 The Walker and one of the most brilliant people I've ever met in my life. In our circle, Dr. Warner, he's the genius preacher. Raphael Warner is well educated and ordained minister and pastor of one of the most historic churches not just in Atlanta or Georgia, but America. And yet, 88% of the evangelical Christians did not vote for the man of God. They are in a runoff for December 6th because of the people who claim they have a relationship with God. Evangelicals said we're not going to vote for the man who has dedicated his life to Christ and the church. It brings new meaning to this scripture and verse when he says, if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and then I will give them of their sins and then I will heal their land. The question is, how can 88% of evangelicals vote for that man and not the man of God? Joshua had to ask the people, which side are you on? Which God are you going to serve? Choosy. Whom you will serve? Walker? Or Warner? As for me at our house, we're going to serve the Lord. We're going to vote for Warner. And I'm decreeing and declaring that folk who had no intention on voting for Raphael or Warner are going to get in the voting booth and the spirit of God is going to arrest them. I probably can get away with what I'm about to say more so than people who are not black because it's getting to the point to where we're running out of good biblical black preachers. It really is. There's nothing wrong with being a black preacher. Nothing wrong with that at all. Nothing wrong with having even a predominantly black church. You should not look to have a predominantly black church just like you should not look to have a predominantly white church or predominantly Asian church or Hispanic church. If it comes out that way, that's fine. That's fine. But you want to be all inclusive. You want to be as diverse as possible. If you can't understand it, people tend to gravitate towards style. But what is happening now is we're having more and more pastors that have kind of this new wave of black pastors are going towards a more socially conscious pastorate. They tend to be, in many cases, for a lot of them more black than biblical. And that's a problem because this is how you become an unbiblical black pastor. Being a black pastor is not unbiblical, but there are some black pastors who are unbiblical. There are some black churches who are unbiblical. Oftentimes, you'll see that if you have a particular person who is more concerned with the world, it tends to kind of matriculate and kind of infest and fester in the ranks of the people in the pews. Why? Because most people, when you show up someplace at a church, at a lecture, in college, wherever you go, you may go to a symposium. You may go to a seminar. There's just something implied or implicit in us giving the person who was up speaking. We give them a little extra due, a little extra respect. We assume, even whether they've earned it or not, we assume that this person knows what they're talking about, especially when it comes to the black church. And when I say the black church, obviously there is no such thing as biblically the black church. But when I say the black church, I mean the church that is predominantly black. In many cases nowadays tends to want to be black or have a black focus and, if you will, an Afrocentric focus. I just saw someone's comment and he said blasters, yeah, that's pretty good, I like it, man. We have that too often. Matter of fact, the accent goes good, doesn't it? We have this too often where the focus is what's happening in the community. Now, I'm not saying that pastors, be they black, white, Hispanic or what have you, should not ever focus or have anything to say about what's happening socially. That's not what I'm saying. I don't have a problem with that at all. I have a problem when what is happening socially becomes the main component of what's being spoken of out of the pulpit. Because the people are listening to you, they are going to take what you say almost or in many cases, as it is, gospel. And there's the problem, especially if what you're saying is more opinionated or more in some cases, party driven. Many of you have seen and heard, saw the video clips from different pastors all across the country who tended to be politically motivated in telling people that they ought to vote for a particular candidate and if it's a black church, tended to be a black or a Democrat candidate. And the problem was, they tended to want to associate the person that was running for office that they wanted them to vote for, almost in a God-like status, an apostle-like status, a prophet-like status, someone who is to be held by the masses and this is who God wants us to have. The problem is, we've been doing this for about 50, 60 years. About 50 or 60 years, we have seen the black church and I say the black church because you don't have this phenomenon happening in predominantly Hispanic churches or predominantly white churches. Yes, there are white churches that tend to focus in many cases on the Republican side or the conservative side. No, the difference between the white churches that tend to focus on the conservative Republican side and the black churches that tend to focus on the Democratic side is, for us, we think it's all about our survival. And what we end up doing all too often is we tend to not relate what we're saying with the true gospel, we'll twist it. In other words, we'll make Jesus out to be a revolutionary, out to be a reformer, out to be a militant, a rule breaker. He was not a rule breaker. There was no sin in him. He was not a militant. He was God in flesh. And so we tend to make him out to be something that he is not. We make it out is that if he were alive today, he would be marching in a civil rights movement. Now, let me just say this first and foremost, any church, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, any church that is trying to promote a particular political party, I've got a problem that as a matter of fact, I want to go to a pastor in the Bible that I think anybody, black, white, conservative, liberal, should be able to get from this. Recall when Joshua, now Joshua is told by Moses that he is going to take over for Moses. Joshua's going to be the person that's going to lead them. Interestingly enough, I want to talk about somebody who calls themselves the next Joshua. God has told Joshua. Joshua knows that he is God's man. He is leading God's chosen people that is Israel. And so on the mountain, Joshua is confronted with a man and look at what happens. This is Joshua chapter five, verse 14. Matter of fact, let's go a little bit further. Verse 13, let's start here. He says, and now it came to pass about when Joshua was by Jericho that he looked up and behold, a man was standing opposite him with his sword drawn in his hand. And Joshua went to him and said to him, are you for us or for our adversaries? Too often we tend to make either Jesus a Democrat or Republican. He's neither. He asked the man, are you for us or are you for our adversaries? Well, Joshua, wrong question. Or matter of fact, more to the point, the man that you're speaking to is going to kind of set you straight. He's going to give you a better answer because his answer is no. Well, wait a second, Mr. man, whoever you may be, Joshua is about to find out. I did not ask you a closed question. A closed question is one where you answer by a yes or no. This was an open question. I want to find out whose side are you on. Not no. That's not how you answer the question. But the man needed him to understand. No, I'm not on your side. Let's look at he says verse 14. He says, no, rather I indeed come now as captain of the host of the Lord. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and bowed down and said to him, what has my Lord to say to his servant? And so no, Joshua. It's not whose side is Jesus on. No, who's on Jesus side? Who's on the Lord side? God is not concerned with the Republican Party nor is he concerned with the Democratic Party at all. It's a Democratic, the Democratic Party at all. What he's concerned about is who's on his side because whoever is on his side, by the way, this can be applied even individually. We're not asking, we should not ever ask God to, God bless what I'm doing. No, how about we do what God is blessing, get on board with him and do his work. Jesus says the work that I do, not the work that you want to do, the work that I do, you will do also and greater. You're gonna do the work that I'm doing. I'm not leaving you here to make America the greatest country ever to live. No, no, that's not the point. I'm not here to make you into a new revolution. No, that's not what, I'm not here to have the most progressive country on the planet. I'm not here to save the planet. I'm not here to save the country or the world from climate change. I'm not here so that women can have this right and that right. That's not what I'm here for. I'm here to save some people, not for a better world, but to take them out of this world. You do know that we are not long for this world. Problem is, some people forget that. Some people want to be as political as possible and save because there have been some things that have happened in the country and we want to focus on the things that have happened in order to keep the person enslaved. And what I mean by enslaved is have their mind tied to a particular party, a particular movement, that's happened. For 50, 60 years, folks with my skin tone have hooked themselves up, aligned themselves up with a particular party. At some point in time, you're going to say if it ain't working, why are you still doing it? Now, I'm not saying that salvation is found in the Republican Party, so please do not say or think or make the claim that's what I'm saying. I am, however, saying that you can't find, if you can't find any sort of biblical backing in, and I'll say at the Democratic Party, well, then what are you there for? You've been living for 50, 60 years and we haven't got, how about we do this one thing? And I'm not saying put our allegiance towards the Republican Party. Nope, not at all, I'm not Republican. How about you put your allegiance towards God? How about you take care of you and your family and then as you take care of you and your family, then what do you do? You kind of start broadening out, take care of your neighbors, your friends, those are close by you, and then watch your neighborhood develop and grow, and then watch your community grow, the schools that your children go to, make sure that they are, as much as possible, having something to do with the Lord growing in the Lord, the boys' club, girls' club and so forth. We can have a godly society if we want. We can have a godly enclave if we want. Even though the world is perishing, God is still going to take care of us. Y'all do recall that God said to Abraham, I'm not going to destroy a lot if there are X amount of righteous people. At some point in time, it makes me wonder how soon is it going to be before he destroys America because we won't have any more righteous people. And so if God sees that we are righteous, he's going to take care of us. Again, if we're doing the work that he says, rather than trying to do the work of this mayor, of this governor, of this political party, in Chicago, one of the largest churches, one of the largest black churches with a prominent black pastor invites Miss, Miss, Mrs. Lori Lightfoot. She's the mayor of Chicago. Now, I don't mind saying this. It'd be hard press to say that she's done a wonderful job. Now, I don't live in Chicago, but just noticing, if she's doing a wonderful job, I'd hate to see what a bad job looks like. I mean, my God, even the Chicago Bears are leaving Chicago. That's how bad it is. We've got crime after crime after crime. And they invite this woman there to give a word out of the Bible. Did they forget that this woman is a lesbian and married to a woman? And she's come to Salem in this moment to speak to us. Salem, would you please warmly receive our Mayor, Auntie, I mean, Mayor Lori Lightfoot. Scripture provides us with a guide to navigate this moment. You can probably assume already that it's going to go off the rails. When she says yes, yeah, Diana, she said, they said, Auntie, Scripture, this woman has a Bible. Now, maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just me. But I think I might need to rewind it because the Bible that she holds up looks like one of those Bibles that you get out of the hotel. I'm just wondering if maybe she picked up this Bible. I don't think that she is really all that in tune with the Scripture. I think we're gonna get a good enough glimpse from her what she says out of her mouth that will indicate that she's not that very well versed when it comes to Scriptures. She certainly isn't very well versed when it comes to even understanding the names or how to pronounce the books of the Bible. Now, those of you who have your Bible, Pastor, did they really think I was gonna come up here and talk to this congregation and not know my Bible? Those of you who have your Bible, turn with me to Deuteronomy, chapter 31. Deuteronomy, chapter 31. Deuteronomy, Deuteronomy. Deuteronomy is that do the raw money. Do the raw money, Deuteronomy, do, do. Yeah, that's how she said it because she is so biblically versed. And what was happening at that time that's reflected in those verses? Moses, who had been leading the Israelites for 40 years in the desert, had spoken to God and God had told him, you will not go and pass over into Canaan, the Promised Land. I will go before you and then Joshua will lead. Great leaders know that people of faith, they don't need a leader, they need their faith and they need to listen to the teachings of the Lord. And so, Salem nation, I tell you, fear not because your Joshua is on the stage as Moses takes his lead. She said, you're Joshua, that's her. She's saying that she is their Joshua. I don't know what's more incredible, the fact that she said it and thought and assumed that it would go over well or the fact that it did go over well, the fact that they, amen, yay. Where do I sign up? What's the old saying for Chicago politics, especially for the Democrat machine, vote early and often? It's almost like, yeah, amen, come on. She said it and she knew it would go over well and it did, they cheered for that. You know why we have this allegiance? The Bible says, in Amos, do two walk together unless they have agreed. How can two walk together unless they agree? Well, the reason why you can have these people joined and hooked up with these politicians, these churches hooked up with these politicians because they agreed. Now, it's not that the politician agrees with their view of the Bible. The only thing left is that these churches agree with their view socially as politicians because that's more important. Every day I drive, not every day, but often I drive by, go by a church here in Dallas. You all have heard me speak about it. I thought about putting him involved in this and he said, on the top of this outside of the church, on the outside of the church, Friendship West Baptist Church here in Dallas, it's not a church, it's not a Baptist. It is on the western side of the city though, I'll give them that, I'll give them that. It's still got the big band on the outside, Black Lives Matter. And the church design was in the design of the Egyptian pyramid. It's a really Afro-centric church. And I say church loosely. It's a gathering. It's where the homeboys and homegirls go together and meet Freddie Haines and you find people all over the country that are just like him. More and more with this espousing, either black liberation theology, progressive theology. The problem is, the problem is, is that they're rarely espousing true theology. And that's the problem. That's how they can agree. That's how they can walk together because they agree, not biblically, the Bible is secondary. What's more important is the march. Who's gonna be elected? Whose business can get built up? That's what's happening. And I know this for a fact with him because again, I've had my personal dealings with him, but you see this happening all over. I showed a clip, I covered something about us not using the Bible, putting the Bible and the true authentic words of it's secondary. And I used a pastor in New York, Michael Walburn Jr. I used him and I said, guys, wait till you hear the rest of what he says and you'll have your, because what he says, and you'll hear part of what he says, your mouth is gonna open up and you're gonna have to kind of close it back up, but it's gonna open up again because it's gonna say something else that is just not biblical. Do we want to admit it or not? This is how the church now is marked. People again, who use religion to spew racist rhetoric, insecure men who think somehow their duty is to hold women back and persons who are so overwhelmed by capitalism that preachers stand in pulpits looking like poster children for capitalism. We have become so fixated on the right rituals, the right rules and the right ceremonies that we forget we follow the radical revolutionary teachings of the poor Jewish carpenter. Again, we're following this radical revolutionary of the poor, Jesus was not radical, nor was he revolutionary. What he was was godly, he was God in flesh. He didn't change anything, he came to preach and to give what God has always been in the business of doing, which was reconciling the word himself. No, he didn't change, the world changed. And so there's nothing about him that was all that radical. We are in so much sin that we see that something good and godly is radical and it's not revolutionary. He's not a freedom fighter. That's not who he is, but that's how they're gonna paint him. And so therefore anyone who's on the march or fighting for the cause of women's rights, LGBTQ. And I say women's right, not that we have this issue against women, but when they speak about women's right and feminism, it's a lot different than how we see godly women are to be. Not that they are to be subjugated and cast aside. No, they wanna paint it as though Christians believe that, but we don't believe that at all. Matter of fact, I don't think that there's anybody on the planet that's more loved than a woman who has a Christian man. A woman who's surrounded by godly men is more love than any feminist woman out there, than any left-leaning woman out there bar none. It's not even close. Where the Bible is preached, where the gospel is preached, you see women having more freedom than anywhere else on the planet. It's not even close. We become so fixated on antiquated language and doctrine disconnected from the teachings of Jesus that we dogmatically profess that we forgotten that God is still speaking and that everything heard by God cannot always be cross-reference in scripture. I need to help somebody today. This is where we get this idea that just because the Bible doesn't say it, then we can go ahead and make it up. Yeah, the Bible doesn't say this, this, and this. And since it doesn't, we can go ahead and say it. Or if the Bible says don't do this, it's okay, we can change it because we wanna make the Bible culturally relevant. No, that's not how it works. We do need to realize that some of the things that we deal with today, and I'm not saying that society's perfect. I'm not saying that women are treated the best, that men are treated the best. People aren't treated the best today. It's just how we're in a fallen world. We're gonna have a lot of things out there that just are not got it. We have some things that just make you scratch your head, shake your head, and just wondering, Lord, when are you coming? And it's getting worse and worse and worse. So we're not out there acting as though that we live in a utopian society. We know we don't. But God did not come again to change the world. Remember, God lived in a world where there was, I mean, God, Jesus lived in a world when he walked the earth where there was far more sexism, far more physical abuse and sexual abuse, far more racism. They lived, he lived in a time where there was actual slavery, actual slavery. So we need to kind of think about what was going on with Jesus and what he did not do because Jesus could have easily decided to mount a campaign to stomp out poverty. No, rather he said, the poor you'll have with you always. He could have marched for the freedom of anyone in servitude. No, but he did not. So we need to move away from this thought that Jesus would have been a liberator in that cause. The Jews thought that he was coming, some of the Jews thought that he was coming to liberate them socially, politically, but he did not, he can't liberate them spiritually. There are some Christians who say things like, if it ain't in the book, it ain't real. What are you talking about? You mean to tell me, you got the audacity to think that everything God wants you to know can only be found in the Bible? When you worship the Bible more than you worship God, it's called Bibliotry. No, what it is is you're bothered that we look to the Bible for asking solutions rather than either look to you or look at some politician, rather than look to you to some frame of thought, some movements, some philosophy, some idea, you have a big problem with that. And because we who follow the Bible have a big problem with you looking at that, then you have a problem with us. Somebody may be saying, so what are you saying, pastor? We don't need the Bible. I'm not saying that you don't need the Bible. I'm saying put it in his proper perspective. You sitting up here talking about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob quoting Ezekiel, Malachi, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, you are talking, we preach every week about folk who had no Bible. Moses had no Bible, Joshua had no Bible, Abraham had no Bible. All they had was a word from God they heard and a feeling in their heart. And here we are telling folk to stop trusting what they feel and stop trusting what they hear. Yeah, so these people in the Bible heard from God. He's saying that we should start telling people to not stop, to stop trusting. When we tell folks to stop trusting what they feel and what they hear, it'd be different if what they heard and what they felt came from God. That'd be different. And we can verify that because the Bible says that not all spirits come from God, so test them to see. So if something is from God, then fine, we can test it. But what he's getting at is if there's some man who feels like I'm a woman, you're the same man, I feel like a woman. If there's some man who's out there like that, let him feel that way. If there's some woman who feels like she ought to be a man, if there's somebody who wants to abort their child, who are you? That's his greater point, guys. How do I know? Listen what he's about to say. No. No. We have become so fixated on using religion as a weapon of mass destruction and divisiveness that we've forgotten the life-giving, transcendent, transformative power of love. Be careful when people start talking about love. Love. Love. Love. How many of you all have children? You love your children. Love does not mean that they get what they want. They get everything that makes them feel good. As a matter of fact, a lot of times you're gonna tell them some things that they just simply do not like. And to themselves, they're still developing minds will wonder, I thought you loved me. I do love you. That's why you're getting spanked. I do love you. That's why you're in punishment. I do love you. That's why you're not going across town with your friends because I love you. I do love you. That's why you're in punishment for getting, bringing indies. Whatever it is, I love you. And so I'm going to try to grow you in your, and I'm gonna tell you the truth. As Paul said, have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth? And so if you're in sin, be it sexual sin, be it some sort of idolatry of the government or what have you or a particular political movement, and I tell you the truth, then I do so because one, I love him and I love you also. Those two things are not exclusive. I can tell you that I love you but also be stern and forceful and tell you the truth. As a matter of fact, if I love you, I will tell you the truth. You got preachers up here talking about they are against abortion. Good, so don't have one then. But don't impose your feelings on other people because your patriarchy is reckless. Think members of the LGBTQ plus community of God. Good, you don't associate with them. Jared said, you don't agree with abortion. Fine, good, don't have one. Not that abortion is wrong. Not that abortion is bad. No, if you feel like it's bad, fine, don't you have one. But don't tell anyone else not to have an abortion. You feel like that the LGBTQ, that being homosexual is in front of the guy and it is according to the scriptures. Fine, don't hang around. This is a pastor. This is a pastor and they are God. You know what I really wish though? I really wish they would have turned the cameras around. I would love love to have seen who's clapping. I can imagine the kind of people that are there clapping, I really could. As a weapon of mass destruction and divisiveness that we've forgotten the life-giving, transcendent, transformative power of love. You got preachers up here talking about they are against abortion. Good, so don't have one then. But don't impose your feelings on other people because your patriarchy is reckless. Because our patriarchy is reckless. Now he said earlier that that's part of the new Christian Trinity. Our patriarchy, well let me tell you who our patriarchy is. Our patriarchy is none other than God Almighty, our Father, yeah. That's our patriarchy if you wanna ascribe that to us. But can I say this about anyone that has any questions about abortion that you are not killing a clump of sales, you're not getting rid of something that's just kinda inconvenient. Let me tell you what you're actually getting rid of. I wanna use an example of how the Bible describes Jesus. Let's go to Matthew chapter one verse 18. Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follow. When his mother had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit. In other words, Mary was pregnant. She had a clump of sales that she had a fetus as though that's a bad thing nowadays. And so the Bible says in verse 19, and Joseph her husband being a righteous man and not wanting to disgrace her, planned to send her away secretly. Verse 20. But when he had considered this behold, an angel of the Lord appeared in dream saying, Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife. For the child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. Now, I want you to look at this word conceived. And if you look at this word conceived, you will see how the Bible views a baby on the other side of the womb. This word for conceived is from the Greek word, guenathan. The Greek word guenathan comes from the word guenami which is to be born or to bear or to begot, to be fathered. The Bible considers a embryo, a zygote, a fetus. These are just different developmental stages of a baby inside the womb. Consider that person, that baby, born already just on the other side of the womb. That's it. And so when someone says otherwise, you're not looking at the Bible closely, especially a pastor who should know better, but then again, anybody can be a pastor nowadays, I guess. Think members of the LGBTQ plus community are of God. Good, you don't associate with them. But don't try to diminish somebody's humanity in Jesus' name, because you don't understand the complexity of God's creativity. Let me tell you the complexity of God's creativity. There is a hole in your heart that can never be right unless you're connected with Him. But even more so when it comes to people of the LGBTQ community, where do we find the highest rate of depression and suicide no matter what country it's in, in that particular community? Even as people say, well, that's because of the society that they have been forced to be in here in America. But when they go to, let's say, one of these Scandinavian countries where it's even more accepted and open, the suicide rate is still high. You have a what is, now I don't know if the 95% rate is accurate, but even if it was just off, all of these kids, these people that have transitioned, weird word, but that have taken on these little sex changes, 95% of them they say are regretting them. Let's just say the 95% is too high. How much higher is it? What, 85%, 75%? That's still pretty high. You know why? Because they're trying to accomplish something that can only be found in God. And changing your sexual, or reassigning your sex outwardly, first of all, when you die, when you're born, we'll still know that you are either XX or XY chromosome make up. That part won't change. You have to keep taking pills. Never forget, I had this conversation with a guy. This was in prison and in prison, you've got a lot of people that are transitioned. By the way, some of you all don't realize this, but a lot of people in prison, the government pays for their transition. If you're in prison, recall the guy who was sent to the Feds for spy or espionage or giving secrets to guy Bradley Manning. And then he comes out as Chelsea Manning. That's the only time I'm gonna call him that name because just so you'll know who he is. Well, he went in as a male, came out as a female in the eyes of the government. How does that happen? How was that able to happen? Because your United States government will foot the bill for that. And so we've got these guys that are going through therapy, they're taking the pills and so forth, they're gonna throw all that stuff in the Feds. And I'll never forget having this conversation. There was a young guy who was going through that and we were having a conversation about Jesus, about the Bible, about his life. One, he felt before that there was a guy, but that guy was cruel because his son was killed in a tornado. Prior to his son dying in a tornado, he believed that he said that he believed in God. Well, he didn't obviously, but he said so. I said, well, wait a minute, you believe that God was, that there was a God and that he was a good God, even though that you saw that other people had died from natural instances such as a hurricane or an earthquake or a flood or tornado, you didn't have a problem with them dying. Then when someone else died, it was okay, God was still God. But when your child is taken away from some sort of natural cause like a tornado, then there is no God. Well, that's a selfish way of looking at things. He said, well, I don't care. He said, right now I'm just trying to do what I can to make me happy. And so I asked him, are you really happy? Just, he and I were kind of like, are you really happy? Because you can't be, this is who I am. This is the real me. Yeah, but stop taking those pills for just a little bit. Stop shaving. Let them send you to the shoe, to the hole, and you don't have a razor. At beer starts coming out. You start looking more and more like a man. Your voice gets kind of wrangled. Those pills, you don't get them in the same supply there. If you stop taking those pills and stop putting them on that makeup, you're gonna start seeing who God meant for you to be. Why don't you accept that? And of course he cried. Now, the story, I wish it could be a happier story with this particular person that he would have seen it now. Again, maybe I planted, maybe someone else waters and then God gives the increase. I don't know. But the next happy transgender that you meet will be the first happy transgender that you meet. The next happy homosexual person that you meet will be the first happy homosexual that you meet. Those two things don't happen. Now, they can tell you they are and they can sell it to you, but it's not the case. And so why would we tell someone about that? Why would we avoid meeting these people? We wanna give them the truth. And so no, we're not gonna avoid that because you or other folks who don't wanna hear they're gonna be uncomfortable. Mr. Pastor, you would think though from the pulpit, you would do the same thing. Now, we have become mean spirited, bitter and intolerant. And the times we are in are just as terrifying. Again, how am I your enemy for telling you the truth? I'm being mean spirited for telling you the truth. But if a person finds himself in hell, they would have a legitimate right to be angry. They would have a legitimate right. You guys didn't tell me what we did. You have been duly warned. Now, for this pastor, you too have been warned. And he knows, but he didn't care. He does not care. And now I can go into more about his little background story and about his family and his wife and so forth. Not nothing scandalous, but in terms of how they live, she's also supposed to be a pastor or a preacher. Hold another topic, hold another topic. But the Bible says this, because what this comes from is that people just want to be friendly with the world. I've got gay parishioners, transgender parishioners. I've got people who are engaged in so many different things. And so I want them to be comfortable. But the Bible says what adultery is. He says adultery with the word. He says, you adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility towards God. Therefore, whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. He can do his best to be friends with those who are trying to live in the world. That's fine. That's fine. I would say this to Michael Walrund and to the other folks. Enjoy it then. Enjoy your life here on this planet. I'm hoping that it will be worth it when you receive your new reward. Not me, this is God. You cannot be friends with the world intentionally and then also be friends with God. It does not work that way. Now, speaking of being friends with the world, speaking of being unbiblical, speaking of being not a pastor, it'd be one thing if you were too socially conscious, which is bad if you're a pastor. It'd be another thing also if you've got bad doctrine, which is bad if you are a pastor. That's bad also because pastors shouldn't be that way. But if you're just a moral failure, and I don't mean we all have been moral failures, but if you're trying to be a moral failure and covering it up, and when you get caught and you come out preaching, I'm still the man. Got a problem with you. You all know who I'm talking about. I think one of, if not the worst black pastor in America. That's saying a lot. That is saying a lot. If he's not number one, listen, he's in the top five. If AP had a top 25 for horrible pastors, Jamal Bryant would be up there. Jamal Bryant will be contending for the national championship without a question. This is Jamal Bryant. I won't play the clip. I'll go back and watch it later. But this is saying to Jamal Bryant, who said that Jesus was out of order for 85% of his life because he was doing what his natural father wanted. Yeah, he said that. This is the guy who, I won't get into all the different moral failings of his life because we don't have that kind of time. We don't have that kind of time. But let's just listen to him as he wants to kind of bring the world in to his church. It is my privilege to warmly welcome to this pulpit, to this sanctuary, to the most powerful church in the whole state of Georgia. My spellman sister, an amazing trailblazers, somebody who God anointed from birth for this moment. I wanted to say to America, if you couldn't handle a black mermaid, get ready for a black governor. I am so thankful that her head is not underwater, but she is prepared to walk into the state capitol. New birth makes some noise and receive our leader, Stacey Abrams. Thank you so very much. I'm sorry. He said our leader, and God has anointed her, has ordained her. I'm not correct. I'm not sure, but I don't want to say this because I'm not sure. I'm not sure if, because someone mentioned it that she also is a lesbian, I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't know. I can't say one way or the other, but what I can say is not godly. Certainly not godly, but to call her our leader. By the way, you're not a prophet, Jamal. Although Lovie tried to kind of put that mantle on you, but that did, that prophecy didn't go so well, did it? And the fact that you have her in your church, who is pro LGBTQ, who is pro, who says that she's definitely gay, okay, who is pro abortion, that lady, who says that it is a God given right, that lady is the one that you had in your church, she's your leader, or the one that you wished could have been your leader? Scared of this brand of Christendom that would suggest that women don't know how to make decisions over their own bodies. He said he's scared of this brand of Christianity that says, or Christendom, that says that women don't know how to make decisions over their own body. Well, they do know how to make decisions over their own body. That's why we're preaching against it. They can make their decision and we're trying to preach against that. We preach against everything else. Now, I know what they're gonna say. They're gonna say, well, if you were really pro-life, if you were really pro-life, then you would be pro-life from the womb to the tomb. No, no, I'm not responsible for you having sex, getting pregnant, having a baby. I'm not responsible for that. I'm not getting ready to fund your child's college tuition because y'all had a night out and then you wouldn't look too crazy and in between the time you figured out who the daddy is, I got to start putting money aside to pay for this kid's graduate. No, it's not gonna happen. No, what did we do in the black community and the white community in America, for the most part, when someone had a baby and they weren't ready to have a baby? I think we took care of the babies. There are a lot of people up, can I? Y'all make sure the kids don't hear this. Y'all make sure the young folks don't hear this. But I'm pretty sure of the five, six, seven people that are listening right now live, I'm pretty sure a good portion of you all were accidents. Remember that? We would tell each other I was an accident or you were an accident. Most of us were accidents. Most of us are parents in the planet. Most of us, mama did not, you know, hey, honey, let's have a baby. Now some did. My parents didn't. Listen, I showed up. I showed up unannounced and here I am. And if we're honest with ourselves, well, actually not if you're honest with yourself. Most of you all, if your parents are honest with you, they wouldn't plan it. Now I'm not saying that you were born out of wedlock either. But even in marriage, and we, you know, listen, we were watching TV one night and, you know, self-happiness. Now, the point is though, kids are never, be they planned or unplanned, kids are never, ever convenient. I'm saying it again. Anyone thinks differently than having kids. Kids are never convenient. You can't go to bed the way you want to. You can't wake up the way you want to. You can't eat what you want to eat. Matter of fact, they determine, oftentimes what the meal plan is going to be, what your budget is going to be, they, listen, the reason why you low on gas right now is because the kids got to go somewhere. Kids are never convenient. But can I give you another honest truth? You aren't either. Nothing convenient about you. You change your mind every four seconds. Walk out of the room. You go, what did I go in here to get? You know what, I'm in the kitchen all right. Let me go get some ice cream. So what we've done though, is we've taken the most drastic step and put it on the table because they're inconvenient and they're nowhere near as important as your happiness. Kill them. Mr. Jamal Bryant, who knows a thing or two about an abortion. I'm scared of this brand of Christendom that want to act like slavery didn't happen. Slavery did happen. As a matter of fact, again, there was slavery when Jesus walked the earth. Jesus should have went ahead and stamped slavery out though, I guess. I'm scared of this brand of Christendom that will turn a bland eye about what happened on January 6th and act as if the dead man should not be in jail right now. But I serve a God that reigns on the just and the unjust. How many of you all know that New Birth Baptist Church is not a church? These folks are sitting there cheering. They believe that, okay, they believe that Donald Trump should be in jail. They're preoccupied with January the 6th. Now, I'm not advocating or celebrating or defending anything that happened on January the 6th. Pretty bad. There also was a, now, this was stopped though. There also was another occasion when people tried to breach the White House walls as a matter of fact, they did. As a matter of fact, they did. It happened in the summer. So both are wrong, but that's what they're fixated on. And this is what you're preaching at your pulpit. This is what's being preached from the pulpit rather than what the sayeth the Lord. Amazing. And I know why you don't preach what the sayeth the Lord is because you're too busy trying to appease the people. Either the young folks with bringing in weed or the folks who just haven't got their stuff together and let's teach about how to use sex toys. What did you, what did Jamal call it? A new gospel for the young people. Yeah, that same Jamal Bryant. That same Jamal Bryant who's having a baby dedication service while speaking about the benefits of having an abortion. That same Jamal Bryant, again, one of the worst black pastors in America. Top 25, top 20, top 10, top five, headed for the national championship, maybe. Just not a good, now, what you're always gonna have are these people who want to always kind of hug up and associate themselves with these politicians and with the world. The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 5, 10, he says, I did not at all mean that you should associate with the immoral people of this world or with the covetous swindlers. I'm sorry, let me back up, look at verse nine. I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people. I did not at all mean with the immoral people of the world or with the covetous and swindlers or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. Paula's saying, I'm not saying guys, you don't have any right, nor should you avoid immoral people, how else will they hear the gospel? You've got to be around them, but I don't want you to associate with a certain type of moral or immoral people. He says, but I actually wrote, I'm sorry, I actually wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother. If he is an immoral person or covetous or idolater or a viola or a drunkard or a swindler, not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? But those who are outside, God will judge. Remove the wicked man from money. That's what we ought to do. That's what we ought to do. Now, he says to be fair to him, he probably isn't finished reading Deuteronomy. If you all didn't hear it earlier, you had to go back and listen to Mayor Lightfoot as she butchers the word Deuteronomy. By the way, by the way, even though I repeated that clip of her saying Deuteronomy, she said it twice earlier in her presentation and then later she said Deuteronomy. And I think she may have even said it in between as well. So it wasn't just a casual slip. She just doesn't know what the book is and clearly neither does Jamal Bryant or maybe, maybe he does. Maybe, and I think all these folks do know what the book says. They just don't care. They just don't care. There was a study. This is how our government works. There was a study. A couple million dollars where they spent to figure out if cats, kittens, kitty cats, beeline, if cats know their name. They did a study to figure out if cats actually know their name. The study came back and found out something that we all know. The cats do know and hear their name. And what it was, the conclusion was, they don't care. Cats don't care. That's what, I think that's what Jamal Bryant is. Jamal might know the stuff, but I think he just doesn't care. He doesn't care at all. And we can tell. Jamal had, listen, Jamal had studied. Jamal was going to school. Now I don't know what they studied at the school that he went to. Don't know. But Jamal has always been an advocate for social justice. He wanted, his dream job was to lead the NAACP. And I think he's trying to do that from the pulpit while at the same time following in the line of other great NAACP leaders and getting you a side chick or two on the side. Maybe, if I can't get it over here, I'll get it over there. Maybe that's what's happening. Well, cozying up to the world and being friends with the world, especially people who call themselves a brother who was clearly immoral and then for you to associate with them. That's happening more and more. Recently, I covered this and other folks have covered this. Pastor Terry Anderson down in Houston had the great, the Reverend, Al Sharpton. It's coming to start. Now come to find out, this is an ongoing, this is a yearly thing. This is a yearly thing, but before we get to that, matter of fact, no, one of the great troublemakers of YouTube, one of the great troublemakers of YouTube actually called him, cordial conversation, called him to find out, hey, what gives? I respect you as a pastor, as a preacher, as admired you, but I see you bringing in Al Sharpton and I just want to get some sort of clarification. Well, Brother Seiko Woods did get some clarification, not the kind that he was looking for. What kind of he was looking for? But Terry Anderson made one thing abundantly clear. You don't tell me what to do. Me, you're a contact number and I wanted to speak with you personally to share my concerns with you regarding a video that was released on the 11th of this month. You had invited Al Sharpton to speak at your church. And my concerns, and I'm pretty sure, well, I'll just speak for myself. My wife and I had been watching and had been following your ministry for quite some time and have always enjoyed your preaching, have always enjoyed the way you delivered the truth and the principles, the biblical principles about what you stood and stand on. But I must be honest with you, Pastor Anderson, as a fellow pastor as well. Now, I can say this. I think that probably Seiko probably prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed. I'm gonna be as cordial as I possibly can and he was. Listen, there's no fault that you can find in his tone with this man. The reason why I say I think he probably prayed and prayed and prayed is because it's hard not speaking to him a certain way. Like, what is your problem having this guy there? But he spoke to Pastor Anderson in a respectful manner. Now, I can imagine that Pastor Anderson sitting there thinking, who is this blankly blank talking to me? I'm just imagining, I'm just imagining. I was concerned and disappointed of you allowing Al Sharpton to speak at your church two weeks ago. And I just wanted to speak with you regarding that and to find out what was the biblical reasons for allowing this man. Well, first of all, hold on, Reverend. Sure. First of all, you don't tell me who to allow to preach at my church. I never said that. You way out of line. I never said that. I said I don't have to answer you or anybody else allowed to preach at Little Grove Church. That's offensive to me. Well, if you allow me the opportunity to share my concern to me. No, no, I don't want to hear your concern because you offended me already by saying that. Well, how did I offend you if I'm saying biblically that that is a concern? But you don't tell me what to do at Little Grove Missionary Baptist Church. Who do you think you are questioning me? Who do you, you don't listen. I say, if you had been close enough, I promise you he'd put his finger in your face. He put his finger in your face. I'm pretty sure. Who do you think you are? Your church. Well, the word, but that's not the word of God, but there's not the word of God, Pastor Anderson, tell us all on who we should allow and who we should permit to speak in God's church. Cause it's not your church. It's God's church. You don't have anything to do with who preach at Little Grove Church. You worry about your church and I'll take care of mine. Well, that's not the point I'll make it, Pastor Anderson. But I don't want to hear you pointing out, Reverend, because you're offended. How have I offended you? I don't tell you what to do at your place and you don't tell me what to do at mine. So I get off my phone. Wait a minute. Are you saying that it's okay to have people? Yeah. I don't know if you heard it while you were talking a little bleep. That's doing this with the cell phone. Get off my phone. Now, he has entered it. Again, this was a guy that you used to be able to look to and you would hear some sound teaching. Listen, I thought he was just straight and solid. And you might even want to kind of give him a pass if it's a one-time thing, but this is apparently an ongoing thing where they have this friendly relationship. How do you have this man who nobody really, for the most part in the black community, I think really supports this guy, but because he is a fighter for the Democratic party and I guess we're supposed to be Democrats too because, well, let's see, I'm black. So I guess I'm supposed to be Democratic. And so we go ahead and tolerate him, but you brought him to your church. And what's happening is you're doing this more and more in other things. You become, now you're becoming a little bit too pro-black, my friend. A policing can be traced back to the slave patrols. The earliest formal slave patrol was created in the Carolinas in the early 1700s with one mission and one goal. To establish a system of terror and to quash slave uprisings with the capacity to pursue, apprehend and return runaway slaves to their owners. By the way, have you all heard this before that when people bring up this thing that modern policing had as genesis in the slave patrols? Can I just tell you this for a fact that's not even accurate, that is factually inaccurate. First of all, we've had policing all throughout the world long before this, but even here in America. You can go back as early as, they had what were called the Watchmen in Massachusetts in 1631. Do you know what we didn't have in the South in 1631? The South. There was no South. There was no Alabama. There was no Mississippi. And this was to kind of keep law in order. Why? Because white folks get rowdy too. The Dutch get rowdy. The Brits, the Germans, folks get rowdy. And so they've had constables and Barbies and police officers all throughout the world. And so as they come to America, same thing here. And so look it up, 1631, the Watchmen in Massachusetts. This is, it's not, but this is a way to say that modern policing is just like the slave patrols to keep these black folks in order. And so the reason why we see this rough housing and so forth, it's just, it's reminiscent of the slave patrols. That's where policing came from. Slave patrols continued until the end of the civil war and the passage of the 13th Amendment. During reconstruction, because if you don't know history, you'll do them to repeat it. Kyle Rittenhouse, who was too young to even own a gun, no history. Now I want to get to this issue about Kyle Rittenhouse. He's going to talk about Kyle Rittenhouse and he's comparing it also with what happened with the guy was Tyree Nichols. I'm going to let him make both of his points in a second. And then I've got something that this is baffling to me. Maybe you smart Christians in the check and you all can help me out. It's enough of you out there, it's going on 700. It's enough of you out there that can kind of help me, walk me through this understanding because I'm a bit dumbfounded about something. You can help me out. To repeat it. Kyle Rittenhouse, who was too young to even own a gun, went to a demonstration and with a semi-automatic rifle shot and killed two protesters. And when he went to trial, he was acquitted of the charges. We want innocent black men to be police like guilty white men. Now, first of all, he was not too young to own a gun. He was not driven across the line by his mother in this all this. And he was not guilty. He literally was not guilty, but fine. I hear the point that you're trying to make and I'll make a bigger point after this. Cultural regime of dehumanization has been constructed in many police departments. And in that fertile ground, racial animus can spread and become entrenched, resulting in the deaths of Tyree Nichols. Now, look what he says. He's calling, what he's doing is he's saying this was racist and this was racist. And we've seen that. This is one thing that might be a little off topic, but I've got to ask this question, guys. So let me get this straight. If a white guy, a young white guy, shoots and kills two other white folks, that's racism. That's racist. That's institutionalized racist. The fact that this white kid, white young folk, young guy kills two white guys and gets acquitted. That's also evidence of institutionalized racism. Then we've got a black man killed by five black police officers. That's also racism. I'm needing, you know what I need? I need an NAACCPP pastor, a proof pastor, to tell me how is that racist? When the white guy kills a white guy, that's racism. When the black guy kills, when the black kills black, that's racism. Matter of fact, when blacks do it in, I don't know, Chicago, in St. Louis, in New Orleans, in Memphis, if it's black, that's not racism either. But the white guy killed the white, that's racism. Help me understand this. I'm trying to, yeah, the math ain't nothing, but we look for something, and I'll tell you why we do this in a second, but we look to paint a picture for a particular reason. Why are we a gallery shouting behind stained glass? Our side stained glass is open season on black men. We are being hunted down like prey. We are not safe in our own neighborhoods. Now, I've been black for most of my life. I've been black for most of my life, all my life. And I don't recall. I don't recall, now granted, I didn't live through the 20s and 30s and the 40s. I didn't live through that. But I lived through the 70s and the 80s and the 90s and up to now. I will say this though. I will say this though, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I haven't, I got glasses, and so maybe I'm not seeing things clearly. But things seem like they're a lot better racially wise. Now, we're talking more about it, which, because everything's racist now. When you did see racism in the past, we didn't even focus on, we didn't focus that much on racism when there was actual racism like we see today. Everything's racist now, everything is. And I don't wanna get on the housing stuff or whatever. I promise you, if you're gonna make that argument, you don't wanna make it towards me because that's not true. I don't wanna get in that the criminal justice system is institutionalized racism. You do not wanna have that conversation with me either because it's not. I'll put this aside. But there's a reason why Terry Anderson and others like these black pastors are doing this. It's because they hear and they see and they hear and they see not out of the lens of, or from a biblical perspective, from a social perspective. Maybe they're emotions have gotten up and they're reading. Do y'all remember how many of y'all, I just wanna see in the chats, some of y'all can't, everybody can't do this. Tyra, you can do this. See, you're kinda right, you probably can't do this. You probably can't do this. Seiko, you can do this. Carol, you can do this. Dinah, you can't do this Dinah. Marquette, you can't do this. Chest tamp, I'm not, maybe. No, you might have missed the cutoff. You might have missed the cutoff. Brother, C-Road Warrior, you may have, you may have. Lisa, you may have, y'all may have what? I'm gonna tell you in a second. I wanna see who has made the cutoff. How many of y'all remember? No Dutch, you too young, you don't remember. Monkey Moves, I know you too young, you probably too young. How many of y'all remember when roots first aired? When roots first came out? No, Dutch, you missed the cutoff, Dutch. No, Isaiah, yeah, he way too young. How many of y'all remember when roots first came out? I'm doing an experiment, an unscientific experiment right here. How many of y'all remember, look, Dutch said that, when born, how many of y'all remember when roots first came out? Angel, okay, she says I do, how many of y'all remember? Now Sharon, Sharon, wait a second, Sharon, how do you remember, Sharon, aren't you 37 years old? How many of y'all remember though? Yeah, when it first came out, everybody black was upset. Everybody black was upset. I don't care if he was two years old, if he was 12, 22, 42, everybody was upset. None of us knew anybody that had went through that, none of us, everybody was upset, everybody. I remember, now I was still young in school, but I remember people being upset in school. I remember the teachers, I think one or two black teachers at the school I was going to, because we had bussing going on back then. By the way, that's when I first met a Klansman. Well, the first time I met one with his hood on. They had their hoods on, they were burning the crosses because they didn't want us bussed out of that school, but I think we had two black, one or two black, yeah. Mr. What's his name, the music teacher. He was black, he was visibly shaking hostile. I don't think they invited him back the following year. You know why we were upset? Because you put this imagery in us and it's upsetting, and we got to take it out on somebody. And so the same thing happens now where you put these things before us and you let it run 24-7 on a just a continual loop. And it brings up an engendered emotion. And you got to take it on somebody, more to the point you got to blame somebody. And so because you have to blame somebody, who are you going to blame? You're going to blame one of two people or both, white, whitey, or the government. For many people, the same thing. The government is whitey. I don't care if we got a black president. I don't care if the city is black. I don't care if everybody in the mayor's office is black. I don't care whitey. Yep, we're going to blame them. Somebody has to get blamed for this. And then what's the solution? By the way, am I also, maybe it's just me. I didn't mean for it to go this direction, but maybe it's just me. Oh, that's what Mississippi Bernie did for you. Okay, I can see that. There are certain moves that do kind of just get you going. Get you, you know, what's the time to kill? Ugh, never happened to me, but it made me mad. Anyway, my question is this. I've never understood this, but this goes to what these preachers are doing. I've never understood this. If whitey, the white man is the cause and the government is also the cause. Why then do we go to whitey and the government for the solution? If y'all think they're the cause. If you think they're the problem, why are you going to them for the solution? I've never understood that. Oh, I know why. Because they're the ones that's selling you this bill of good, not white folks period, but certain folks in the government, they're selling you this bill of goods and telling you that they can help you. Yep. How do you get them to sell you this bill of goods? You gotta have the church. You gotta have the church for these black folks who go to church. Now, we may not even be serious about Jesus anymore, but we show up, why? Because here in Dallas, at Friendship Baptist West, at Friendship Baptist West, or Friendship West Baptist Church, I said Baptist West, same thing doesn't matter. At Friendship West, you gotta have somebody that's pushing this mess because they get money, they get notoriety, variety, they get speaking engagements, their brand goes up. If I'm pushing people, listen, I'm telling you what I know. I've seen it. Why do you think politicians every two years or four years show up at the black church? That's why. That's why. It's not the new one. That's why you get, what's her name? I forgot, Hillary. Hillary's showing up in the black church. I don't feel no ways, Todd. I've come too far. That's literally how she said it. And I said these color folk, these color folk in the church are amen. Because the church has become something that it was never meant to be. It was never meant to be a place to solve social issues. It is a place that is a gathering of like-minded, like-spiritual people to bring them closer to God. That's the point. And also to bring others. It is where we come together. We have corporate fellowship, corporate prayer, corporate study, corporate Bible, corporate church, corporate loving. And then turn around and take that out to the world. Not to make this world, it's not like we're gonna make this world a better world. If we can't, no, that's not what we're trying to, y'all saw up through it in there. Y'all don't know that. That's Diana Ross. No, we're not trying to make this world a better world. If you can't know, we're trying to get people out of this world. That's the whole point. The Bible says, this is Paul speaking, 2 Corinthians 6 verse 14, he says, do not be bound together with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness and lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial? Or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? That's the $64,000 question. But we've got these agents, these pastors that want to marry the two. You've got the Terriannuses who I've listened to. I loved him previously. I never had any sort of feelings or affection for Jamal Bryant, but he's one of these agents. And then there are many others who are just unknown, the William Murphy's of the world. These folks who just, they want to be husband, they want to be relevant and they don't mind. They don't mind using the works of the world to bring you or to introduce you to them. They don't mind that. They don't mind you having a relationship with the world as long as it helps them, it benefits them. These, if you have a pastor that is like that, that cannot call sin when sin should be called out. Because I'm still wondering why some of these pro-black pastors, these Afro-American, these African-American, these colored pastors, why we don't call out the greatest form of racism? Let me just say it again, in case you haven't heard, you can take every black person that died in the slave trade. You can take every black person that was lynched. You can take every black person or white person that died in the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World War I, World War II, Korean War of Vietnam, put them all together, combined, combined. And you still don't have the number of people that have been killed as compared to the number of black babies that have been aborted. If we're looking for some, if one time our black lives mattered, those lives should matter. If we wanna look at where people are being assaulted, look at the black woman's womb. Doesn't sound bad to say that, the black woman's womb. But when it's a 40-some percent likelihood that you might be aborted, we got a problem there. Because someone is peddling this to us. The enemy is telling us it's okay to live how we want to, and the Bible says it's different. Now this cuts across racial lines, because if you also have, there are white churches that are extremely progressive. If your church is progressive and not biblical, leave it. You have an unbiblical passion. The reason why I'm bringing this up with the black church is because we're seeing it more and more. There was a time where we seem to have been moving away from it. Where we seem to be gravitating away from that, but it's back, it's back. When we heard Jeremiah write, we clutch the pearls, but no, it's back, it's back. And the problem is, people are not finding Christ. They're finding a government program. They're finding a march. They're finding some other sort of political program. That's the problem. Because if God is God in your home, then you're gonna have married couples. You're gonna have mothers and fathers together. I can promise you, fellas, she won't trip if she knows that God is in your heart. She won't, you think she's acting up and talking and nagging, but if she sees you to be the godly man that you're supposed to be, I promise you, things get better. And vice versa. Children love being in a godly household. They do. Even when things don't go their way, they understand things happen. But when they got a godly mother and godly father that are going through the things they see, they learn how to deal with life because they see mom and daddy dealing with life from a godly standpoint. And then when they turn around and go to a church where the pastor is not reflective of that, mom and daddy, why are we here? Why are we here? I can promise you, no, I can't, I don't have a large sentence to say so, but I've seen so many of these churches like that and I've seen the divorce rate in some of these churches and the teenage pregnancy rate in some of these churches. There's a lot of it in some of these churches that I know. We talked about this, this was 20 years ago, when we looked at some of the churches, because we did a little survey in the city to look at which churches, about teenage pregnancy in some of the churches in Dallas. And what we noticed was, wait a second, look at his church. That church, that church, that church. There's some commonalities in these churches. We sing these songs. Some of us know about when we sing songs that tend to be more, the song can be either vertical or horizontal. Horizontal is about me. God has blessed me. God is gonna do this for me. God is gonna give me this. God, you've seen me through, you've made a way. Nothing wrong with praising God for making a way. Nothing wrong with God blessing you. But the better songs are God, you're awesome. I love you, Lord, you're a holy God. Whether or not you do anything for me, you are awesome, you're amazing. Those are the vertical songs. And we have seen oftentimes in our churches, particularly a lot of our black churches, where our worship is, Lord, it's horizontal. You're doing things for me. You'll bless me. You'll get me out of the, bring me out of the storm. Those are the kind of songs that have kept us bound because it keeps us focusing on things instead of focusing on him. And if your pastor is that way, you, my friend, have an unbiblical pastor, meaning you have an unbiblical church. Because God did not come to give you, you ever heard of the song? What song God has, God has, I'm trying to think of a song, but a little rain, God has not promised to give you sunshine, but a little rain, a little pain, mixed with, I was singing the song the other day. Somebody helped me out. Some of you Afro-Americans who know this song, I'm trying, who sings that song? God has not, I can't think of a dog on the song. Somebody helped me out with that. You know what? This live stream is not, be grateful. Thank you, Lisa. Thank you, Lisa. Be grateful. She beat you to it, Seiko. She's clearly more God-like than you. Yeah, be grateful. Those were, that's how we were coming out. Those were the kind, look, he wants a, he wants to warm up everybody. Jermaine Hawkins show off. That's why that man hung up on you. That's why he hung up on you. He knew who was on the other end. Maybe one of us, show enough Christians should have called him. Yeah, Walter Hawkins, that's who it is. You said Jermaine Hawkins. Thank you, Robert. Thank you. Thank you. Walter Hawkins, thank you. Walter Hawkins, not you, Seiko, you messed up. But in all seriousness though, if you have a real right relationship with the Lord and you go to them, it will not take you long at all to discern that these people don't speak for you. And the reason why they don't speak for you is because they don't speak for God. And if they don't speak for God, say this one time, I can't even find, fine. She's sung it. Let's do this, let's do this. So petty with a little hat. You just had to get that in. Just had to get that, oh, fine, she sung it. I'm gonna go check and verify because you might be wrong again. But the point is though, guys, avoid these kind of churches. Avoid these kind of pastors. When you see a march, a civil rights march and your pastor's there, my suggestion is you might want to leave. You know why you might want to leave? Because while he's there, who's at church? Who's turned into the flock? Who's out there, this is why, say what you want to say about Martin Luther King, Jr. This is why he is and was a horrible pastor. The same reason why a TDJX is also. Because you can't be a pastor or a shepherd and spend that much time away from the flock. That's your, you got one job. You got one job and you can't do that. You are to tend to the flock. Marching, gallivanting, doing all these different things. You can't. I come to hear, I'm visiting your church in half a time, you're never there. Why, because you're working on a movie deal, you're out meeting someone at some conference. Uh-oh, uh-oh, we got some tension. We got some tension. We got, thank you, Mona. I agree, I don't even know if you're right or wrong. I'm gonna assume you're right and say it goes wrong. Lynette Hawkins sang it. Yeah. Yes, they go. That's what you give a typing in. That's what you give a typing in. That's probably why the man, that's why the man hung up on you. Oh, kid, I'm having fun. I'm having fun now. He left to teach the people how to protest peacefully. What happened as a result of, I don't wanna get too political because I might have a defensive opinion on this, but the progress of blacks in America was skyrocketing at that point prior to the civil rights movement. During and post-civil rights movement, the progress went from here to, and then, so I think this, that, because also, also, guess what also happened? Guess what also happened after post-civil rights movement? Black church attendance began to wane. Black church attendance, look it up, began to wane. You know, the one thing that we could at least hang our hat on as a commuter. Now, I'm not saying everybody went to church was safe. I'm not saying that at all, but if you're constantly going to church, it's a good chance you might hear the gospel. If you're constantly going to church, even if you're doing it religiously, it's a good chance you might hear the gospel. And not if you go to their church, not if you go to Jamal Bryan's church, it's a good chance you might not hear the gospel. But in general, on average, if you go to a church, it's a good chance they might have a Bible. Not the kind of Bible that Laurie Lightfoot had where it read, there's a Romany, not that kind where you invite lesbian mayors who are pro-abortion, pro-LGB. No, not that kind of church. But more than likely, more than likely, if you go to a church long enough, you're probably gonna pick up the Bible and read and hear some Bible. That's one of the one things that the black community could have hung its hat on. But like every other community, we have divested ourselves from God and went to government. That is what's happened. I don't wanna get onto what's happened with our affinity with government and replacing God with government. But, and you know what? I like that whole idea of drain the swamp, the problem is, if you drain the swamp, you're gonna fill it back up with some more crooks. And so if, you're right, you're right Monica, but you know what? You're also gonna, governance there are answer. And so when pastors, when preachers are pointing that way towards government or towards social experiments and governmental philosophies and things like that, leave that church. Find your comfort in the Lord. Because again guys, I can promise you this, it's getting worse. Anybody over 30 can tell you his worsen was when I was 20. Anybody 40 can tell you his worsen was when I was 30 and 20. 50 say, you look back is bad. It's gonna get bad. And the solution is not in God. The solution is in the whole, I mean it's not in government. The solution is in a brand new world where God is the head. Amen. Amen.