 We talked a lot about how India and Australia could work better, encouraging creative subjects, particularly in university. He definitely has a creative element to himself, so I think he can really see similarities between First Nations Arts and possibly Gond Arts, so Indigenous Arts of India. And I think there's a lot of cultural crossovers in the arts, as well as just culturally, I suppose, First Nations culture, yeah, there's a lot of similarities between our two countries, which is beautiful.