 That's just fun to watch he is backs fresh off of his defense of his championships slam dunk there he is to us from a car I like this I like this for you Mac I don't know what's going on here congrats by the way what was the celebration like for you and Indy it was great all my friends and family were there so just kind of enjoying it with them and really just taking it all in Mac out of last year's performance obviously that was one for the ages but this dunk contest versus last dunk contest how would you compare them which one were you most proud of they're both you know I was really you know grateful for both but I think definitely the first one but I had more in the tank on the second one I just you know I just it didn't go as well for me but you know I'm glad about the outcome but I definitely I definitely think I had a better performance in my mind all right Mac let's be honest Jalen Brown wasn't supposed to be in that fight what's your what's your opinion on that did you did you think any of the other guys were more deserving or what was your experience yeah I mean I think Jacob Toppin you know has some incredible dunks and I heard he had a crazy dunk for the last dunk but it's hard for me to like you know make opinion about someone else's opinion like I can't you know judge for the other guys and you know yeah no it was it was tough I definitely thought he was great and I thought you know Jalen Brown wasn't as you know I know people are giving him our time but I thought he had some good ducks too which one Wow I mean the 360 women like it's not as easy as he made it look I mean there's a lot of things I think I think he definitely got some flak for the kai's and that one but I don't know man Duncan and being on that stage is not easy so I wouldn't I wouldn't get flack to anybody he said he stepped up and did that which was big for him in our game thank you it's with him back did you love that there was an all-star that was competing with you like did that put any more pressure on you or do you think that was great for the dunk contest yeah it definitely is good I mean we want the all stars to be in it and people who want to be in it so I thought that was really cool him and your first dunk the self-value you called the the whoop-whoop that was incredible and it only got the score of 48 from the judges who by the way I thought the judges were pretty horrendous were you surprised no no not a 50 on this that dunk was because this is insane yeah incredible bro look at this yeah so I mean I was I was I usually put my arms out a lot farther on it but so I didn't I didn't you know if it didn't get a 50 I understood but no it's probably the hardest dunk I had to do all night so I was I was I definitely was surprised it got a 47 or 48 whatever it got I was a little stressed for you right here Matt because that the judges were getting crushed rightfully so it's almost like they didn't know that you know doing it on the second attempt is not to be taken points off and then I thought if Matt doesn't advance because the judges suck I think it's gonna be a problem oh yeah that being said when you practice these dunks for example a guy like Shaq there aren't a ton of stand-ins walking around earth that look like Shaq how do you practice that dunk yeah so I just had a bunch of my friends come and they would stand on boxes stand on chairs yeah but no we would just get a measuring tape and try to figure it all out but I'm glad it worked out that's all it's crazy no push-off no nothing nothing wow Matt how many hockey has also used Shaq as a prop but when you saw him did you did you consider like changing things up or you knew when he used Shaq the way he did it like my dunk is gonna be better than that so it's tough because I didn't do to the dunks I was supposed to do and one of them was involved Shaq but a little something different and I don't know maybe I'll just keep that myself so I can maybe if I do it again I can use it but no there's a lot of off the off the top just random randomness in that dunk contest for me yeah Matt the dunk over Shaq obviously got you 50s and you won the dunk contest but when like when did you when did you ask Shaq like can you do this did you rehearse with him at all like how did that kind of develop yeah so I got a decent relationship with Shaq he's been very supportive me since even high school just checking in with me I texted him like hey would you know would you do that with me and he was like yeah but I didn't tell him about the jersey till in front of everybody I was like you know I'm just gonna wait and it'd be hard to know say no in front of everybody he was really cool and he said I better not miss it but if he puts on the game city jerseys I was like all right I won't miss it Matt I know you said did you had a couple of dunks still in your back pocket so I was gonna roll over to next year are you gonna unveil them on Instagram or something we'll see man I don't know you know I probably two days out from it I'm just gonna keep thinking and and see if it's right and and we'll go from there we're writing it down we're keeping notes yeah so when you look at next year's dunk contest obviously a lot has to do with what where your future is at where you're playing but do you do you right now two days out do you feel like you want to do the dunk contest again how do you view the dunk contest after two years of doing it and winning it yeah I really don't know I really don't know what I even you know my energy towards it would be and it just be happy to be something I think about it's not something I would say I'm not doing it's not something I would sign up for right now so I would just just think on it really really deeply and try to figure out my hearts in the right place for it and if you know it takes a lot of your body it's not something that's easy to do so it's a long preparation and and and you know dedication if you decided to do it again and it felt right and it felt good considering your opponents who would be your dream team of guys you would like to compete against yeah I mean it's great to have the stars out there I don't know I want people to do it who really want to do it though you know I mean because it's like we were saying it's the it's the craft it's a lot of preparation it's not easy it can be embarrassing you know so just someone who really wants to and I think some of these stars that are super athletic should do it and and it could be nothing but good form and no offense to us but we figured we bring someone in who knows a lot about dunk so Vince Carter was there in Indy then so what did you think would you see I was impressed man I mean look here what back just said man just gives me chills because I've been saying it it's it's you want the stars and the people who are able to do it to do it to get in there and which I think I'll make a great competition and I think that's what we're missing but forcing these guys to do it you won't get the what you know what you really want and I love the fact that those guys you know obviously Mack is defended but like Jalen Brown and Jaime and in top and getting in it but you know because they want to and you're gonna get their best effort but it's time to see you know for these superstars to just come on out there and put on the show they're very capable of it you know bump the brand I think if you put a great show on your brand will be safe regardless if you want to lose you you push the envelope you know everybody's gonna enjoy the competition Aaron Gordon who didn't win we're still like hey his brand was okay he didn't take a hit no it didn't Mack how many how much inspiration how much motivation how many ideas do you get from someone like Vince or some of the past dunk contest participants yeah I think with a guy like Vince it was like you kind of learn from his swag with it like he just came in there so like confident and it played to the fans like it's just it's it's really a lot like you have to really think really deeply and it just kind of be your aura and your determination for it and I think I got that from Vince just like his swag coming into the arena like I'm here you know I got I wanted to be in it you know I felt like this was an opportunity I wanted to be in it obviously I you know the league asked but I wanted to be a part of it and when once you get there like I said man you have to you have to be confident and I prepared for it like I took it seriously and you know it wasn't just oh I'm here I'm going to just have fun and just go about it now I approached it you know like a game day and I was just ready to go and I think that's why I was able to put on a great show like Mack has done by the events can you judge next year please thank you because see no no because see here's my thing I was on I was actually on true TV doing the contest so I just more so gave my opinions on it and you know since we're here it says Mac you're here I want to say to him that I was I was impressed about it's a lot of pressure obviously defending and you know however you view the competition however fans do the competition whatever it is you still have to go out there and do your job and the one thing I was impressed with Mac was he did what needed to be done in each situation and what I mean by that is I think the last dunk he could have pushed the envelope and I've seen video because I've seen you before I've seen video and I know with that dunk there's other things that you can do with it that I've seen you do like dunking from from behind I know that but he did the right dunk it was wowing but it was safe for him and he got the job done which I thought he thought things through a little bit and I was impressed with that so I got to ask both of you I got you here prime Vince Carter oh man prime Mac McClung who are we taking in the dunk contest don't don't it's not close man it's not even close that's Vince all day man don't don't even don't even do that to me hey man you don't have to answer it like but I would love the competition you know that's what that's what it's all about I know the NBA years ago tried to get and put a lot of money up for for the best to do it and you know that would be you know prime Vince would want all the smoke with everybody because like it's just gonna bring the best out of me and Mac would you have to prepare differently no one you're going against the goat dunker Vince Carter I might have to start two years in advance just thinking and you didn't just dunk by the way there was the rising stars game which was fun did you did you enjoy that what was a memory that you took out of that game yeah I mean it was a good we won I know it's an exhibition game it's a rising stars but I don't know I can't get on the floor and not compete that's just that's just me so just have the G-league guys win I mean that meant some to me and you know I thought you know I played well and my teammates played well so it was a lot of fun oh yeah no you guys weren't playing which was it was actually quite fun to watch what's what's going on basketball future wise like do you have plans you have goals like where are you right now I know you're in Osceola what happens next right I think for me it's just to keep flying pressure I feel like my whole life that's that's what I've done to plot pressure keep showing taking any excuses away that's that's what I try to do every year and if I'm in Osceola then I'm gonna try to win a championship with Osceola that's that's really it but it's all God's timing and I'm gonna keep flying pressure I'm not gonna quit love that Mac and after watching the rising stars game and you belong in the NBA is you're not just a dunker man you're a hooper so keep working hard so you want to see you in the NBA and we damn sure want to see you back again for the three Pete damn right hey I want to say something to that Mac you know like for me the dunk contest open open the door and gave me the opportunity and I like what you're saying is like it wherever I am right now I'm gonna do my best and continue to take advantage of this opportunity you're in the dunk contest you're getting to show your skill you know obviously in your athleticism but yes in the rising stars you guys really came out and played hard that's how you open doors and that's how you get that opportunity because there's some team moving forward that's gonna need guys and that was a platform where everybody got to see your skill so I think keep taking advantage of these opportunities I appreciate it guys it's been a pleasure man we appreciate the time congrats again hope to see you in San Francisco next All-Star Week and Vince don't go anywhere you're sticking around we'll have more running back after this