. You're not good with geography. That means from New York City area all the way across North America to the other side to the Los Angeles area. You only get to choose between 16 inch plain cheese or $12 for $12 or a 16 inch pepperoni for $15. Those are your only choices. But that includes the flight, the delivery, the tip and the taxes. Customers contract their pizza on the JetBlue website at www.jetblue.pizza. I looked, I live in a delivery area, but they were already out of pizzas. They have a limited number per day and they start orders at midnight. I mean, assuming that the pizzas are like in the little jet blue seats like people would be coming all the way to LA, won't they be sort of cold? And why would you assume that they put them in seats? Because pizzas need seats the way everybody else. No, I don't know. I just feel like it's like are they making them in LA? Because if not, I don't want them in Harlem. Then they're putting them in a warmer that keeps them warm until they get to LA. Well, as anybody who eats enough pizza knows, that's not the same as fresh pizza. If you've ever eaten a slice in New York, you know, sometimes those slices have been sitting out longer than that flight. That's true, Sarah. You should check because here's what I do. If it's still some available in your area, I will then pay you to send it in a warmer on to me. Tell us, I love New York style pizza. I know, like Salt Lake City just shut out of this whole thing. What in the heck? That's not fair. Um, is the point, what is the point? Jet blue to get people to talk about jet blue. OK, plan worked. Yep. Damn it. We felt folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, be sure to subscribe to Daily Tech headlines on the Amazon Echo, Google Home and Anchor app or at Daily Tech headlines dot com. We get mail and we stick it in a virtual bag and then we pull some out and read it on the show. We do. We got an email from Robert. This was in in response to Google IOs, many, many announcements, but one of them about helping children learn how to be polite by saying pretty please to the Google Assistant. Robert says, saying please to my digital assistant brings up an interesting thought. What if we get used to treating our digital assistants as if they have human emotions, then say Amazon uses that to play on our emotions. For instance, Amazon's assistant, a says, we have bathroom tissue for four dollars. You want to order this? If Robert says no, thank you. Then she says, oh, OK, I was just trying to be helpful. And then you're like, I'm sorry, I'll take it. OK, final order the tissue. You've made me very happy. I don't know. I mean, it could, I suppose. We definitely don't have to, you know, guilt you into a purchase. I don't know about you guys, but I definitely project emotions onto these assistants that aren't there. In fact, my wife had a long running feud with the Amazon Echo because she thought she sounded snotty. Yeah. And sometimes, in fact, we turned off when they gave us the option to do it. We turned off the word confirmation when you say, like, turn off the TV. She used to turn off the TV and then go, OK. And it really just felt like, I guess, fine. If I had to say, sorry, we're putting you out. Yeah. Yeah. I I don't know. I feel like I've had a moment or two where I actually felt real human guilt for telling my echo to shut up, for example. Like it won't answer right or say something wrong or I'll get the wrong definition and I'll go shut up and the name. And then I'll feel kind of bad. Now, I don't think even and there's not even someone who will ever hear that other than this device and only temporarily will it hear it and she'll always help me in the future. But even that makes me feel maybe a little worse because oh, I don't want to get all westward. I'm getting away with something. Yeah, we should probably treat these things with respect. I'm not conspiratorial, but I catch myself saying thank you back, even though you don't need to. Sure. I don't know. It's a great new space, man. We got to think about these things. Well, thanks to all those who participate in our subreddit. 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We will be back tomorrow with Justin Robert Young. Talk to you then. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more at frogpants.com. Yeah. They don't have to RSVP. I know you were just using that as a transition into the email. Oh, yeah. You don't have to, but you know. But you could. You're planning on coming. Some people think. Some people have asked me like, where do I RSVP? I'm like, just show up. It's not that formal. Well, they could do meat pies from Australia to LA for 15 bucks. Oh, those would not last 16 hours. What if you cooked them right away? What if they, what if you don't cook them? And they cook them on route? Yeah. Yeah, that might work. Put them next to one of the engines. All right. Let's look at the chat. What do we got? What do we got for titles? Titles, titles, titles. Plain cheese, but plain is P-L-A-N-E. I think we all overawed that one. Roku Q1 revenue. Walmart got flipped, turned upside down. Well, how'd Roku do? They beat expectations with $136.6 million up from $100 million a year ago. Net loss down. Active accounts up 47% year-over-year, but I don't know if that's US only or not. Sounds like it's good. It did fine. All right. Good job, Roku. Pat on the back. I'm always worried that they'd get smushed by giant names, and they've held in there. Yeah, they have. I never use my Roku anymore, but it's not because it didn't work well. Apple TV just ended up getting all the stuff that Roku used to have. And the interface on the Apple TV is a little nicer, in my opinion. That's just my opinion. I know a lot of people love Fire TV, too. The only Roku I have is built into the TV we have, so it's a little slow. Yeah, Fire TV I had to stop using because it was so sluggish. I have a terrible time with that interface. Is it an older one? Yeah, it was like first gen. Yeah. I really like plain TV or plain TV, plain cheese. Plain cheese. I'm good with that. Plain cheese. I don't think I'm in the delivery area. Check. Even though they're not taking any more orders today, you can go put your zip code in and it'll tell you. No pizza for you. Is that what it says? Yeah, I just imagine that voice from what was that show. Seinfeld. No soup for you. No soup for you, yeah. By the way, the best New York style pizza I've had in forever was at the Cosmopolitan and the Hidden Pizza Place on the third floor. You're talking about in Vegas? Yeah, it was so good. I didn't know there was a Hidden Pizza. Never flying jet blue. I'm not in the delivery area. Back there. So you have to kind of know where it is. There's no advertising for it. I miss Indian pizza from San Francisco. Oh, it's great. I know. We have chicken tiki masala. It sounds so weird, but when you eat it, it's like, oh my god. Well, I mean, I usually pile a bunch of stuff on my garlic naan. I guess that's sort of pizza-like. It's, I will be honest, I was super skeptical and we only got it because we were ordering a bunch of Indian food from the same place, but it's really good. There's a couple of places over near Culver City that do Indian pizza. I don't know if they deliver that as far as you are, but... It's not even physically that far. Just everything, it's weird. It exists down here, though. I don't know if it's as good, though. The other place I miss is Matarella di Bufala and Pizza Orgasmica from San Francisco. That also... You miss San Francisco, Roger. Are you homesick? I'm kind of annoyed that all my good food options are not very close to me here. Well, there's probably other good food options that are close. Yeah, it's got to be something. Maybe. Not good enough. Not close enough is more like it. Oh, you know what? The next time you guys, you and Eileen, ever come out here, I want to go to this Filipino restaurant called Barrio Fiesta. Yeah, I've been to Barrio Fiesta. Is it good? Well, I haven't been to the one near you, but that's a chain. And we used to go to the one, I think, out in West Covina. Is that right? But yeah, it was actually one of the few where Eileen was like, all right, this is good. This is deep. Because I was looking on their menu, they had the whole line of puns. It was like, oh, it looks good. Oh, Eileen doesn't like puns it, though. I know. I made Afritada yesterday and she's like, I didn't ask her. I just made it, served it, and she's like, it's really good tonight. I'm like, oh, I did it. I got the unsolicited compliment. That's great. On Filipino food, which is like high barrier. This is a dish that her mom used to make all the time. I felt pretty good about that. Man, I'm hungry now. I was talking about food on the show. If only the food could magically appear as easily in front of my face. We also went to this Filipino restaurant called Big Boy that just opened up on Sautel. I saw that. That was pretty good. Sautel is like crazy these days. Yeah. I drove down there like one night, just like I was trying to, you know, get from north to south and it was like, it was always sort of a hub for like sushi and, you know, Korean food, but it's really hopping. Yeah. It is busted out. Is it B-O-I? Yeah. Okay. I had the Olympia Shanghai and the, I guess I just had chicken adobo. And then Eileen had bee steak. That was the special. Bee steak. How many bees does it take to make a whole steak? Do you want a thick cut or a slender cut? I want no stingers in it, please. That's all. And wings. No wings. Olympia. Oh, Olympia. That stuff looks good. So good and so filling and you can't stop eating it because they're so small. Yeah. They make, they give you a big cup full of them too because they're tiny. But, man. Barrio Fiesta. So where, where, you went to the one in Glendale or Burbank? The one in Glendale. I haven't gone to it. I was just curious. It's the one in Glendale. It's literally a quarter of a mile away from me. Gotcha. There's also a Chinese restaurant. The one we may have gone to was in San Jose possibly. Now that I'm thinking about it. Well, what's interesting is we were looking at the Chinese restaurant that was next to it. And I got closer. So how come the, how come it's in English and Korean? It's like, wait a minute. And I kind of looked at, looked at the menu for a few seconds. And then Jen says like, no, it's a Korean run Chinese restaurants. Like, ah, okay. I get it. Yeah. That's interesting though that they'd actually put the menu in Korean too. Korean. Just the mere mention of it. I had a little kimchi for lunch today. I had a little in my eggs for breakfast. I could not live in a place without, without any Asian, like decent Asian cuisine. Yeah. Tom sent me, this was super nice of him. He sent me some kimchi sauce and I thought, oh weird, let's try this on something. And the first thing I tried it on was leftovers, Marcos pizza that I put in the toaster oven and heated up. Okay. Because I just needed something. And it was great. It was super good on there. Oh, good. Yep. And then it had ramen the next day. And we put shrimp and that on there. Homemade ramen. It was amazing. Okay. I'm glad it didn't suck. I'm just going to rip through that stuff. It's so good on everything. You know, I'll let it rip through you. You know what? I'll say this next to that Korean Chinese restaurant is a really good Thai place called Thai me up. And like it was some of the best Thai food I've ever had. Like it's like, wow. Really? Okay. That's high. That's high praise. You got something decent here. You've got stuff around you. Yeah. But you know, it's kind of pricey. And what I want, like I miss El Farros or El Farlita. You miss knowing everything that you like and how to get to it. That's why I... And not spending a lot of money. I know that you'll, you just need to live there long enough that you find all those things because they're around. It's like 25 bucks. And I get away with like five like big ass tacos. How long did you live in San Francisco? Oh, I lived in San Francisco. I moved back up in 2000 and no, 1996, 7. So it was like 96 to 2016. So 20 years. You had 20 years to figure out where your favorites were and how to get there. Well, a lot of my favorites over those 20 years also closed up and new ones spring forth. Exactly. I haven't been here. Does Thai me up have other services? Yeah, delivery. Very suggestive name. It is. It's a tongue and cheek and tongue name. Wait a minute. Are you suggesting something else? Well, I mean, it's not like it's connected to a massage parlor or anything like that. I'm just saying I went to a nail shop now. I went to a nail place. Wind shear ahead. Wind shear ahead. Pull up. Pull up. Or get nailed at the nail shop. I'm just saying you never know. Why is it that people generally like to say they hate puns? But most shop names are puns. I love puns. It's because it's the debt. It's the what do they call it? Dad Joe Cafe. Like you just you can't you can't get away from it. So you go to the shop. You love to hate it, but it's also so easy to do. Like it's just someone has to press that button. You know. I see. It's a bicep. This is a person who I think anyone who's listened to me more than two shows knows loves puns. And puns love him. Do they? Do they though? I mean, do puns have feelings? No, nuns do. But puns don't. I love the nun puns. Those are very good. But I still left. Yeah. Well, I can always count on that. I don't know what's up. Puns and convent and nunnery. I'm going to try to sync my Xbox controller to this Oculus go just this morning. You were slamming Xbox and now look at you using their controller. Well, I love it. I really like the Xbox in terms of as a hardware. But man, oh man, their games are thin. That's what I'm saying. That's all it is. It's got nothing to do with anything else for me. Like I actually they actually it makes out pretty well as a media player because it has pretty much most of the services. I can stream files that I have on on the USB stick that's connected to my router works fine. It's just just no games. They have no games. They just I mean no games I want to play. Let me compare it to Sony. It's a huge number difference. Yes, it's a big number difference. That's true because Nintendo has fewer games than the Xbox. But they're games that either you would love or you're just not going to be interested in that console at all. And they announced Sea of Thieves. That was kind of like really. Well, that thing had a lot of potential, but there's issues. You know what, if Sea of Thieves took place in space where it was kind of like like a weird sailing ship, Galleon slash D&D space jammers kind of thing, that would be totally cool. But it wasn't space jam space. What was it? So D&D a while like back in the late 80s, they came out with like everyone wants to do something in space. Like something sci-fi. So we'll create a universe that uses magic and you fly through space, but space is filled with ether and your ships will look very fantastic. And you'll have all these different spells that you can use. I mean, it was something like that. That would have been totally cool. Your ships look fantastic. But you know what, Microsoft screwed up Shadowrun. And that is unforgettable. Well, folks, if you want to find out more along this conversation, you'll need to be a patron and join us in the remainder of the post show, which not going to lie is usually only a couple more minutes, but we're going to end the video and stream here. But they're really good minutes. See you tomorrow with Justin and Robert.