 What is the federal government of Nigeria's much touted energy transition plan about? Nigeria's vice president recently had a grand tour of the United States over this energy transition plan and the president of the country is talking about its job creating potential. We'll discuss this ahead on the breakfast. And also on the breakfast, the international break is upon the football world and Nigeria's super eagles are not left out. We'll preview their upcoming friendly match with a sports analyst. And also we have a usual segment looking at the big headlines on the front pages of national dailies today. We'll look at some of the big stories and analyze a few of them. We're back, it's a brand new day, a Friday and of course reaching you live in my studios on Victoria La Lagos, the breakfast is live on Plus TV Africa. My name is Kofi Bartels. And I am Messi Ibupo, let's go to have you join us. Fantastic, as usual. We start things off with a top training segment where we're looking at the latest trending issues. So we take them from a social media, bring them on air. And of course, look at what everybody's talking about, provide a bit of insight and analysis right here. But we have interesting conversations. Messi looking quite brilliant this morning. Thank you. Yeah, fantastic indeed. You too. I mean, your face looks quite different. Well, I had some makeup today. Interesting. Messi lent me a makeup artist. But I'm talking about looking brilliant. And brilliance is always talked about also when it comes to academics and then the academic qualifications of the presidential candidates. So by so far approved and of course announced by the independent national electoral commission and I couldn't leave anyone out. All 18 of them were published in that ionic list. We've been looking at presidential candidates so far. We've not dived or dived into the governorship and other candidates. But one of the controversial candidates is Peter Gregory will be. Peter Gregory will be the presidential candidate of the Labour Party. And he seems to be a rising force who might make a big, big, big impact more than a splash in the next election. His supporters are quite vocal on social media. And of course, even in the public space, wherever you go, you have a lot of his supporters seem to be quite a wave. They even have a name for themselves, the obedient movement, really a rising force in Nigeria's politics as we speak ahead of the 2023 elections. Well, he was sure to get attention and get tongs wagging when his own column on that spreadsheet released by the independent national electoral commission for the candidates in the presidential election. His own column, when he looked at the educational qualifications, it had just a degree written there. There was no talk of whether it's a degree, a BSC, MSC, what exactly the degree was about. We talked a bit about this yesterday on the program. And it led to some questions being asked by supporters of his opponents, you know, saying what exactly is going on. He doesn't have a degree. And that's why nothing was written there. He has only a school certificate. And of course, I guess yesterday morning on this discussion, we had a wide-ranging discussion on the announcement by INEC, said probably it could be an issue of computation by INEC staff, you know, because you can see some of the candidates had the details of their masses of PhD stated. For instance, Bola Metinubu wrote that he had a degree in accounting. Rabi Musa Kwan-Kosu, one of the few, very few PhD holders, had a PhD in water, but they didn't even put a full thing there. So I guess, you know, he was a conjecturing, saying probably it was as a result of maybe poor or lazy computation by INEC. But the supporters of PDB's opponents said, hey, this is an issue here. He didn't submit his certificate. He has no bachelor's degree. And that's why they wrote, you know, GCE, or I think GCE, and a degree. Because if he had a degree submitted, he would have written it, that he had a degree, maybe the MSC, sorry, a BSE in this that nothing was written, but his supporters were not going to take this keeping quiet. They were not going to take this lying low. They had to look and dig out pictures of copies of his university degree, not just that. That is from University of Nigeria, UNN, they had to dig that out, not just that. They also dug out his NYSE certificate. And the publish did online. It was quite interesting to see coming days after INEC released the names of candidates. So his university degree, his NYSE certificates are now in the public document. I'm even looking at a copy of it. Still, some persons raised the pick holes in his university certificate. Merci. Say, oh, okay, you've published his university certificate. I think Oseloka, he's an aide to Peter, he published Peter's university degree on his Twitter account on September 21. That's about two days ago. But some people said, hey, we're not taking this, look at it there. People went to calculate the date. Merci. People opened their phone calendars and had to calculate the date, particular day this was issued. And I mean, if you look at the 15th of December, 1984, 1984, as it says, you may not really guess, can you tell what day of the week it was? You can't. But some opponents will be actually, or supporters of his rivals, went to dig out the date and said, oh, it's a Saturday. It's a Saturday. This must be fake. It must be a doctorate degree certificate. How can you receive a degree on Saturdays? Do universities work on Saturdays? And his supporters made to say, oh, that's a wrong session. Your degree is given to you, probably. They would date it on the convocation day. Some people said, oh, they attended UNN. They attended UNN. They got their own degrees dated the day they convoked, which was a Saturday. So the school dated the Saturday. Some went as far as digging up some degrees online. I saw somebody who uploaded to Twitter, university degree or some issue. I don't want to go into that. If you look at the date, it was a Sunday. It's quite interesting. But the man, the man himself has also had some things to say about this. Because one of his aides, actually, his media aide, Valentine OBM, he's not the one who published this, requested to publish his Bachelor of Arts degree certificate. And Peter O'Bee, we at all disagreed with his aides on the need to publish the certificate. He disagreed with them. According to what we hear, the former Lambra State Governor said that the possession of paper qualification is not and cannot become the measure of wisdom and intelligence. This is what we're hearing. He's saying that the possession of paper qualification is not and cannot become the measure of wisdom and intelligence. Just giving the background to this. So we thought that his media aide, he had on several occasions advised Peter O'Bee, his boss, that it is necessary for him to publish his certificate so as to later arrest the public debate concerning whether he attended a university or not and obtain any legitimate degree. Now, some people, having seen that he studied philosophy, you know, because he had a second-class law division in philosophy, have also gone ahead to compare him with the likes of Tico Abubakar. Mercy, in fact, Tereno Mokri, who is a self-styled table shaker. When he was a Buarito mentor, everybody was on the same table with him. But now he's become an Obito mentor. People who were with him have now deserted him. It's a funny way social media goes. But Renu said, you know, and he is just one example of those who have been saying this thing. So I'll pick him because it's prominent online. He said that Kwankwa so has a PhD in water, water engineering from India. Tico has a master's in international relations from the UK. Telenbu has a B.S.C. in accounting allegedly from Chicago. These are Renu's words. In contrast, Obi has a bachelor's degree in philosophy who is better qualified educationally. So trying to, you know, say indirectly that Obi may not be qualified as qualified as a rest because he went to school to study philosophy. Some of the comments are quite interesting. I'll tell you what one person said just to read one comment. Okay, I read that later. Well, so quickly, I mean, if you look at all of this, it's a very good thing that first of all, you have Nigerians asking questions and they are concerned. I think it's a development. A lot of people have appraised that. There seem to be some progress right here in a democratic process because prior to now, the Nigerians have been described as docile, not just very docile. They don't participate in the electoral process, but it's a good thing to see, you know, people waking up and questioning those who are going to be calling the shots. For instance, you're vying for the position or you're vying to become the president of a country, governor, chairman and what have you and Nigerians are asking questions about some critical issue. However, we also need to understand that the constitution, basic requirement for you to become president, the constitution say that they have to be citizen of Nigeria by and have attained the age of 35. And that's it. And they are members of a political party and sponsored by that political party and have been educated up to at least school certificate level or it's equivalent. And so, you know, that's it really. I know a lot of persons have actually raised questions. It brings us back to the issue of, you know, the emphasis that we've placed on the certificate and no one is saying that that's really bad, having a degree master's degree and of course, getting to the peak of it, which is, you know, a PhD. But it's also another conversation to see whether or not that translates to good governance and having, you know, policies that will favor the masses as a different conversation. But with this, I don't think that it should be a big issue because, first of all, PTAOB belongs to a political party. And before you actually begin to campaign or vie for it, you know, contest for the election, there should be some process of verification. I don't think that, I mean, for instance, if you're going to, you know, apply for anything, I mean, there's a process. So I don't think that this should be a question. If this is raised, the relevant quarters should be ready, up and ready, which I think that would have already happened because before he, you know, was given the ticket to become, you know, a presidential flag bearer of a certain party, the process, the checks and, you know, balances would have been done, checking his certificate and his background and all of that. And then they would definitely say his credit worthy. I mean, he is worthy of becoming a flag bearer and getting to the part where you have INEC also, you know, bringing out the list. This is like a final list. I'm sure that there should be a process, you know, verification of all of the documents that have been presented and to ascertain whether or not these documents are false or not. So also, it's a good thing, like I say. And Suka is not, you know, outside of Nigeria. Suka is here in Nigeria and so it's not difficult. If there's any question, it's questionable because that's also another issue, the issue of forgery. So if you look at the issue of, oh, the data at the time it was issued and what have you and all of the, you know, discrepancies with the certification, then it's okay to approach the school. You know, letters and petition should be written and, you know, migrants deserve to know the best. And so if anything, it's quite different, then it's okay. We remember a certain time where a very prominent show smiths of finance, right? And the issue, as I said, I'm not mistaken on top of it. The issue of, you know, the NYC certification and what have you. But I know that because once upon a time I was really saddled with the responsibility of mining my mom's secretariat and so you do letters. So basically I manage letters, I type the letters and sometimes you're addressing a letter to certain, you know, a person, maybe an organization or what have you. I could be doing the letter on a Saturday, but usually because the school was respected Monday to Friday is a walkday. It's important to back date. And so it's that you're doing a letter on a Saturday, but you back date it to Friday. So it just feels like, okay, it's an official date. However, the date of graduation, because we know that we live in a climb where at the time where you graduate and from the time your certificate is being issued, it's not the same. So you could probably graduate in 2015 and you have, you know, a convocation in 2018 and your certificate could be issued maybe in 2021 or 2022. But that's it. Moving away from that, for the want of time, Asha Buhari has celebrated her daughter in law. I mean, it's something that has continued to trickle down. It's a conversation that has been on for, you know, the past days because she celebrates, she celebrated her daughter's in-laws graduation. In the midst of ASUS strike, of course, now to be very logical, is there any law that prohibits anybody, anybody, whether you were of the elite or not of the elite to acquire an education or to celebrate anyone that's outside of the country? No, but we understand where Nigerians are coming from. I mean, like I mentioned rightly, it's in the midst of the strike. And that has generated a lot of boars and talks and energies flowing back and forth. And people are not excited, especially when she's the wife of the president and, you know, the president is the president and everyone is expecting that, oh, the president should be concerned. But generally, as much as he might not be within his fair, even though, you know, there might just be a little of some sort of, you know, influence, not officially. But I think that it's just the general issue that we're faced with. If it's important to us, we will pay attention to it. And that's what it is. So every other time we find ourselves outside of the country, you know, getting admission, trying to further our education, because we don't even believe in the system that we have as a system walkable. I mean, there are several questions and really, should we be worried about this? Should this really be a conversation? This are some of the questions that are being asked and also begging for answers. But to say that one does not understand, you know, the consent of Nigerians and those who are speaking, because some people have described this particular act as insensitive. We also remember that, you know, a speaker or a recently also took a picture where he was in Harvard or Derabat, if I'm not mistaken. And then, of course, he came to apologize, saying, you know what, it wasn't a deliberate act to say, but I think it really hurts a lot of persons who see this happen because everyone is not, you know, blessed with the same resources. I mean, and down, not everyone can afford to have an education outside of this country. And so it might just be very saddening when people sit back and watch that those who should have some level of influence and control to ensure that the system, the education system works. I want to wake up one day. Maybe I hope I live to that time where we have a country that you have people, I mean, citizens of the United States, citizens from Germany, France, and what parts of the country come to Nigeria to acquire education. That's the kind of country I'm hoping to see. And I hope to see it, you know, I hope I'm alive to see it eventually. And if that doesn't happen, I hope he happens, you know, sometime because it's really, really saddening, you know, if you want to look at it. But everyone has a right, you know, to to express themselves. Movement is what we're talking about. And there's no lot that's restricting anybody not to. And so it might not just be your problem. But morally, he might be a concern. Kofi, I know that you, you probably would have something to say about this. Yes, Mercier. For a lot of time, let's move to the next story. Of course, I'm sure you must have seen the pictures in this video in particular of a police officer who was bleeding, a female police officer who was bleeding from the head, you know, had some blood coming down her face. And this happened to because the story began on Ravelling and you're seeing some of the pictures of this, you know, if you watch the video, I don't know if you have that. It's really, really a gory one. Won't wonder what happened to this police officer. Well, of course, it's no news that Nigerians on Thursday faulted the deployment of police orderly for protection of a university professor after the officer was allegedly assaulted by the university professor. You can see this police only sitting on the floor bleeding from her face. She was assigned to a female professor identified as Zainab Duke Abiola, who was said to have been admitted to the hospital. She was admitted to the hospital after being tortured on the orders of her principal. You can see her lying on the hospital bed there, allegedly on the orders of her principal. She was tortured. We hear this up and so in the federal capital Teradriabuja. And what happened? We hear that the police officer was assigned to the professor by the police force headquarters in Abuja. You know, they've been saying that, you know, I think some time ago one of the plethora of IGPs we've had said, oh, no more use of police personnel for private protection. You know, that's not the use of the police. But you can see this one has exposed them that this woman was assigned police orderly right from the force headquarters. We had happened around area 11 axis and the video clips showed like I said, the woman police officer sitting on the floor and bleeding. But I want to go to what because the police were calling on this, you know, I mentioned the police for regulations officer, force headquarters Abuja. He's been on Twitter. I tweet a lot, you know, about almost everything. Prince Olu Muiwa Adejabu is his name. And he swiftly, you know, tweeted about this saying they were on top of the situation. The lady has been reached by the police and they're doing everything to bring justice to bear on this matter. But IGPs are not having it. They would say we want to see pictures of her in police custody after all. If it was some other person, you may have put their pictures out to show you may have paraded them even before the press. And he promptly put up pictures of the professor writing a statement, you know, in police station, et cetera, et cetera. So I think they've been investigating this for some days. And I joined the concern about, you know, fact that this professor being the VIP who was assigned an orderly from the force headquarters might be allowed to get away with a slap on the wrist. You know, the Nigerians say, you know, we don't want this to happen. Justice for the police officer. Well, this is what the police public relations officer force headquarters, Abuja said on Twitter yesterday, said quote, the grievous assault on woman police officer IGP condemns act orders express prosecution of case. He went on to say as professor, other corporates arrested. Okay, that's as professor, other corporates arrested. That's a writer to that. He said the Inspector General Police IGP has strongly condemned the grievous assault of a police officer. Inspector Teju Moses by her principal, who is a legal practitioner, human rights activists, Professor Zainab Dukh, Biola and her domestic staff, comprising the housemaid, Juan Rebecca in Nechido and a male suspect currently at large. He says Zainab Dukh an NBC born activist, grievously assaulted her orderly in a company of some accomplices on Tuesday, 20 of September, 2022 at her residence in Garke, Abuja due to the refusal of the orderly to breach profess professional ethics by carrying out menial and domestic chores at her house. The IGP has directed the express prosecution of the arrested suspects who are currently police custody as a preliminary investigation shows overwhelming evidence of culpability on the part of the professor and her domestic staff. So I mean lots of people said okay fine we're happy, you know we're happy but we hope that this case would not enter voicemail like we say in Nigeria. Well so Kofi this is really saddening where at the time where we're talking about what's saying and police brutality but if you look at it let's even get back to the foundation just like you have mentioned and so it's a situation where there you have about 80 according to the reports has been put out of my current police officers actually providing personal security for prominent people in Nigeria. The IGP had lamented this and so it leaves about 20% you know of police officers to police the entire you know country at the end of the day what's even been left. This is actually not what it is and so constantly we have contributed it's a combined effort it's a combination you know of the effort of Nigerians prominent Nigerians or the elite if you want to say you know because it ranges from the bishops honorable members what have you everyone wants a police officer to actually protect them what's the reason where you have you know the police created police was created to ensure that this peace and order maintained in a civil you know society and that's what it is and over time we've also seen the involvement of the military the military has no business in a civil dispensation I mean they were created to protect the country against external attacks and defending territorial integrity but over time we have subjected the Nigerian military to you know harassing people who take I mean somebody's own youth you know invite the military military officer to go and you know intervene that's not what they were meant for even we see the military involved in policing civil cases I mean that's not what they were meant for and now to even think that the police that was created I mean the creation of the police to ensure that you know they are maintaining order in the civil dispensation but now you have a group of peasants who have decided to take a chunk of these officers to provide personal security for them and your families but let's even look at it holistically now imagine that the police is able to you know provide security and show that the environment is entirely safe free and safe there will be no need for us to have you know a police officer you are as an honorable member you are as a b-shop and what have you to to be in need of a personal police I mean security now having the police providing personal security for you and your family so if we're able to address the issue generally everyone can go about their businesses without it now I'm not also to look at the fact that the police is also grappling with the issue of personal the police is on the stab as a you know 2022 according to the report is made available 371,000 that's the number of police officers that we have even not mistaken and that's the report like I mentioned is out there to please how many million peasants 211 million peasants that's a lot but we take a break now because we're out of time and when we return will be time for us to go through the front pages of our national dailies call it off the press please stay with us