 Well Eight hours that gives us yeah, does that mean we have to go for eight hours? Well, we can discuss stranger things for about half of that. So sure. Okay. So there's four Yeah, and then we've got the show which usually like there's the show and then the pre and post show that takes around an hour There's five. We just need to fill three more hours. Then you could do the three with speculative Here say about what season two of stranger things will look like It could be like a choose-your-own-adventure. Okay, if this plot point happens then what happens? Hey I Did you did you watch a good morning call? Tom no, I told Eileen all about them and she's intrigued But we got sucked into the Olympics Ah Damn Olympics. I know That they they'll be back in just a couple of years. Well, that's a good morning call won't wait, but it will be Yeah, no, I want to watch it. It sounds like she would really like it I just I should have put it on last night because last night She didn't really want to watch anything. I probably should have just started watching it I'm like, well, I'm just gonna watch this and then I Played Hearthstone instead because I had I was behind on the carousel and Parajong, oh, I'm way behind. I'm leveling Alton. Wow. Oh It's taking up all my time. Yeah, you got to get ready Okay Speaking of ready. Are you ready? I? Was born ready. I've heard that I Didn't know that that was true or not. Mm-hmm absolutely a hundred percent accurate All right, you should buy that shirt from our store daily Com slash Here we go Daily tech news show is powered by its audience not outside organizations to find out more head to daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday August 23rd 2016. I'm Tom Mary Patrick Beja back again to give us the French spin on the tech news Wait, so do I have to to give a French take on every story? We're gonna talk about that's gonna be difficult. You could say soccer blue or Right, so so say a few words with a French accent every for every story. Yes, exactly that would be great Or or not. It's up to you No, I say French spin for those who don't realize French been calm is Patrick's website Absolutely, you can find all of his awesome other shows like pixels and Philius Club and Well, Loran the Vutek is at French spin FR. Yeah, and also it's in French But you know what don't do that just yet because we have a lot of tech news to get through before talking about Social network IDs being asked for at the border of the United States in a little bit So stick around for that Pinterest announced it's acquiring Instapaper, but good news They're gonna leave Instapaper right up and running You'll still be able to use the app a CNN reports the US FBI is investigating online attacks against reporters from the New York Times and other news Organizations so more of these attacks in the news and Tesla announced today that they'll start delivering 100 kilowatt hour batteries for the Model S and Model X that'll add 39 to 45 miles of range Cutting 0.3 seconds from the zero to 60 time and adding $9,500 to the Model S price now here are some more top stories Bloomberg reports numbers reported by sensor tower survey monkey and aptopia Show that Pokemon go has declined from its 45 million daily users in July to around 30 million Users daily in August data was presented by axiom capital management They're trying to keep investors from getting upset that no one's using other mobile apps Facebook and Twitter are gonna die because everyone's using Pokemon go. That's not going to happen It's big because Pokemon go is still very popular, but it's actually declining in popularity so I guess there is I talked about how Pokemon go was Not gonna last and I didn't think there was enough there to keep people interested and I guess yes It's declining 45 million to 30 million is definitely a steep decline, but it's still 30 million and no one could have you know With a serious face Man don't don't go back on it. I'm not I'm not going back I still think that it's gonna drop even further than this obviously, but it did hold up During the entire summer, which you know corresponds to more or less to what I thought it would But there will be an active scene for a long time now with 30 million I don't think it's gonna become insignificant anytime soon What will be more interesting is whether or not the second part of my analysis back then when it launched is gonna is gonna Turn out to be true, which I was saying I didn't think that was that meant anything for a AR and It didn't mean that AR applications were gonna become incredibly popular all of a sudden just because of this But that seems to be borne out by one of these axiom capital management slides as well They show that there's a huge spike in augmented reality searches around the time that Pokemon go launched and then it Kind of just fades right back down to where it was before As as people got used to the idea. I think I think it's leveling out a little bit above So there's there's some some increased awareness of it But but yeah, I don't think it is the savior of augmented reality if anything it just got people to have a I know somewhat inaccurate, but at least a basic understanding of oh, that's kind of what augmented reality is I I think a third of a decline on Pokemon go. It just shows how ridiculous the popularity was at the start I don't think it's gonna die. I think it's gonna continue to be used I think there's plenty of people who are still enthusiastic about it and still playing it So we will see where that level is for people who really liked this game and weren't just caught up in the Hype around it at launch We'll have to wait and see Sony announced that PlayStation now is coming to Windows machines launching in Europe soon And followed by North America Sony will sell a dual shock for controller adapter for $25 PlayStation now requires Windows 7 a 3.5 gigahertz into Intel Core i3 or better CPU at least 2 gigabytes of RAM and a 5 megabytes or faster internet connection for those who aren't aware PlayStation now is the video game streaming service from Sony Which basically streams the game to you and you can play At a distance the game on on their servers now There's going to be some confusion over this because there's also PlayStation remote Where you can use your dual shock for controller on a Mac or PC to remotely play a game from your PlayStation 4 But that's accessing the PlayStation 4 this PlayStation now is not accessing your PlayStation 4 It's just using your Windows machine to access the PlayStation now service kind of like an on-live situation if you remember back when that was around and Interestingly Microsoft purchased not too long ago video game streaming service similar to this and to on live Cold beam so it seems everyone's getting in on it It's it's very interesting that Sony it doesn't seem like PlayStation now is the most popular service in the world But it's it's working technically and everyone is sort of looking at this and and sort of positioning themselves to Continue to make those things evolves evolve as the infrastructure gets less costly and maybe down the line it might become a Viable option when you compare the prices and the convenience to actual game consoles Yeah, the you know PlayStation now has a limited selection. It's mostly ps3 games That you you also have to subscribe to it yet to pay for it You also have to pay $25 for an adapter because it seems like it's only gonna use the dual-shock controller. Oh, but you can use a Wired you can use a USB cable to fair enough Okay, you don't have to use a wireless so so you could you could ditch that $25 if you really wanted But it's a lot of a lot of things that you have to do so you have to have a dual-shock controller or buy a dual-shock controller It's for mostly I think still going to appeal to people who have a PlayStation Who just want to play some of those games when they're in the other situation of being on a Windows PC? I don't see this competing with Steam or anything like that I don't see PC gamers picking this up on a whim Because of the hurdles that you'd have to go through unless they're into those PlayStation games so much to you No, I don't think so. I mean this is a down the line as I was saying play from play from Sony I mean imagine that in a few years you can maybe play PlayStation 4 games as well when Once the the computing power of the servers or maybe some PlayStation 4 games when they can run those reliably and at Okay cost on their on their server farms and it's available not just on PCs and Consoles but also on the Apple TV and on your TV itself Yeah, you know it might become at that point Something but they're walking before they're running It's interesting to watch because you're right. They're they're crawling there, you know before they're walking PlayStation view we talked about this on court killers this week is Doing a thing where people are subscribing to it and using it whether it was where they never have had any intention of buying a Sony PlayStation in fact one of our e-mailers was saying why are they calling it PlayStation view? That's confusing to people because they think they have to have a PlayStation So that PlayStation view television service Sort of seems to point the way here of Sony Kind of taking an approach like Microsoft is with office That we should be providing services and platforms and it shouldn't matter what device they use Yeah, our flagship will be our own device, but let's get that money from people no matter where they are and The other thing is at some point the thing in order for this to work You need to have a great relationships with the publishers because they're not gonna want to have That's why on live failed ultimately because they couldn't get a subscription service Which is the only way to make this interesting just as it is interesting for Netflix because you get in unlimited access to the entire library That's how it becomes interesting to be paying a monthly subscription So Sony is probably gonna be the one that can make it work. Maybe Microsoft can do that as well But someone can make this work. So they they're probably thinking it might as well be us Sources are telling Bloomberg that Google is lining up a bunch of money to give to VR films VR programs in advance of the launch of its daydream VR service in the coming weeks Projects include 360 degree video with YouTube stars like iJustine and the Dolan twins Some partnerships with places like Hulu and HBO Video game producers obviously sports leagues. They mentioned major league baseball and the NBA Some projects like the Hulu one for instance will not be exclusive But they'll be timed to debut with daydream if you remember daydream Is the VR part of android that is supported in android nougat android nougat just started rolling out monday So it would make sense that we would see daydream within the next few weeks and google is providing funds But not getting ownership. They are just essentially saying we want to pay for people to make great stuff on this platform So that people will use the platform It's definitely interesting. I think a good 90 percent of all of these videos produced in the first Let's say six months are going to be incredibly awkward But someone has to go in and and try things out to to figure out what works and what doesn't so Well, and if you're going to try to convince people to try out VR One of the things you want to do is make it cheap and that's what daydream VR is supposed to be Google will have reference designs, of course and probably have their own product But they're really pushing other people making things on the platform google's providing a controller to make it easier Then say a gear vr where you have to actually, you know, touch touch your face To do it. Although gear vr. It has some controllers rolling out as well But the key is saying there's something to do there And I think that's what google is looking at is we just want to make sure that people Understand oh, you're going to be able to see cool movies You're going to be able to play games and you're going to be able to watch tv shows There's a reason why you might want to try this and then if it's compelling They may be more willing to hand over a couple hundred dollars rather than 800 to a thousand dollars that they would need for an htc Vive or noculus rift Yeah, that's possible. It only works on android though. That's Everyone who already has the dominant operating system in the world though Yeah, no, of course, but you need as you you were saying there are people who already have VR headsets And not every phone is in a vr situation. I guess you can use it with a google cardboard But that's not optimal. I mean Yeah, of course, it's it's a very important move But it's not like everyone who already has an oculus or a vive Can use that service. It's going to be for other people Yeah, I think it's for people who can't afford an oculus or a vive But we're looking for something a little better Than cardboard and maybe don't want to buy a samsung product Some of these daydream vr products will be standalone. You just buy it and and it will have all the electronics built into it We'll see we'll see what people come out. Of course. Of course. I guess what I was Getting at is people who already have them who might be interested in those potentially cool or interesting videos Are not going to be able to get them. Yeah without getting daydream vr Which is google's whole point. I guess you want to make everyone move to daydream vr because these are so good. We'll see Peter Kafka of record Reports that his sources say amazon is working on a two tier subscription music service Music streaming service the first year has been previously reported and would be a typical unlimited music streaming service for 10 bucks a month The second tier however would be a four to five dollars a month But only playable on amazon echo devices sources say that amazon wants to launch both services in september But has yet to finalize deals with the major music labels. This is really curious because The idea of tying a service to a device seems really bad But at the same time One of the things I do right now on the echo is i'll say hey play a song and all it can do Is look into the amazon prime music service that comes with amazon prime and pull that out Or if I have stored some music in the amazon music locker it can pull that out So being able to say hey, I know you're on spotify But wouldn't you want to have quicker access to this other stuff for five dollars a month? Maybe I don't know. I don't know. I want to lock myself into a subscription for that It's you know spotify did have some Less expensive subscriptions. I think at some point that were Limited in the amount you could play or I can't remember exactly what it was but I guess if you the thing is It's not got to be Just the four to five bucks because if you like music and you want to subscribe a streaming service You're probably going to have one with spotify or even the unlimited one I guess what I'm trying to say is it would be weird to just have a streaming service for your echo and then not Have one on your phone, right? Right? So If you want to have one on your phone Then it's also going to work on the echo. You might as well get the amazon 10 bucks one But yeah, I guess you know it let's take it the other the other way around It doesn't really cost Quote unquote much for amazon to try this out Sure So they try it out if it works out. Some people might be interested in just this They'll have the option if it doesn't work out. They'll fold it in a few months Yeah, maybe they're finding out that there's a lot of amazon echo users who don't want to use apps anywhere else They only use things on the echo For some reason. I don't I don't know. It's it's it's an interesting play as we say You may see a lot of folks celebrating something called internat day spelled i-n-t-e-r-n-a-u-t like astronaut The idea is that is the it's the anniversary today of the day in 1991 when new users first could access the worldwide web This according to wikipedia. However, the citation on wikipedia points to books by someone named andris Sopronio a retired psychotherapist and technology executive who has written a several more than a hundred books And a lot of people doubt that there's any other Evidence that this was the day When asked whether today was the right day to celebrate the web's invention the web foundation sort of demurred and said We think the web should be celebrated every day Which is kind of like we don't want to rain on your parade But also we're not pretty much sure it's not the day Tim Berners-Lee on the other hand took to twitter today and wrote Who on earth made up 20th august 23rd? Hashtag get it right What's the right? Okay, just give us a day then Tim well don't be snarky just just be productive be part of the solution not the problem Well, we did we had a day back in 1990 When tim Berners-Lee first published a for his formal proposal for the web november 12th 1990 first web page went live december 20th 1990 First web browser successfully surfed the web accessing the page december 25th 1990 You could even go back to march 12th 89 when Berners-Lee first wrote his paper proposing the mesh Which would later be renamed the web August 6th 1991 is the closest to the 23rd That's the day tim Berners-Lee posted a summary of the worldwide web to alt dot hypertext The theory on the 23rd date is that he posted that summary Making the web accessible and the 23rd was the day everybody showed up and could actually access the web But there's no evidence that that's actually true. So the 6th would be a closer day There's also november 3rd 92 when Berners-Lee posted a page describing the web Which is the oldest page that is still served on the internet and april 3rd or april 30th 1993 is when the web protocols were made public domain ensuring that nobody could Copy write it and stop other people from using I think the day we should choose should be the first day that A web page was was successfully Remotely accessed so that would be december 25th 1990 wouldn't it? Yeah Although there's another holiday that some people celebrate then Which might overshadow it in certain parts of the world Possibly maybe maybe that's why that's it's it's uh christmas for everyone It's webmas Okay, I actually like december 20th because that's the first page that went live Even though they hadn't put the browser together Yeah, but you could still you could access it you couldn't access it with a browser yet It was a browser. Yeah, but um if a page is live, but no one accesses it You can access it without a browser though. That was I'm not sure how they did that Okay, uh, when I I think we should choose the date when did you first access an internet page? It would have been The the first web page that I accessed would have been 94. I don't remember the Oh Really? Yeah, I accessed the web before you probably. Yeah, I was late to the web I didn't I didn't I was a I was a news group man gopher and news groups were good enough for me. Thank you very much I'll go look at your worldwide. It's just a bunch of hypertext. Who cares I can do that on on on uh, what was the microsoft Encyclopedia on a cd rom anyway. Yeah, I was very thankful of the web in the early Yeah, the first time I went I remember the first site though. I went to imdb I want to say like november 94 ish Uh and looked up something on imdb at the behest of a friend of mine I I first surfed the web, uh in 92 at some point. I was at uh university And it was actually on mosaic going to the cern website, which was basically there weren't many pages back then And I couldn't believe that that was actually happening that it was displaying Images before my eyes that were hosted somewhere else in that hypertext manner. Um, I was so used to actually having to browse folders with images and uh, you know downloading them one by one It was magic and I was looking at microsoft and karta saying well, this is just much better It's faster. It's local All you never want things on the internet. It just takes too long Yeah, I also hate it. Remember. I also thought cameras would never last inside of smartphones. So, you know Remember when people thought that you could actually index the web by hand and get people to select Ah fun days. Good days. Good times. All right last last topic Researchers at the university of bristol and university college london Created a robot called burt to help participants make an omelet burt could look happy sad or neutral In one test it would look happy and pass ingredients without a mistake in another test It made mistakes tried to fix them but never changed expression in a third test It made mistakes apologized showed a sad face and tried to fix the mistakes 15 of the 21 participants picked the third robot as their favorite Participants also said they felt rushed by the first one How many of us have had workplace experiences like this Where the guy that's always making mistakes and dropping stuff seems to be everybody's favorite because they feel sorry for him But the person who's perfect at their job is just hated by everybody. He's like, oh, he just makes the rest of us look bad Now you know why I always make mistakes and make a sad face afterwards And now I know why everyone hates scott johnson. No, I don't know. Um, yeah, nobody's you know, yeah, this is really interesting, isn't it? Yeah, I yeah, it's basically because obviously when it's a person that's making mistakes You feel empathy, but clearly for the robot Obviously they also feel empathy But it's the machine right it's tricking you into thinking like it's You know that it's it doesn't have you shouldn't be You shouldn't feel empathy although It's interesting the last thing you noted in notes. They felt rushed by the first one So maybe it's not so much about empathy. It's really about how that robot makes you feel when you're interacting Absolutely. In fact, they asked a few people would which which robot they asked a few people Would you would you hire the robot if he asked and a lot of people lied To the third robot they're like I wouldn't hire him because he made all those mistakes, but I didn't want to let him down You know, there's definitely this emotional reaction inside yourself and that is actually the point of the study is Robots are going to make mistakes as they move farther into our world How do we deal with that so that people don't get angry at the robots and apparently It's make them have sad faces and apologize You know, um, I recently watched the bastion short movie that blizzard entertainment put out a former employer of mine To and bastion is a robot in one of their games and it has so much expression with just head movement And a light that turns blue or red and the way it blinks It's I thought that Um, uh, ah the pixar robot Wally Yeah, Wally was was you know the epitome of robotic expression and it certainly is but What is possible to do with just movements is incredible. So I think the the those Researchers should look at Wally and the bastion short and try and express that kind of emotion with just the simplest possible Machines and it would be interesting to see if it works as well robots of the future will be canadian wallies That's how they will survive Because they will be so nice because they'll be sorry And they'll be really nice Thanks to all those who participate or subreddit. You can submit stories and vote out of a daily tech news show dot reddit.com We've got icing in there strike at rich one another j martin talk tick Little spin on tick tock there mo tang is in there trillian lover is in there You can be in there too go and check it out daily tech news show dot reddit.com and that is a look at our top stories All right back in june Uh, I think we mentioned this on the show the department of homeland security in the united states published a proposal to ask Foreigners, uh, so people coming into the united states Either on a visa that they pre-applied for or on one of the visa waiver programs that the u.s Has with various countries they published a proposal to ask those people to voluntarily state quote information associated with your online presence In fact the question would read please enter information associated with your online presence provider platform social media identifier This has caused a lot of people to go up in arms now comments have been taken on the proposal for the past 60 days They posted it on june 23rd. So monday was the last day for comments And the internet association got in under the wire internet association represents a lot of tech companies google facebook twitter They said this could have a chilling effect on the use of social media networks online sharing and ultimately free speech online They were not alone the center for democracy and technology filed comments calling it unnecessarily invasive aclu the eff and the new america foundation said the program would invade individual privacy and imperil freedom of Expression lead to a lead to a leading to a significant expansion of intelligence activity And access now submitted a petition with 2300 signatures Arguing that the pressure not to leave the optional field blank What would be would make people feel like it was in fact mandatory even though it's called optional They said they feel like they'll risk additional questioning if they don't fill it out So people will want to fill it out All right, so a lot of a lot of organizations against this patrick as someone who travels to the united states under our visa waiver program from the eu How do you feel about this if you were presented with this form and it says hey Could you just please enter information associated with your online presence provider platform social media identifier? You know I'm really of two minds on this my initial reaction is that it makes me really uncomfortable um It's It feels like definitely if I didn't I mean I don't know if if how you guys are not you guys But how americans feel when they go to the eu but going through customs in uh the us is Intimidating and you know, it should be it shouldn't be it should be something that you take seriously and that you do Properly but Being asked for uh this information which feels very personal For some reason makes me very uncomfortable it for all the reasons that are you know, uh described by all of these, uh, uh organizations Trying to go against the proposition on the other hand when I think about it a little bit more, um It it seems like This is there they will only have access to the public side of all of this right? Yeah, they're not asking for passwords or anything like that. No just just a handle So they also ask for your home address Uh when you enter in you enter the country, um This is very personal it feels it could feel invasive if it wasn't so if we weren't so used to it The things you post publicly via twitter for example Are again as the name implies public So they're really just asking for that information so that they can check you're not Yelling death to america on your twitter account every other post Which on the face of it? I think feels reasonable, but there's still a nagging feeling that It's a little bit too much. Uh, I could expand but I don't know how how do you feel tom? How would you because if that happens then people I mean other countries would probably ask American citizens to to do the same. Yeah, uh, I don't know. I'd probably write tom merit Because that's my twitter account that only auto posts things from my blog So you would dodge it. I think you know that yeah, I mean And I think a lot of people would dodge it or or people won't think too much about it That they or they might put none Just like I don't know because a lot of people don't have social media Presences it's not going to be that uncommon for someone to just either say no, I don't I don't have one not applicable etc so What I really think about this is hey, yeah, sure. It's optional Okay, a lot of people are going to think that if they don't fill it out It's going to be a red flag and they're going to get pulled aside for further questioning And maybe they're right especially if they are a seek right and they wear a turban or something They may be right to feel that way. There may be profiling going on Well, so just just a second it's it's not it's not not going to be a red flag It can't if you don't put anything it might be a tiny red flag But it's definitely going to be if someone puts it up Then he's going to seem more trustworthy than someone who doesn't absolutely But in the end What I want to know is does this actually do anything to catch bad guys? And the answer is probably not What this does I mean if if I really am posting jihadist messages to my twitter account Am I going to put it down that twitter account on my On my form? No I'm not I'm going to put some other account or I'm going to put none Or something else like I don't see How this does anything to actually make me safer So Maybe it's not that big a deal, but also why bother adding it then Other than let's collect as much data on everyone as possible I think it came out of the sand Bernardino attack right where the the perpetrators Where the perpetrator has not been shown to have said anything on any social media in advance of that attack Okay, then I thought a lot of people claiming they did but the FBI says no We find no evidence that anyone said anything in advance of that attack So this is just pure fear mongering Right. Yeah, and it definitely feels that way And I'm curious though you mentioned that you you wouldn't it wouldn't bother you and you wouldn't feel it seemed at least that what you said was You wouldn't feel any pressure To put the right twitter account and if you if you didn't you wouldn't be you didn't think it would be a big deal Is that accurate? I think leaving it blank Especially if you are in you know, if you if you are a muslim Or if you are dark-skinned If you're if you're the kind of person that is at risk of some kind of racial profiling Then leaving it blank probably is something that you are going to feel comfortable doing So but in that case I'd either put some other account because chances are they're not going to check Or I would just put none and say, yeah, I don't I don't do any social media But what if okay, what if you do though? What if you do have a twitter account and you post regular things, but you do feel You know like it it feels uncomfortable giving that social media account because I can tell you that I'm not, you know Dark-skinned even though I was born in in lebanon Going into the u.s. Again, it it is a Moment of a little bit of uncomfortableness. It is a little bit of pressure. Maybe it's not the same for for you guys when you go to europe No, it's it's it's intimidating. It depends on the border guard. Uh, I've I've been Intimidated by a border guard going into canada Uh on the highway in van to vancouver and I've had like the friendliest canadian border person ever at the airport in vancouver I had a really gruff guy in italy But he seemed to just want to get us through as quick as possible And I had a really intimidating guy in the uk once who'd like was grilling me like bookseller What does that mean because it's back when I worked at a bookstore. So It all depends on who you get Right, but you don't feel that that process in and of itself is Something that makes you uncomfortable for me. It makes me uncomfortable. It always makes me uncomfortable Yeah, if that's if that's all you're getting at Yeah, I could say that it all it always makes me nervous because it's it's an authority thing And and so in that context, I think asking for I mean We've talked about this a lot and and given the the foreign against I think ultimately my Uh, uh judgment of the whole thing is that I wouldn't want to to have that feel because it would feel weird if I did put something in and it would feel weird If I didn't I wouldn't want to give out that information It feels somewhat personal for some reason And if I didn't I would feel guilty and like I'm doing something bad when It shouldn't be so you wouldn't want to put none because that's not true Yeah, exactly exactly like the one time for my regular life The one time I want to be as truthful as possible is when I get through customs in a country out of respect for that country and for the procedure Um, and you know also out of fear that it could come back and invite me But you don't want to lie. You definitely don't want to lie. That's something I want to be truthful. So Yeah, it would it wouldn't make me I and and here's the thing I I get the arguments that are saying yeah, but come on It's it's always nerve-wracking and it's really not that big a deal I get that those might have validity on the other hand But it does if you've got if you've got no reason for this if this is not actually achieving anything Then why are we doing it? Yeah, and and I'm I'm very Unclear that this will in any way contribute to the safety of the country the same way that you know A lot of the the tsa procedures Have not been shown to have any effect Uh on on safety some some do but a lot of them don't uh and and people call it security theater And I think that's what this is. I think this is security theater plain and simple Hmm It's not very good theater either Yeah, you don't you don't stand up and and clap at the end All right, let's get to our pick of the day on yesterday's show Russell writes you and Veronica were talking about the technology of self assembly and discussing some of the tangential effects that this could have on jobs The book rise of the robots by martin ford takes a very detailed look at some of the potential effects that automation of this type can have on the economy This conversation was solidly in the sweet spot of what it addresses So thought it might be okay to revisit it around this topic possible long-term structural effects on employment outlined are a bit scary But it is always better to know than not to know The book is very well written and researched and is worth a read or listen on audible And we've got a link to it in the show notes So you can just look it up yourself rise of the robots technology and the threat of a jobless future by martin ford Send your picks to us folks feedback at daily tech news show dot com You can find more picks at daily tech news show dot com slash picks And our message of the day comes from nick in louisiana I don't know if everybody is aware, but there's been some pretty serious flooding going on in south louisiana He wrote us an email last week, but he never sent it because he got distracted by all of the flooding and he said I don't know I feel self-serving i'm not directly involved in the flooding but some friends of mine were evacuated by this group And I thought the community would appreciate how a couple apps and a bit of self-sacrifice could impact a town in need Over the past 72 to 96 hours I'd like to bring your attention to the numerous civilian volunteers taking their own vehicles and boats out There's some facebook videos of volunteers. There's facebook group called the cajun navy Which is organizing a lot of this He's got some links to local media coverage we'll throw in the show notes as well and some national coverage He says the technology aspect of their efforts lies in the use of two apps mainly Zello and glimpse the volunteers are cooperating with the ascension parish sheriff's office and the emergency operation center With many k through seven or k through 12 schools having their first class days this week parents and teachers are keeping in touch Via the remind app things are slowly getting back to normal and the recovery and rebuilding efforts are making good progress It's heartwarming to see a community come together like this So I love this idea of somebody using glimpse which you can use to send a link that lets someone track your progress When they're going out on a boat like okay. I'm a part of the cajun navy I'm going to go out on this boat on patrol see if I can help some folks But here is a link to keep track of me in case I get stuck or in trouble. You know where I'm at So it's a geolocation app. I'm not familiar with yeah glimpse is a great app I use it a lot when I'm like head to somebody's house And and it's time sensitive So they can know like oh, okay, let me how far away is he? Oh, he's he's about 10 minutes out That just updates a map and shows people where you are Oh, so it's like, uh, I know you can share your location on on ios with friends Glimpse to just work for anybody. It just sends a link to my text message Yeah, it's been around for a while too and then zello is like a walkie-talkie For live conversations that you can use on your phone Very nice. Yeah push to talk on your android app Uh, so good stuff. Thank you nick for writing in with all that. Uh, that that's a really good update I like I like getting on the ground reports like that And thank you patrick vasia for joining us as always. Uh, what's going on in the french spin world? Uh, I guess the latest thing is the latest episode of pixels Where we covered the entirety of the important things that happened at gamescom Which is the biggest video game show in the world. 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Bob Sure that works I just downloaded glimpse It's pretty cool I mean you can do with on the ios now you can do that thing where you send a location update as well Yeah, yeah, that's what I was. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right The glimpse has been around for like five years Can you hear me? Yes. Yeah good I've decided not to turn off the mic, but just to turn it off the mic on the headset Does anything instead? You know, I could be everything or nothing. It's just Piece of garbage But it lets the show chug along. All right, so titles. Yes, we have insta papers, please Papers, please even play that game. Please. Yeah. Yeah papers, please. Yeah pretty cool Let's see I like the second one pokemon go away Canadian wall ease. Hmm. What was that one turn that was the perfect Robot personality That's it. Hmm that when we were talking about the robot Were you listening to the show? Yes. Yes. No, we were talking about the robot emotions Yes, and I and he was saying walley and and bastion We're going. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, and I said I said so what you want is a canadian walley Oh, I didn't hear that part. They say soory It's probably why soory. You know what? Maybe I'm so used to listening to you tom. I kind of I just listened to patrick It was a it was a lot of people be honest Uh, the french spin you shall not pass without filing the i-94 form Robots need to say sore e So security theater ID, please. Yes, your social ID That doesn't really make sense in the topic, but it is pretty funny. So security theater. Yeah, I mean it to make sense In each word, but then it brings up social security, which was not Don't hurt. Don't hurt the guy's feelings. He's robot, too Our google gets new vr content robo mechanic kit Man robo mc i can't A robo robo mc mc. I can take it robo mc sure That's a tongue. That's a tongue twister. That is a tongue twister. There's no easy way to pronounce that Where is the robo mc? I can yeah, I can't I can't take it. See it's try it. It's just a robo mc. I can't Happy internaut day Ha ha ha ha ha. I like instant papers, please though personally Yeah, it's pretty good I like it as well. Well, if you guys like it, it's good enough for me Hey, I've never had an intimidating experience going through customs because I like it by authority I'm not. It's like, what's the worst? You're gonna send me back home. All right Send me back. No, that's that is not. I am intimidated. That is definitely not the worst I should have said this in the in the show. I am intimidated by u.s. Immigration's on my way back Which you would think would be the easier One I have I've never you know why because I've never been intimidated because every time I've gotten hassled by customs it's been Very young female about five four who talks in a very gruff voice But it's like all right you want to go through my bank and she asked me a bunch of questions All right, like but when I get like a big older guy, he's always really nice to me. It's like the weirdest thing It's like the smaller Younger person is is very aggressive and the big older guys like I think what we're learning here Patrick is that roger is more intimidating than customs people? Probably The only trouble I had was leaving Australia that was kind of weird because they hit the little alarm on the desk and they all lit up like What did you do? Oh, it's because my I forgot that my uh Passport doesn't have my full name on it. And so my ticket only had the first and last name It's like hold on. Hold on. I have a driver's license that includes every bit of my name say listen If I'm a danger to your country, I'm already on my way out. Why would it be an issue? I'm not overstaying I think it's also their job to make sure you don't mess up the other country that you're going to Like I think if they let the terrorist out through customs and don't realize he's a terrorist Then they're you know, they're not doing their job Or or if someone had done something And they didn't know about it yet and they let him out of the country and then you know, like the time bomb went off Wait, and we let the guy get away Yeah I would like to think they actually used that tone We got away in australia. They would say we let the guy get away Okay, why that's not australian way is I mean if you want to do it very like queens and lee, I guess it would be why We let the guy get away Like way would be pronounced why like which why did he go? In california it would be like, whoa, we let the guy get away Oh um, I actually had a uh customs officer once Asked me lots of surprising questions when I was working for blizzard and he was asking me. Oh, so you don't do You're not a journalist. I was like journalist. What no because if you're a journalist and you go to the country you have to A specific type of visa you have to get for which and I didn't understand in the us Oh And I didn't understand why he was asking for all of this And then after maybe 10 minutes. He said I I said, oh, well, I guess I do podcasting from time to time So maybe and he was like he finished the interview And then he said, uh, okay. Yeah, I must have heard you on twitter. Oh really? My god That's hilarious. Yeah, that was that was really funny. I was Smiling in the most awkward way you have Can I leave now? Well, he was super professional about it, you know, he just mentioned it at the end like Saying, oh, well, you know, that's probably that's why he was grilling me. You know, I sent my name Sounded familiar. Yeah, and he's like, I know there's a journalist named Patrick Beja in his mind, right? Because yeah, yeah Yeah, so oh, that's fine I have No, I've that'd be kind of cool. All I ever get is uh, oh, you got a new ipod. How is it? the two They literally asked me they literally asked me like how the like do you like it? It's like, uh, yeah, that's all right. I mean I don't I almost never have these kinds of conversations Most of the time it's very quick Like, you know, what what were you there for holiday? our vacation And when we're to get there souvenirs, all right You come back to the us. You mean Either. Uh, yeah when we come back to the us. I well on the way in it's what are you to hear for vacation? Okay Come on in. I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if you know Being a white guy, uh has something to do with that. Well, I'm usually traveling with a brown lady though. So Yeah, but that's not that they know When you get in they don't know Well, we're together we go through I It's I think it's a little different like if I come in as a single asian guy. I I always There's only one time. I've never been checked coming in I but I've been I've been I've been checked each and I think part of it is like Like oh, he's coming from he's coming from the asia pacific region He might be smuggling something it is very large because I always use the duffel bag for the longest time Instead of an actual suitcase, but it's like a single guy. He fits the profile of a guy who smuggles stuff So I'm gonna go through this thing. There's only been once I've never been checked All of the time when I was going to canada on july 4th I was I was staying in seattle with a friend and I drove up to To vancouver for the day I got grilled by the canadian border guard who's like Leaving the country on 4th of july. It's not very patriotic That I was just like well, I'm gonna be back in time for the fireworks. I'm just going you know for the day Oh, yeah, oh, why why do you just want to go for like she kept like I don't know. I just wanted to see vancouver. I've never seen it before Did you say like my other wife and child live there? To say hello That's the one thing you should never do though is ever jokes. Yeah. No, absolutely. Yeah, no I have a a friend who was actually going into israel and he was uh You know, he had a young attractive customs officer And uh, they started talking and it was kind of fun, you know a little bit playful And and then she was asking, you know, so do you have uh, do you have weapons? With you like standard questions and he said my smile and and no Much worse. He said, yeah, of course. I have an ak 47 in my suitcase. Ha ha ha ha And that was the dumbest obviously, you know That's like he realized midway through that It wasn't it wasn't the kind of thing you were you should say to the customs officer Even if it was playful and even a little bit flirty, so no Yeah, probably not. I think that he spent a lot of time in that in that Customs thing. I bet he did Only thing ever copped to was a swiss army knife But it's like one of those top tiny ones that fit on your keychain with the little swiss scissors and tweezers I guess I might be able to take over I I Almost always just I don't bring back much So customs is always the place where I I'm always worried like Did I did I count for everything? Is there anything gonna be anything weird in here? Like I always bring back exotic spices animal hides Of course you do what is this? Well, it was an endangered species. It's a it's a 9999 dollar travelers check Just under the limit sir What is this? What is this round circular thing? Well, it's it's a it's a uh, it's a bar stool But it's actually an elephant's leg turned into a bar stool. Yeah, don't joke They actually make those that's true It's an actual thing You can bargain because they're gonna ask me for my youtube account now and then they're gonna see this video You know what you should tell them Please have the entire department as well as the entire division watch it because I need to get my views I need the views. Please subscribe Everyone just subscribe Uh, it's the worst No, I have global entry now too Um, so coming back in the u.s. Should be easy I'm pretty sure that sounds like a euphemism for something. Yeah It's kind of unfortunately named It's it's basically you you get your you go through an interview And they they stamp you as they do a background check and they stamp you as pre approved like he's at low risk Oh, but isn't that just for tsa or is that no, that's t that it's for global entries for customs. Okay So wait, what's the tsa one where you can customs integrate immigration? Um tsa pre is what oh, okay And if you are global entry you get tsa pre automatically got it Which doesn't that defeat the purpose of You know making sure you're not a terrorist No, because they're making sure you're not a terrorist for global entry And so the tsa is like well, it's the same process we would do for tsa pre So if he if he's approved for global entry, then we'll approve him for tsa pre right no, sorry I meant global entry as a whole What about it Well, he's just saying if you only have to check once at some point can't tom merit be radicalized Oh, yeah at a fort destination Well, not even I don't know isn't the whole point of making sure you're Everyone's okay to check when they actually have them in front of you. I mean, I don't know. It seems like it would lesser Well, it's actually a more sensible way of doing security Which is we we aren't going to be able to tell people right in front of us What really will predict whether someone is going to do something bad is all of these other factors And so what we do is we look at people and we consider lots of other factors that we couldn't consider in a single meeting And say, okay, they're well under the risk threshold So we'll let them pass more easily and that takes the pressure often allows us to be more observant for higher risk passengers It's it's the way isreal does it I think No, but they they still do a pretty heavy questioning even if you are you don't Like going through or is that the airline? It might just be the airline that does that But yeah, you have a there there has been there have been studies that have shown that you have a better success rate of preventing Bad actors when you when you look at large factors versus individual screenings like if tom was recently divorced Dispossessed broke and angry at everything they would probably Well, no if I got arrested for anything then I would lose my global entry. I'd have to go back through the process forever No, I think I could get it back. I just have to show that, you know, basically they're saying like, well, that's That now brings you back up towards the risk factor. So Now we need to reassess. So let's get tom arrested That would be super fun We'll be audience mostly a gig Because we can live stream it it could be on youtube The fact that I'm going to be going through these things in like a few days makes me very uncomfortable right now We have global they have global entry on you or something Yeah, but I always go through the regular line anyway with Eileen because she doesn't have global entry Oh, she doesn't No, I keep telling her there's a story there. Maybe we shouldn't talk about it very very short and boring story of She hasn't set the appointment. I think she's got an appointment in october to finally go do it Okay, right after your trip. Yeah, I know Well, there's the next one I still think they need to come with the uh teleportation belts I hate how like there is also Virtually no evidence that the liquids restriction does anything But every airport on the planet is doing it now because the us put the pressure on it Because I checked because we're flying from japan to korea and I was like, okay Well, we're not going to the u.s. Do they still put these restrictions in place and it's like, yeah, they do Yeah, it's everywhere for sure Possibly because it's easier to have and follow one standard than to kind of remember What all the different korea is a place where they have some like some restrictions on media and things you can Restrictions on the internet you try to visit a blocked website You'll get a little you'll get a little pace as you're trying to access like customs wise You you can't bring things in Even in south korea that are considered harmful to the government Yes Hey Yeah, so I mean it's not the kind of thing you would normally be traveling with anyway, but you know if you if you brought in The sayings of kim jong-un. I think they would Confiscate maybe that's why Taiwan used to be like that But I don't think so anymore used to be really strict um korea even had a uh Registration thing for every Web service and site you had one idea that could be all right. Yeah. Yeah I think they got rid of it a couple of years ago, but it was for five years. They had it or something like that Well folks, uh, we are published there is a show up and you can enjoy it So if you're watching the video you already did but if not you can go listen Maybe they just chilled up Yeah, maybe go start over again and we'll see you there at the beginning of this show