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I'm just recovering Patrick From Big Jim's introduction That is apparently a french accent, but you you took some prodding to recognize it. I hear Well, I guess I I knew Obviously that it was a french accent because it was said in the email accompanying the recording So do you want to hear a real french french accent Tom? Well, yeah, obviously Well, I can I can do a french accent very well And we can do the whole show if you want like this it would give a certain je ne sais quoi a flair I don't know what it is. I don't know what that would do Uh Thank you very much to too big Jim for for the intro. It's I feel honored to elicit such Skillful parody. So thank you very much. If you were to if you were to guess what accent that was, where would you guess? Somewhere in Kentucky, I guess You obviously don't know american accent. All right. No, thank you big jib. That was a lot of fun. And now to the headlines Geek wire reports on former microsoft chief software architect ray ozzy's new service called taco Not Luncheon options. Sadly. It's with an l t a l k o It lets users do things to voice calls like tag them or bookmark certain moments Record parts or all share those parts are all that are recorded share your tags Users can also share text messages and photos through the app during a call It can even do clever things like let you exchange recorded voice memos and then seamlessly turn that into a live call If you want ozzy and co-founded taco with matt pope and eric patty the app is free to use and out first for ios I usually uh, i'm comfortable loving or hating something and this one i'm i i'm not sure I think I have to try it right because I trust ray ozzy I know he makes some pretty amazing things in his career like lotus. Okay, forget that But uh, but but this sounds like it could be the kind of thing where i'm like, wow This is really changed the way I use voice, but it's kind of hard to wrap your head around without using it. I think for sure During his annual competition reports to the european union's committee on economic and monetary affairs Joakim al munia officially acknowledged that his department has asked google for more changes To their proposed search settlement at issue is that google favors its own services and search results In february google proposed several changes most significantly displaying three competing services next to its own Opponents complained that the proposal did not do enough to mitigate google's dominant position in the eu marketplace We're going to dig into this uh this a little bit later on in the show Ars technica reports the united states federal trade commission has filed a civil lawsuit against butterfly labs aka bfl Alludging fraudulent and deceptive practices the feds believe that bfl's founders spent millions of dollars on saunas and guns While failing to deliver promised bitcoin mining equipment It's pretty much just like the scams pulled off in san francisco in 1849. Well. Yeah, we'll send you your mining equipment Meanwhile saunas and guns CNET reports microsoft has set has set september 29th as the new date for the launch of the xbox one in china In compensation for the delay pre-order customers will receive two free games microsoft will be the first game console Maker to launch in china since the ban on game consoles was lifted the xbox one will cost will cost 3699 rmb that's 600 dollars without connect and 4 299 rmb that's 700 dollars with connect China is a really huge market and being there first even though the prices are very high There is a very large rising middle Class in china and that could be interesting for microsoft and given shijian pings Kind of cracked down not on not on a lot of things But specifically giving their administration has been Putting some roadblocks in front of apple and microsoft this got resolved a lot quicker than i expected I thought this would dry down at least through october Remember the tech crunch reported yesterday That apple was going to shut down the beats music service. Well, the new york times reports apple spokesman tom newmire said quote This is not true That's an uncharacteristic flat denial from apple hell. It's an uncharacteristic comment on anything from apple there To be honest, it's a fairly uncharacteristic straightforward response to any request for comment on anything for any company. Yeah. Um, well, I guess you're right there. Yeah I think they wanted to say no, but they thought that was a little bit too short That was true. They had to you know to to preda preda is not true What do they mean by that those four words? Let's overanalyze I I honestly let's look at the font and the background Probably what's going on here is that apple does have a plan to change the beats branding for the music service to itunes I said that yesterday and I still believe that today and that would allow newmire to say this is not true We're not shutting down beats. Uh, because otherwise, why do they put the beats app on apple tv? I just don't I just don't see them letting that happen That's not apple style. So I don't I don't know Android police reports microsoft announced a wireless display adapter that fits in the back of your tv or monitor And mirrors content from any maricast enabled device for 60 dollars You get a little black cable with the hdmi on one end and usb for power on the other That will let you mirror maricast enabled devices screens So it's a it's a 30 60 dollar Chromecast kind of except yeah It's it's almost twice the price price of chromecast and then arguably either more functional because it just does straight mirroring Which chromecast doesn't do chromecast does some mirroring in certain cases Or it's less functional because it doesn't have the app ability to send Video to the device and then still let you surf the the device that you're sending from you know because you're just doing screen mirror The verge reports paypal has partnered with coinbase bit pay and go coin to process bitcoin payments for some merchants in north america if you sell intangible items like music ring tones and the like through the paypal payments hub You can accept bitcoins now Cool. Yeah, although paypal is not processing themselves. So they haven't accepted bitcoin into the paypal womb yet It was disturbing how you said that The next word reports that jola's uh sail fish os phone is on sale in india now Through snapdeal.com jola has been selling the phone in europe through its own site since december customers in india will pay 16 499 rupees or 270 us dollars If they want to pick one up Two things i guess first of all rupees always makes me think of final fantasy and i was certain It was the final fantasy money until i realized it was actually you know like a real currency And uh, so that's the the the phone and the os created by the ex nokia guys, right? Yes, uh, the mego folks who left nokia Went off and and created now You did you ask your wife how to pronounce this? Because i've heard yola Yes, it is yola, but is it all right everyone is saying mojang for moyang Well, and that and and nach has even said if you're speaking english say mojang if you're speaking swedish say mojang Or he's got billions of dollars. He doesn't care about anything at this point. So i don't know anyway. Yes This is this yola. This is them That's who you're talking about excellent. We've settled that we can move on Time for a very important tech topic right right time for you would be surprised like i bet 20 of my email is about pronunciation Time for some news from you. These are things submitted at our subreddit daily tech news show dot reddit dot com If you haven't joined in go join in the fun I know there's more than 3000 people in there voting things up voting things down Submitting stories submitting articles it definitely informs how we put the lineup together every day and alan char submitted an article The wired report that at&t is offering a new bundle for $39 a month that includes 45 megabit per second internet HBO and basic cable now that alone might sound similar to the comcast and time warner cable hbo basic packages However, there is more At&t also includes one year of amazon prime Which gets you the instant streaming video the kindle lending library and the free two-day shipping take that comcast Yeah, you got any amazon prime? The the the most important thing for me in all of this is the 45 megs per second internet Which is a very good connection, but isn't there a catch there? It's if obviously if you can get that kind of speed which i'm guessing Not a lot of people can in the u.s. Well, you have to have the at&t uverse Service available in your neighbor. I can't get I can't get this package because I don't have it in my neighborhood So it's not universally available. It's good point Yeah TM204 passes along an end gadget report that google now has a new card in the deck If you search for a plane ticket in google flights Google now will slip you a flight price monitor card to keep you updated as prices change Based on your recent destination or itinerary searches android police notes that searching for flights on major travel sites like orbits or kayak Does not trigger a google now card I don't like that and anti competitive concerns Yes, siri should be allowed to voice her opinion in your google now cards All in av passes along the wired article about four MIT students going to court to defend against a subpoena demanding the source code of a project called tidbit It's a tool that was created for the node knockout hackathon designed to let website visitors Voluntarily use their computers to mine bitcoins in exchange for going ad-free on a website The new jersey attorney general claims the programmers violated new jersey computer crime laws and demanded the source code And details of its users bitcoin wallets The code was actually never fully functional though was made available for download MIT has stepped in and asked for the subpoena to be withdrawn and the electronic frontier foundation is aiding with the defense I haven't I haven't found a good reason why new jersey is subpoenaing this. I'm not sure what they What actual criminal charges they think could be levied, but they haven't charged them with anything It's only part of an investigation and these guys aren't even in new jersey But I well it applies if you're using the the browser then you can visit any Site from anywhere and I'm wondering if it's not one of those tempering with computer, you know, very wide-reaching legislation where You're actually changing the web page So in the way it could be said that you're tempering with the server that's serving I mean, I really don't know but that's the only one that I could my guess is that they have a suspect Of some sort who happened to have downloaded the tidbit app And they and that led them to just be like get as much information on tidbit as you can Let's see if we can get any more on this guy Because that's kind of the you know, that's that's been the trend is Cast your net as widely as possible for data. Don't worry about, you know Snagging innocent people in its wake. Well, they still have to to make a case for the reason why they're they're Doing that procedure. What's the the law that they that tidbit is breaking? Yeah, no That's going on in court right now. So I'm sure we'll we'll figure out more in a little bit That is look at the headlines All right, let's talk about the eu the vp for the The committee responsible for competition competition policy. That's Joaquin al-Munya In an annual competition report to the econ committee. That's the ec's economic and monetary affairs committee said that some of the 20 formal complaints Against google have given us fresh evidence and solid arguments against several aspects of the latest proposals Put forward by google and he said at the beginning of this month. We let google know that we're waiting for them to respond This is a change from february when al-Munia said I believe that the new proposal obtained from google after long and difficult talks can now address the commission's concerns So he has bowed to the pressure of the microsofts of the world Of the other search engines that have been pushing for stronger Punishments fines and restrictions on google in europe Here's what google had to propose back in february patrick Going to lay this out And then i'm going to lay out some of the objections that have come up over the past month And then you and I can make our our best opinions About what whether we think google has done enough or should do more or shouldn't do anything google's proposal back in february was that they would have results from three competitors show up alongside its own Services there'd be a label on the google services. They would be separated from search results And those links from the rival services would be comparable now on a search engine Where the links would just be services that google provides for free like maps Nobody would have to pay anything. However on a shopping search engine that google does Links from competing shopping services would have to pay To have the privilege of showing up in those top three links So it's not as clear cut as oh, we'll just always put three up there somebody's got to pay in some of these cases There were also several other Lesser publicized agreements new rules on using website content in vertical search services Basically allowing people to opt out easily from the vertical searches like shopping and maps And reviews and things like that Allowing adsense customers to place ads on sites from multiple providers rather than restricting them and saying hey If you put adsense up you can't use anybody else and changes to the api to make it easier If you have multiple ad services to administer them from one interface The objections to the google proposal microsoft says that tests showed that Even if google did this and they used bing as their test bed They said we're going to take the the provided services from the company and we put them in one area and then we put some competing services And traffic still went to the to the preferred services of the host They say that if google did this the google services would still get most of the traffic In fact users 99 times more likely to click on google services A couple other studies out there travel company ettsa argued that google would earn 330 million euros Selling those promoted links those three competitive links in those situations where they can charge Uh, and they don't think that's okay That's just a revenue boost for them and then computer scientists to hamburg university Found that 27.5 of clicks stayed within google shopping When they were presented with google links next to competing links Whereas 7.7 of the clicks went to rivals and there's also some rumors out there that they want youtube results to be covered here That they want data display covered, you know things like just facts not just search results It essentially they're saying even if these remedies go in place google will still have a dominant position in the search marketplace in europe patrick What do you think? That is a very wide question and one that's very difficult to answer In a concise manner basically when you look at i meant about this issue. Oh, oh, sorry My bad then in that case it's very easy I thought about going there as I was saying it but then I figured you have a serious show here We're running a business So google's proposals when you look at them In isolation they not they seem very reasonable They seem like they would address the e use and the competition's concerns It's like, okay, you're displaying links from Competitors and you're doing all of these things that I'm not quite sure how google could do more than this in order to To benefit the competition in this situation Then you look at the tests which might be a little bit skewed because obviously microsoft is doing it Is doing the tests. I think we might need In this case a more neutral Entity to do these kinds of tests and see if it would if they would work or not But when you look at the test results, you're thinking Well, the initial proposal seemed fair, but if it's not working Then it might not be as fair as we as we think and more importantly even it doesn't solve the problem And I think that's the key thing to remember in this issue and in this debate. It's very easy to go over this Problem and think well, you know the eu is bashing google over the head google's being reasonable It's not their fault that they're you know, they have such Performing services that they're so good that everyone wants to use them But the thing you have to remember is that under when you're you have A service that occupies so much of the market then it's not about fairness anymore The competition is in jeopardy and you have to apply a different set of rules now I'd like to go over just two numbers um to to illustrate that The reason why google is under such immense antitrust scrutiny in europe in the u.s Google's market share those numbers are from last year 2014, but google's market share is or was 68 percent now that's still enormous But it's there is room for the competition In france and in europe google's market share is 94 to 95 percent That is an unbelievable number. It means that businesses webpages All the internet which is basically everything because everything goes through the internet nowadays Is completely beholden to google with no Almost no alternative now. We might discuss For hours whose fault it is and if the competition is not good enough and all of that It doesn't change the resulting situation, which is google has an immense Majority Of the of the of the market here and that is definitely a problem where Again fairness sort of gets out of the picture and you have to re-inject Somehow forcefully possibly the the competition that is very important for an effective Open market and and Capitalistic approach to the market I think it's also important to remember the microsoft Trial that took place in europe You know it lasted like 15 or 16 years about windows Entitrust issues and that took a long time, but it was also a lot less difficult to solve basically A number of things were bundled into windows and because they had to be like a browser and a media player and things like that But ultimately the way it was solved was that you would Offer microsoft would offer the choice to the consumer to install or to Yeah, to install competitors browser. Yeah, exactly and they had silly things like Windows media player Less windows versions. So you had the same windows version without windows media player that you could get if you wanted But it was even that was very complex at the time But it was a lot more simple here the the the crocs of the issue is What exactly do we want google to do and I don't think for all the complaining and and and Laying out of the issue explaining of the issue. I don't think anyone's come up with an exact Answer to what we want google to do a lot of people are talking about the fact that the algorithm is very obscure and some EU members are saying google is favoring its own services in the Search results and of course google is saying no we're not we're just using the neutral Algorithm, but of course the only way to resolve that question would be to take a look at the algorithm Which google is probably never gonna let anyone do so I've been talking for 15 minutes. It's a very complex issue and I started out with a very anti-eu Stance on this this was almost going to be a rant now having looked at it a little bit more i'm i'm Not sure there's an easy solution or even a bad guy in all of this Yeah, I mean as far as the the report goes I mean you can look at that report from hamburg and basically say Okay, well, that's not microsoft doing it. That's that's some researchers And maybe they have their own axe to grind but 27.5 clicks stayed with google shopping 7.7 went to rivals That makes sense. What the question is what would be fair, right? If i'm on amazon and I see two products and one is like available through amazon and the other is available from a third party And amazon does this they link out to other people where you can buy stuff Even if the price is a little cheaper with the third party I'm more likely to stay with amazon because I know and trust amazon So that's my problem with this is well, of course you're going to have 27 stay with google They're at google they went to google because they like google and so they're going to stick with google And this is this is the problem with How do we decide what's fair, right? Your most compelling fact, I think in everything that you said was the google has a 98 share in the EU I think people don't realize that even within europe. They probably don't realize just how predominant that If you define a monopoly as more than 50 share, that's a ridiculous super monopoly, right? The question is what would be fair? How do we get this back to fair and I don't think fair is an equal number of clicks because bing would not agree to that Bing wouldn't say well all of your clicks have to be equal as well Nobody would the question is how do you remedy the marketplace so that people actually realize that there are choices? Is it just that google serves the european market so well that everyone else sucks? I don't think that's true, but how did they get to this dominant position in the first place? It's different than microsoft with microsoft you bought a computer It had windows in most cases and when it had windows you used ie That's just the way it was with search engines people have more portability They most of them are buying windows and probably in a lot of cases At least in the united states choosing ie Maybe this was caused By the fact that the eu now has a ballot where they can choose firefox They can choose chrome when they install a windows machine and suddenly they're using browsers that google is the default search engine Maybe google shouldn't do anything with their actual search results Maybe they should go after the market share problem and say hey, guess what google? You can't be the default search engine on all of the browsers anymore That that could be actually a very interesting at least thing to explore because you're talking about fairness and As I was saying earlier, I'm not exactly sure I think we're talking about the same thing, but I wouldn't call it fairness at this point I think it would need to be effectiveness. What would even work in this situation that is very difficult to entangle and the the effectiveness aspect is what irks me the most because google is giving different types of different proposals and going farther and farther into things that do seem kind of fair but ineffective and What irks me and that was going to be my rent is that the eu is saying no, that's not enough Do it make another proposal, but not saying what they want to get So it's a very dysfunctional relationship where they're they're They're putting google in a very difficult position By asking something without even knowing what that thing would be It's I think it's a mistake to ask google to change how they do their business to fix this Because it's google's website google should be if you go to google you should get what google thinks you should get And then the free market should allow you to say, oh, you know what? I don't like that. They're shoving their stuff in my face all the time I'm going to choose another search engine. So the problem is why are people not moving to other search engines more often And that's the problem. I think they need to solve for not make google send people to other search engines That that is putting the cart before the horse Because the problem isn't the search results, right? The problem is and I'm going to use this example won't work for you I actually tried it on google.fr If you do chipotle, which is a restaurant chain in the united states You get a search result for chipotle at the top, right? That's an unpaid search result But then before you get the rest of the search results, you get four reviews. They're all google reviews They're not yelp reviews. They're not four square reviews. They're google reviews over to the right You have a little info box with a google map in it and google reviews below it This is what people are objecting to is like, hey, wait a minute If this is just a search engine now, they're sending everybody within to their own google results There's only one link on this on above the fold above the scroll here that doesn't go to a google thing So I looked at bing. They do exactly the same thing You get chipotle then you get bing local reviews Underneath that and then you get a bing map to the right and that's why I'm like don't make google change This is this is actually the way people want to use the service Because if you go to ask dom they do the same thing But they use yelp reviews because they don't own a review service So they're using a third party that they made a partner with again The problem what you should be solving for is letting people shoot let the company do what the company does And let people Have a choice between search engines and if you have 98 market share something is impeding that choice I would I would argue I yeah, it's possible. I'm not saying it's not But I would come back to the fact that once you get into an enter trust situation You can't consider the company or the service that has an enormous market share in the same way that you do everyone else And that's why I think in this case it could be It could be a good solution or a necessary solution to have google change the way they do things I'm not saying it is and I think it irks me very much to have to get into google's own search results and change things But maybe that's the only solution in because of the antitrust factor. It might be okay But maybe that's why I don't think they've considered other solutions because the pressure is coming from search engines who are like Hell yeah, we want our links showing up in google. That's exactly what we want for free Right and I agree that because the ally would be having microsoft solve the windows domination problem By putting other operating systems within windows in virtual form Like that just doesn't make any sense at all. Yeah, I'm not sure It doesn't make any sense because it's not the same situation. I would say but I will agree with you that The root of the issue or at least one thing to explore would definitely be making google not the default search engine everywhere That could be something that could be very easily Addressed and that would make a lot more sense and would have i'm certain very immediate Results so if firefox didn't have google as the default search engine for example may and may and firefox is like no That's all the money. That's where we get all our money. That's how we get money, right? Yeah So it's it's a thorny issue and I agree with you that we don't know what the solution here is But I don't think the proposals that even google has agreed to make Actually solve the problem. I actually think microsoft and friends are right. It doesn't solve the problem But I don't think anybody's put forth a solution that actually solves the problem because I don't think they're addressing the right problem All right We haven't solved anything either so i'm not going to exempt us from this as well But let us know feedback at daily tech news show dot com if you think you have the solution Our calendar shows that tomorrow september 24th is blackberries see the bigger picture event in toronto london and dubai So you'll get to see the new big blackberry phone tomorrow Is also the start of derby con a meeting of security professionals in louisville, kentucky that runs through the 28th And today in 1889 125 years ago today fuzajiro yamauchi founded nintendo kapai in kyoto japan To manufacture hana fuda japanese playing cards And then later mario, but starting with playing cards I'm wondering if hiroshi yamauchi who was nintendo's president for a very long time at least in in my time Unfortunately, he passed away in uh 2013. I wonder if he was a direct descendant of the venerable I did not research that question, but I would guess likely so yeah Interesting our pick of the day comes from vance mcallister known google lover Uh, who says if iphone and ipad users want to get tastes of androids upcoming material design aesthetic And get a great news app try out google play newsstand which was released in the app store today This replaces the older currents app and is a huge improvement You can select which categories of news you want and can customize the sources feeding into it for me It has replaced feedly all together and i'm also using flipboard a lot less as well This is one google app that works well as a standalone even if you are not in the google ecosystem Fast and nicely designed and that's why i call vance a google lover because he's not just a fan boy He's recommending an ios app for you and he follows this stuff. He knows this stuff. Uh, so check it out The google Play newsstand is the new name for currents on ios and folks on android have had this version for a while But now you get the material design over there on ios, which is kind of interesting as well Yeah, I wasn't going to check it out because I checked it out a long time ago and I didn't love it when it was currents Uh, but yeah, you've convinced me. Uh, thank you. Good job very much events Send your picks to feedback at dailytechnewshow.com and you can find my picks at dailytechnewshow.com slash picks In fact, I ordered some coffee from one of my picks just this morning in the still box Uh, finally our message of the day comes from russell He was uh talking referring to our oculus rift discussion yesterday And it reminded him of a really great book called ready player one by urnis kline Which was published a couple years back russell, uh describes this story It's a dystopian future centers around a virtual space called oasis and the outside world has become a place of some misery As the population spends their quality time in a gigantic mmo Called oasis using an oculus style vr device including the gloves discussed on yesterday's show It goes on to talk about wade watts the story's main character There's some wil weaton references a core doctoro reference in there It won the 2012 prometheus award the audible version is read by wil weaton So you you got to check this out if you haven't already ready player one dot com Or just look for it at your favorite source of books and audiobooks. Thanks for the reminder russell yet. Yeah ready player one is a great predictive story In lots of ways because it's pointing down the road from ultima through warcraft to oculus Of of where we might end up. I'm not saying we'll end up in a dystopian society But the technology that he he described is really interesting It's been recommended to me on several occasions. So I will have to read it at some point. You you really really will like it I'm almost certain. Uh, you know, you look you do sometimes don't like things that other people like but I think you'll like this I'm remembering many movie-licious conversations suddenly, but I still think you'd like it Uh, patrick beija La ronde de vu tech and of course regular contributor here on daily tech news show So Hey, uh, what where should folks best follow you? Is it not patrick on twitter? It's probably not patrick on twitter indeed. 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No, it has a writer now zack penn And the awesome part of that is uh, he has a credit on the avengers although we all know who really wrote the adventures But it's fine. Uh, and I'm sure they've hired a team of rights gatherers. So it's definitely going to happen No, they don't have a director or a cast or anything But let me tell you something the world wants this movie and we're slightly closer to it. Definitely going to happen It's gonna happen. Sometimes you just have to have faith And this is one of those times. Would you like some titles? Let's Okay Saunas and guns Kind of writes itself doesn't it? Uh, trust us europe Uh, one that's too long, but uh, it's a little it's search engines info seek altavis to ask being hot bot like osiyahu I do like don't get your being in my google That's that's a good one Uh Sounds like a 1940s dance song. Yeah Don't put your being in my google I'm looking over a being in a google Remember it's my being Okay, that's getting greedy creepy now I Torch song about search engines. We have no being like us. We have no being like goes today. Yeah Nice I don't know it's up to you. What do you think? I guns and saunas saunas and guns saunas and guns. Yeah, I was like The Todd wait What is It's having a party in the street What I don't know. There's some loud music in my neighborhood. Oh I'm I'm unhappy Do you know that I've never agreed to the terms of service of itunes on this computer I just accidentally launched it and it said agree to the terms of service. I'm like, no I Will not You can't make me apple Although apparently the the uh m4a is still set as a default play in itunes. So I should probably change that Is there also a ready player one game like called stacks? Is this possible? I don't think so There was one when the when the uh book came out. They had their own game out It says ready player one the stacks game download available monday may 26 2014 after a year and 2000 hours of development The stacks is ready to play Go figure All right guys, I'm gonna jump off Thank you for explaining things to us Thank you for agreeing to listen to me rant for 15 minutes. That was good. Good stuff, man As always I I will thank you chat room. You are old champions in my book. Even though that's not ready player one And bye jenny. Bye tom. Bye Patrick arvois this game great Very simple game. Um Oh man Every once in a while, I wish that I hadn't read what ready player ones so that I could read it again It's that kind of book that kind of book. Although, you know, there's so much in there You could just reread it every year and find something new And if you haven't done, I don't know if you've done the audiobook, but anybody who hasn't done the audiobook Then should go do the audiobook because it's read by will That's true. And he's a great narrator every audiobook. I've ever listened to narrated by will weeden is fantastic cool Have you listened to one? I have not I've not a big audiobook person Um, well, that's a way for you to re experience the book. Yeah, that's true Although I have this dream Although it's basically an illegal dream of I've mentioned this before of getting all my friends to record a chapter of the lord of the rings Uh, and just so I can have it like it's not for sale. It's not for it's just for me Uh, you know because I love hearing it lord of the rings is one of those books that You have a whole new appreciation for when you read it out loud Which has been done in our household over the course of four months It took four months to read all three books Um, so yeah, so that's my dream Is it your primary dream? No My primary dream involves like cheesesteaks and games How is uh the your adventure Oh in skyrim. Yeah Oh, it's going very well. Um I have noticed that i'm old and my eyes hurt so I can't really play eight hours of skyrim anymore or any video game um, but yeah, it's Stunningly compelling Because I basically had to spend no time learning the controls because it seems fallout. So Um, but yeah, I'm like way in the beginning stages Uh, but it's kind of awesome Then I have to figure out what game is next what game is next chat room Oh, that's a good idea Atticus minch What is getting will weaton on dtns? Yeah, he's island accepted. We should ask him. We should ask him I don't think I've ever asked him for dtns, but usually he very nicely explains that he's like crazy mega busy Yeah, and I totally understand, but I'd love to have him All right, let me see what I can do. We could talk scotch and Guinness and hockey and tech All of the things of life My question is well, it's going to be the game that gets me to buy a playstation 4 Because nothing has yet compelled me to do so No feel This need to upgrade. I don't have a feel for what you What your particular thing is Fallout skyrim open world massive character based Unrestricted as humanly possible. Well, you might like destiny actually You should try diablo. Although that's not ps4 specifically Diablo three Diablo three for the console wide open fantasy open world Okay character based Lore lore out the yin yang lore is good lore is good. There's so much lore in skyrim I'm like my eyes are I hadn't even thought about it before you would love diablo Okay, especially because I don't get the feeling that the mechanics Of the character of the fighting are what you know are important to you Like some people are like, I don't like diablo because you're not doing as much first person shooter Fighting and I don't I don't think that that would matter. I think you'd oh, I like less first person shooter Yeah, I did love it I'm not such a big fan of these dragons Getting a little out of hand Dragons Yeah Uh uncharted four what I like uncharted four. I don't know I don't really play those games. So I have a harder time on that side Maybe if you like fought, I mean, they're generally in the same category All right Really the answer is what games genny should play is no games. No games no more games But I gotta keep my skills. That's a horrible idea. No more games. What are you talking about? Who said that? Um But yeah, I gotta keep my skills up because uh, Oculus is coming Hey, when we all get Oculus rifts, can we do a virtual show inside? Like an Oculus rift verse Yes And have everybody in the same room but different Uh, huh. Yeah, you probably could All right, let's make let's make it put that on the calendar That'll be a I think you could put that on the calendar since we don't know when the rift is we'd actually we should get a Calendar should get a dev version of the rift. Yeah, I don't know how you shoot that Yeah, I don't either and that's what I really want like what I want to know is how What's the ecosystem like the default ecosystem? For a rift. That's what I don't know. What do you mean? Well, so like is there a baseline level location you can go to or do you just play game game game? Uh, yeah, there's no there's no all they have right now is a gallery Essentially of things you can download and use the rift for but that's like saying what's the ecosystem for a joystick or your monitor Like the it's it's not meant to be someone will create that ecosystem I don't know. Yeah, there'll be several ecosystems steam will be an ecosystem game consoles will be an ecosystem PC gaming will be any, you know, I guess steam is PC gaming, but I guess I'm asking is where is my oasis Where where is oasis? Well, somebody see that's what I'm trying to say is oculus won't make that but somebody might And there actually might be more than one Yeah That would be awesome. Then they could go to war Blizzard and ultima and Second life Yeah, but those second life people are just like hanging on waiting Waiting for their are still here Hey everybody Yeah, that's why it's my big exciting thing I'm waiting for Okay uploading things Should I make it public? Yeah, I think you should you think so All right, I'm just all for I'm all for advanced notice I guess I'll make it. I guess I'll make the file public Do it I thought you were talking about the other thing of the gangs of oculus. Ooh, that sounds good gangs of oculus Sounds like an HBO show in the making. Yeah Warriors put on your heads I saw James Rimar On the one street in Hollywood or actually in LA where you can always see any celebrity anytime of the day Uh sitting there and I was like, oh my gosh. It's a guy from the warriors and I was so excited And then I resisted Screaming that in the middle of large mobile. Uh, and I thought that was very responsible of me Um, so yeah, that was exciting in one day. I saw mark ferris-deen Uh Schmidt from real girl Nice a new girl new girl not real girl. She's not a real girl and uh, and uh, james ritmar It was it was a pretty crazy day Eve valkyrie, okay Oh eve no, oh come on eve online I'll never be seen from again Isn't that what you want? Yeah, but I still have to do my job So I can't you're talking about the oculus you don't pretend like that's not going to be the same problem I know it's really going to be a problem I used to think the same thing of warcraft actually I was like, no if I play it, I'll never stop It wasn't true. Actually I could I could stop I well my interesting thing though is like I am not a big fan of the multiplayer Because it a multiplayer does what I do in real life, which is deal with people I don't want to deal with people I want to go deal in a world that has been created for me without other people except matt who's like do that Do that do that. No, I totally hear you um my My thing uh with with multiplayer though is like if you do It with people you know and know you like it's really super fun That's true. So you either have to treat the other player less like they're not people Or find people that you want to be around and then it's it's totally fine I mean games in which you like I can't even be a bad guy for five minutes in these games Like I can't make immoral decisions in a video game So the idea of actually trying to kill someone who was a real person and they're I couldn't do it Yeah, no, you just got to forget there. I couldn't do it. They're not people In in the video game That's not at all a problem for our society Um, anyway, so that's that's my that's why I stick to like the big online worlds that have no social interaction Unless it's with a robot Oh, and how do we feel about vince vaughn being casted in true detective with con ferrell? I Don't have a problem with that. Okay Do you Feel like that's a trick question No, I feel like I'm supposed to have a problem with that like like it's a ben afleck and batman sort of thing Well, I actually am a huge ben afleck fan and always have been so uh, I support all afleckian things but uh I actually have always been a fan of ben afleck ever since he wrote an article really really early on in his career for like Gq or esquire and he was a damn good writer and he had really good voice And after that I was like nope. He can't do any wrong Um, but yeah, I guess we'll see I guess we should trust the people who make the thing All right. I'm out of the post Goodbye video people. You are the best