 Welcome back everyone. The sound is fixed. So we can have the questions first and then we will get into our next chapter. Shani, please go ahead. Oh, hi. So the question that I have, I know that you said is blessed the devil can't touch us. Our finances are health. Yes. So what about when believers have been believes for a long time know all this when they get sick and they bring the sickness on themselves like I say cancer or MS or Graves these stuff like that. How do you explain that in terms of because them getting sick. Yes. Does that mean that the devil, you know, because you devil can't touch, can't touch us, but a lot believers get these illnesses. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So what we're saying is the spiritual reality is that Satan and his demons cannot touch us. In the earlier chapter when we saw the workings of Satan, the methods of workings, we looked at one particular technique or tactic scheme that uses which is called as trespassing. What is illegal is what he does. So legally he cannot enter. But he tries to enter. So the way we would approach sickness when Satan is trespassing is we can evict him. We can get him out. Now for whatever reason for maybe there's a small opening of some sort in that believer's life due to a false confession or a false belief or some dedication, you know, something. There's some reason why there's an entry point and Satan trespass through it. And I recognize that as a believer, it's very simple. I just have to take authority, shut evict him, shut that entry point. So we can deal with that like that. Sometimes we recognize that he has, he has, you know, like entered and he's causing some issues. And that brings us awareness that, okay, there is some area in our lives which we still have to firm up. Okay, so does that make sense, Shani? Yes, I guess what you're saying is that if a believer who has faith in different things like that and who gets, because I hear about different pastors who are in terms of faith pastor, different things like that. And so people who get believers who get like these illnesses that are not brought on by themselves is some kind of entry point in their life that they have that allowed it. So what about if somebody got the sickness as a child, like when they're seven or eight, you can't say that a seven or eight year old brought that into their life because they're seven or eight. Okay, so yeah, yes, yes, yes, so I would strongly recommend for you to go and look up a video which we recently did in the mentoring hour and it's titled suffering. Okay, so what are the reasons for suffering that people go through and sickness comes in that category? You see, our understanding is that Satan has trespassed. There can be so many different reasons why Satan trespassed in that particular issue, right? We're not blaming the people. See, the last thing we must do is to say, oh, it's a faith problem. You have a faith problem. You don't have enough faith. We know that in the past in the Christian, in the Christian, what do we call it, like Christian circles or in various movements, people have done that. People have blamed believers for not having enough faith or doing something else that has caused the sickness that has caused the problem in your life, but that's not the right approach. In certain situations, we can clearly tell that, hey, this is the reason why such and such a person is sick, but there can be so many other reasons and sometimes we don't find the reason, Shani, and that's a reality. And for that, I just want to state this scripture. It is in Deuteronomy 29-29 where it says, the secret things belong to the Lord. See, there can be instances where there are godly people very strong in the word to the best of their knowledge and ability they are following God, but something untoward happens in their lives. And we're not able to point to anything and say, oh, it was a faith problem. It was a confession problem. It was this problem. Nothing. We're not able to point to anything and say, hey, what exactly went wrong? Why did this good believer or this pastor experience this in their lives? You see, the Bible also says that there are certain things that Deuteronomy 29-29 says, the secret things belong to the Lord. Sometimes we ask the question, God, why did it happen? Tell me, maybe we want to receive an answer, maybe. There are things that have happened in our lives and we're wondering, how did it happen? How could it happen when I'm in faith? And we may not receive an answer to those questions also because maybe for God, he thinks it's not necessary for you to know. And we need to be okay with that. As children of God, as believers, as human beings, we may not get to know everything and we should be okay with that. My relationship with God should not become weak because I'm not able to understand why this happened in my life. So that is something that we have to develop. Yes, there will be things we won't understand why it happened. But as Deuteronomy 29-29 says, the secret things belong to the Lord. After some time, you just have to let it go. Okay, I'm not able to understand how this could have happened in my life. But God, I let it go. You are still good. You are still faithful. You are a redeemer. You will redeem my time, my opportunity, my blessings. You will redeem it. I believe that. So I'm going to forget about the past. I'm going to forget about this thing. Whatever I know from the word, I'll hold on to it and I will keep moving forward. So that's the attitude we need to carry. So to be able to live with the unknown, Shani, that's my point. There are unknowns and our faith should be such that even if there are unknowns, we must be so strong in the Lord where we say, okay, I don't understand, but it's okay. Does that help a bit? Yeah, I guess. I mean, that helps, but I just kind of sometimes wonder about like, you know, if the devil can't touch us in terms of children, why are children like raped and murdered, things like that? Because the devil can't touch us. I think children, I don't know about children cover. I kind of have questions about that too, like, especially if they have parents who are believers. Yeah, yeah. So I think it would be case by case. If we are just trying to explain why it happened to them. And we really have to seek the Lord and then look at how that could have happened. But in a broader understanding, you know, we live in a corrupted world and so certain things happen sometimes even to good believers. Okay, thank you. Yeah, sure. Thank you so much. Kofi, you could go next, please. I think my question has been answered. So thank you. All right. All right. Yeah, glad to hear that. That's wonderful. Yes, yes, Brother Sanjay. Yeah, first I just wanted to add something to what Shanu was sharing about why, in a way it's like, why do bad things happen to good people? And so when you mentioned that we live in a fallen world, and so this is more of a fruit of the fallen nature of man or sin. It's more of a fruit of sin. And we've seen across all over the world, irrespective of where you live or irrespective of from the beginning of time till date, we have seen how sin has been playing out since the beginning of time and how we, if the wages of sin are death, I mean, that speaks volumes. But the fact that we're still alive today is something to be thankful and grateful to God. One thing. The second thing I'd like to just add is like in this world, if there were no consequences for sin, if everything was like very normal and happy, then most people will be diverted and they'll be given to the things of this world. The fact that we see unexplained things happen like sickness, disease, deaths, little children being harmed or people's lives being taken away at a very early age, we see all these things. It's more of a wake-up call for us to turn towards God and turn away from the world. What happens if we don't see these things happening? Our focus will be more into the things of this world. We'll get too distracted. So in a way, it's a wake-up call for everyone. It's a wake-up call and nobody's waking up. In a way, God is screaming out at the top of his voice. This is not our home. This is not where we belong. We belong to another kingdom. We belong to the kingdom of heaven. But yet people are so caught up in this world and caught up in the things of this world that God just has to wait for people to wake up. That's all I wanted to add. Thank you, brother Sanjay. It's true that it's a wake-up call but the world has been like this since the inception. So there's a wake-up call every day since then till today and just to kind of reiterate that God is not causing it to happen or making it happen or pushing the consequences on the world. It's just that there are consequences. Actions have consequences. I can't put my hand in the fire and say, how can it get burnt? That would be a silly question because if anybody does that, the property of the fire is it will burn. There are consequences and we make in this world in that way because Adam and Eve opened the door to sin. I'm not talking about personal sin of every human being known. That sin that came into the world and corrupted the world, that has already happened. That's the consequence. It's so sad that we see sickness, disease, calamity, floods, earthquakes, all kinds of natural disasters. Sometimes we see evil things happening to people. We see wars. We see little children being born with deformities. What did they do to be born like that? We asked the question, how can this happen? That's what I'm saying when I'm saying it's a corrupted world. It's a fallen world. That sin that corrupted, it exists. That is why we are learning about authority. We can exercise our authority and all these things. We can exercise our overcoming power. Whichever is the work of Satan, we do away with it. I do understand that in some situations, we may not see a transformation. Just do what you know to do. The best example that I can think of, I know some parents who have special children. There's a lot of improvement in the children, but still sometimes there are struggles as the kids are growing up. They are not ordinary kids. They can't go to regular schools. There are so many difficulties that the parents are facing. Are they believing God for healing? Are they believing God for the child to get better? Of course, they are very good believers, strong believers, exercising authority, everything. But even then, in such a situation, when you see that the child is needing help, what is the best thing that we can do? We should do what we know to do, to love them, to care for them. Sickness is supposed to be healed. But when somebody is still sick and we don't know why they are sick, what can I do? I can help. I can take care. I can be a blessing. I can do what I know to do. I think as believers, let's do that. I know there are situations where we struggle. If we have authority, why is this still happening? Let's do what we know to do in those situations. Don't stop praying for healing. Don't stop praying for transformation, change, healing. Don't stop. Well, it's not manifesting the way we want it. What can we do? Do what is right. Be a blessing. Speak life, help, support. So that is something we can do. Yes, Shani, please go ahead. Okay, so I just want to make sure, because I know that it's God's will to heal. In the Bible, Jesus healed everybody. So you are saying that even if somebody has been praying for somebody or a child that has been sick for a long time, it is God's will to heal them. But even though they haven't seen the healing manifest, or maybe a little bit to keep just having faith, because eventually one day the person will get healed, because Jesus healed everybody in the Bible. And this God's will to heal all. Is that what you're saying? Yes, that's what I'm saying. Okay, thank you. Yeah, sure. Thank you. All right. Yeah, this is a good class. Interaction is always good, keeps us awake. So really thankful to all of you. Please bring those questions. That's what we learn. Isn't it? We learn, we look, we try to look at things with different perspectives. Okay, makes us also sharper. So, so far we've understood the foundation of our... Yes, yes, Nelson. Nelson has something to ask. Ma'am, through Christ, do we have authority and power? So any specific thing that all testament people have Okay, did they have authority? Right? Yes, so they had authority, but not the kind of authority that we carry. So all authority Jesus gave us, right? Over demons, sickness, and the power of the enemy, after he redeemed us. But before that, did people have authority? You see, in general, yes, people had authority. Now the people of God, you could say, had authority also because of the blessings. God blessed them and gave them, you know, certain... He spoke over their lives. So they had a certain capacity of authority, okay, for victory. But what we would say is, the level of authority wouldn't be like how we have. We believers under the new covenant, under the old covenant to some extent, yes, they could have exercised authority, but not full. Good question. Yeah, thank you. All right. Yes, yes, Shan, please go ahead. Okay, I'm not able to hear you. Could you please unmute? I'm sorry. So I just kind of piggyback. So can you give example in terms of you had authority about how they exercised it? I was kind of not understanding how they exercised their authority in the old testament. So they had authority and how did they exercise? See, I can only think of, I mean, right now, I can think of Jehoshaphat, right? Like Jehoshaphat when they had to go against an enemy army. They worship God, they send the Ark of the Covenant ahead of the, you know, like with praise, they sent the Ark of the Covenant in second chronicles, chapter 20. So that's a way of exercising authority. So what happened? The enemy was overcome because of praise, because of worship. We can look at Joshua, you know, blessed by God, commissioned by God. Here is a man and a people who are marching and the walls come down. That is a symbol of exercising authority. Enemy territory is conquered. So in this manner, Shani, based on the commissioning of God, the blessing of God, we do see victories, isn't it? Okay, you understand now. Yes. Yeah. Yes, Kofi. Yeah, I'll just add to what you just said. I think because of the authority of Jesus Christ, now we, the Gentiles, can also exercise that authority. In the olden days, the Gentiles had no authority to exercise in the name of God. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, that's very true. That's very true. So for the Gentiles, it's only after Jesus gave it to us that the Gentiles can exercise, right? So we are, you know, the Jews, the Gentiles, and we are people of the utmost parts of the earth. But today we can also exercise authority because of what Jesus has done. We're all included and that is the powerful reality. Okay, thank you. Yes. Thank you so much. Let's then move on to the next chapter here, which is chapter seven, which helps us understand the realms where we can exercise our authority. Can we exercise authority however we like? Actually, no. There are certain realms where our authority is effective and it works. So we need to understand that. Okay. And that's what we will cover in this chapter. We have seen in history people who have exercised authority and who have seen wonderful, wonderful miracles of God. Now sometimes you read about all these generals of God when we started our course here in fall semester. For the on-campus students, we took us through God's generals and we looked up the lives of people and then we examined their lives very, very realistically. You know, the good things, the bad things and how we can learn from their lives. But when we consider the good part, you know, the way they moved in the authority of God, the way they overcame sickness, disease, we saw this one particular minister of God those days, like today we have, you know, live class and people are sitting in other countries and listening to what is being taught in a different country. So it's all happening today. But when we consider some of these old ministers of God, one particular minister those days, apparently through telegraph, he used to send prayer for healing. So can you imagine, can you imagine? Requests come to the ministry and just one line or a few words, be healed in Jesus' name. Telegraph, okay. But people used to get healed. Can you imagine people exercising authority like that? Amazing miracles, stories of amazing miracles because somebody sent a telegraph, be healed in Jesus' name or something small like that. So we've seen in history people who have used their authority, okay. And I'm not saying we should copy them or it'll work exactly the same way. So you do it the same way. Sometimes we see practices which are not very good, things like, you know, people got so angry with sickness and disease, they hit the person who's sick because they were actually hitting the demon, I believe. But they hit the person who's sick, right. But we understand better now that we don't really have to do that to be violent against a human being because they are sick or they are demon possessed. We should not do that, okay. So there are all these things that we can look at but the key is authority was exercised. Many real stories. One particular minister of God I remember and I just cannot forget. I used to listen to... His books have been read out by someone. He was not a great writer. So they've been read out. Like the version... Someone else wrote the book, the stories and it's been read out. So I used to listen to it again and again and again. All the miracles. So one miracle goes something like he went to a home and a child was very, very sick and he was a man of faith. So he said, don't worry, we'll pray. So when he started praying he felt that he needs to pray alone. We wouldn't recommend all this. So I'm not telling you to do this. Please, before I state the story I'm telling you. But he felt that way and he told the family I'm going to be alone with this very sick child. Like the child can die anytime. That was the situation. So he decided he will pray the whole night with the child and the story goes something like somewhere in the midnight when he was praying for the child he carried the child and the child died in his arms. Can you imagine? You're alone, you came to do ministry you're praying for the child to be healed child dies in your hands. What will happen tomorrow? So crazy, isn't it? But you were such a man of faith he didn't give up. He prayed and prayed and prayed the dead child came back to life. In the morning the child was fully healed alive he gave the child to his parents and came back. And his ministry is marked by resurrection of the dead. Good number of resurrections in his ministry. How is that possible? We ask. All these are real stories in the past. Some of which have many witnesses and some of which have been verified. People were exercising authority like this. We may have our own stories from our families, from our churches where people have exercised authority and it is possible to see victory over sickness disease demons and all of that. So the question is can we do that? Yes, of course we can do it. But we have to understand where that authority works and where that authority will not work. That will also be helpful when we exercise our authority. So there are these stories and I would just encourage us to go back to some of these stories from history and just listen listen and see what experiences people have had what was right, what was not right how could we do that better so that we too can work in the authority and if you are not the kind who wants to read those stories so many instances Jesus healing the sick you know Jesus casting out demons, he is our ultimate pattern our example. So repeat, repeat, keep reading keep reading, keep reading Jesus healing Jesus coming the storm Jesus doing this, multiplying the bread the supernatural works he took authority and it worked in his life. So today the expectation that we have to build is I can also see God's authority work through my life and it will help to understand where it works so the first one is our authority works against Satan and all his demons and we have already you know talked a lot about it right we can exercise our authority against demons but some other points that we want to make right now one is to not become very demon conscious ok don't become very demon conscious exercising authority against demons is a good thing but you know when we start crediting Satan and demons to everything that is going wrong for example if you take a little child let's take a 3 year old child ok and the child is so naughty the child is destroying everything in the house and pushing things around and doing all these things would it be right for us to say oh this kid is demon possessed the demon of disruption is working in this 3 year old child what would you say to a statement like that then why is the child even doing all these works mischief why is this child doing all these works must be a demon a demon is behind the activities of this child it's so unreasonable to say that it's a 3 year old I mean this is a 3 year old child you can't expect anything else from a 3 year old child so the point is let's see not everything is a demon when we become demon conscious then what happens we start blaming demons for everything the bulk got fused oh it must be a demon the demon doesn't want me to study bulk is gone I'll cast it out in jesus name please bulk just change the bulk that's all so that way it's when we become so demon conscious that we'll see a demon in everything that's not a good place to be that's actually wrong because we have gone off balance we've become very demon conscious and we are seeing a demon in every situation so yes cast out let's cast out demons we know that Jesus said you will trample on serpents and scorpions nothing by any means shall harm you so we have authority over demons but I should not go trying to cast out demons that don't exist okay so that's the point so when I'm exercising my authority against demons I've got to be I've got to gauge is it really a demon if it's a demon try to cast it out if there is no demon then fix the situation the way it should be fixed okay so that is how we would do this so all all believers can cast out demons but firstly we've got to identify that there is a demon now what do demons do or what are some of the demonic works are sicknesses diseases because we see Jesus working against this isn't it so Jesus opposed his enemy satan and all the works of the enemy whenever he saw sickness disease what did Jesus do he healed okay he passed out demons obviously Jesus is working against his enemy satan and we know scriptures tell us in one John chapter 3 verse 8 that Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil so Jesus is destroying sickness and disease where is sickness and disease from simple maths this is equal to that that is equal to this what is equal to what where is sickness and disease from satan okay so sickness and disease is from satan so whenever we say things like God has given the sickness so that I can become better or God has given the sickness so that I can become mature you don't find any basis to that in scripture how can God who takes away sickness also give sickness it wouldn't make sense right like God has to decide either you give it or you take it we notice him only taking it away how can we say that God is giving the sickness so that I can become more mature I can get more understanding I can have a closer walk with the Lord that does not have basis God does not give sickness and disease okay more about sickness disease I would refer you to one book which again you know has written ministering healing and deliverance in detail it is there the basis of our trust in God our faith in God that he is the healer how can we say that does God always want to heal answer is yes it's explained in the book just that we don't have time to get into this so point again that we are making is sickness disease are demonic works so we can take authority over demonic works what what did we say earlier firstly identify what is demonic everything is not demonic after we identify then go against it then we are saying sickness and disease is demonic works okay then situations there can be certain situations where Satan is trying to slow us down he's trying to hinder us he's trying to cause confusion he's trying to cause you know some form of disturbances and quarrels many different things where things are disorderly that also can be caused by Satan because it's working against the purposes of God what God wants to do obviously Satan will do opposite to that he's bringing delay and trying to stop it then we could see influences of demons in many aspects so firstly in the lives of individuals people so when we are ministering to people and we see some demonic influence in their lives I have the authority to to destroy that okay I can either cast it out or bind it or you know declare the word tear it down so how to help people that we will see later but broadly now demonic works we said sickness disease in circumstances it can be influences over people that also we can take authority over and we can destroy the works of the devil then we have world systems world systems means political system business system we we've already discussed this right when we see influences we can pray we can make declarations or we can do certain things that will change that system and you know make it a more godly system so we can exercise our authority in that area maybe take up for example just I'm just saying take up entertainment entertainment industry these days there's so much happening not I mean television is gone nobody even looks at the television it's all about you know entertainment on demand so people are watching YouTube and Netflix and all these things but we see so many ungodly things ungodly standards we see things that are influencing people in the wrong way then when we identify these things we recognize it's not from God how do we overcome people pray that entertainment will become cleaner that it will have godly influence yes so we can pray we can declare we can also have people godly people go into that field imagine if people start coming up with better scripts okay stories that are filled with hope stories that are telling people the right information what to do then it comes to education relationships marriage career it will be such a blessing if gods gods power can take over the arena of entertainment it's like that so every arena even business and I stated politics entertainment arts okay if there are pictures that people create or you know art pieces that people create that is influenced by the spirit of God it will bring healing it will bring blessing hope to people so in all these ways we as believers can exercise authority okay so there are many different ways in which we can actually make it happen but the point is we have to influence so all of us may be called in different fields maybe some of you are in the field of music some of you are in some other field but exercise your authority to whatever capacity and make a difference so we find that godly people in ages past have influenced their generation and you know their their situation for example if you take Joseph okay in the bible there was a famine do you all know that story yes of course so think about it there is a huge famine and nations of people will die if there is no food but the leadership of Joseph we read how god gave him wisdom in the season of plenty learn to store properly in the season of lack give it distribute it properly so people from other nations started coming to Egypt because of Joseph's influence isn't it so what does that tell us there is a circumstance caused by Satan which is you know famine and death in people's lives but a child of god is exercising authority doing the right thing and it saved so many lives so you could even say that Joseph was influencing the political realm of his days like that there are many examples men and women of god even under the old covenant people like Moses the way he led the people he is so much to learn from Moses's leadership Moses's relationship with god so we could learn from him Daniel Daniel was living in a lot of I have especially heard young people say pastor you don't understand we live in a very difficult time don't tell me because Daniel also lived in a very difficult time so it's it's the same actually the world around us has not changed it's putting pressure it's you know pushing us in the wrong direction but if a man like Daniel could stand up for god in Babylon we can stand up for god wherever we are so the point is there are people who have exercised authority in different capacities to influence even world systems in positions of influence they were there they made it happen they lived for god they made a change so we can learn from all these people there are many names I am not going to go over all of them so we can exercise our authority over systems then of course regions in spiritual warfare we will learn about it and we also touched on it we can influence or we can overcome the occult and the demonic world the expressions of the demonic we can overcome doctrines of demons the bible says there will be many teachings that will be birthed from it will not be from god it will be from the demonic realm so they are called as doctrines of demons so we can overcome that how do we overcome a false teaching how do we overcome a false teaching exactly so we should speak the truth speak it more speak it loud so the more we speak the truth of god what happens everyone will come to know that what is being spoken otherwise is a lie so it's as simple as that just teach the truth of god's word in the right way when we keep doing that automatically people will understand that the other things that are being said are wrong they are false so doctrines of demons there could also be people who are known as messengers of satan the bible says there will be so called people who are spreading the word but it will be all false teaching not giving glory to jesus and untruth so even such people we can overcome by our authority so the demonic world we can overcome sicknesses diseases we can overcome circumstances situations we've seen that and even natural elements I know there's a question on the online from one of the online students but I'll finish this please and then we can get to the question so when we say we have authority over natural elements jesus said that he who believes in me the works I do he will also and greater works than these he will do because I go to my father so jesus told us that all of us we will do greater works okay greater works then jesus do great works then now jesus is saying that we will do greater works what is the meaning of that he already did great works and he's saying we will do greater works what jesus is trying to say here is I believe that of course jesus can he's done the greatest of all works but I think because he had he was on the earth only for a short while we can do more in the sense we can do more in the quantity of it that's true yes yes excellent thank you Warren so that's what it means jesus already did many mighty things now we're not really saying we we will do something more exceptional but in terms of quantity we may do more than jesus because his ministry anath was only three three and a half years and it's also possible that we do some things which are unique for example in jesus's times they probably did not have surgeries where metals were inserted into the body but today we have and we have testimonies of people who say oh my metal turned into bone right how can that happen it's amazing creative miracles like that we talk about it today because we have such medical practices right and and so some unique things could also happen in our times which was probably not existing in the times of jesus so that is what greater works is all about now talking about natural elements we know jesus calmed the storm he spoke to the storm he said peace be still and the storm calmed down other times when jesus interacted with nature is the fig tree he spoke to the fig tree he cursed the fig tree and it withered away jesus walked on the water so all this is like amazing how can this happen normally it never happens but supernaturally these things took place there was a coin found in a fish's mouth he told his disciples ok we will pay taxes go collect it so they did that or the multiplying of food ok where bread fish was distributed and a little quantity became a large quantity and it actually met the need of the hungry people so god demonstrated his supernatural power in this way so can we do that can we speak to nature can we speak to the rain can we speak to the winds can we maybe walk on water everything is possible but in a time when you know it is required ok so you see just because let's say jesus walked on water we don't see that he was only transporting himself on water everywhere he still went on a boat or he walked to places or think about this you know he broke bread and multiplied food he didn't tell his disciples this is a great idea why don't we have bakeries we will just sit and multiply food you go distribute it make money let's all make some money ok some godly bakery or supernatural bakery jesus never did it everyday he did it like a one off thing or whenever required because at that point it was necessary so today as a believer if I say I am not going to cook just get me bread get me or whatever get me roti and meat I will sit and multiply it all of you have to pray for me if I do that because it won't work there are natural laws what are the natural laws we have to wake up and do our stuff everyday but if there is some kind of let's say a crisis or a situation where god wants to intervene supernaturally that's when we can expect such miracles but otherwise the natural law keeps happening we cannot do these things randomly or cleaning the house I think I already gave that example like we could say I am not going to clean my house let the angels come and clean the house everyday ok god please you assign angels angels will be like we have better work to do than cleaning houses we have to do it because we are here and you know we experience just the normal way of how things happen you know how things become disorderly you have to back to order and learn to do it the natural way so when it comes to engaging with natural elements as believers it's not like we can look at these examples and say we are going to do it all the time it won't work only if it is required in that situation we can trust in the power of god and such things can take place so alright let's go to the question now we have a couple of minutes left Warren yes I wanted to ask I mean as you've explained so Jesus said we can do greater things than he did we have the ability the authority to do that but there are times when I met some you know men and women of god who specialize in only certain gifts like which is mentioned in Mark you know when it says you know some will be apostles some will be prophets so how does that tie in because I know there are some people who are very good in the gift of prophecy and you know that's what they do but they don't have they're not experienced like healing or that sort of thing okay sure yeah thank you Warren so actually there are at least two questions in what you asked so first Corinthians 1228 is that passage that you pointed to where it says God has given some in the church first apostles, second prophets teachers, workers of miracles so one is about I think the I am assuming you are asking about the 5 fold ministry offices and the graces that God gives people it is true that God gives certain graces to people based on their call so based on our call there is a grace so Ephesians 4 7 it says the grace was given to each one of us according to the measure of Christ's gift so based on the calling the gift will operate so let's say for example somebody who is called in the office of an evangelist we may see miracles and healings take place because that's how people will come to Christ so there may be more miracles in the case of an evangelist as compared to let's say in the case of a prophet because in the case of a prophet I mean this is just for understanding I am not saying that this is how it is but in the case of a prophet maybe there is more grace to prophesy to speak the prophetic word compared to do other things but if you look at a pastor the gift of God, the gift of Christ over a pastor's life is to be able to nurture to be able to shepherd, to be able to raise up leaders, build them up so the grace is according the gift is according to the grace so what in in short that's what I would say did that answer your question? sorry yes thank you very much ok great yes alright thank you thank you everyone so we will stop here and we shall pick up in the next class so have a good week and God bless you all thank you so much