 Joining us now is one of the most influential voices in the realm of spirituality, in the realm of inner engineering as he would like to call it. Sadhguru, Jaby Vasudev is now joining us live. Thank you very much, Sadhguru, for speaking with us here on CNN News 18. As you are speaking, we are showing these pictures of multitudes of young people who have come out and they have just one request and one appeal and one demand. And that is, please listen to our voice, please save our tamar culture, please save our Jallikattu, which is part of the tamar culture. How would you respond? What are your first reactions on seeing these multitudes of people? I'm glad that youth have come out to represent this. Though much of this youth in Chennai, the urban youth, may never actually be involved in Jallikattu. I'm very glad, I'm proud that they have come out to make this statement for the sake of rural youth because this is a sport which is a widespread participation in rural Tamil Nadu. It has a history of over 4,500 to 5,000 years. You will see the paintings of Jallikattu on the cave paintings in Nilgerese which are over 4,000 years. So this is a sport which is so much a part of their daily life in the sense animals are not seen as animals, animals are partners in our economic well-being because these are farming communities. Animals don't live somewhere else. Animals live in your house along with you. They work with you. They have a share in the harvest that comes out. This is how animals are. These are Jallikattu bulls are so well taken care of. This is not a bullfight as it is in Spain where in an afternoon a dozen bulls will be killed. This is not a fight. This used to be taming in the past but the tradition continues in terms of breeding the best bulls because this is also a way of preserving the genetic pool. India is a nation which had over 120 cattle breeds but today it has only 37 breeds. So if you don't preserve this with sport, with culture, with economic activity you won't have the genetic pool left which is a tremendous loss which nobody can replace. I'm really proud of the youth of Chennai have come out. How do you respond to these young people who say that, look, this is really about a foreign funded NGO or foreign funded NGOs wanting to destroy native breeds and native species of cattle that are indigenous to Tamil Nadu, the bull that's used in Jallikattu, the stud bull. Many of those species are indigenous to Tamil Nadu and they are dying. And if Jallikattu is banned, they could possibly even be extinct. See, the same people who talk about cruelty to animals are promoting slaughter, all right? In India, most of the cattle slaughtered are not consumed for food here. India is the largest beef exporter on the planet. Can you believe that? We are a land which is an agricultural land. We have a history of thousands of years of agriculture. The most important thing for us is to preserve the quality of the soil. This is one of the greatest achievements in this country. Our farmers without any technology, without any infrastructure, they've been producing food for 1.3 billion people which is not a mean feat. And in this animals have an important role but in the last 25 to 30 years we are slaughtering animals and taking them away and slowly our soil is dying. I'm telling you, the quality of the soil in this country has the nourishment value in the vegetables and foods that we grow has come down 30 to 40 percent because we have not taken care of our soil. Taking care of our soil means taking care of our animals. Preserving our animals in this modern society where technology can do anything and everything. In this, we must use it then for economic activity, for cultural purposes, for entertainment, for everything. Only then these animals will be preserved and soil will be preserved otherwise we will not be able to produce food for such a massive population that we have. How do you then respond to folks who say that, look, at the end of the day it's the Supreme Court of India that was apprised of this matter, that took a look at this matter and gave an order. I mean if people are going to go against the Supreme Court's orders then we are basically looking at anarchy. Definitely. So we must understand this. You win or lose a case in a court depending upon how it's presented. These organizations who are doing this, as they have said, they are foreign funded, they are well equipped, they know how to fight court cases. But the farmer, poor farmer who is part of this culture does not know how to fight a case in the court. It is time it's re-represented. There is any way the Pongal is over, Mato Pongal is over, Jallikato time is over. It's again only next year that it comes. So in this twelve months time definitely this injustice must be corrected because without any understanding of the local culture, without understanding the implications on both the animal and the human beings, this is being done. Before you take off Jallikato, you must ensure that the animals are protected, they are not slaughtered. And because the breeds must be protected, the genetic pool must be protected. And apart from that, you must make sure there are football arenas and boxing rings and wrestling rings and all kinds of things for the youth before you take away Jallikato. A simple sport that is there, you want to take it away, what will you replace it with? Okay, tell me this. You started off by saying that many of these young people have come out to Marina Beach and other parts of Chennai have probably not seen a Jallikato. They are doing this for rural youth. Do you think this has gone beyond the realm of political parties? I mean this is not being backed by either ADMK or DMK. I mean they are basically, this is an organic people's movement. How do you explain that? How do you rationalize that? See this question is coming because one who is not convergent with Tamil culture, you must understand on this Pongal, this Mata Pongal day, it's a widespread activity across rural Tamil Nadu. When suddenly you create a vacuum, people have come on the street to express their opinion. As you said, definitely it is not organized by any political party. It is not funded by anybody. It is not an activist group. It is not a self-interest group. These are just people. They are paying that something so integral to part of their lives is just taken away just like that because of some opinion of somebody from somewhere else. When I say somewhere else, these are all western values we are trying to transplant into our society without due consideration. See, someone who is willing to slaughter the bull, the moment there is no Jallikato, these bulls are just queuing up for the slaughterhouse. And that is humane. How is that humane? First ban the slaughter, then we will talk about Jallikato. It's a simple sport which is about embracing the bull, but unfortunately it is being presented as some kind of terrible cruelty. Yes, I've seen horrible videos of cruelty to these bulls in some of the videos, but this is not widespread. It is only in these places where money got involved. People are betting on the animals in those places it went out of hand. It is time that Supreme Court or whoever is the authority must put the necessary norms that these are the things to be done, these are the things not to be done. In the ancient sport of Jallikato, this was all taken care of only now. Once too much money gets involved, people lose the control over these things and do what they do, but district administrations can get involved and make sure such cruelty doesn't happen. So you are essentially saying what many of these young people are saying look, don't ban the sport. You can put whatever regulation you want to put, ensure that you know it's very peaceful, it's non-violent, it doesn't hurt the animal, but don't ban the sport. Definitely, you should not ban the sport. You cannot ban the sport because if you do these kind of things without taking everything into due consideration, if you ban something like this which is dear to the people, now you will create a situation. The highest court passes the order, but people will go ahead and do it. Where are you driving the nation like this? Yeah, I agree. It's like tomorrow morning if you ban cricket, in the last one year, so many people got killed on the cricket field. And I'm telling you, cricket is a dangerous game. At 150 kilometers, a missile is coming at you every time. Don't jet the cricket game by Sachin Tendulkar or Virat Kohli. They can hit any ball that comes at them. If you or me go and stand there, we'll get hit in the head for no time. So it's a very dangerous game, but people play it. Tomorrow if you ban cricket, millions of people will be on the streets. The same has happened with Jallikattu. Let's understand this. Okay. Final word. What do you think the elected representatives need to do, whether it's the state government, the central government? I mean, do you think they should re-represent this case in the Supreme Court so that the Supreme Court gives a favorable order? 100% Tamil Nadu government should re-represent this with proper representation of what it actually means as a sport and what it means to the people, what it means to the animals and what it means to the larger perspective of preserving the soil and preserving the genetic pool in this country. All this must be properly presented. It's very, very important. All right. Satguru, thank you very much. As always, you're not mincing any words and you've come out explaining to our viewers outside of Tamil Nadu what drives these protests and what drives these young people. Thank you very much for joining us on CNN News 18 with your thoughts and perspective.