 Kevin they're rebounded advantage especially on the offensive glass and you're mine. What did that just come down to? That was a few bad bounces our way Sometimes we got two contests in the ball when the jump shot and then that leaves the glass vulnerable But it wasn't a lack of effort I don't feel like I feel like We did a great job initially on them defensively stopping the ball stopping penetration You know Duncan Robinson not getting open for three's I think we emphasized that But you know they got second chance they got second shots at the rim after you know The initial stop but overall our physicality on defense was there This is another test very early in this season as we talked about after the last game After this one, what's your big takeaway from it outside of the rebound advantage that they had? What's another big takeaway from this one in this early test? Like how we playing defense the last couple of games, you know, I'm saying I like where our defense is trending I don't like where our offense is going. We I'm not oh, I'll take that back. I feel like we generating good shots. We just Not knocking them down. And so if we continue to generate good shots, we'll put ourselves in good position, but defensively Outside of the rebounding. I think we were in front of them all night Having just seems like pj and you seem to have a lot of those battles going back and forth I know you guys are good friends, but it's ever kind of like a moment on the floor where you guys I Don't know just get tired of seeing each other like that. Absolutely not No, those are the battles that we all like to see Tonight when you when you look at the shooting percentage How much do you attribute that to either their physicality or just to you guys missing shots that you might ordinarily hit? I mean from what I can remember they were doing a lot of especially in the ISO situations. They were Short a lot of bodies towards James and myself and when we kicked it We got a lot of stuff on that backside a lot of shots just didn't fall for us tonight But I think we got a lot of open looks there a lot of driving lanes So they want to initially play physical and you know Shock you with the switches and the jumps and the people in the pain But once you slow down get to the rim drive closeouts, I think we got what we wanted It's just a matter of us knocking it down. I Know roster wise this doesn't really profile like a great Rebounding team, but I mean Steve was talking about not necessarily a matter of physicality or even positioning, but Just guys kind of leaking out, you know getting ready to get up court on offense rather than crash as a team I mean does that speak to do a did you see that and B? Does that kind of speak to more of a team mentality on how you guys are gonna have to get out of this? Get out of what? protecting the offensive Yeah, I mean every game you got to be conscious of offensive rebounds and boxing out and Finish no possession and you know, that's our teams. So I feel like they can beat us because We got a lot of offense and we moved the ball pretty well And we got a solid defense. So, you know, if you can get second chance points, then That's the key. I'm in pretty much for every team if you can create more possessions than your opponents Then it's always good. So we got to be conscious of boxing out and helping each other gang rebounding and then getting out and going Kevin Joe Harris at the franchise record for three pointers made tonight having to play with him for a year now What have you seen from him as a teammate and then guy who's kind of made himself into Player who could lead the league and shooting and set that record. Yeah, he wants to be good. He wants to he wants to be a Impactful player every day and that shows in his work ethic and his attention to detail we're all grown as individuals and as players and Joe has grown so far since His UVA days and Cleveland Cavalier days and once he came here They work with him so much to the point that he understood who he was as a player and he started to You know grow within that role and you know, it's one of those things where you see it in the in the stats So the lead to franchising three-point makes is an amazing accomplishment for somebody from I don't know what town Washington But I'm happy for I think it's like something he goes from yeah, sorry Joe Just you talked about the rebounding margin They had you guys a second chance points, but you guys were still you know It was one possession game five six minutes of you chalk it up to the defense keeping you guys in there Was there something else you guys tapped into there most definitely at the defense? You know, that's what kept us in the game for sure. We was able to get stops Tommy stops when we needed to get back into the game We forced them to shoot over top of us shoot bad shots and I think that attributed to a lot of the rebounders too We should Tyler hero came in and shot a lot of tough shots over us and a lot of long rebounds And it's a lot of 50-50 bars and so I mean I think I think we play extremely hard. I can't I know the stat sheet may say The offensive rebound this means you got out. You know, they were more physical, but a lot of those were You know tips tips us playing physical and they happen to get the ball But I think our intentions were great No more victories. We definitely want to win but it's always a process You know when you trying to become a contender and championship team, so we keep building keep building from here