 Okay, Doki. Here we go. Let's make sure this is working. Okay, I guess we're good to go. I guess we're ready. There we go. It came up real fast. Hello, everybody. If it's New Year's Day, then it must be time to do this. That was very shocking. It normally takes quite a few seconds to actually go. This time it just went not ready. I'm glad I wasn't talking about what I was talking about before we got started. All right. Well, hello, everyone. Welcome. We're going to talk about the reactions here. Happy New Year's, everybody. Happy 2021. We leave behind a dumpster fire that was 2020, and we start the New Year off right with some new luminous, some new slanesh. We finally get the plank when we've been promised for so long. We get all sorts of fun stuff and we're going to break it down. We're going to go through. We've got images pulled. We've got all that. I hope everybody's having a happy New Year's. I hope your hangovers aren't too strong or anything like that if you're one of those types of people. I hope you're having a nice New Year's Day. If you're somewhere else in the world where it's already not New Year's, I hope your New Year's Day was great. We're going to jump into it here in a minute, just letting everybody else join. Let's start at the very beginning with just some high-level feelings before we get into the details, since I heard Tom have kids in the background. I'll talk first. Great. Overall, I'm super excited about this. I love everything they previewed, even though we only got little snippets and shots. We're going to break them down. I thought these were all fantastic. The plank when is more or less exactly what I expected for Slenesh. Obviously, we're going to deep dive into that. All the rest of the models, it's time to see how did we measure up for our prediction show. Two days ago, we obviously can't talk timing yet, but we can see. Some of the stuff we talked about is clearly reflected here. Tom, what's your high-level reactions to this? I love the format. I'm going to open with that. I love the animated rumor engine run. Basically, what they did was they took a bunch of video of little corners and pieces of models, and they're like, haha, spoiled. It was very engaging. From what we can tell, I'm very excited for most of the pieces. Fair enough. Fair enough. I like that. Let's get into it. Of course, if you're watching this and you like it, hit like. It's always nice. It helps other people find the show, so hit like now or subscribe if you haven't. For more content and nonsense like this in the future, here we go. First things first, I'm just going to roll the video here. We're going to mute it, and then we're going to roll the video because it will play the sound, and it is very loud, and I don't want that to happen. I'm not going to pause too much because we have breakouts of all the stuff, so we're just going to let it roll here and kind of go through. A bunch of 40k stuff I don't care about, like a new Chaos type of war machine, something for Adeptus Titanicus or Imperial Knights, and then an Adeptus Mechanicus thing. Cool beans. All great stuff, I'm sure. Neat. Now let's talk about the things that matter. Goku Windmage, we're going to get into him in a second. He's exciting. We've got our new armored camel riding wizards, or Alpaca, some form of long necked thing. We'll get to that. We've got some more of that. Witch Hunter confirmed. Boom, boom. Very excited about this guy. And then we've got our two different death models here. It actually shows us two different ones. Those aren't the same guy you can tell as I'll show. And then the big slanish palanquin. So I want to start here. Hold on, I'm going to pause this for just a second on one model. Boom. Okay, so this is clearly a bony guy. This is a different guy than the dude we're going to actually spend a lot of time on. We just don't really get enough of this model to actually see what it is. So like this is, it's clearly a death model. I mean, that's obvious from the pitted rod and shield and the nature of the cloak and the rod. You can still see that even this weapon has lots of pits in it over here and stuff, but we don't really like the hand looks pretty bony. The leg is bone, right? You can see the skeletal leg right there, but we don't really get enough of this model to infer much of anything other than, okay, some kind of new undead skeletal dude. We had predicted new death. I think it's still going to be largely vampire focused like vampires at the head, but they're going to use it to refresh a lot of the death army to get there. A lot of the languishing death models up to snuff, right? But we don't really get enough of this guy to say much. I just wanted to call him out in the video, okay? All right, so we'll get into those little snippets individually, but first let's talk about this Palinquin, man. Oh boy. Yeah. This is great. Also, is this a little halfling down here? I think it is. I don't know. If it's a halfling, Martin Orlando pointed that out, and here's the deal. If that's a halfling, he can touch his toes without bending. Yeah, sure. If you look at the arm length. That's his feet right there. That's his foot. You can see his foot there. Again, the arm to torso ratio is crazy if that is indeed a halfling. That's fine. Could just be a very short person. Or it could be like a person without legs. Sure. Yeah, yeah, I suppose. Like if their sole purpose is to just move food before the gluttonous guy. So obviously this thing is amazing, yes. We're playing into the gluttonous nature of Slenesh. I think it's funny that he has stitches on his belly as though he's, like, I guess, stretched out too far. Did he have gastric bypass surgery at some point? I'm not sure. Obviously it didn't take. He had gastric increase surgery. Expansion. Expansion, yes. Love all of his attendance, like the executioner clearly up there. Dude has a hookah. Just in case we missed that. He does have a hookah up on here, which I'm all about. Yep. Love that. And then he's got, you know, the guy whipping the two mutants here with their giant claws. We've got the sort of peacock feathering food bearer here as well as his bodyguard and then his little server. So I assume this is like the bearer for the food. This is the one who feeds him. This is his bodyguard. And this is the one who drives the Palakwyn. So who did it better? Catechrose or glutton guy? I mean, I like this model better than Catechrose. But if I had to sort of objectively state, I think that probably the Catechrose model is more scenic, right? Right. If that makes sense. It's more of a living diorama. This still feels like a model. Right. Does that make sense? Like this still feels like a model that's on the table. It makes sense how it like gets around and what's happening. Catechrose is, by the way, I think they're the same sculptor. I just want to say that. So kudos to this sculptor who is straight killing it. I believe it's the same sculptor that did both Catechrose and this Palakwyn. And that person is doing just bonzer work at GW right now. That person better have gotten a fantastic holiday bonus. That's all I'm saying. Because they are tippy top of their game right now. They are Michael Jordan at his height of the sculpting world here. All the rings. How do you like Slanesh really branching out into the other areas of excess? Yeah, they should. I mean, it's something that should happen. I'm going to switch that model. Let me just say that. I won't have a big fat guy in the back of my model. Just because my dude's going to be more live than on pillows, I've already got the model I'm going to use to replace him. That's fine. I assume he's a guy who sits separately in there. Because most time when they model this stuff, just the necessity of the sprue is that they have to keep them separate. The chariot itself will be a thing and then the guy will be a thing. If I get this and go to the throughout, I may go get one of the Kingdom Death models, one of the lounging guys, and put him in there. Yeah, absolutely. I like the aesthetic. It should be explored. It's just not my particular taste for my force. But that's not in any way a shot on it. I think it's super cool. Here we go. Got a nice bunch of little images of the thing. Yeah, I mean, all the individual figures look incredible. I really, really dig the bodyguard with the tooth sword and this mask. This guy looks fantastic. All about this, dude. What model am I going to replace him with? One of the deceiver from 40K that's like wrapped around and is kind of like doing this, the CTAN deceiver, I think he'll fit. I'm just going to like heat him up so I can bend him into the right place and then put him in there because he needs to be sitting down. But he's like lounging almost naked with just like some cloth around him. He'll fit in perfectly. We were right on the rumor engine for the thing holding the stuff. I had said this was going to be part of the Palinquin and was correct. I did not expect that this rumor engine would show up here. Which one? The snake holding teeth thing at the top. The thing that's holding the umbrella over top of him. Yeah, I can't remember the art is not connected for me. Yeah, that's fine. This guy right here, this thing up top is one of the rumor engines as well as obviously this thing on the back of the Palinquin, as we said. So I mean, that just felt super obvious. Lots of fun chances to do marble here. Love the guy. The attendance are fantastic. Gorebeast's weep at the awesomeness of these guys. The war altar, or not war altar, the gosh darn it, Tom. Well, these are the same mutant. These are the war, the chaos war shrines. Thank you, war shrines. Yes, the name would not click my head. They're clearly a better newer sculpt of those mutants, though. Like if you put together those mutants from the war shrine, they're just so kind of derpy. And like these guys with the addition of the slanesh claw, the remolded armor, right? And they have this free arm. Like at least one guy does, like the war shrine guys. Yeah, they're clearly a take on those original dudes. I'm just saying like what a lovely update to the war shrine mutants, right? Yep, yep. And the fact that they're just pulling it as opposed to holding it is something I always thought was weird, right? It was weird that the war shrine guys are like carrying it around. Yeah, because you gotta remember that's a bumpy ride. Yeah, sure. You gotta think about it. Well, and also what happens when they start fighting and then they just drop the guy on top? No, this feels right to me. Like yeah, these dudes would just stand up and start fighting, right? And then that's okay. So yeah, love all of these A-plus work. I mean, this shrine is killing it. Fantastic, fantastic centerpiece to the army, right? And for those that don't want to do demons, you now have a slanesh centerpiece. Yeah, absolutely. Who is a caster, by the way? They did confirm that this guy's a spellcaster in the article. So it seems like... How many wounds do you think this charity is going to have? Probably 10. 10 or 12, something in that range. So you know what I loved about this, by the way? Like my favorite call out of this thing. If you look right underneath the hookah to the bottom and the right. Yep. This looks like it's the same. Like they quarried this out of the same place where all the daughters of Kane are quarreling. Yeah. Yeah. They're statues for their colder to blood. I thought the same thing. Yeah. I would also point out that I have about eight of those extra statue guys. So I might find a use for it. You're going to do another tier on this powder. Another level. Yeah. Yeah. Might have to build it up with more levels or more of those guys. Yes. Yeah. I mean this thing. I'm sure we can just sit here. And you can do it on the back. Yeah. Yeah. There's one on the back and then there's one on each side. Like there's one down here and then one on each side. Like here. Here. And then there's another guy on the opposing side. Yeah. It's great. I'd not much more to say hookah clear like food offering. Wonderful faces. I like this guy's face actually quite a lot because it looks really creepy and weird. But it's not. Which one. The middle guy. The lash master. Yeah. I do just driving. Yeah. I just I love how they're redesigning most of the slinnish faces. I think the food bearer's face looks a little weird because she has big dark eyes. I think if you actually didn't have these huge dark globes that they painted in there, she would just look like she has a pretty normal face. So. Yeah. Not sure about the new trend towards scarification in slinnish but okay. It's fine. I just don't know. Like the one of the problems that I have with the scarification in current slinnish is that it's out of scale. Right. Like. I mean I've met plenty of people who have body scarification who do that. Right. That's like a thing you can go get. You can go have that done. And it's really small is what it usually ends up as. You're not burning like this. The scar isn't this wide. Right. But if you scaled her up, that's how wide it would be on her arm. Right. It'd be multiple fingers wide. So at any rate the that's kind of my only issue with their scarification. They can't make it small enough with the sculpting to actually make it feel in scale for body scarification. I mean when I did Celeste, I just cut it all off. I just shaved it off and sanded it down. So. No big deal. I'll probably do the same here. So at any rate, beautiful awesome stuff. Now let's get into all the other models from the reveal. This was the obvious one. Right. This is the one they gave us. It's the newest one coming beyond excited. Mutants look great. New claws look great. All the attendance look great. This is the centerpiece we wanted. This is slanesh just in a encapsulated freaking love it. Okay. So great. Now let's get into all the rest of the model. Shall we? No. Before we do that, we need to have a little story. Hey, can I ask you a question? Yeah. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Do you think that this is a dual kit? The Palincon? No. I do not. I think it's a single model. All those big things like that. They never make them dual kits. Why? Okay. Yeah. Just wondering. Like I'm wondering if you have an unnamed hero option as well. Yeah, it'd be nice, but no, I suspect it's a special character. By the way, what that will mean? Like if you think about the symmetry of the release, that means there is one named melee character and one named spellcaster and one unnamed melee character and one unnamed spellcaster. Yeah. Right. And so like that feels right. Given they don't always do those kinds of things, Lumineth, but you know, it, it, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lumineth. Yeah. Okay. It's story time though, first time you went and grabbed this awesome story right away. You were on this immediately. I'm not going to take credit for it. It was, it was, it was floating around the Lumineth realm lord Facebook group. So I thought I'm not going to take claim for this find, but I thought it was imminently relevant for what we're about to talk about. So we're going to read this. Yes. This comes, this, this is a short narrative from the Lumineth book on the invasion into the region of Zatrak, the skies of Zatrak by the blue scribes that led a, a shoal of screamers. And they, what happened is, is when they pursued the elementary and let me remind you the elementary, there are three different like classes of elves. Yep. You have the scenario, the venari and the elementary. The scenario are like the normal, like the wizards and the venari are like your standard, like your archers and your bowmen. The elementary are the, the elves that were aligned with the elements. And so like, for example, your big hammer wielding cow elves are the elementary. They have the elementary keyword. So you're, they're your elemental worshipers amongst the elves. Yeah. And it says the elementary of the slicing gale. Here they're patron wind spirit howling in protest. So if you'll remember, we have the mountain guys, which worship the cow mountain God. Right. The elemental, elemental spirit. Well, these are the, the elementary, elementary of the slicing gale. They're the wind spirit aligned people. And it said, the temple warriors raced across the Zor something desert after the invading sky shell, their long limbed writing beasts bearing them into battle at a breakneck pace so that they can launch killing shafts into the swirling sky ray formations. The blues scribes themselves do the cloud writing mages of the temples and scintillating explosions of magic that fill the skies. And so you have, you have air temple aligned elves here being narrated. And we have two different types of elves being described. A long limb cab unit with bows. Well, they're shooting. Yeah. So they're shooting, they're launching killing shafts. Yes. So they could be javelin ears. Sure. On, on alpacas. But a range. Yes. Yep. And which it may not only be range. It could be a dual kit and cloud writing mages. So Vince, tell me what, what did we see? Bam. In the image. All right. So we've got our little Goku guy here riding his cloud coming out of his magic stick magic stick cloud. Yeah, this guy is great. So here we're just going to pull out the individual. I just pulled out individual images from the, the, the video so we can take a look at them. Yeah. So here we've got our little sky mages, right? So clearly this is going to be our cloud writing wizard. And yeah, I mean, feels like it's somebody who's matching the scribes and the, and the sky shul mages. So it's probably going to be a character. Yep. So good stuff. Yeah. Cool. A little, little monkey King writing a cloud around seems good to me. Yeah. I mean, it's, so it'll be really interesting. I'm excited to see kind of where they go. Clearly a lot of movement in the Cape. Like you can see how they've sculpted the model. So it's just a ton of movement. Right. You can look back here. He's very much leaning into it. His cape is flourished out behind him. The cloud is roiling out behind him. Like, I mean, that is a wind. Like, so here, here, that is a luminous model. I don't care. Like that is 100%. You can see it in the moon. You can see it in the way that like the hammer pants combined with the hard armor pieces. The runes on the staff, like the whole deal. This is luminous. It is a cloud writer. We called a second, a second wind. Yes. Of luminous models. And guess what? Here we go, folks. So I have to believe that we're now talking about at least three kits. And I'll talk about why in a second when we get to the next one. Yep. Oh, I like the staff too. Somebody said I don't like the magic stick. No, I like the magic stick. I think magic stick looks cool. I have no problem with a stick. Okay. And yes, when you're writing your clouds kids, it's always important wear your helmet, wear your knee pads. You know, you want to avoid those injuries. So if you're going to ride your cloud around, make sure you get your knee pads on. Yep. I expect them to have a suitably large helm as well. Absolutely. Okay. All right. Oops. Sorry. Went too far. There we go. Okay. Boom. So here is our, here is our image. This is obviously the writer's cloak. Here is the writer's shield and then the writer's leg. He's clearly open in some way. Like you can see he has an open stance. This is the fact that they have a shield makes me think it is. So either we're talking about a dual kit where you've got a melee build and an archer build, or my personal feeling is they're actually going to use javelins or something like that. Like, cause that would, then you could, I mean it could still be a dual kit, but it's an easy kit. If you have him like with the, cause he clearly looks like he's moving with a shield out and moving to throw. You think about how you throw a javelin, right? And how your body would move. If this is your shield arm and this is your throwing arm, right? When he goes out like this and like they, this is how they try to do this stuff. Right? So like he's clearly in a pose like this where he's throwing, that would explain the position of his shield perfectly. Yup. Right? Yup. So that's why I say I think it's a throwing weapon, not a, like he, they have like wind to javelins or something. Right? That it goes super far cause their javelins are carried aloft by the winds themselves or whatever. So Martin Orlando is pointing out the, in the foreground, you see the scales with the white thing. He thinks, he thinks that's the bottom of a banner. Like this is a, like a banner bearer. This, this right here? No, I think that's just a shield. I can't see what you're saying this on. That's fine. It'll catch up in a second. Yup. The, I think honestly Martin, that's just a shield because of the way I just described the thing flowing out. Yeah, I know. You'll catch up in a second, Tom. Yup. I think that it's either, honestly, I think it's either a shield or I'm sorry, I think that it's either a camel or a, an alpaca. Yeah, clearly. Yup. With, with, with the far range possibility that it might be a sphere angst, a different breed of sphere angst than the mind stealers. Okay. Gotcha. Look, I hope it has a weird head. I really do. Like I think it'd be great if it had a weird face. Oh, he's saying, no, I think there's a, I said, I think there's a banner option in the kit. Sure, I would imagine so. That seems believable. The, I am here for elves writing armored alpacas or llamas or whatever this happens to be. Look, the emperor's new groove is clearly the best Disney movie released in the nineties. Fight me. I know it was released in 2000. I don't care. It still counts. It's not Tyrion. No, it's not. There's no, there's no, there's no tyrannic parts to this. This isn't Tyrion. This is just the expansion of that. Tyrion will get heralded with a whole new thing. That'll be when they release a new Lumeneth book. He'll have his own new forces. This is just the continued expansion of the, the techlion forces that we said, right? So whether it's some kind of like whatever's going on here with this animal, I'm here for it. I hope it's some kind of cool camel or alpaca or something like that. Uh, and I like, first of all, that sounds amazing. Uh, don't get your hatred around me. Okay. This is great because look, I know Tom, you don't love this because you're like, I only like horses or eagles or dragons. I don't like other cool animals or lions. Sure. Okay. Yes. Exactly. Tom has like this one cadre of animals and it's only the stuff that he initially liked when he first saw high elves. That's it. He will never like anything else. It doesn't matter how good it is. It doesn't matter how cool it is. It was irrelevant. There are zero other creatures that Tom will ever accept. Go ahead, Tom. It has to do with the iconography. It's not just the animals themselves. Now. I don't want to hate on the Gatorade that some people love. And so if this is your thing, you know what? Love your alpaca. That's fine. It's just not mine. That's fine. I understand. Good for you, Tom. Good for you. But yeah, I think this is an amazing idea. I want to see more weird stuff like this. This is what I want. This is why I'm here and playing AOS and not generic fantasy tabletop game 7.2 that exists because I want fantasy. Bring me the weird. To be clear, somebody said be grateful they aren't writing platypie. They may as well be. First of all, amazing. That would be great. But first of all, we should be pricing the platypus as a cool AOS creature in some way. Because what you're demonstrating to me, Vince, is I am 100% right. Because in what I just named the platypie is in the same class for me of ridiculous. And for you, you're like, yes. And so, yes, they are the same class for you. And that absolutely tells me no thank you. Sure. What I'm saying is I would love to see the AOS sculptors take on something like a cool platypus monster that had long legs and could ride around. I think what's happening here. Duck build furred creature. Yes. That had poisonous talons. I think the elves are trying to rival your barnyard busters. Sure. Because they now have cows and alpacas and other farm animals. Yes. So we just need to wait for the chocobo chickens. And what's another farm animal? And we have horses already. So we have horses, cows, alpacas. We just need chickens. I mean, luminous are more of a South American farm. Whereas my orcs are more of a North American farm. But there you go. Well, it doesn't matter. We have the new barnyard busters are out there. Yes, I understand. And yes, these guys seem to be desert based. Like this particular legion seems to be basically desert based. So probably having some kind of camel or alpaco or some creature like that is probably why they're there. Oh, yeah. Pigs. Pigs are the other thing that I forgot. Sure. Look, man. You want to bring in some porco rosso. I'm all about it. Go ahead. Yeah. And so what we're going to get is rather than doing like the wild boars, it'll be like buck naked, like pink pigs. Would I want somebody so Keith asked what I want these outlandish ideas for slanesh? Yes. You're talking about an army that rides around on anteater, Swedish steam cooker, like indescribable creatures with human legs. Like, yeah, man, I'm in for the weird. I think I think I signed on for that a long time ago. When I saw those new weird things that they have, those reptilian anteaters that they're riding around, I was like, yep, in for this 100%. So yeah, man, you're not going to catch me out. No. Yeah. Weird. Yeah. Remember Vince, his favorite model of last year was the mindsealer sphere ranks. Correct. Exactly. I'm in for Lava's. It's very clear here. Vince's aesthetic taste is very particular. I like Lava's. I don't know what to tell you. You mix a Lava with something else. You've got a winner on my hands. Will you buy the Lama elves, Vince? Will I buy the Lama elves? No, because I just don't like them. Because you like the mountains. I do like the bull mountains. I do like the mountains. And now you like the potential of Lama elves. No, I'm keeping my powder dry for Angel elves, homie. Like if Tyrion comes out and they're like weird. And again, when I say Angel elves, you know how I feel about this. I want biblical angels. You want biblical. Not Renaissance angels. I want six wings and eyes set in the wings and like rings of fire and stuff, just like crazy town. Like wheels of fire, the whole deal. Yeah, yeah. That's what I want out of my Angel elves. So when they show up and say, do not be afraid, it makes sense. Yes, correct. Absolutely. Because you're, because they're a weird nightmare creature. Yeah, like you need to, you need to open with that when that's what you look like. Yes, absolutely. I mean, if you show up and you're just like a hot person, if you're like Lucifer from the show, Lucifer and you show up and you're like, do not be afraid. I'd be like, I'm not. You're a pretty attractive guy. What's going on, man? What do you need? It's up Tom Ellis. How can I help? All right. So anyways, um, yeah, these guys are cool. I'll be interested to see what this whole release is. It's interesting that we're splitting releases like this. Um, I, I do think this is a portent of how kind of a lot of things are going to go going forward, uh, where, where like we don't get between the slanesh and now the luminous, we're seeing the armies broken up, right? Into things. And I think that's probably going to continue to happen. Uh, where we have like, uh, where we have like a full army, quote unquote, like it releases, right? And it's playable, but then we end up expanding it not super long after a year or two later. We move away from the four year cycle. Yeah. Well, I think there's an advantage to it where they can. Yeah. One, it keeps those people more invested more regularly. Right. And two, it also was sort of less overwhelming if they want to do a big release because then they like people will, we'll just not like, I can't paint all that or whatever. Right. It makes it less intimidating. You know, if it's kind of, if it's kind of broken out, they're kind of forcibly helping us with, with the problem while still giving us plenty of stuff to buy over time. So that's great. Okay. Which hunter. Oh, so yeah, now we've talked about all the elves, all the elves are done. I'm excited for them. I can't wait to see. Oh, three kits. Sorry. I'll talk about that. Let's while this is waiting to update. So Tom can see the image. Um, three kits, sword masters, which I still think will be the new Vinari thing because they, I think they telegraph that too hard. Cloud mage and, uh, the, this kit, the, the writers, right? That we just saw that we're talking about the story that are there. I don't think any of those you've just described are heroes. Do you think we'll get a hero too? Do you think we'll get another alpaca hero? Or will it be part of the kit? Like it was cloud writer was a hero. I don't think so. I think, I think the cloud writers are, um, like an actual unit, like a three, like a three packet elite unit, like a, a, a zinchen light on disc. Oh, because they're being, like the blue scribes are being harried by, by, uh, by groups of these guys. That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Cool. Um, yeah. All right. I dig that. Uh, that could be really cool. I would actually be much more on board for that as a unit than as a, as a singular hero. I think that'd be great. Uh, will we get a hero with it? Yeah. I would imagine so. It's hard to believe they do a release of just units and not a hero. I would love it if the cloud guys were a cool unit. That's a good idea, Tom. I think that'd be a really neat match to the like zinchen lightened or those kinds of three packs of units. Right. It's cool. The, uh, the other, uh, what are the, the bow Zangor. Yeah, yeah. It's okay. Sky fires is what you're going for. There we go. Absolutely. They're like an anti-fire wizard unit. Yeah, sure. This army has no problem making units into wizards. Right. Like army is already wizard. So I have to be a hero. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't like to have to be a hero to be a wizard. All right. Now back to vampire hunter D over here. Uh, okay. So could not be happier to be right. Clearly, by the way, this is both those rumor engines. As you said, Tom, it is one thing. The guy has both in his hands. Right. Like you can see the hammer from the rumor engine, the, you can see this crossbow or whatever is up over his shoulder. Dude has stakes everywhere. Vampire stakes. Yep. Uh, did I send you the image of the, of the cover of that GW novel, the, like the old world novel with the vampire hunter. With Tollis. And do we have it right this time? Okay. I don't know. Uh, the callous and toll. Um, darn it. I got it backwards again. Can not remember his names. Here. Here. Hold on. Pause. Berserk 212 said it's not a shotgun. It's not a crossbow. It's a stake launcher. Yeah, of course. That's exactly correct. Berserk. And I hate that. I can't get it. Tom, but that's fine. Oh, you can get it. It's fine. Sorry. Can I share my screen? Is that possible? Here, I'll get it. Tom, it's fine. Do we, do we live in a world where I can. Anyways, I, this literally looks like one of the witch hunters from, um, from the like AOS chronicles novel, like the old world novel, like come to life. Um, and so the question is, there's the image. I'll just put it up on the screen big sale for a minute. Yeah. Like us out. Like if you look at like the bell, you look at like the coloration on the cloth on this guy. Like everything it is literally as if like it's the, from the cover of this witch hunter novel. Um, and so like this is a witch hunter period. Sure. But I mean clearly focused on the new threat of vampires. Right. Okay. I'm going to put the image right here. Uh, yeah. This guy is, I am beyond stoked for this. Make this the whole order of easier. Let's see it. I don't just want one guy like, please make this a whole thing. You want to talk about a thing I would buy hard and fast and just be clicking that buy button. Oh my God. This dude looks so cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. This is an army. If this is an entire army. Sure. I'm in. I'm in. Absolutely. Just like I was with witch elves. I am 100% in on this guy. If he is an entire army. Yeah. The downside chance here. We know it's not an underworld thing because we have all those matched out and he wouldn't. But it could be a warhammer quest. But it could be the warhammer quest thing you mentioned, which would make me very sad. That would be so sad. It would be so sad. As long as you can still get used him in AOS, it'll be okay. That's cool. If he can just be a city's hero and he's a cool new city's hero, I don't hate that. So if this is a couple cool figs that get expanded, maybe we get a new city, there is a cool version of that that they could do with the existing stuff with just a few new kits. So make it new warhammer quest. There's four new heroes. They end up in cities of Sigmar and we get a new city that's kind of focused on this in some way or whatever rules for these people who are hunting in their cities. Cool. Okay, that could be a great way to play it. I'm not opposed to that. Because then we're still in a new army book and I'm fine. Right? Yeah. That would be perfectly good. What's up, re-rolling ones, Jack? Hey, buddy, I hope you're having a good day. So the... But honestly, I want an army of this so bad. Like, so bad. Give me the force. If we got an order of Aesir or devoted of Sigmar army, I'm 100% in. Yeah. So like, none of this was in cities and it was just an expansion for it. Right? Like, it's not a new battle tone. It's just cities of Sigmar to the orders of Aesir or something like that, right? Right. Great. Fine. Again. Good. Good. Cool beans. And if that's a case, I'm in. Like, I'm 100% in. Like, I'm going to... I'm going to pre-announce this. Sure, absolutely. Because look, just this little bit of this dude, I was like, holy crap. This guy's amazing. And the fact that I hadn't put together that he's clearly wielding a lever action stake launcher. Yeah. Wow. Like, I am very excited about this dude. Ah, simple witch hunter picture. How many of my hopes and dreams I'm going to pour into you? Only to likely have them dashed against the rocks, but that's okay. So I went and bought, like, before they discontinued them, all of the old warrior priests models. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Like all the variants. So like all the iterations of the warrior priests from Forge World and from all the classic stuff. And I have the witch hunter, like the witch hunter stuff from old school. So like I actually have the start of an Order of Aesir army. Like I have a bell from Screaming Bell for a chariot that I was going to do a big church bell, like Order of Aesir style army. So like I've already got the makings of this. Yeah. No, I get you. Yeah, it's not. My body is ready. Because Old World, by the way, is too far away. It's like a concept art stage, not in we made models and they're painted. It's not Old World. I don't think it's more time because they're not going to do anything with more time. They'll do more time when they do Old World. Like that's an easy fit. They'll do Old World and then they'll make a more time skirmish game for it. Like, because they like skirmish introductions to their games. Right. Right. So the new more time will come because it's the, I should state that because the Old World is also set in a past time that can then align easily to more time. Right. So, you know, the downside risk here, the sort of thing we don't want to have happen is it's literally just one guy for a new Warhammer Quest game. How much of a nightmare would that be? I mean, again, that's the worst case, but it's still not terrible. Let me sketch out a band here, Tom. If let's say we're hunting, like let's say that whatever the new Warhammer Quest game is, it is all these like kind of hunters in the darkness, right? So you've got like a new Witch Hunter, a new Warrior Priest, a new Flagellant, okay? And they're all kind of whatever, right? Yep. And or something like that, right? And then all those models just become stuff that you can use in your city's army. Again, that's fine. I would be okay with that. That would mean all these dudes are just city's models. As long as we get some new city that makes them interesting so you can use their rules in a cool way, that's fine. It's not the best case, but it's not terrible is my point, okay? Right. The best case scenario is we get a new Order of Aesir, like an army launching out from Aesir. Oh, man. Have that sitting under, you could still, again, that could be City of Sigmar II, colon the Orders of Aesir, right? Right. And like we could just have the city could be Aesir in the forces it can marshal, right, other than Stormwinds. Right. Right. Fine. That's our best case, where we get a whole army. Oh, I would just... Yeah, I know. We don't buy a lot of it. I mean, let's be honest. This is, people are here for this. That's why I hope amongst hope that there is an army because they have to know how much people want this stuff. That people are here for this, right? Right. Yep. So I just, you know, I think that's likely. Could it be a war request set in the old world? No. I don't think they'll do that. It just doesn't make sense. They're going to live in their current setting until they have a different setting. There's no reason for them to left turn and publish something like that. I hate you, Doom. If these witch hunters are riding hippos... Well, then they would be truly deadly. All right. So, yeah. Anything else we want to say about the witch hunter other than he is B to the A. I love it. I hope their terrain piece is a witch pyre. Dark. Okay. Well, you saw how that ended. They can erect a new one every time they kill a wizard or priest hero model. Yeah, sure. Sure. I would just like to point out how that ended for these guys in Castlevania, the anime series on Netflix. That did not end well for them. So be careful, you know, what you end up with here. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. Now let's talk about this guy. So, as I said, we're going to leave the death model with the shield out for a second. It's clearly a new skeleton of some kind, but there's too little to tell. This guy we can actually see a lot. Okay. So let's talk about this guy, Tom. Okay. Now, the reason I have this shot, I have two different shots of this guy. The reason I kept this shot, and this is only here in the video for like a half a second, is because you can clearly see his other hand and that he's holding something unusual in a weird way, like keys or something. Like I could make out. Yeah, like he's holding something that's not necessarily a sword or he's holding a sword in a weird way. It's just in his top fingers. The handle that comes through the, with a hook that comes through the fingers. Yeah, it could be like a small pistol or something like it's like, it kind of has a pistol feel given where his index finger is, right? It looks like it's under a guard. You see what I'm saying? It looks like he's holding like a, a small pistol. Yeah. Right? But it has to have any trench coat feel though, of which hunter as well. It does, but I'm, I'm, but when we get to the next image, I think we're going to go a different way, but sure. Sure. I think this is the death guy. His skin is also green. His skin is also green. Yes. And then, so here's the front version of this guy with his axe and his little scruffy beard. So I think this guy's clearly an orc. Some people had said they thought this is like an ogre beard. Well, yeah. So like, I think it, like, so initially I, I thought it was an orc. Like I was 100% behind that this dude is an orc. And I, and I base that on the hands. So the hands with the fingernails. Yeah. And then also the teeth, like the gums, like, like, not the teeth themselves, but the gums around the teeth, because like that's how they do. I understand that. He just doesn't have an over build. Well, and so the question is, is, um, but because the teeth are worn down as much as they are. Um, like, I wonder if this is an emaciated ogre. I think it's an orc. I think it's clearly an orc. Do you think it is an orc? Okay. Well, that was my initial. I thought it was an orc initially. Yeah. And then wondered if it was an emaciated undead ogre. So this is a death guy as near as I can read. I mean, we should point out the video ends with like destruction, blah, blah, decadence and death or whatever, you know, so like, okay, cool. Uh, do any orcs have facial hair? Sure. If they want them to like instantly orcs have a beard. If they decide that these orcs have a beard, right? Like, right. So that's fine. And I think this guy's dead. I think they, they, they, again, the pitting on the weapons and stuff. Yeah. They love this. It's traditional for death. Yeah. It's one of their like visual signifiers for death. Right. They use these different like visual cues to separate things. Uh, and this guy, let's just take a look at this coat again. Yes. You said it kind of looks like the witch hunter coat. I would point out it kind of looks like a piratey coat, Tom, especially with these like a fucking ear coat, especially with these things. So, uh, and his little, his little. Yeah. Like, uh, I'm back on board for, for pirates, but we might not just be getting vamp pirates. We might just be getting like dead pirates. Dead pirates. Yeah. Yeah. Like we're talking about a broader death release where we've got a sort of pirate force. No, no, no, this is just now, you know what this tells me, by the way, if this is indeed an undead pirate orc. Which, okay, already amazing. Yeah. Okay. If that is the case, two things. We're not getting vamp pirates as a faction. Right. Okay. We're not. Yeah. What we're getting is we're getting a war band. We're going to get a war band. That's that is pirate ish. Like again, Wraith fleet or whatever, you know, and that it's not a broader on a release. Sure. Two options for this guy. Let's chart out the options. Option one. Yeah. This is another member of the crew of the underworlds war band releasing in March, which I think is where you're going. I think that's what this is. I think he is part of the crew of an undead war band, probably pirated by a vampire. Yep. And like, and that, that will be the extent of our release. I don't think we'll see that in a four army. If that does happen, and if this is mixed death stuff, we're not going to get a four army. Sure. So option one, exactly right. Option one. And seemingly that would make sense, right? If this is the second, like this is the vampire's sort of undead or pirate bruiser. Right. Right. And like in death, it would give them a good example to do two different races to have a cool one off sculpt of a, of a dead orc. Right. That kind of thing. Right. So it, then it could, this could just be the second member of that crew. Right. I don't want that to be true for the record. This is not what I want. This is what I think will happen. Yep, yep, yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. So that's option one. Okay. Which is probably the likely option. Okay. So I want to talk with, again, I'm not a fate, man. I'm an odds man. Right, right. Right. Right. And so, Beater undead beater, right? There's on Bork beater Her it's her number two sure Okay, Brian says it says if it's an oracle eat my hat. Well, I Don't know feels pretty oracle to me, but that's fine. We could see what else it is But it's the point is it's part of that crew. Okay? Yes. All right The It could like it could also be a skinny like it could be a very emaciated ogre zombie sure that's fine It doesn't have the build but again, you might be right. Could be a rotten ogre. That's right Either way still part of that crew, right? I tend to think it looks like an orc, but it could be a rotten ogre And you've painted a couple but painted a couple but I mean again, who knows, you know like again I you know as somebody said orcs have claws not fingernails I mean orcs just tend to have sharp fingernails But you know, I don't know that there's a huge difference there. They're not talon to beasts They just tend to let their their their nails grow into sharp fangs. They could always not do that, but again, who knows, okay? The by the way, we haven't seen the top of this but this dude has a tricorn hat, you know that, right? Of course he does. Yes Grinaldi the ornamented shield is from a different model The one that we saw that is a skeletal model. You can see the bone leg and the bone hand gripping the weapon That was we talked about that in the video up top So I can jump back to the video and show it in a second if there's any questions But the the model with the big ornate but dead shield is is is a skeletal That's okay At any rate the the second option is that in our death release that's coming like we know There is a death release coming. Okay, right and I one of the things good And I still think it's going to be largely like vampire driven But I think we're going to as I said on on the preview show Looking back at all of the different models. It's clear that we're getting a lot of different death Right, we're getting a different take on it. We'll probably get different sculpts. It'll be more than just vampires We'll have their minions too, right, right? So the other option is this is part of some kind of crew where we've got like just dead Like the other option the less likely option but one I would hope for is that there's again we get like the more Tark of the abyss or something like that and And it has the Are we sure this is the same as the last image Yes, I if you spin it around you can actually see the axe in one of the back images like in this if you let This image spin all the way around you actually can see the axe it is offhand Yeah, so yes, I am sure this is the same model uh Like here to here is the same guy now the shield guy is different um the The other options we're talking about like, you know death pirates dead pirates ZOM pirates whatever you want to call them, right? And so that would be kind of our best case scenario, right? Just to remind everybody here I'll go back to what I was talking about in the video here's because I kept it up Here's the guy that's the guy with the shield. You can see the skeletal hand. You can see the skeletal leg Right, so this is a different model With a with a long cloak not a coat with a different weapon load out just stuff like that, right? okay Just to remind everybody who's new or wasn't there when we reviewed the video earlier in the video This is you can see the bony skeletal leg right here This is a skeletal creature with a rotten shield and a bony hand, right? Yeah, so okay cool beans We all agree different models. We're back on board now. Let's get back to to this guy. Okay You know the other option is that we have like a vampire coast Subfaction where there's like vampires the lead lots of dead minions and zombies and stuff like that in the eventual death release Where it's just like the more Tark of the abyss leads this new thing and we've got five six new kits And that's kind of that faction under this more Tark and then you've got all this other new death stuff under other under the existing death leaders Right, I've said before I think they're going to do new blood knights. I think that one just feels automatic That's that's a moneymaker pure and simple. I think it's something that the sculptors would have wanted to re-sculpt Yeah, right Yeah, so it just feels like I Think it just feels like either so those are the two options one. This is the second crew member of the March Underworlds warband two we're gonna get this as a sub theme in the full death release Those are the two options to me Well, so so what it tells me though is that I mean I hear that but because of his jacket It tells me that he is themed nautical Mm-hmm So I agree Why do what that means is that yes either he is constrained as a crew member? Or He's part of an expanded faction within that's piratey Yeah, okay, I mean what I'll say is this when we did a like a things we most wish for maybe this was like last year's Show I think this was maybe last year's show When we did our prediction show yeah, yeah, and I talked about a death army that has like undead things that aren't humans And like this seems no matter which way we go this seems that it's definitely not a dead human I can be sure of that like that Yes, I'm willing to put my money down on the table on that one, right? But that's what I'm saying like regardless I'm happy with it. Yeah, because I love us getting dead not humans You know like because I think I remember that like I made the joke when you're talking about the skeletons that like necromancers Only race human skeletons. They don't raise no other bodies around apparently. Yeah. Yes But so that's the first thing and then somebody had asked in the comments of hey Do you think that they'll take this as a hint like if you don't get vampires this time? Gw will see the demand. I mean, let me just say I think they already see the demand is that we're getting a warband regardless Yeah, whether it's part of the army. They know we want it They want it because they've clearly made a warband regardless if they if we wanted an entire army And test bed for their concepting sculpts like things like Yeah, we're in request and underworlds tend to be test beds for concept sculpts And so at the soonest if that is the case and it is a test bed and they're testing the market The earliest that you can expect an expansion like that would probably be about 18 months, which is what we saw with flinish. Yeah Well, so that's would have been about 18 months after the original reason which makes sense like if something gets fast-tracked It could already be at a concept stage and they could have test sculpts and then so then they're just filling out the rest, right, right They're fitting in the schedule. They're having the you know molds engineer yada yada Yeah, and so I think that like I suspect that I Don't want this to be the case But I suspect that the vampires are only this small warband, but if we raise enough ruckus I think that and people really buy into this warband We could get a full line sure get ready now if I'm wrong Then you know I'm gonna have a camper and I'm probably gonna buy two new armies this year sure both and the witch hunters Worst-case scenarios is this this isn't entire armies and these are all just one-off models Right and all the things you want as armies Tom are not armies and all the things you in the armies You aren't the things you want. We'll see if Tom has a Flip the coin Tom has the best 2021 or the worst 2021 who knows That's what we're here But what we didn't see this time by the way like we don't have anything else, right? No, that's it That's the last image So let me point out though that what we didn't see is Anything that wasn't in the carts So in our predictions. Oh sure. Yeah. Yeah in our prediction show like there's nothing in these images That aren't in alignment with what we had called Yeah, yeah, they are in fact the exact armies that we had predicted in yeah new death LRL part two Right like yeah an order of easier vampire hunter. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I mean like Ta-da sure sure sure. No, I mean I think that stuff was all just in the cards, right? Like it just I don't know what you mean now. Yes, it was absolutely there I think that was just reading the tea leaves of looking at the Looking at the rumor engines. It's what was clear to be there. Okay now These could still be very like we could still be off, right? Like these could not be full armies. He's good, you know, yada yada Oh There will be a new death release. That's not a question like there will be a whole new death release, right? It's just probably not the pirate warfare. Thank you goops. I appreciate it buddy The question is yes, how much of it is piratey, right? And that's still what remains to be seen So no, I was very happy with all this It's gonna be a really interesting first quarter, right? Because I think we'll see most of this stuff come to light over the next couple months I mean obviously the slush release will actually happen. We'll figure out. We'll know the next broken realms book I still my money still on Gordrack as we said in the previous show, right? We'll probably get a better look at the death faction because one would believe whenever they do they're either a Depticon full reveal show because that there won't be an adept con but they'll do a live show Somewhere in there. I don't know if they'll do an LBO when at one of those two they're gonna spoil whatever this Whatever death stuff is coming, right? So either in the either late in January where we see it then or in the March reveal show Yep, because with those cons canceled, they're still gonna do those live reveal shows There's no reason they're not gonna get 40,000 people to come watch something on Twitch I mean, you know, it's pretty easy. So Yeah, I'll tell you what I was most happy about with this Tom all the really interesting stuff was a OS Right the 40k stuff. I was like, okay, that's cool. Like I okay meet a cannon Some kind of chaos war machine Yeah Imperial night thing and an adeptus mechanic a sky that we already saw previously. So like Okay cool Yep So, I mean, I'm hoping we see a lot of this stuff soon Yeah, the big question for me by the way, so like let's say that this is the first six months of releases Sure, but I think I think we can I think we can pretty solidly say this is somewhere between the first three to six months, right? Just knowing what we might So does that mean that the order of a zero is not an actual release But but a like a hero pack like I called with the Callison toll Hard to tell it would be earlier in the year than you're talking about right because we had placed that firmly in q3 Right. Well, we right because we had talked about in the same with the LRL is we had placed that in q3 in June Yeah, feels so that feels like we're getting it much sooner than I expected Which is great. I like I'm happy about that good. That sounds fantastic. Maybe that'll be April, you know, I don't know It feels like if they were gonna slot it in that's where they'd stick it, right that it would be the April Yeah, I can see that I Mean, I'm excited like a witch hunter like more than anything else that witch hunter has me on board Absolutely. I mean this is great stuff between pirate coat Orc or ogre ax man Boson zombie guy here this incredible witch hunter that we cannot get in our hands soon enough and then Lama riding elves and cloud riding monkey king Goku elves It's a bit. It's gonna be a banner year all around. That's for sure He really is he really is all right So is broken realms Tyrion on the docket? No, no, it is not There's no Tyrion coming this year put that to rest like Tyrion is 2021 at early or 2022 Sorry at earliest I keep forgetting what year it is now 2022 at earliest sorry like I want it too, but it's just that no it's way out in the future All right, so there we go. Did we get anything wrong? What else did you see? Drop your thoughts in the comments. Don't forget to hit like. Thank you all for watching This was a super fun. Even though it was a miniature reveal. It was really great Can't wait to see all these figs in reality and beautiful full, you know, nice lit shots As opposed to this noir lighting they do their rumor engine shots in So don't forget to hit like subscribe if you didn't already But as always We will be back and we will see you next Wednesday