 Coming up on DTNS NASA helps push development of 3d printed organs a potential end to all cookie consent pop-ups And should tic-tac get into TV This is the Daily Tech news for Friday June 18th 2021 in Los Angeles, I'm Tom Merritt and from studio Redwood I'm Sarah Lane I'm the show's produce on the top tech stories from Cleveland. I'm Len Peralta And step you over Len. I'm the show's producer Roger Chang Joining us today best-selling author and co-host of the AI effect and Sirius XM show the feed amber back is back welcome back amber Hey guys, it's so nice to see you. It's been way too long. I know I know we were just having a good conversation about plant identification apps Among many other things if you want that wider conversation get our expanded show good day internet become a member at patreon.com slash DTNS let's start with a few tech things you should know Reuters reports at seeing an official notice from police in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh Summoning Twitter India head Manish Maheshwari to answer allegations that Twitter failed to stop the spread of a violent video of Several reportedly Hindu men attacking a reportedly Muslim man India's federal government is currently in a bit of a battle with Twitter over its non-compliance with new IT rules That became effective in late May Spotify acquired the podcast discovery service pods with a Z POD Z the startup offers an audio news feed of Podcasts presenting 60-second clips from various shows using machine learning to give potential listeners a taste of a podcast's Vibe before they subscribe on Wednesday Spotify debuted green room. It's live audio clubhouse rivals So lots of lots of new stuff coming as Spotify a Joint operation from law enforcement agencies in Ukraine South Korea and the United States has resulted in the arrests of six suspects Believed to be involved in the clop ransomware gang The suspects are accused of running a double extortion scheme where victims are threatened with leak of data that's stolen from their networks Prior to their files being encrypted if they don't pay at first Ukraine's cyber police department of the national police confirms It searched 21 residences in the capital Kiev and nearby regions also seized equipment and cash said to be behind Total financial damages of about 500 million dollars news agency Jinwa reports that the industrial and commercial Bank of China or ICBC and the agricultural Bank of China or ABC Now let's customers exchange the country's new central bank digital currency For fiat currency at more than 3,000 ATMs in Beijing ICBC is reportedly the country's first bank to add full support for withdrawals and deposits of the digital yuan known as DCEP CBDC is a state-controlled digital equivalent of physical currency But the DCP is programmable money and not based on a blockchain a lot of acronyms there One thousand two hundred sixty-three cyber security professionals from the US the UK Spain Germany France United Arab Emirates and Singapore took part in the cyber reason global ransomware study to measure impact on businesses Following a ransomware attack the study found that 66% of businesses reported loss of revenue 53% reported damage to the brand 29% had unplanned workforce reductions and 25% resulted in closure of the business altogether Cyber reason study also found that 80% of organizations that did pay the ransoms got hit with Subsequent ransomware attacks and about half of those subsequent attacks were by the same actors All right, let's talk a little more about some of these stories starting Sarah. Tell us what xda found xda developers found code in the latest Google Play services beta SDK that Indicates Google's developing a find my device network using play services to code strings Describe the service called find my device network with the description allows your phone to help locate you and other people's devices You are another people's devices. It's just an APK reference So it doesn't guarantee it's ever going to be released Just that Google has at least made a placeholder title and written a description for it Google also has a find my device app in the play store But it only finds devices that are signed into your Google account So this would be taking it some step further But xda points out that there are more than three billion devices running Android the majority of which are phones Meaning Google's find my network has the potential to be quite comprehensive. Should it roll out? Yeah, I think this is a no-brainer For Google to do it's a little harder to go for Google to do because they don't control the entire ecosystem like Apple But but Amber would you be excited about something like this coming to your phone? Yeah, absolutely our whole family are Android users. So I love this idea I especially love that you don't have to be signed into your Google service For example, my son's not a big Google services user, but he does have an Android device So I see how this makes sense in the larger context in terms of making it easier to be able to find your devices So to be honest with you when I read this, I kind of think I'm surprised they haven't developed this already, right? You know, it seems like something that we would have had before 2021 and I know a lot of Android users will absolutely love it Yeah, I look at the Apple ecosystem and I realized that they could put it in because they're like We know we have the chip and every phone that we have out there has the chip now So it's easy to implement whereas Google has to have some more checks and balances to be like well Wait a minute. This one doesn't maybe have the whole hardware. So how do we message that? How do we handle that? Yeah, I mean I know in just the article to a lot of people are just want to make sure that you can opt out of it, right? Because as soon as we talk about tracking anything, there's obviously privacy concerns that go along with it So I think that's another consideration is just hopefully, you know, you can opt out easily and Not have to worry about being opted in by default Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right The research firm Nielsen announced a new streaming TV metric called the gauge that monitors a willing participants router To determine exactly what they're streaming. So what did it find in May? 2021 US viewers spent 26% of TV viewing time on streaming services That is up from 14% a couple of years ago in 2019 It was up from 20% last year even in the midst of lockdown Nielsen estimates that will rise to 33% by the end of 2021 Netflix and YouTube were the top streamers out of all of that each getting about 6% of TV viewing with all the other streamers at 3% or less even Disney Plus only had 1% This would seem to indicate that it's not too late for a new entrant into the streaming game You still got a lot of eyeballs that have yet to move over, but it does look like they're moving over So enter tiktok tiktok. Yes. Yes I just said tiktok protocol notes that tiktok has been experimenting with smart TV platforms The first app was more on tiktok that came out for Amazon's fire TVs a year ago Just had curated popular videos though in December tiktok launched an app for Samsung smart TVs followed by an Android TV app in February Those apps are available in select European countries. They still have the curated collections But they also let you log in and see your personal feeds Others have walked this trail of going from social mobile to TV before not all of them successes May I remind you of quibi? Though its videos have done surprisingly well for Roku from May 20th to June 3rd more Roku accounts streamed former quibi A content that quibi got in its entire existence Two apps that are still there Twitter and Facebook. They both have smart TV apps for multiple platforms But I don't think anybody considers them wild successes. There's also the success story though YouTube More than 120 million people watched YouTube on a TV in the US in December So Amber you're gonna watch some tiktok on your TV I am a pretty skeptical of the future of this to be honest with you So if I think about how people watch tiktok It's such a personal experience right and and also there's so much involved in terms of kind of swiping to the next video And it's very intimate and something you do kind of on your own and in a space where you know Just sit back and relax and grab some popcorn and watch tiktok videos So to me it just feels like again This is a play to try to take something that's incredibly popular and make it make sense on a smart TV But I just don't see it actually being something that really has legs I feel as though tiktok is just a really good mobile experience and I just cannot imagine it going really beyond that You know, it's funny about that amber. I have a friend who sends me tiktok videos It's like the way that we text each now is just like here's one You'll like and there's almost no other conversation happening But I had mentioned to him something about like I don't know that like Make sure you watch this one on your computer not your phone something like that He was like, what do you mean? He did not realize that there was a desktop version of tiktok You are you log in and your accounts the same and sure they're you know, maybe a slightly different experience But I'm like, oh, yeah, I never watched any tiktoks on my phone, you know, because I'm sitting at my computer Anyway, it's it's an easier way for me to lose an hour or two So I feel like I might be the target market for the TV I don't know. Yeah, how much that would be a group activity, right? Because your for you page is you got to log in it's all it's all about your account So would you really do that in a group scenario with a bunch of people around the TV? I don't know maybe but I also thought that the you know quibi quibi failure as as its own platform But the content sort of living on on Roku is a great example of you know Quibi should have just been a Content arm of Roku to begin with you know build something where there's a lot of great original content Within a platform that's that exists and is thriving. That's how you get people to watch everything instead of having to die first Yeah, I also think too. There's a physicality again If I go back to the whole tiktok experience that you don't get with some of these other services like quibi I mean quibi when it launched it did have sort of longer series. I mean long in the mobile sense So I do think it makes sense within Roku But again, I still wonder about that physicality of tiktok and how you you want it kind of close So I just I would not bet on this one I think especially with the next generation and also, you know, do they even have smart TVs in their homes or in their bedrooms? It's not something that is all that common Yeah, I I wouldn't say it's impossible for something from tiktok to be popular on TV Because tiktok is so wide-ranging everybody's tiktok experience is different, you know I I think of tiktok in regards to like funny Korean videos and food whereas other people think of it as travel and other people think of it as skateboard videos and It's all different. So there there could be a niche Where that works? I have no idea what that niche is and I'm not guaranteeing it But that's the only that's the only thing that might make it worth the bet of like Hey, let's try this and see if it catches on but it's not something where I can look at it and go Oh, yeah, obviously that's that's something that's going to work because it does seem like it really is just built for a direct interactive experience With people even wanting to use the camera to respond and you don't have a camera usually on your TV That's true. It'll be interesting to see Yeah what the evolution of tiktok is to support the larger format experiences because it wasn't that many years ago that I Felt the same way about YouTube like I'm not even even if you could you know I could maybe airplay a YouTube video to my TV. It's like, yeah, what's the point? You know, it's YouTube. It's different It's not like long form content that I use my TV for and now anything that's more than a couple of minutes Yeah, I watch on my TV. I don't watch it on my computer Well, you some people have the choice some people don't but but but it it really depends on you know What is tiktok offering me if it's some longer form content and yeah a little bit less of like? Oh, you know a trendy dance meme and more of a reoccurring Series of sorts then yeah, I might want to absorb it the way I absorb lots of other episodic content Before we proceed, sir, I need you to accept these cookies Fine fine cuz I want to read the rest of the article geez stop bugging me You're tired of being asked about cookies when you go pretty much anywhere That's a publication of some kind on the internet Well, the privacy oriented groups sustainable computing lab and none of your business That's actually the name of the group have proposed a new HTTP Standard that would respect privacy settings set inside the browser and then communicate those preferences to every website Extensions like consent omatic Tom was singing its praisers to me earlier today Already try to do this now and they do fairly well But a standard could make it work smoothly for everybody The proposed standard is called advanced data protection control Offers two methods of communication privacy preferences one would have a server hosting a JSON file Referenced in the HTTP headers of a site The other would use JavaScript in the website to pass an object to the Dom interface Do M but either way privacy preferences stored in the browser are sent as a list of what you do and what you don't consent to The server version is more efficient But it requires modifications to the web server while the JavaScript version is easier for websites to implement Users would still be able to set preferences by site if they want But this could be a more consistent a less fatiguing way of managing those preferences, I love this idea because It's it I feel like my experience is different and I go to lots of oh you've never been here before websites Just kind of how the internet works and I often I Know that I'm clicking yes too easily because I do have fatigue about it Yeah, yeah, I was just gonna say it's really interesting I hosted an event recently that was with a bunch of senior brand managers and marketers about our cookie-less future And it was fascinating to see how that group of executives is trying to navigate this future Where perhaps we don't have cookies at all and one of the things that they said which I thought was fascinating Is that when it comes to customers and cookies what happens with cookies is that it actually leads to an Erosion of trust when people are shopping because they feel as though they're being spied on even though they don't really articulate it And so what's happening in the consumer world, especially in retail or e-commerce is one example is now They have to rebuild trust that has been lost through some of these experiences that have helped them do a lot But it's kind of a lazy approach to Targeting people so I thought it was just neat to think about the effect that this has on Advertising and marketing in general and how significant it's going to be Yeah, it this kind of thing should it catch on could just drive cookies away I think that's a really interesting point It could could mean that marketers realize that That's just not the way to do this because I use Consent-O-Matic as as Sarah mentioned earlier and I forget I have it on until I use a browser on another machine Or I use a browser that I haven't installed it on because I've got so many different kinds of browsers And I and then I see like oh my gosh This is what it's like for if you're not using this because what Consent-O-Matic does is it it takes your preferences And it attempts to try to automatically answer when you load a site It works more than 90% of the time to the point that you don't even know it's there It's just automatically going no no no no just just the stuff you need And and it's it's like how do you live like this when I go to another browser because it's like oh I have to acknowledge okay, and that usually happens to be on mobile if that became default in the browsers granted You have to have the websites playing along with this. It would be a better experience for everybody I think it would be a better experience on the web rather than having to manage all those pop-ups and everything But it would probably mean the end of cookies. I hadn't even thought about that. Yeah, yeah And you know our cooculus future again, I think it means that advertisers and marketers need to work that much harder to be able to figure out how to build relationships and I just think also the next generation of consumers is much more tech-savvy in terms of their privacy So there's just a bunch of things happening. It's almost like a perfect storm where you will see Perhaps like you say a cooculus future in the months or years ahead and and I don't think that's such a bad thing Yeah, we've gone from a world where we're like Why doesn't anyone care about their privacy to people almost caring too much about their privacy? Which I think is preferable to be honest. Oh, yeah Yeah, another person asked me said they they think everything's listening to them because they're getting served up ads It's kind of a daily occurrence. I'm sure you guys get it to you. Yeah. Yeah Well, all next week will be accessibility week Don't forget each day we're featuring a guest that will come on to talk about accessibility and technology from testing products to developing UIs starting on Monday June 21st. Don't miss it. Tell your friends daily tech news show dot com During a video conference interview at Viva tech in Paris Apple CEO Tim Cook talked about a range of topics They address taxes data privacy climate change the things you probably already hear Apple talk about in all different sorts of places But Cook also mentioned that Apple often develops products and then decides not to release them Let's actually hear an expert of what he said. I Failed daily at something And yes, we do we do allow ourselves to fail we try to fail Internally instead of externally because we don't want to involve customers in the failure but but we develop things and Subsequently decide not to ship We we begin going down a certain road and sometimes adjust significantly because of the discovery that we make in that process and so absolutely failing is a part of life and It's a part of whether whether you're a new company a startup Or you're a company that's been around for a while, and you're trying different things If you're not failing you're not trying enough different things You should get that whole interview over at brute BRUT that's that's the French publication that was doing the interview But I found it interesting the part about failing I feel like yeah I've heard that from tech executives before but the part about developing things and then just being like now We're not gonna ship it. I think that's interesting Do you think? That Apple's mindset I'm not doubting that that's their mindset ends up with them having fewer failures in public or Or do you think that? Whatever they're saying they do you see just as many glitches and and things with with Apple products out there as you do with anything else I'll be honest with you when I first read this article My first reaction was sort of that this is a position of privilege, right? I would also like to just constantly fail in my private life But unfortunately I have to go out and work in the real world and so my reaction really was that I think we would all like this if we all had the money that a giant tech company like Apple had We would all do this we would try different things and it would not have consequences But I don't think that that is something that can be carried over into the real world Especially when we're talking about technology startups that are bootstrapping and don't have a lot of cash So you know it's nice to hear it sounds big and grand, but is it practical advice for the average tech entrepreneur? I would say probably not I think apples, you know Apple's sort of its own, you know Special beast whether you're a fan of the company or not But I do think that and many companies are all companies You know that are competitors to Apple on any scale are going to be having internal failures and say Yeah, this product isn't quite ready yet. Of course. That's not that's not unique to Apple. However Apple is often accused of you know ripping off something that a competitor has had out for you know eons I mean just think of all the Android examples, you know, we could list it, you know And it's a long list right and and you know Apple fans will say well You know Apple likes to perfect its product. It doesn't want to be first It doesn't want to rush something to market that said it is often seen as a company That's playing catch up with a lot of new technology And I think some other companies might say, you know, it's a little bit of that You don't have to be right as long as you're first because then you can correct it later But you were still first. I think that there might be more of a exciting Momentum mentality that Apple simply cannot afford to be because what they at least can ride on their Laurels on You know, even if it's even if not everybody agrees is that they take the time to get it right Yeah, I think yeah, I think what Apple does probably means they avoid some failures But there's there's there's some things that you just you won't know if it's gonna fail until you test it at Scale and that's just something you can't do internally You got to put it out there in the real world and and have a lot of people using it I mean, what about that you're holding it wrong and yeah, I mean, it's not like Apple didn't test that internally They just didn't realize enough people had hold it wrong. It is had that a sample bias of people who held it right And I mean if you really think about technology of the future and design of the future I mean, I don't necessarily just want such a small Data set of people deciding on what's going to work. I think you're right You have to kind of get it out there into the marketplace Would I trust that? Hey if just Apple was you know coming up with a product idea internally that they would always know if it was Gonna be perfect. I agree with you. I don't I don't know if they have that magic power Well, this story is pretty interesting MIT technology review has a story up called NASA Inches closer to printing artificial organs in space. Yes That's really the headline last week NASA named two winning teams in its vascular tissue challenge that required teams To create human organ tissue that could survive for 30 days the Winston and W firm teams from Wake Forest Institute for regenerative medicine Both used 3d printing to grow liver tissue The liver is one of the most complex organs to replicate one team used to tubular structures to develop blood and nutrients to the tissue To deliver it rather and the other created spongier tissue structures to achieve the same thing Winston which one first place out of the two will get to send its research to the International space station the research of course has implications for organ transplants on earth But NASA's involved because it would be it would like to be able to create organ transplants if necessary for astronauts on long-term missions You're all the way up there. You need to organ transplant You know it's good place to have it and the lack of gravity makes that even more challenging than it is on the ground Eugene Boland the chief scientist at Tech Shot which made the bio fabrication Facility which is activated on the ISS back in 2019 says that printing on earth is like printing with Play-Doh Printing in space is like printing with honey. It's a tard Either way 3d printed organs are getting as close to commercialization on earth as it is in heaven This is this is fascinating because this we always talk We don't always but we often talk about the technologies developed for space having benefits on the ground And this is probably one of them could be one of the greatest examples of that where they they need to be able to print you a New organ when you're on the moon base, and you don't have you know time to get back to earth for your transplant But that means we have the ability to print you a new liver down here on earth. That's incredible Yeah, I thought it was fascinating to be honest with you I read it a couple times before I really saw that line because I was trying to figure out why they were trying to do This in space first, but then it makes sense like Sarah said that it's really about those future long deep space mission So thinking that Astronauts are going to be gone for months or years at a time. So in that context, it's fascinating I mean, you know, this is the stuff that I just you know, it's magical, right? And it's it's phenomenal to think about what can be done in those possibilities and just imagine a world where we could successfully do this It would just be a phenomenal innovation Yeah, I was with you Amber when I first read it. I was like, do we not have room to make organs it on earth? I mean, maybe we don't I don't know enough about it. But yeah, it's like, okay You got an astronaut up there They can't just you know, come on back down to you know The the local hospital and get a procedure done and then of course looking you know way ahead in the future You know colonization people living up there all the time You got to have this these sorts of capabilities and it was that much harder to achieve off of earth And it's possible then you know, we're really getting somewhere. Yeah some day after a hard night out on Mars You'll just print yourself a new kidney the next day Boy, well before you have to do that you you might enjoy a new product from Bandai Bandai announced the Tamagotchi smart I watch with a virtual pet that includes a touchscreen to pet the creature Microphone to talk to the creature pedometer to make sure you're giving it enough exercise because you know It's walking along with you get it as well as wireless connectivity So you can interact with other Tamagotchi because you don't want it to be lonely and you need it to socialize The watch will first be available through a lottery in Japan and then available in the country November 23rd for 7,480 yen, that's around 68 US dollars with extra content available through small physical smart keys for 1,100 yen. I think this is cute. I mean, I think yeah, people will like this I mean, I love that there's those fitness elements built in in terms of the pedometer I think we have a bit of a crisis as well as we think about the next generation in terms of their physical activity Especially with so many months of virtual school and screen time and all those things So I think for younger kids I think this could be really fun and really cute and they would probably absolutely love it anything to kind of get Them moving around and you know, if they have a virtual pet who encourages them to do so Probably more powerful than a parent Everything 90s is back. That's that's what that's what I see when I see this like it's all coming back We're gonna get digital pogs any day now. Just keep an eye out. It's gonna happen. It is true Yeah, I actually I'm watching stranger things again with my son and I know that's more of the 80s But it's funny because I'm watching that and I'm thinking some of the fashions probably back even today All right, let's check out the mailbag Let's do it. Charlie had some thoughts on Google's big new fancy retail store in New York City Charlie says I haven't been there yet, but it's in the list of things. It might be nice to do today I can't comment on the Google Store itself But this Google Store is two blocks from the Apple Store in the Chelsea neighborhood of New York City So it's walkable three blocks from the Samsung showroom That's like the one that Tom visited in Japan where you see a bunch of products You don't necessarily buy them, but you understand a lot more about them when you leave Charlie says and it's all adjacent to the High Line anyone who's not familiar with the High Line It's tourist attraction where you can kind of walk in this elevated Pathway above the city. Charlie says get all your tech in one place that way Yeah, and it's right by the Chelsea market So you can get some artisan donuts and some high-end meats and then ghosts go fuel up for your visits to all the Pixel phone pictures of your food. Do you see it's perfect? Yeah If you have if you have thoughts or questions or comments or I don't know Maybe you want to print an organ in space and would like to tell us more about it All of those thoughts can go back to feedback at daily tech news show comm Thank you in advance We expect to come back to the office on Monday with a lot of emails for personal stories Shout out to patrons at our master and grandmaster levels included at Dale McKay he Scott Hepburn and Bjorn Andre. Also, thanks to our brand new boss, Luke Backing us on patreon. Thank you, Luke. Good to see you Welcome back Luke. You're the best All right. Thanks to Len Peralta who has also been Illustrating during the show today. Len. What have you drawn for us this week? Well, you know every once in a while I get to cross the streams between DTNS and my my life as a tabletop game artist And I thought I had an opportunity to do that with this one I really really was taken by the tick tock story and this one's called rock of the tock and It's just you know, it's it's an homage to the game munchkin which I am tangentially a part of as an artist and sadly The munchkins are at Steve Jackson games Andrew hacker a good friend of mine passed away yesterday So I wanted to do something in honor of not only that the cool tick tock Thing that's coming up, but also Andrew who was a really really good friend of mine So if you want to see a closer version of rock the tock You can go to my patreon at patreon.com forward slash Len or you can look at it at my online store at Len Peralta store.com so check it out. That's really good Lynn. Thanks for doing it. That's awesome. Thank you Good work as always land voice cracked a little bit. I was so touched Thanks also to Amber Mac for being with us Amber and I have not been on a show together in a really long time Although she is a regular guest on here on DTNS Amber. What else do you have going on? Yeah, just been doing my weekly show the feed on Sirius XM doing lots of virtual speaking which I'm loving and You know just creating content all around technology and innovation and definitely missing our time together Sarah But I don't know if you remember way back when every time I would sneeze on the show someone would make a montage Well, that person is still doing that. So thankfully for this we will not have me sneezing on air Well, you know, I can always throw some red chili flakes your way on your next appearance Give them some some Twitter fodder again. Well, so good to have you so good to see you Reminders everybody. 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