 Right, let's get this going. I've got my little book because last time I used my phone to do the questions And it kept locking so you could see me at the at the edge of the camera just sort of trying to unlock it with my finger All right Exactly see that's the problem with the show, you know, I try and make it as professional as possible But it never is because it's me on me Larry with me little camera, right? Actually, I should angle that down. We're all just look tiny in comparison to the Dalek boy in the back That's true, I'll try and frame it up nice Right It's come on Colin you got a people a bit more professional than that. Hey, well, he's a bit camera shy maybe Right Here we are. We are at the Dobson residence. I've been very kindly invited down By your lovely self. Thank you. It's it's a very lovely place. I don't know why I've been invited though There's nothing doctor who here. No, we kind of play it down in the household really There's very few links or references in the house. Yeah, I mean, it's nice. It's It's fine. It's fine. Oh my sieve not my sieve So I'm sure a lot of people already know the lovely Dobson family including Hello, what's your name? Oh He bit shy come over here Are you a bit shy? It's a bit with strange shoving this in your face Met and lovely Megan Shirley was a bit nervous too But this is of course the lovely Rory who's hidden himself away And it's very nice for you to let me come and play today. Do you like playing with Colin? You can eat your pan of chocolate Well, we'll come back little man. It's okay. Don't you worry So first question where did the duck? Where did we were talking about this early? But where did the Dalek come from? He was one of those Decisions on eBay quite late at night where you go. That sounds like a good idea It was ready for our wedding. We were gonna get She do My wife and I were getting married and we thought there should be something to sort of represent us both There my wife's not necessarily a doctor who fan it's more sort of I was who is off-screen. I should mention just Through Stockholm syndrome really that she's kind of gone along with this but we we looked and we looked to hire one and we looked at the price of that and We took a deep breath and went maybe not and then we saw one on eBay and we bid for it and They're in the classroom on the giant screen in the classroom because I told the kids that this bid was coming through it about midday and I'm got a chance for it. And as it ticked away, I was going. Oh, oh it looks like and then of course it did and the children all found this hilarious and then we suddenly realized the logistics of Getting a Dalek from where it'd been bought back to our house. Where was that? Fortunately, it was only about three miles up the road from us Which was more good luck than anything else So I put out a shout out on Facebook to friends saying anyone got a car with a boot roughly the size of a Dalek and Everybody just responded going you've bought a Dalek, haven't you? Everybody already just knew. Oh, yeah. I mean it did this was inevitable at some point in my life that The tipping point for it. And so yeah, we got him we got him back in pieces And then put him together and fortunately we had a driveway down the side of the house at the time So we could get him into the house through the big double doors and then we built an extension and he's entombed here now Yeah, it's like tomb of the Cybermen now. It's just one day. He'll be uncovered. He will. Oh There goes the Dalek costume. It's blown over in the wind See this is a new thing now because this is the first one I've done outside, which brings whole new issues So once again the non-professional side of the show is showing off, which is great So next question why why this Dalek in particular why this model or was that just sort of luck? Barley was luck Barley also. I'm of that generation where I'm an old-school fan So the the black and silver one as a kid watching it and as a teenager In Sylvester McCoy's era. I absolutely adored it I'd kind of got a bit like all teenagers. I kind of got a bit embarrassed by Doctor Who Time in your life. There is and so Being a doctor who fan during Colin Baker's second season and Sylvester McCoy's first was tricky You kind of became a little bit you played it down at school You know, you don't play doctor in distress in the car Not not not not not loudly not loudly yourself. Yeah, absolutely, but no, so I kind of kept quiet about it and then McCoy's Dalek story arrived on screen and all of a sudden kids of school were going You know about Doctor Who don't you? What's going on in it? You saw Ace hitting that Dalek was great That's right. Yeah, and so those people started asking me about it So this one's got kind of a sentimental attachment to it as well because he's the cool one Yeah, I fit personally I think for my generation of fans stopped us feeling embarrassed about it We should never have been embarrassed about it in the first place I've come back to McCoy's first season. Thanks to that Blu-ray set recently. Oh, absolutely adored it It's ridiculous and it's fun, but it's fun. And I think Doctor Who The biggest crime Doctor Who or any show can have is being a bit boring or not being fun Yeah, it could be serious. It could be worthy. It could be science fiction But to me it should be a bit of a laugh a bit fun Oh, absolutely. Yeah, and go back to the that cool thing. It must have been strange because I'm Not to be rude. I'm a younger fan But so I grew up with the revival series So it must have been strange for it to come back and suddenly be quite cool again and be as big as it was It was very odd Kids at school because I'm a primary school teacher. So children at school had always sort of known as a Doctor Who fan Um, it'd be a bit A seagull is trying to gatecrush the interview on top of that. It's one of the drawbacks of filming outside on the coast Yeah, we'll use our brollies in a minute as well, I think um, so yeah, um Being a primary school teacher the kids knew that I was a doctor who found a big Dalek on the desk or to be references every so Often and they'd say oh my granny used to watch that show and things like that which would age me horribly and then then he came back and What was lovely with that was watching it through children's eyes And I think one of the things that Russell T. Davis did so well was to reintroduce the show as a new show It didn't pandered to fans. I loved McGann's pilot Yeah, it's a strange. It's a strange watch, but it is fun when I watched it with Laura who had not watched any Doctor Who before McGann comes up and he does a voice over at the start saying it was on the planet Gallifrey that my old enemy the master and Blah blah blah blah blah and Laura's getting sorry. Can we just stop that? Can we rewind that? Can you just explain who's the master? What's Gallifrey? What's Scarow and what are squeaky things? Yet their Daleks you don't see them and you don't those voices in that TV movie as well a peculiar and they they are I know I never feel quite so embarrassed being in there and making ridiculous noises every so often because they still sound more screen accurate But I think it was a rights issue as well. Wasn't it like Terry Nation was like no, you don't I don't know I the seagull claims that he was out of the Production office that day when they were recording them I know I think that's probably just an excuse Yeah But so What I think Russell T Davies got just right was that thing of introducing it to a new generation Setting it in a very recognizable Set setting for the kids It wasn't in Edwardian England or any of those sorts things that if I'd been bringing it back That's exactly what I'd have done. I'd have had it this this Edwardian adventure and it's sort of strange library or something like that Almost actually like they did with Capaldi's third season Professor and discovering it that way, but that's not as relatable for small children So what I got the next day after Rose had been broadcast the next Monday morning kids just bursting in school wanting to talk about it Really and being terrified of wheelie bins. Oh because of Mick. Yeah Not not because now Clark was in it It was much more because no Clark is terrifying absolutely But much more because it's suddenly taken something ordinary and made it extraordinary And that's what the show I think always does at its best. Yeah, if it's a shop window dummies, whether it's Nurses turning into zygons where it's whatever it might be. It's taking the ordinary and making it something Spooky and that's I think the success of things like the Daleks when when when the show first You know when when that was first broadcast in what December 63 All of a sudden my mum remember my mum remembers this because her birthday is on the 23rd of November. Oh really? It's meant to be Unfortunately, anyway, I remember my mum's birthday Yeah, I'll cut that out She's aware of this. Oh good But you had kids already going around in the playground picking up, you know Sting plungers and whisks and things like that and sticking their arms in front of him and saying they're a Dalek And it's that easily Imitate it. Yeah, that allows children to play and if you watch all of that first run of Russell T. Davis stuff kids could imitate all of that There's the stomping of the side men's feet and so on. That's right They wouldn't necessarily have a fanciest costume But the movements of it would be there and the ideas would be there and when later on you get someone like well for example firing a painful That's a Dalek sigh Which Rory was watching yesterday because Rory loves old Jack's boat Which is if you've not ever seen old Jack's boats and don't look puzzled at me on this it's gone marfarin it It's gots wealth in it and it's written by Russell T. Davis How have I only just found okay? I know I'm googling when I get home CBBC on the iPlayer old Jack's boat watch it. It's brilliant It's a series of stories with Bernard Cribbins as an old man Going on to his boat reminiscing about these these strange things that have happened to him As old Jack Russell T. Davis kind of wrote it partly thinking that this could be another doctor who's lost his memory Will so it's will for the doctor will for the doctor and Martha runs a tea shop. No, of course, because he's freemas in it, you know, and and half a cast our doctor who cast That's so weird. I Need this I need it in my life. If you get a chance It's not on the iPlayer at the moment But the Christmas one the Christmas quest is called which is very Russell T. Davis. Yeah, it's heartbreaking I genuinely genuinely it's it's up there with things like the Railway children and daddy my daddy and Mr. Tom where he comes down on the bicycle and goes I can ride that this is there's a punchline to that story That is just heartbreaking and it's on CBBC CBBs. Oh CBBs. Oh, yeah Ah, it's brilliant Well, there we go Now we can say that doctor who has crossed everything because that's CBBC with Sarah Jane BBC with torchwood and doctor who now It's a CBBs with what was it? Jack's boat old Jack's old Jack's boat Yes, so when I told Roy that Jack was coming today He got a little bit more excited was a little disappointed at your age and your lack of Bernard Cribbins Sorry, I'll try to be Bernard Cribbins next time. I promise. We all try to be Bernard Cribbins. We do we do right So this is a question for you little Rory, so they don't have to watch don't worry about answering but You're hiding so you can't see this so hey Rory could I ask you a question? Why do you like dressing like the Dalek is it super fun? He's doing this for reference, which is okay. It's okay He's only he's only a month off being free so when when you see the photos of Rory and his outfits They are on for about 30 seconds at a time If you were For poor patrol the community show right now He would be on your lap talking about every dog going in poor patrol. Well, yeah as somebody works in a nursery poor patrol I'm very knowledgeable in just I haven't watched a single episode, but I know everything about Jason Marshall and Rocky and He's other cosplay favorite for a little while was Dillis price from fireman Sam He'd have a knotted handkerchief on his head and just go no man very loudly Now that see that's what I need. I need to make fireman sound the community show and then we'll do it that way right so I This was another one for Rory, but I'll skip that for now We will So I feel like mentioning and I'm gonna be careful with how I say it it about the true fan incident Ah, I feel like I need to bring it up because that's how a lot of people came to sort of Know your your these posts. So now we're a long way away from that whole fiasco Sort of what was your initial reaction to it? It was his vague amusement actually cuz it's the sort of thing that if Twitter had been around when I was a teenager I fear I would have probably felt the same. I might not have articulated it But I probably felt the same way Because some people take the show very very seriously and the problem with a show that's been going for close to 60 years Now is that for every generation? Joining the show it means something different to them Yeah, if you join the show in the early 80s and the next fan generation after me work Where it's proper science fiction and you know, and it's not been the same since You know a Christopher Bidmead and the others left, you know, it's a fast now in a pantomime, etc. Etc. Um, they had naturally embarrassed by it. Um, I thought it was unnecessary to Contact me personally about it. I thought that was There are for everybody who but you have to remember that if you work on a third's principle with Twitter or with anything actually in life They're further people quite like what you do a further people will be indifferent and a further people might actively dislike you for what you're doing Yeah, and so if you work on a third's principle and you get any more than a third liking what you're doing great So over the years and in the jobs I've done and I worked in retail. So you get feedback in retail. Yeah Retail is like it's a step. I feel like everyone should do retail at some point just to see the worst I think you know like like people used to have to go to the Army or the Navy or the Air Force for a year I think if everybody worked in retail that have a little bit more respect For the work that people in shops do because it's the hardest job I've ever done And you'd always get negative feedback about stuff and in most of the time It wasn't your fault. So when you get something like this Which is criticizing at the time and 18 months two year old for holding a plunger and I wouldn't mind But it wasn't even a plunger. It was I it was our toilet brush, which my wife's still not forgiven me for and and a whisk But what did surprise me and what Delighted me and baffled me really was that I posted this up at about half seven in the morning in the in my staff car park Before before my days work and I don't I don't You're trying to give him a cuddle There we go trying to exterminate you. Oh fair enough. You got me Are you going to you're gonna use your single plunger and whisk on Jack You nearly got me you nearly got me Rory. Oh Bless him he's adorable There are times Fortunately, yeah, there are times where he is a toddler and even the Daleks retreats I've seen our Colin. Just take a few steps back every Back this is unwise So no going going back to the the Twitter Ridiculousness really I posted this up in the morning just thinking that the five or six people who often comment on these things would go Oh, yeah, that is a bit silly, isn't it what I didn't expect was when I checked it about five o'clock that afternoon And not only had I got quite a few comments underneath it from Neil Gaiman and Mallory Blackman and all these people that I admire Yeah, both of us as writers, but as human beings as well and the things that they they say and do But I've got these comments from DMs from the Metro and They were they were a surprising number of articles and why I What I was really delighted to be all focused on was what it was really all about which is the huge and overwhelming positivity of Doctor Who fans so we had one one comment That I posted up and from that we got something like four and a half million Impressions on that that that tweet which for a little account like mine, which had a sort of a couple of hundred followers after which in relatives And friends who are humoring me. Um, it was absolutely astonishing I didn't went on for days afterwards as well and Mountain Warehouse sent us a pair of wellies and hardware shopping leads sent us a sink plunger And I kind of like that level of sponsorship It's not like character options sending us all the toys and him having to be forced to open them and go what a surprise Which is some children doing that's delightful This was very very much more domestic. We need it. It's so specific. You couldn't do this again No, no, no, and that's the thing is capturing lightning in a bottle and So we just continue with the account as it is and on days where he is Wanting to wear a costume or like with the Cyberman helmet where I had my my screen accurate It's it's not a toy. It's a prop Cyberman helmet which my wife very kindly bought for me for my birthday It is good I'll get a picture up of it because I can it's staring me out from the table We actually had thought it's just as much joy making Rory's one out of a carbon box A cake box we got to eat the cake and then he got to have a Cyberman helmet So I'm wondering what the best of the options are you either get the Cyberman helmet or you eat the cake Which was the better one? I'll be honest the cake was fabulous There we go. I'm good to your marks and Spencers if they want to send us any more There we go. We figured out the reason I've been invited is to get more sponsors I'm gonna reach for my phone because it fell down at some point there we go So I've got a few pictures downloaded because I was I was scrolling through your Twitter Just sort of ahead of the interview because there is a lot there you post quite a lot these days Which is great So I've got a few and I just love to hear the story behind it essentially I will flash them up again on screen So first of all this one caught my eye. Oh, yes, that was he was about a week old at that point It's the one way he's changing the nappy for reference. Yes. Good old Colin. Yeah, so That was that was almost pre-twitter for us. So I've kind of retrospectively posted that one up there And yes, that was more to my mum and Laura's mum were so worried, you know, how will we cope? I ducked out the first week of Rory's time at home by getting bronchial pneumonia and And really just to get the attention back on me more than anything and and so that So my mum was like, oh, are you all coping? Are you all fine? So I did that photo when yeah, we've got we've got spare pair of hands Let it you know lending that was just sent to a relative. That was sent to my mum and to Laura's mum at the time Was oh Right. Yes. I mean my my in-laws. I've kind of Accepted Colin now, but it was it was for the family of the family But prior to the wedding when we were talking about getting Colin to the wedding and we're saying we're gonna need a we can I need to get him. He's quite big. He's bigger than we thought he was and my father-in-law hadn't quite tweaked that We were talking about the Dalek. So he was going oh Colin's quite quite quite a large gentleman and clearly I don't think I've met it Can't say that that's a rude and we start talking curious Colin Then we started talking about sort of the need for disabled access to get him up the ramps and stuff like that Okay, so he's easy. Yeah, okay, so he's picturing this. This is an almost man When I said we were then hiring a lorry to get him in in the back of to bring him Point beforehand. Did you mention it was a time? No? No, I mean he was aware of this prop was arriving at some point But I hadn't made the connection with Colin because we just talked about as part of the family He'd been with us for a couple of weeks already. So yeah That then featured quite heavily in my my father-in-law's wedding speech story about Colin And I suppose on on the same topic. Oh, I'd scroll back to something completely different No, I don't save it in the end idea I thought I was going to save the one of the of the dance The bit of my favorite thing the one of you dancing with the Dalek, which is my favorite thing Do you want to come and join us? There is a space where Rory was going to be that is I'm probably just going to put a picture of Rory It just it just made me giggle because I mean, I you know I scroll through the feed every once in a while and I'm going through and the first thing I'm like Oh, I should check in the feed see what's that the first thing I see is you like So how'd that go? Well, it was terrifying at first because I genuinely thought that my friends had wheeled the Dalek onto the Dance floor and Andy would be really angry about it But as it was it turned out he was inside and I thought well, why not just go with it. It was great It was my wedding. Why not? And the picture that came out were pretty great They are some of my favorite things and again like my gem. I love it a piece and she loves me I've got her into the show much like her the pair of you have but all right, but I've said to her so Can we can we for the wedding? You know in the future and she's just like no It's like how dare you I know if I know a friend in Worthing who has one I can say just just drop us a line on the date and the venue and we're just willing pass Just that that vital moments if you've got windows behind you gem plug your ears. I'm making plans I love how there's just a massive gap here I suppose I could just use it. Yeah, I'll just put a picture of Rory there just in spirit This one I'd love to mention that was that was brilliant that was that Millie Millie I'd come across Millie through both through Twitter and through that rather lovely article in Doctor Who magazine a couple months back and Rory had been flicking through that one he picks up my magazine every so often goes why is Colin in here? And why am I in here and it turns out once he picked up Laura really was in there I mean, it's I think for our first wedding anniversary. I'd set the picture of Laura and Colin dancing and that that appeared and then one of him Had appeared and then one where Colin's gone rogue and gone solo Reading magazine a couple of months back anyway, Rory was flicking through it. I'm just Oh, thank you. What's this cup of tea? Oh, thank you so much darling. Oh, he's lovely. He's being extra nice the second I leave or the second the camera goes off He's gonna be like, I want to play. Yeah, absolutely. All right, when he's gonna be he's gonna pour his Oh, I see it's nothing in there yet. Do you want to come and pour me some tea? I feel foolish now. How did I not know this was an imaginary empty cup of tea? Oh, thank you my dear. Is this drinking water? Cheers darling. It sometimes does get scooped. I was making sure it wasn't a puddle I'd love some as well. Come around here then. Come around the other way. Oh, don't worry. You won't trip on it Come around. That's it. You sit there for me I'll have a cup. Thank you Thank you very much. Are you having a cup as well? Oh, thank you for watching my shoes as well. Oh good Hey, Rory, nice of you to join us. Oh, where's my sieve? Hold on. You're wearing yours There we go. Daleks United. We're gonna take over the world, aren't we Rory? It's one of a very few times that I'm not the one that looks ridiculous. It's brilliant. Yeah, that's what I'm here for Ha ha ha What else have I got saved on here for you? But yeah, no, I'm really The quality of it is very good. I'm absolutely blown away by it. So yeah, Rory had been looking for the magazine. Absolutely loved them You've seen that haven't you Rory? Who's there? Is that you? It's you. And then yes, um, Millie had been posting on Twitter sort of going oh, watch my next one being she'd done a gorgeous Japanese Dalek from the um There you go. Do you want to look at it? Am I gonna hold it? We know who has that now, don't we? Oh, who has it? My my sister has sir My sister turns out lives about two miles from Millie in New Zealand. I mean, I knew my sister lived in New Zealand. This wasn't But um, what a coincidence. Yes, it was rather lovely. So so Millie had posted this up Getting attacked by the seeds of death behind you absolutely utterly to our surprise because I'd I'd posted up flippantly Oh, you've got all these different ones and you know where's where's the Rory Dalek and She then crafted that and the detail and you can't I think the photos I think are gorgeous Your own cup you've got yours here, haven't you? Is this your one? With a saucer would you like a cup of tea? There's your cup of tea It is you have to be very careful with hot water, don't you? You try have take a sip How is it is it delicious? You know, they say never work with children or animals, but it's going pretty well so far Some squash yes, you've got some squash here, haven't you? There you go You're very well good manners My lot don't know manners at the nursery. They're just like give me food We like now you've got to say please and thank you telling me wait till the camera's turned off Fair enough. There was just this inherent no like they know somehow that they're This was my also my favorite that I needed to bring out So what's the story there? That that's that's actually a screenshot from a Christmas video. We We unfortunately Just in the run up to Christmas this year like a lot of families. We were hit by covid and My Rory got it first. My wife got it and I got it and oh, you all got it. Oh, yeah And and and it it wasn't fun I'd talked earlier about having bronchial pneumonia and I'd argued it's wasn't as much fun as that That wasn't fun. So, but we're very lucky that we made a good recovery just before Christmas and I thought oh We'll do a little video then for a sort of friends and family of him. So I like your help if yours is more accurate because it's the same color as Colin, isn't it? Do you know the words saying sitting my mouth? Yeah See without the context of the Dalek costume, it does look like you're a chef Getting ready for a meal. We have your chef's hat somewhere, don't we? Yes, you can whisk something up for us, can't you? So no going back to that photo that was uh, That was Rory and I one morning thinking oh, we'll make a little pop video for uh, I want to spend my Christmas with a Dalek And then we realized that we couldn't actually get Colin out of the conservatory. So Strategically, there's a shot in it for anyone who's watched the video and it's on on my Twitter feed somewhere Down there of him in the lounge and that's only his top bit He's done personal behind the scenes secrets personal pile of books with a camera angle like that And then of course for Rory, they went we should take him up to up to the bedroom daddy So I as one would say he did the filming of that little bit So really if you had the version without the the music on it, you just hear him giggling Yeah, he had to go at filming me as a cyber man the other day, didn't you? Which I'll I'll send you the clip for so you can you can play it on this. It's not been seen anywhere else So you can have an exclusive exclusive. Yeah Which is as ridiculous as it sounds because I was basically trying to show him Okay, no What you need to do is stand behind there and then move to here and And so he was filming that and then when it came to putting it on him It lasted about two seconds because we were trying to be screen accurate with even gone to the location of silver nemesis For that one Because that tower in the background is the one that was used that's brilliant This whole area is full of and we've got the the pub from the Tower of the Zygons Up near chichester. I don't get any of that. We're around where I am. No, we've got that. I've got any quarries We've also got a secret Nazi villa on the seafront here in werving Which was used in silver nemesis I thought you're just going to stop there. No, no, no, I mean we might have secret maps I'm telling you it is it is a home for retired people, but most of them went to south america. So I think we're probably okay As rory just eats his cheerios They looked There is still space. It might be the the um film duration length. Yeah It's a file size. It's got too big. Yeah, you see. I don't know that. I don't often record for this long No, this is great. Hi rory joining us on the sofa Oh, bless I must start with calling you directly by name and get that seems to to catch you out Want to be remain anonymous, don't you? Because we're all wearing sort of team colors with the jeans here Yes, I'm glad you got the memo. Oh good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There is a dress code for the dobson household I keep forgetting what's behind me and then I like turn and I see a plunger or a whisk and I panic Now here's okay before before it does actually fill up. I will ask Can I get in it? Of course? Yes It is a toy not a screen Yeah, because some people do that don't they they just they keep it on a shelf and they like can't touch that To be fair my cyberman helmet is one of those which is why we had to build his Well, you do have to unscrew to get in from what I've seen. Yes, and it is Hideously claustrophobic the idea of just having the back screwed in also you've got to trust your wife And I do wholeheartedly, but there's a bold thing to start saying there will be moments where she'll just go No, I'm going to leave him in there And then I'd have to go to the shops and Or worse go to school teaching I mean it would make for an interesting lesson today. We are excellent Absolutely. That'd be good for marking just everyone's excellent. Yes I I I very disappointed they don't have a little stamp Like it would save me hours of marking if I could just put in this and it had a little cyberman hat Someone get on that. I'm sure someone watching can do stamps. Yeah, maybe that's a specific niche Right. I am itching. I'd have excellent and delete That I've got to do it