 As you, Pereira, thank you for your time. We might begin by having you tell us a little bit about your background. Well, my whole life has been 24 years of struggle for our national liberation. When Indonesia invaded East Timor, I was a student in Portugal. And subsequent to that, we all made a decision to pursue the freedom of our country first and the degree later. And we never realised it would last 24 years. We thought at that time, 18 years of age, I thought it was just a couple of months. But it went on and on for a quarter of a century. And we lost our youth in the struggle for freedom. And thanks God we achieved that. Has it got any easier? Has it got any better? Well, the achievement of independence is almost a miracle for us because we had the conviction that justice had to prevail. But we always knew that it's a small, tiny island between two giants, Indonesia and Australia, and both agree with our integration. So we really had a high mountain to climb. But achieving the summit was close to a miracle. One of the powerful things that you bring to this conference is that you sit on the other side of the fence from the military and the police, from the policy makers. What do you think are the powerful messages that need to be imparted in a forum like this? Well, first it's good because we are speaking about success. So it's not failure. And building peace in East Timor so far, eight years of age, a nation state, two years transition from the United Nations in 2002, but it has been successful. And therefore it's very important to reflect on the reasons for the success so we can sustain the future without failures. And being here and reflecting from the perspective also of the Australian experience, it's actually a double value in a way because Australian intervention since 1999 has been crucial in terms of stabilization of the country, also overall international community's intervention. And second point is that after the quarter of the century of war, our people really reached the war fatigue mode. We don't want conflicts in war anymore. And that's the underlying factor of success that our people want peace. But building peace is not a static thing. It's a progressive and aggressive process because people want peace but also wants prosperity, wants national development, wants equity, wants social justice, wants jobs. So it's a piece that has to be conceived as a very dynamic and aggressive process. You need to really deal with the consequences of policies, consequences of development. You have what some call development syndrome that the more the country grows, the more demand you create. And therefore that's really a very serious responsibility for the government and I'm in government so it's part of my responsibility. Do you think in the case of East Timor there was enough attention given to the people on the ground? Well it has been, since this government took over, this is the fourth constitutional government in eight years. Dialogue has been a prerogative. Our Prime Minister has just completed a tour to the whole country, to all the sub districts of the country. It took him months and months meeting with the people on the ground, sitting on the ground with the people, listening to them to produce 2011 budget which we have submitted to the parliament. And therefore consultation is really of paramount importance because pre-empting conflict is about inclusionary policies, is about bringing people truly into the process of development, not just ideological approach to people but it's really listening to the people, understanding the expectations and managing it. And in that sense in the last three years have been very successful. It appears then that managing expectations is such an enormous challenge, would you agree? Yes, first of all, our situation is very unique. When I think about South Africa for instance, when we started our national reconciliation process, South Africa, the former enemy still is within. East Timor, the enemy left the country. So we have the hot potato if you like. In our hands we need to manage and flourish it. And therefore managing the expectations of the people is also understanding how much our people have given so far to the country, to free the country. And being a country that is majority living in poverty, less than one dollar a day, in spite of this poverty, our people gave the best they have to free the country. And therefore we need to nurture this as an asset. And we build into our politics, national politics this in-depth ingredient of honesty with our people. Don't promise things that you cannot deliver. And never promise things that our people don't want it for now. But listen to them what they need right now and invest as much energy and resources into it to make sure that our people feel that the core of the centre of sacrifice has been worthwhile. Well we have a forum here now where you have the decision makers, the policy makers. What is your advice to them? Is there a pearl of wisdom from someone like yourself? Well I think it's taken people seriously because when you make policies you affect the livelihood of people. And you have to really be conscious that unless you affect it positively you can actually deliver conflict. And that's very important. In a state like ours, eight years old, very embryonic, that law and order, the force of coercion and suppression of people's divergence from the government policy are not there. The richness of the country is dialogue, is communication, is interaction. It's politicians and the community merging together so that it constantly provides the necessary legitimacy to the government, to the leaders, to make decisions on their behalf that are not necessarily legally enshrined but politically legitimate because people see that the decisions have really been made on our behalf because it really affects our life positively. What would you like East Timor to have achieved in three years time? In the next three years we want to make sure that the phasing out of United Nations is as successful as possible. As the SRG spoke eloquently this morning and I share her optimism, I think we will manage that very successfully. We'll be an example through the region about building democracy. But a democracy that is not belligerent, not adversarial, but is inclusionary. It's one that looks at people's and political parties as a very important asset of democracy, not as instruments to control power. Ajú Pereira, thank you so much for your time.