 Welcome to the Tuesday, January 22nd meeting of the Montalier Design Review Committee. I will ask members and staff to introduce themselves. Hannah Smith. Martha Smurski. Meredith Crandall. Staff. Stephen Everett. Eric Gilbertson. Seth Mitchell. For anybody who has not been here before, we are advisory to the Development Review Board. We will review the applications and move them forward to either administrative approval or to the Development Review Board. And do I hear a motion to approve the agenda? So moved. I second it. Second. All in favor of the agenda, raise your hands. And we can go straight to the first application, 158 Main Street. I do. Come up and have a seat. It's pretty straightforward. I adapted my, so I live in a condo association. We're doing a big capital improvement with roof and chimney and furnace and everything. And they're doing exterior painting. Oh, like they can't hear me? Well, no, it's records. I mean, it is right near her. It wasn't close enough. It's got to be right next to her. Okay. Is that better? Ask him. Because he can see what the, what it's like. All right. How's that? Is that better? Yes. Thank you. Don't make me sing a little deaf, not hard. So I proposed to my condo association that I changed colors based on not white. That's it. Not white. And so I came down and asked Audra how that procedure worked and what were some color options. And they don't disapprove a lot. So I went to Benjamin Moore and just chose from their historic exterior paints, this palette that I liked, which are these. It's nothing crazy. It's beige. Okay. And that's the trim and the lattice. That's the body. And because I have a new porch deck, so they're going to, I read and they're going to paint my porch per our architects and our whole thing. So I want a darker version of that. I don't want a gray. I want it to match. Okay. And I have a new porch deck, which you probably can see. They rebuilt the lattice. So that's going to be the trim. And my door is pretty much this color now. Which is black. No, it's a green. That green, this color. It's there. I have that new door. That's an existing. So that's where I chose this from. And I checked in with a friend of mine who's an interior designer and said, what do you think of these colors? And she said, those are great colors for blending in and resale and historic. So that's pretty much where I came up with them. And the painting is not happening until spring. I know. I just want to make sure I don't have to go through to write. Everybody knows that nobody's painting. So I'm happy to pass these around if anybody needs to see a closer look. And the darker color would just be the porch. Just the porch deck. Okay. Right. And the rest, the lattice of the porch is this color. In the trim. Okay. Right. Stephanie, you said this is unit one. Isn't the whole building being painted? I'm a unit. I wrote unit one because it's a condo association. It's only my, I'm a single family two-story house. Mm-hmm. So it's just me. Oh. Okay. Right. But it's the whole house is being painted then. Correct. Yeah. Right. But I'm technically unit one like for mailing and everything like that because I'm an association. So just for clarification. It was you get closer to your project and you look at your paint samples and then you get a sample of the paint, paint a section of the wall. And sometimes the actual color depending on location exposure may look a little different than the chip. Yeah, for sure. Just in terms of shading. Yeah. So you can always go, for instance, if it looked lighter and you thought that really like a little darker, they came to do what they call a plus 50. They had 50% more pigment. Right. And let's say that I wanted to do that or go lighter. Do I need to double check? No. Everybody good with like these shades of these? That's fine. I think it's great you're eliminating building covered with white. With white. Yes. And our clump of whites. Yes. But there are two reasons for doing that. Number one, if the actual paint looks a little lighter than your chip, you may want to go darker only because you're on a main travel street. And the dust level is very high. Okay. And white houses often, if you see them after a few years, they're freshly painted. Right. After a few years, they look dirty. Right. Well, that's one of the main reasons. Yes. Also, Eric, because I've been in a clump of white houses. Mm-hmm. And if they're repainting, I'm like, there's no reason why to not make this look better. Yes. Like there's like zero reason why we can't make it look better. And like, but that's good advice. Thank you. Yeah. When the time comes. You can buy a little sample of it. Sometimes the actual paint, you'll have that sample of like the look of the order of the paint is worth trying. Yeah. Absolutely worth it. Yeah. And again, you can play with that. Right. And again, you can do a plus 50 or whatever you need to get the actual shape you're looking for. Yeah. These colors will height dust better than white. Yes. Much better. Right. Right. And if the building in front of me, I don't know, like they're painting that too, whether they're going to ask for like shutters being changed. I don't know. I'm sort of in charge of our own. I'm in charge of my own space. Because you don't have any shutters on your building? No. No. Nor is there plan to add shutters. That's it. Any other comments, questions, suggestions of any kind? Go for it. That's fine. You're ready. There's a set of criteria. I'm just going to read through them. Okay. Number one, preservation or reconstruction of the appropriate historic style of the proposed projects in the historic district where it involves an historic structure, acceptable, harmony of exterior design with other properties of the district, acceptable, compatibility of proposed exterior materials, acceptable, compatibility of proposed landscaping not proposed in this application, prevention of the use of incompatible designs, buildings, color schemes are exterior materials, acceptable, location and appearance of all utilities, no changing in the outside utilities, lighting or anything. Okay. Not applicable. Recognition of and respect for view quarters and significant visitors including gateway views of the city and state house and acceptable. And I'll make a note here that at your option, the, I just said the chosen body color may be darker and the same tents to match the tent of the courtyard presented if necessary at the time of painting. All in favor of the application. Raise your hand. Okay. All right. Administrative permit will probably issue it tomorrow. Okay. And then when it comes time, I'll just post the permit in the window or you'll post the permit when you get it in the mail. Oh, okay. Because it's the, when we send it to you, you post your note of your permit. Oh, okay. On the window because it's the appeal period, the 15D appeal period is from the time of issuance of the permit. Okay. So you have to notify your neighbors. Gotcha. And we'll, there'll be instructions. Oh, okay. In the power of two. Perfect. We'll mail that to you. Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. Thank you. Good luck with your project. Have a chance to look at the January six minutes by your motion to approve unless anybody has any changes to offer. Do I hear a motion to approve? Okay. I move to approve. Second. All in favor of the minutes. Raise your hand. The minutes are approved. Okay. So does anybody have anything else that could be abbreviated? What? Oh, yeah, it's, I mean, I can put more detail in if you want. But it's, I bet I didn't think it was really necessary. I mean, tried to, tried to capture everything he said from a brief way. And we still have the recordings are there indefinitely. Right. And it's tables. So at some point when they come back, we'll just set them in detail depending on the, any changes of the design. Anything else? Don't forget the January 27th public hearing on the new design review. Yeah. Breaks and boundaries. And the boundaries are, they're posted on the internet. Yep. So it's, it's actually larger than it used to be. Well, you can zoom in. And it's a little bit like some of the boundaries are a little bit like a rabbit chase. And taking really sharp corner. In places. In places. Are you here to comment on the design review committee? I was just. Okay. Okay. Thank you. And that's where we're a motion to adjourn. So moved. Second. All in favor of adjournment. Raise your hand. 80 is adjourned. That was quick. That was quick. 15 minutes. Yeah.