 Well, okay. Yeah No, no, there and there are a lot of things you can do Yeah, because exactly you have the formatting and many times they'll have a photocopy of a PDF and so the formatting can be a disaster Especially because then you have to create your own table or you have to use their table and all the formatting goes out of whack The best thing you can do usually is before so you give a quote and then you say You know I can confirm this once you send me the file to be translated because once they send you the actual file To be translated then you can get a better idea usually. So if this is your first time then You know, yeah, unfortunately actually it's probably good that it happened now because now you've already learned, you know After your first translation, you're never gonna make this mistake again, if you will You know, your your your intended will always be ready for something like this So what I would do is yeah, you give your quote and then and then if they send it to you And you realize there's a lot of formatting to be done Then you know, you can you can always say it would be like look this takes a lot of formatting many times What they'll say is just they'll say either. Oh just translate the text. We'll handle the formatting or You know, I mean if you're doing a pro bono, then this doesn't really count But they might give you a couple more days or something like that because you know, it's so much to deal with But yeah, because that can definitely be an issue and I've done Translations and when you get in if you get into transcriptions and stuff then it can get a whole other mess transcription translations, but It's when they have audio and you have to transcribe the audio into words and then translate and that can be a real issue Because they have timestamps and that yeah, don't worry about that now But yeah, if that's something you get into it can be it can be a whole other headache No, but what I would it's always best if you can get a copy of the file to be translated and Before you confirm so, you know, usually you sent out your email You say this is my rate and you know Available for whatever you need and then they should send you the track the thing to be translated and at which point you can't confirm You know, I'll do it for this much and all that Also, you always you always want the document because many times the word count they come up with their stuff like that is totally off You never know Yeah, they can you know either because they don't know how to do the word count correctly Or they're kind of guessing or something got changed later or you know, but they're trying to get away I mean who knows but you always want to be able to confirm You know and usually though after they send you the file They want confirmation from you that it's okay, and then you can handle it etc so Once you look at the file, then you can get a better idea Especially after you've done the formatting you'll get a better idea how to go about the formatting and and if it'll take you a long time Well, there's several ways to do it. First of all, I would write instead of my rate I'll write my standard rate because then your standard is your standard, but it can always be a bit less or more depending on what happens No, no, no per word. I still do a standard rate per word But then I would say oh, but because this requires more formatting it will you know instead of a total of You know, whatever it might be, you know, three three hundred and ten pounds. It'll be three hundred and twenty five or I don't know something like that and You know and honestly it depends how you feel more comfortable and how with the client usually what I do is I give a standard rate and then if I see that they require a whole lot of formatting or something that if it's a Certain amount of formatting and that I feel I can do and you know It's okay, and it makes the client happy Then I'll do it even if it takes a bit of time if it's a you know too much for them to expect like in a normal Translation, then I usually let them know I say look this this formatting will take me at least two hours or something like that and and you know so you can either pay me for my time or You know or something like that and so usually No, so what I do is I usually just give my rate for the whole job because it's easier for them and you know So I factor it in if my rate for the translation will come out to a hundred and ten pounds and then I figure out You know, it takes me an hour or so to do that And so I round it up to a hundred and forty or something like that I'll be like I can do all this and have it formatted all perfect for you for a hundred and forty pounds If they say anything about the rate I say well, it takes a lot of formatting if you want me to just give you a text thing I can do it for a hundred and ten, but you know that and That's why a certain amount of formatting I do it for free But only if it becomes like a ridiculous amount exactly that takes my time away from other things then I say no, you know That it depends from person to person and you'll get a lot better feel once you start doing more Translations because you'll know what your time is worth and how much time you could be dedicating to other translations But at the beginning it really has to be a judgment call based on you I don't know what this document was But I would say if it takes more than an hour to format You know, that's an hour's worth of your time that you could have been doing something else So at that point maybe do something I have also seen other things where people say I can do translation and I can offer you the translation for this rate plus I'll need an hour formatting my my price for formatting is so and so per hour and so you can try something like that and You know, you can say obviously I'm a translator, but I can do you know Relatively simple formatting and you need it for this and so this is my rate. Whatever you feel most comfortable doing honestly You know and then because it'll it'll probably be you know The client has to get back to you need to feel comfortable talk to them about it. So Exactly, I would do something like that and yeah 350 360 like I usually exactly either factor in or round it up and And and yeah, and then see how they respond if you if and if you do Feel a bit guilty or whatnot about doing it that way you can always say You know, this my total amount this includes 325 whatever for translation plus X amount for formatting