 This white movie critic is facing some backlash for his tweet and review about the new movie Joyride But let's talk about if the hate towards him is warranted at all and maybe what did he say that was so wrong? We're talking about lights camera Jackson versus Adele Lim who wrote crazy rich Asians produced Joyride Andrew We talk about a lot of things on this podcast from silly to serious I'm gonna go ahead and put this firmly in the silly category and but you know what's not silly your favorite song Race Wars in America So make sure you like subscribe turning your notifications and your long story short man Of course anybody is entitled to their opinion on anything right that is one of the tenants And especially when it comes to like reviewing media pieces your extra entitled however And sometimes you can feel something from your tone that makes it feel like how do you really feel about our entire group of people? Especially now that there's a big Asian American representation movie movie a movement and you can identify With certain pieces more as a part of your internal identity than others. Yeah for sure. All right guys We're gonna get into the comment section. Please hit that like button as always All right Let me just read his tweet that kind of went viral and then it caused Adele Lim the producer to respond Joyride is embarrassing incredibly unpleasant like most modern adult comedies It's a raunchy simply to be raunchy forgetting that there has to be humor attached and there's definitely none of that It objectifies men targets white people all shock value with a look at me attitude to which she replied I'm a need objectifies men targets white people on a t-shirt But she also said you know This is not about the thing but she said it's the first time that we are putting four Asian faces in the middle of a R-rated comedy if you f up if a project with a queer leader black leader or Asian lead fails the industries need your Reactions to blame it on the otherness so you don't want to that fear to paralyze you and keep from Creating from a place of joy because that is how you create great art. Obviously is creating from a place of joy Yeah I think when you have the producer of the movie respond to your tweet obviously gets more attention and now you know from just Being your 10,000 Twitter followers. It becomes this whole thing You know he had to turn off his replies and because he was getting roasted. Yeah I don't think people were threatening him But I think a lot of people are like, oh, you can't handle the jokes blah blah blah all this other stuff So I guess we want to get into it real quick Andrew I gotta ask you because you watch this movie I did anything that lights camera Jackson said do you do you feel like it was what he said or is it the Way he said it or what is it? Just how he looks and it's a identity race war. Well, it could be all of the above right? Well, David, you know as the movie savant as I am, you know, let me just tell you I do think it's okay to have your criticism. I think that the things he said are not like outrageous I think the movie objectified Asian men in a fun and positive way But like in a jokingly way it did in a way that they never get objectified Which is a historical context for anything. There is some shock value in it. Of course It is a raunchy comedy. Is it meant to just be much is there funny joke? Yes Did a hundred percent of the jokes land with a hundred percent of the people watching? No Does it so contextual does it target white people in the beginning it does it makes some jokes about white corporate men But it's not that bad man, but I guess I just think that his tone He didn't say anything positive about it and he just sounded super whiny and and and this is another reason why people are hating on it They saw him tweet about everything everywhere all at once and he was hyper critical about that too But he did give what a 50-50 review to the other past lives. Yeah, I mean, here's the truth, right? Everything is contextual like what anytime you see a white guy say, oh, this is targeting white people He's obviously not following up with a tweet being like yes I understand that white people dominated Essentially most of the globe in the past 300 years. So technically it's not really punching It's punching up and not well down here. Let me tell you this action Jackson whatever lights camera He's called him action Jackson. All right, if I is an Asian man Wanted to crap on every movie that ever played out an Asian male character Then I would be just writing off almost 50% of the movies that had an Asian male character if not more like right off the bat I just be like well this was targeting Asian men because they put Asian men in a nerdy light It said that we had small PPs. This is a bad movie like easy That's why we have to get into the comment section because a lot of people were talking about white fragility A lot of people are not used to white people in 2023. I guess you could say it's more It's more okay to joke on them. Yeah, it's true. It's true. That is true No, it's true that they are kind of the more joked on race right now Um, I hope it's not hurting too many feelings, but I would just say, you know, I don't think the jokes are too harsh So I got three sections of comments today. I got some from Asian commenters that were obviously defending George I'd primarily I have older white conservatives They have their own section and sort of like very liberal progressive whites That are like against this Jackson guy. Well, all right, David, you know, I love a good race war So let's go through the comments. So these are comments from Asians off Instagram Somebody said after reading his review of everything all at once. I knew his reviews cannot be trusted Somebody said there are valued valid critiques of this film. This man's critiques. However are not valid Um, is this true or not? Can you invalidate somebody doesn't look like he's I would say that this guy certainly doesn't seem like He's spotting the Asian representation movement any additional points No, and I think that would he go this hard on a movie with black people in it, David Latin people Yeah, that's the classic question guys Is he going extra hard because it's Asian movie and Asians are the not super oppressed minority I don't know somebody said when the entire existence of white people comedy is based on homophobia Fatphobia, transphobia and racism. Um, this was like another thing obviously, you know from the previous I guess previous decades Andrew there for sure was a lot of white male bro comedies that they did sometimes make Yeah, I mean listen the all famous hangover, you know, they still did they kind of make some Asian jokes? Yeah, sort of not they maybe weren't the worst, but they made some Asian jokes Somebody said f off and let us enjoy our movies not everything is meant to appeal to white men Do you think it's true Andrew like like straight white guys might not like joy ride because it might not play to their Sensibilities because like we are saying Andrew comedy is not like singing singing that person is objectively good at singing Comedy oftentimes is what you relate to or how it plays with your worldview. Yeah, for sure I would also say that Asians don't have to take what he said with so much weight either because who is he? Is he just one of those tomato reviewers that pop up? I'm rotten tomatoes Then who cares somebody says not everything has to revolve around white men being the alpha and every type of minority Woman swooning over him, huh? Finally, it's nice to poke at fun of white people for a change This is clearly white fragility talking about their waning dominance over the world Yeah, trust me not every comedy moving forward is going to make fun of white dudes all the time Okay, this is truly one of the only movies that kind of does that to be honest Somebody said man other races have had jokes targeted them for decades It seems like he never turned learned how to take a joke. Obviously. There's a lot of attacks Somebody said man, I'm just playing this tiny violin for him and somebody said why are people just giving him so much attention? It really should be about global adoption too Like people need to talk to what this is doing for the global like adoption trade bringing light to it Oh, that's a really interesting point and maybe this person is has a friends that are adoptees or isn't an adoptee themselves But yes, it is a story about an adopted Asian girl So, of course, you know that could open up that conversation, but you're right. That's not getting any light, right? But to be fair, I'm not by the way. I'm not taking with this guy's name side I don't know if everybody has to speak to somebody About what this movie means to that community to review the movie Oh, no, no, no listen to review a movie or to review anything Especially in the age of the internet all you got to do is watch it and have an opinion But of course this guy is touts himself as a Emmy award-winning critique critic or whatever So I'm saying like I guess he Does feel like he has some more weight. I mean to be honest what he said is fair Critique in a way. I think it's just that he didn't say anything positive about it Which is crazy, right? But at the same time does a critic have to and why does everybody care about what this guy was like 10,000 reviews Maybe maybe we shouldn't care what a white guy thinks. Yeah, let's get into the Yahoo news section And you know, there's gonna be something spicy here someone said so she gets called out for anti-white bigotry and her response from her And her fellow leftist is to double down on it remarkable This is what actual privilege in 2023 looks like it's minority privilege Minorities are allowed to ridicule stereotype and make fun of white people in their culture and even do whiteface But if the situation is reversed, it would be called racist and the artist would be hounded out of their jobs Somebody said show me one example of whiteface and somebody said white chicks. All right Middude, I think when comedies are so ridiculous like Joy Wright is or the movie white chicks There is a little bit of a pass. You can't always pull the well reviews reverse it then, you know I mean you can but like obviously we are all operating in several centuries of I guess you would say whatever you want to categorize as white if you want to say it's Anglo-Saxon whatever like white global dominance Right, everybody has to acknowledge that if we're being super real in P in the layers of the onion back But if you want me to be super real all these people leaving the more conservative comments will never and have not seen the movie Right somebody said if if she was darker He would not have made that comment that was against her initially, right? No, like that's that's I think this comment is saying that if it was Joy ride with like four black women Maybe he's not tweeting that maybe action Jackson isn't tweeting it that hard What if he is just a heritageist instead of being a racist? He was like if your group wasn't in America past longer than 50 years. That's when I don't care about you. I Notice that that's like a thing actually. I'm gonna make another video about that some people Andrew are stopping to become American They're not as much racist as they are Heritage is the foundational You are not a foundational American the people go against you somebody said white men are usually Generally pretty big fans of Asian entertainment. Perhaps you shouldn't insult your biggest fans You know run off white people and see how many black people switch from BET to watch Joy Ride This was a comment from a white male Hmm. Um, that's an interesting comment This is a oh yeah And by the way when he says fans of Asian entertainment what Asian entertainment is that the hub? Mr. Jesse, you know, it's the hub moving on to liberal white comments going against lights camera Jackson Andrew Somebody said oh no Will somebody think of us the poor targeted white people and this guy said we white men will just have to be satisfied with controlling the Overwhelming majority of political offices cultural output and financial capital in this country. What was us? What is us? Yeah, I here's my thing when it comes to white fragility. Listen I Understand that maybe as a white guy you feel like you're getting made fun of a little bit more because for sure The heat has got cranked up a little bit as a white man You are getting made fun of more and getting joked on more than it was in past history But I just want to ask the question. What are the statistics to show that white men are being discriminated against or? Oppressed in any way right show me the stats That are measurable. Yeah, instead of just being like, oh, well I didn't like that joke about what men in a movie when white guys should just always begin with the Asian girl But instead it seems like Ling Ling is talking back. Let me turn off joy ride and throw on some of these James Bond movies What's up with these women man? None of them are hooking up with white dudes in this movie something's off I mean, is it true though that humans Andrew? They more go off the normalized baseline of what they expect rather than like contextualizing everything in terms of like the Raw score of everybody right so obviously if white guys were are used to being up 60 points in a basketball game and all Suddenly they're only up like 35 technically mathematically. That's minus 25. I think they're up still 45 you guys are good Somebody said objectifies men targets white people sounds like a line from legislation Originating in Texas or Florida and then some white person said I mean it's true We're so lame and then another person was a little bit more moderate They said the critics lying about targeting white people is silly having seen it every other part of what he said though is Fair so this was more of like somebody being like oh, I didn't like that part But yeah, that movie is just like raunchy. It just is a hangover for women Yeah, you know why the targeting white people line is important here because it all it makes it a race thing Because he could have left a review at I didn't like the story. I wasn't into the characters. It was raunchy for no reason I think that's like critique that like, you know, you can have but when he said well and it's targeting white people and then Objectifying men. It's like bro. How it objectifies men is that's crazy that those two lines it is that's what it del Limchett It sounds kind of goofy. Yeah, it does sound. It's she didn't she didn't get bad She didn't get mad at him about oh, this is too raunchy. She got mad and be like, you know, really I mean, she didn't really diss him that bad saying I need that on a t-shirt I mean, I think people are also contextualizing it within his review of everything all at once which uh, to be fair I mean that movie is very frenetic. He called it like jumbled But yeah, I mean what do I think this guy is a good movie reviewer? No Do I but I do I think he's entitled to his opinion But do I think this also turned into a race war in the Instagram comment section David in the takeaway You know, do you think it's kind of like open season on white people when white people are like, man They're making fun of us man. It's open season on why we're the only people that it's okay to make fun of yeah I feel like in Hollywood right now. There's a moment where it is more acceptable, but it's kind of weird because It's like very very nuanced I don't even know if I have enough time to explain this but like there could be people who like most of their friends are white Like they only date other white people whether they're a guy or a girl or whatever that orientation They are but they only date other white people, but they still tweet a lot of like white jokes And there could be people living in an Asian enclave or and they're completely life is like so Asian And they would never tweet anything bad about white people, right? So it's kind of hard to say like just because you make jokes on white people It doesn't mean that you're anti-white hegemony or supremacy either exactly But you could totally be buying into it while dissing them because that's what's in vogue right now Yeah, I have an Instagram clip where I kind of poke fun and maybe dating white girls I had fun with it's a joke. Yeah context So what I'm saying is like these slipstreams within like culture of what is okay to make up fun of or punch up Or punch down at I don't know if there's always the macro translation to like global society that people are drawing Yeah, you know what in the movie? I'll give you a spoiler listen There's a white boss that is in the movie and he's still a tall white boss of her Okay, and even though there's like some jokes about him being like a ultra PC white guy It's not that bad bro. It's not that bad. It's honestly. I have a pretty good sensor of this guys It's not that bad But you know what the funny thing is Andrew people want to make this about joy ride But it's basically about like it is about white dawn it's globally and white fragility about Potentially that dominance feeling endangered. Well, thank you action flick Jackson for making it about white guys But you know the interesting thing is nobody in the comments section wants to take it to that macro like almost like Earth-stopping level right people want to keep it within the context of the movie They don't want to take it to the race wars of America Even though that might be the symptom, you know the core of the symptoms This should be our theme song. Anyways, all right guys Let me know in the comments down below. Have you seen the movie joy ride? Do you think his critique has any merit? Did it seem like his tone was off? And are we just going to get mad at every single critic that that that that critiques an Asian movie? I mean I get why we do because it's a kind of our identity But I feel like that's an attack on us because we're finally getting our shot after what a hundred years in American cinema Since 1920 or whatever. Sorry. Sorry. Listen if I'm a numberist, but he only had like 9,000 followers on Twitter I don't really care. Hey guys, honestly, I think there's valid arguments on all sides Like I said silly to serious to me it's silly, but some people took it real serious Until next time let us know what you think in the comment sections. We out. Peace