 You're welcome back. It's still the run-up, and we did tell you that we're going to be discussing something about the APCPDP fisticuffs, or more or less, because it's like they're fighting. Everybody's blaming the other person for what a vice happening in the country. The APC is saying PDP is responsible for what a vice happening in Nigeria now, and PDP is saying, we've left the scene for seven years. You are responsible, and we're getting tired of all this. Well, we still have Ulubenga, a judge standing by to discuss this with us. Ulubenga, this war has been on for a long time. Should we need to stop already? It's not something that we would expect to end anytime soon. I think 2023 elections is one of the most interesting elections in Nigeria's history. And I'm not expecting that after much, when the governorship elections end, that everybody will go to rest. There's going to be a lot of issues. There's going to be a lot of mitigations, especially after a candidate emerges as president in February. And this is because of many outstanding issues that is around the most popular candidate, when eventually one of them wins and becomes a president. The others have a body of vision of evidence or litigations to pull up against each other. So I'm sure they are just trying to try carefully right now. Because if I bring out my card and you bring out yours, I mean, the whole thing is going to be a mess. But I don't see all of the Broha coming to an end at the time. But is it not be clouding? Is it not putting a veil over what the serious issues should be? Because instead of using this time to tell us about what should be done and what will be done and what can be done, the major parties, the major opposition party and the ruling party are just throwing mud at each other. So is it not soiling the electoral process leading to 2023? Well, as far as I'm concerned, it is not really soiling the electoral process. You know, it is expected, you know, in the competition. We've seen for several opposition from time past, you know, I think it's even a bit fair enough, because go back to 2015, 2014 going to 2015, I'm sure you know, what was the various opposition was like there, we know what it was like. Right now, I think, to a large extent, they're still fighting fair, at least they're fighting themselves. But you know, one of the things that I think is very instructive for the Nigerian people who are the voters, is that all of the mudslinging going on is an opportunity for Nigerians to make the right choice. You know, I keep saying that we have 16% of candidates in this election. And who knows, maybe the popular candidates, they are sending this very strong message already to the Nigerian people. And it is, the oldest is on term now to make a determination and a decision to say, okay, because of what we have seen so far in this process, we will make decision in this line of support, this person of support, that person. We can almost tell, you know, that it is not really about the Nigerian people, you know, all of the fight, it is about taking power. And that is a strong message to the Nigerian voters, to the all 95 million plus Nigerians who will go voting in the elections in February and March. We've seen enough, we've heard enough, we've seen the science. In fact, I want to say that if after this election, we still make the wrong choice, trust me, we will have ourselves to play, because we saw the science clearly enough. We know, we have followed the campaigns, we know the people that are saying things, we know the people that have genuine intention. If you have no intention, I mean, you wouldn't be bothered at some time, or if your hands are so clean, you wouldn't be bothered about what other people are saying or doing against you, you would focus on your promise to the people, you would focus on your message to the people. But when somebody says this, and all you go do is try to tackle it and try to, you know, diffuse the tension or diffuse the bad message and the bad person that's going out there, it probably might mean that maybe you have a lot of courage in your pocket, that you do not want to expose or you find your opponents doing that. But if you are sure, you are confident that despite all that they are doing, you don't have a problem. I mean, the facts are there, all you need to keep doing, you know, is to keep pushing your good image out there to the public, is to keep pushing your message, and you leave the people to now go and find out to make their own research and make a decision. So for me, it makes it even easier for the Nigerian people to make a positive decision that will give Nigeria the kind of leader that it needs or that it deserves. Let's not forget that statement that the people get the kind of leader that they deserve. So we will determine that ourselves, the kind of data we deserve in 2023, having studied, having had the opportunity to look at the boundaries between the major players in this. The internet wouldn't let us continue, but the audio is really down. We're hoping that Uluwengah will join us later. But I was going to ask him a question, you know, off of the last points that he just made, how that the whole banter and back and forth makes it easier for Nigerians to make their decision and make a choice. Does it really make it easier? Because these are, they are not new. All these blame game, it's not new. Same thing happened in 2015, when Power was moving from Goodluck Jonathan to Buhari. There was a lot of blame game after it took him months to pick out his cabinet and he was, because these people did this, so we had taken our time to do this. The blames continued and it kept going on and on. And then you always have political parties bashing at each other. It is still the same thing. When you look at all the manifestos that have come out, they all contain the same news that we've heard before. So how does it make it easier for Nigerians to make a choice now? That is actually a question I would have wanted to ask. I don't know if he has come back. Uluwengah, are you still there now? Can you hear me? Yeah, okay, so just go ahead. Go ahead quickly and just answer that, please. All right, all right. So, yes, so I'm not going to just raise, but the truth of the matter is, if the people are not supposed to be confused, we already know that this is, we are not new in this game. We have seen six elections in this country. This is the seventh one in this part of the public, all right? So we have seen the theatrics. We have seen, you know, the trend. We know how they do it. So that's why I said it's easy. It should be easier, you know, for the voters to say, look, we know all the gibberish. Can we take documents and these manifestos? Can we look at how practical, how realistic it is, and not just the juicy words that politicians are saying out there, not just the juicy promises that they are reeling out to the people? It is easy, trust me, in my own view. That's one. On the other hand, I also think it's an opportunity for them to look at people who are not so popular. I don't know why we keep saying the most popular candidates. Most popular candidates always win. How about checking the profiles, the manifestos, and the programs of the other candidates who perhaps are not as popular, but have good intentions for the country? Can we use them? Can we begin to talk to them already about that? You know, that's what I think we should do. I mean, it becomes easier for the night. Trust me, whatever the result of the election spells by March and February, it is totally dependent on the people because we had the opportunity to make our choices, even from the banterings and the allegations that have been ruled out there. I believe there are methods, there are means to check out if these are facts. I mean, talking about the people now, the internet is open. I mean, everything is quite open out there. There have been several reports against some of the candidates and all that. So, we can look at this and compare our books, compare our facts, and then reach a conclusive end that will be for the benefit of Nigeria and Nigerians. We know where the shoot pinches. We are the Nigerian people. We know what, where it affects us the most. And I want to believe that at this point, we must have a point where we can say, yes, we know what we want. And if we do not know and we make the wrong choice, the illness is on us, and I'm sure we'll have ourselves to blame at the end of the day. Okay. Just a quick one in the matter of seconds, if you may. If you had the opportunity to talk sense, forgive the word, talk sense into the people who are campaigning now to stop mudslinging and talk about the issues. What issues would you have them talk about? Very quickly now, Benga, you're still there. Okay. Maybe, maybe connection, maybe it's a divine intervention. Maybe it's anything, but well, at this point, we need to really wrap up this. Okay. Very, very quickly now. I think the... Okay. Benga, we'll just say thank you to you for coming on the program. That was a Lubengar judge, a journalist and political analyst X-raying what is happening now between the APC and the PDP and all the mudslinging, the fighting that has been going on. Well, he said it's expected, but he hopes that we will take the opportunity to make informed choices so that tomorrow we won't have to blame somebody else for the wrong voting that we did, the wrong choice that we did. Today, the parties are blaming themselves, but let's not enter the blame game and start blaming another person. Let's do the right thing now. And that's how I would say my bye-bye. Stay patriotic, know that it is just about 68 days to the election and six days to Christmas. So happy Christmas in advance. I'll be saying this until Friday. So my name is Nyam Gul Aghaji. And my name is Uche Chuku Onadu. Stay watching Plus TV.