 Welcome to the 40's show. We're back again this week to look at the Premier League and a little bit of Champions League in there as well. I think City, if someone are up now, let's be honest, the Premier League is done, isn't it? It looks that way, doesn't it? It doesn't look that way, it is that way. United will still think they've got half a chance of getting there. Do you really think? If that was us, do you think we'd had half a chance? No, no. It's 14 points United have got a game on hand, haven't they? But even 11 points City aren't they? Yeah, they pretty much is done. They roll on. Yeah, so that being said, a lot of the chat is obviously about the top four. Who's going to make that top forward? Leicester winning again. Very, very comfortable winning against Sheffield United. Manchester United obviously got a very narrow winning against West Ham. Chelsea got a draw at Leicester. It leads, sorry, so that's then falting slightly after a very good run. But again, it didn't concede. Obviously West Ham getting beat. Everton got beat. Liverpool won. Spades got beat by Arsenal, but Liverpool won. So the race for that top four, I think, saying that the Chelsea position fourth is still, it's still there, isn't it? It's still ongoing. It's not over and done with at the moment. No, no. Obviously Liverpool were the only team in the top eight. Sorry, chasing those places outside the Chelsea. Five, six, seven. Who'd won full steps? He did. Obviously West Ham, Everton, Spades all lost. Liverpool were the big climbers with that win at Wolves, narrow win at Wolves. So they've got themselves. There's still five points behind Chelsea with nine games to go. Lester winning, United winning, means that Chelsea are the most vulnerable, really, for that fourth spot. But then Chelsea being in great form, they still haven't lost on the social. Again, clean sheets. They played, they beat Everton in the week and then through it leads, so it's on another four points on the board. But that is the one position. West Ham had three points behind them in the game in hand. Everton had five points behind them in the game in hand, so they're still in there. And Spades as well, so it is. That's the one that you're looking at and going. The European place is basically from fourth down to seventh, if that's where it goes, very much up in the air. But the top four is still on for quite a few teams. If they can put a run, a win and run together, they could get in there at Chelsea's expense, maybe. And obviously there's been a lot of talk recently about the big six. So it's become the big six now. We're getting all the chat about super leagues and the Champions League, altered in their numbers, possibly to fend off the super league. But obviously West Ham and Everton are breaking that big six up, aren't they, with Arsenal and Spades completely? No, no, but what I mean is Spades and Arsenal, two of them are behind Everton. So the three teams are breaking up that big six at the moment, or the big six that they're called. I mean it's become this big six, but traditionally it was the big four for years, the Sky Four, because obviously when the Champions League places come in, it helped them push that narrative that it wasn't just about winning the league, it was about getting the four. And now we're starting to get, well, who is the definitive big four? Who are the big four teams in the Premier League? Because a lot of people now are, especially if you're not in the big four at the moment, as in the big four places, you're going to start holding on to something, aren't you? So the lads over on Hold DL, they've been having a chat about it. It's the Sky Sports Super Six YouTube channel, that's available. We're the third most successful club in English history. You only have to look at what we've done over the Premier League era, and even before that, to sum up why you shouldn't even be in this debate, Flav. Arsynfengar, on his own, as manager of Arsenal, has won 475 Premier League games, sorry, 476. Spurs as a club in the Premier League era have won 475. You're not even bigger than Arsynfengar, let alone Arsenal. So DT there, I've always got a colourful opinion, but on that one, he's absolutely right. If you want to watch more of that video, check it out on the Sky Sports Super Six YouTube channel. He's absolutely right. The link is in the description. It is. When it comes to Arsenal, Arsenal, even though where they are at the moment, it's trying to find their way back. They are still in that traditional top four, aren't they? For me, it's Manchester United, it's Arsenal, it's Liverpool, and it's Chelsea. That's still the big four. Out of the Premier League. Out of the Premier League. In terms of numbers, that is the big four. For overall, in the Premier League. Overall, that's the big four. We had a tap before about it. Of points of mass, and everything since the Premier League started. They are the top four, aren't they? You know, they were the sky four. They were the team that was... All of those teams developed because they were on Sky more than anyone else and got extra payments, and they helped them build their squads and all that, but they are anywhere you want to cut it. They had the big four, and Arsenal definitely in there. Arsenal were brilliant. When that's DT set there, Arsenal vingers won more games or got more points than Tottenham, won more games, isn't it, by one, than Spares having the Premier League era, and that's having a dig at Spares. Spares over the last 10 years. Of 50 in the stats, they're still ahead of Manchester City. So, you know, it's... that's the fairest way to do it, really. When you're talking about... people have very shallow memories. People are looking at Arsenal now and go, Arsenal, no. It's a big club, and they are. They're not having a great time at the moment, but they're trying to rebuild with Michael Arteta, but they've still been a fabulous team. They were brilliant to any of them. They were brilliant before the Premier League as a club, and they've been brilliant in the Premier League era. And even though they haven't been as successful as they were, maybe on the wenge, they've still won FA Cups and stuff, haven't they? But that's the problem, though, isn't it? People do have such short memories that winning anything and success is so short-lived that people want to move on to the next thing straight away. And those four, I mean, people... people certainly, like, have had generations to look at Chelsea and go, you're a nothing club, but in the Premier League era, they are. In fact, Chelsea... Chelsea are very, very close to overtaking. Arsenal is the second most successful team in the Premier League, very, very close. You know, if they... if they make this decision, maybe with three extra wins or something, they go above them. And that proves it. Manchester City, like, talking to them, they're fifth, and they've not won it. They are where they are, and Manchester City will need probably three or four seasons to get a couple of seasons maybe to get above them. Manchester City are the thing now, of course they are. And if they keep on this trajectory, I'm sure, into that top four, but it won't be... it won't be yet. I mean, they've only just gone past us. In fact, they've only gone... they're only above us by two points. Do you know what I mean? So that shows you where Manchester City are to be ever the seventh in the all-time... in the all-time Premier League list. It's not that much disrespect. Yeah, it does, it shows, you know, disrespect everything yet, but Manchester City are... you know, it was only this weekend, the weekend just gone that they've gone above us. I mean, so if Everton had been barely, Everton would still be above them. For Arsenal, it's not up for debate. No, it's not up for debate. Not for a long time, and that shows because you've got to look at it. We often say, or Liverpool fans would often say, you know, till this year, about what you've done in the past. So if we City, and we hold on to our record of being the fourth-most league titles, then you've got to pay respect to Arsenal and say, well, Arsenal have done that as well. And at the moment, there's a rebuild on. That doesn't mean that they're not part of that. Arsenal won the third-most league titles. Yeah, and they live pooling, well, United and Liverpool are one more league titles than Arsenal. So you've gone us. We say it as we're the fourth, so until other teams win more than us, we've won it the fourth-most time. So that's why we demand, oh, you know, it's been a hell of a long time, but that's why it's still in a lot of Evertonians' mind that we should be doing better because the record's there for itself. While they're not winning trophies, like Premier Leagues and stuff at the moment, they're still up there now. It depends how much gravitas you want to put on to that all-time league table, because everything's now. Arsenal are FA Cup holders until someone else. I know they're out, but until someone else wins it, they're the last team to win the FA Cup. People shouldn't forget that. They're still in Europe and stuff like that. So you can't disrespect them. You might turn on and go, well, they're not having a great season. You know, we could turn on and go, well, we're at a better side than them at the moment because we're above them. And it's nothing wrong with doing that and teams can say that about, you know, they're having a better season than Liverpool are the champions. Does overall it mean less than a better than Liverpool? Well, this year they are. They might not be next year. They weren't last year. So whatever else you want to put into it, who is generally a huge club and who's generally certainly in the Premier League era done the best, the fourth best teams in the Premier League era, Arsenal are absolutely in there. The numbers prove it. Nothing else matters. The numbers prove it. Whether you say they played amazing football or they were terrible under George Gray or whatever, you know, the numbers prove it. And that's the fact at the end of the day. That's the fact. And, you know, since when they came anyway, so DT is right. They definitely deserve to be in there. Yeah, I think so. I think so. It just shows how short memories can be in football. Make sure to check out the rest of that video over on the Skysport Super 6 YouTube channel. The description is in the link. Back to the Premier League. Obviously you're looking at that. I mean, United. Skreg past. You know, Skreg past West Ham with the cradors and on goal of the weekend and big win for them. They didn't have a great result in Europe against Milan, but big win for them, you know, especially coming in the week where they beat City at the Etihad as well. Two big wins for Solcia. You know, the frustrating thing from an editing perspective is before that weekend we were really close to United and the games and the stuff and they just shows you those six points and now you look at them and go on to comfortably. I'm not saying anything, we're going to finish it above them but you always look at what teams are where and they've moved on to 57 points Leicester, as you've just said. You know, in the Atios first Premier League atre. They despatched it. I mean, just on Sheffield, you could go back to Leicester in a minute because I think they deserve a little bit of praise. Going on to Sheffield United obviously Chris Wilders departed. And it's not it's not because of where Sheffield United are because I think for a long time this season everyone at the club had expected them to be relegated but it's all a tendency of a mess. Clubs are a mess. Clubs are a mess from, you know, what we've led to believe there's so much going on there which is basically tearing the club apart and this is what happens sometimes when you get that little bit of success and everyone jumps in because at the end of the day people probably thought they were going into the Premier League and thought, right, we can build on this and this is where you've got to be very, very careful. You've got to do things in the right way. People look at other clubs, maybe like Norwich and see them bouncing around and it's like, oh, you wouldn't want to be like that but they'll eventually get it right and they'll stick. We've seen that with West Brom the last time they were in the Premier League they stuck around and it's strange, I've thrown it at me. West there? Yeah, it's about digging in. I think I've done maybe off the pitch just to start to grow too quickly and think, like, we're in the Premier League now and that's it. There's a casualty of that where everything should be draped. You know, we've seen one where everything was struggling and we had no money and slightly different circumstances but everything was for David Moyes to push towards him. You're the man in charge, we'll give everything we can and you run everything. Sheffield is delighted it just seems like there's different forces pulling them in different directions. Did they have the victims of their own success last season? Because I think last season a lot of people thought they would be this season if that makes sense. They got promoted, didn't really spend any money and people, I remember Chris Wilder when he got promoted you know, we're going to go and enjoy going and getting hammerings all of these grounds, you know, I'm feel good and old Trafford, like, and he was like having a laugh because he didn't have money to spend and yeah, I don't want to say over the chief because he deserved the points he got because he won the games but he done really well and exceeded people's expectations and obviously then, you're right then other people start going, if we do this and we do that, we can join the Premier League you know, gun chasing Europe and that and it's like you haven't spent the money yet like, slow everything down, you write everything to me should have been pushed through in but then at the same time we have gone out and made some dodgy bars but then people said other people are pulling against it so it's a bit sad I mean, Lester are the one that a lot of teams and you mentioned West Ham there and teams like that Lester are the example you look for because they are very disruptive to that big six they've been great Lester they've bought really well and it's funny because Vardy's sort of gone off a little bit and then the Atos really come to the fore recently so they've found their way out of it I think they'll get that place I really do there's a few weeks ago I was a little bit worried but not worried but you'd look at them thinking they'll drop out it wasn't worried for us because we thought we might be the captain but it looks like obviously Chelsea are in a great position and they're keeping clean sheets but Lester look like they've got the firepower and then they'll get it and obviously if Liverpool miss out that would be huge huge for them but then they're still in the Champions League so you can never say never with Liverpool when they're in the Champions League and obviously at the bottom of the table sheffie knight of the berry sheffie knight of the gun West Brom true with Newcastle Neil Neil didn't he so that's there gone Fulham obviously got beat by Manchester City which is expected so that's still going on goal Newcastle get that point Brighton got a massive win against Southampton Burnley got a big win against Everton so for me now I look at it and I do think it's routine I do think it's routine and Newcastle now for that third place West Brom lost the palace Newcastle was the beat I think West Brom 18 points they're gone it's Fulham you've got 29 games Fulham 26 points Newcastle played 28 they've got 28 points you've got Brighton we're obviously struggling Newcastle got the last minute equalising against Villa Newcastle got themselves a point and then obviously Burnley one of Everton which is a huge win for them because if they would not have won you'd have had Fulham on 26 and Burnley on 30 they'd have never been Burnley so Burnley would have been in it he'd give themselves that little bit of cushion and obviously Southampton have only got 33 as well Brighton won against Southampton the weekend so it's Newcastle Fulham or Brighton isn't it and Fulham had been doing really well up until Saturday but he played City so that's almost a free if for them they've got to be 3-0 City once they've got the goal they're always going to take it apart once they're ahead I think especially a team like Fulham who do try to play football playing to City's hands but it's going to be dead interesting because they are the four teams three four teams in it I thought Fulham Fulham to me still seem like he's got he can get points Brighton that was a not a shock wing because Brighton do play good footy but he just don't score a lot of goals but he got an important win at Southampton and like we said Newcastle got that lady who has it against Villaw it shows that they're still fighting for Bruce so it's going to be dead and we know the final game of the season is Fulham Newcastle so the longer those two teams keep on going in there then who knows what's going to happen who knows what's going to happen Eric Lamellus Rabona by the way in the North London Davies amazing but big win for Arsenal important goals that is a big win that keeps them just in contention doesn't if just in the outside places for I don't think they've got a chance for the champions no they've still got a chance but they're in Europe League as well of course they've had a great win in Europe against the Olympiad so it's going to be dead interesting at what plays out for them now some of the champions of Manchester City comfortably through Real Madrid through as well but City look just look really strong don't they it all seems to be coming together obviously you have a cup tie on Saturday against Devon but it all seems to be coming together they seem to be getting they've got a guero back now as well you score this first goal in that full-on game and they just seem to be coming together at the right time sometimes at this stage the season it's starting to get a little bit ragged they've obviously still got the league cup final as well to come against space so that might alter the you know might put a little bit more pressure on the league but then the league should be done and dusted by then you would imagine so by getting wrapped up so early they can get it wrapped up nice and early they're not going to have to worry about that fix the congestion with the Premier League and with the Champions League because it's all obviously all going to come together quite quickly in the next couple of months you know a cup final the Champions League, Premier League if they're still in the FA Cup we hope not but it's going to be interesting yeah you're right if they can get that sewn up then you can play his second string which is still obviously very strong League of Finals 25 of April so they might have the league so well you'd expect them three more wins I think it is isn't it could have the league done by then and also Champions League negotiating in the FA Cup hopefully they're not still in it but you know if they are if they beat Evan and they are then that's a different thing for them but I think realistically if you said to the FA Cup or the Champions League I don't think you'd be bothered about the FA Cup but everything is good for them I think this season I think they're playing really well I think if they can get a goerau firing a little bit it'll give them that just a little bit they've done it without him they've played at most times this season with our staff, Gabriella Zeus has been in and Staling's got gold you know they get gold in and Gondomans being incredible they're going to dish it scoring goals for funds they just seem to be pareding at the right time and if you keep the brain fit then you're not conceding goals are they well that's the big I mean about 25 cleansies they've just gone past I think there's only Arsenal in 06 now we've had a longer run and not conceding goals in the Champions League they went past last night which broke records as well so I think it's only Arsenal now in 06 when they got to the final they've had a longer run and not letting a goal in the Champions League so from where they were last year where they looked like they could get chased all over the gath you know at the back because obviously they had injuries they didn't replace company, LaPorte was injured and they were struggling at the back and that's what Liverpool took advantage this year with bringing Reuben Diaz in and then that brought John Stones' performance levels up, LaPorte back as well they just looked brilliant at the back I think that's key for any team that wins that they could still win four trophies no problem I think the draw is on Friday for the Champions League we'll find out who gets who and it should be interesting there you go let us know your thoughts and anything we've spoke about what is your big four what is your big four in the Premier League let us know don't forget 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