 land conservation so that the fragile pitland ecosystem can continue to support the community's living needs in a sustainable manner. At the end of the day proper management of pitland is necessary to achieve the balance between ensuring the protection of pitlands while also allowing it to be utilized for the welfare of the local communities. Housekeeping, the snack and tea are already served in the in-front top of this room so we would like to invite you to enjoy the snack and tea. Through the International Tropical Pitland Center or ITPC many countries can share knowledge, research results and integration and the management of tropical pitlands. Ladies and gentlemen, distinguished guests, we would like to invite you all of you to enter the global forestry hall and take your seat because this session will begin shortly. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we would like to invite you to be seated on the first row because we will begin the session shortly. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, may we kindly request everyone to be seated as we will start the session in a few minutes. Kindly switch your mobile phone to silent mode and your cooperation is highly appreciated. Thank you. Your Excellencies, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, to open our event please stand up for the Indonesian anthem. Please be seated. Your Excellencies, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, to open our event please enjoy this traditional welcome dance from Gettar Pakwan Bogor, West Java. Please enjoy. Give a round of applause to the welcome dance Gettar Pakwan Bogor. Bismillahirrahmanirrahim, His Excellency Ambassador Kanada, His Excellency Ambassador Korea, Honorable Director-General of C4, Honorable Director-General of Fordia, Honorable Director-General of Social Forestry and Environmental Partnership, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Selamat pagi and very good morning. Welcome to the Global Forestry Hall at the Center for International Forestry Research for the signing of the Memorandum of Understanding New Paradigm for Forest Research and Development on the World Stage between the Ministry of Environment and Forestry and Center for International Forestry Research in Bogor, February 26, 2019. It is my pleasure to be your master of ceremony for this occasion. My name is Desi Kawati. Her Excellencies, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, today during this event we will celebrate scientific collaboration and achievement in research, development and innovation of environmental and forestry and the agenda for today as follows. Opening remarks, the signing of MOU on Scientific and Technical Cooperation between Fordia and C4, launching of the International Tropical Pitland Center ITPC Interim Secretariat Office, recognizing Fordia as the best research and development agency, launching the new hybrid of silkworm produced by Fordia and the brown bag discussion with the theme of social forestry and forest land tenure in Indonesia, four years challenge. Your Excellencies, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, next agenda is opening prayer. In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. May this event be a full event and a full mercy and may we, ordinary people, be grateful for the mercy and mercy that you have given to us. May Allah, the Most Merciful, give us patience, faith and determination, so that we can present all our activities and activities to be the actions of our God. May Allah, the Most Merciful, show us that what is right is right and we can walk it and show us that what is wrong is wrong and we can leave it. May Allah, the Most Gracious, grant us all our sins, our parents' sins, our teachers' sins and receive all our actions. Thank you very much, Mr. Sutisna. Your Excellencies, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, next is the introductory remarks. Please help me to welcome the Director General of Center for International Forestry Research, C4. Dr. Robert Nasi. Excellency Minister Jo-Yung Yijin, Bapakadis Yuschanthor, representing the Honorable Minister Cetino Baia, distinguished guests, colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to C4. It is my great pleasure to have you all in the global forestry hall and we are here to celebrate our long-standing collaboration with Indonesia and Fordia. And you all know Indonesia is a mega-diverse country, abhorring the third largest tropical forest, half of the world's peatland and a quarter of the world's mangrove. More than 50 million people are directly dependent on forest in Indonesia, which is about the size of my own country. For their livelihood via direct or indirect employment, non-timber forest product and wildlife. Forest and forest resources are crucial for the country and the world in fighting climate change. In 1993, the Center for International Forestry Research was established as a global center for excellence in forestry research with Indonesia as its headquarter and Indonesia as a host country. As a host country, Indonesia has all and automatic seats on C4 Board of Trustees and is therefore directly involved in the management of our organization. C4 prioritized research in six thematics areas designed for maximum impact on forest, landscape and people. With global targets in place under the sustainable development goal and the Paris Agreement, C4 delivers cutting-edge research, builds capacity on the ground, and forms powerful partnerships. We support Indonesia in planning the nationally determined contribution which are central to the Paris Agreement and reducing emissions at the country level and adapting to impact of climate change. In addition, we also have been supporting our colleagues in Indonesia in achieving low emissions standard. We also support the potential for various other environmentally sound measures including low-carbon development research into equal opportunity, gender, justice and tenure, forest management and restoration, forest and human well-being, sustainable landscape and food, value change, finance and investment. In our work in Indonesia, we strive to advance research on forest, landscape and people and to bring positive impact to all landscapes and communities. The social forestry in Petus created by President Jokowi and implemented by his government will be a game changer and C4 is actively supporting this effort. Forty-eight percent of C4 staff are Indonesian national and C4 has enabled more than 100 Indonesian employees to pursue further studies and more than 230 internships have been undertaken by Indonesian students at C4. We currently have projects underway in 19 provinces across the Indonesian and Sripalago and during C4 presence in Indonesia, we have run more than 120 forestry related research project and spent more than 125 million dollars in personnel operation and services. We put a specific focus on issues related to the conservation and certain values of peatland and mangroves and this carbon-rich ecosystem is our priority for the ministry in C4. We are also fully committed with our colleagues from Fordia and the ministry to develop the international peatland center following meter cities played during the Brazzaville summit and Coting Minister city in the last three years, we have managed to reduce the annual deforestation rates for 1.09 million hectares to 610,000 hectares and 480,000 hectares in 2017. We realize that forests are a major contributor to carbon emission, mainly to the forest fire, especially in peatland. Forest represent 18% of our national emission reduction target and are expected to contribute to over half of our Paris Agreement target. That was a code by Ibu City during the Pacific Rainforest Summit. We believe C4 works helped in achieving these remarkable results and we remain committed to supporting our colleagues at the ministry to do our renewal memorandum of understanding. Thank you very much. Thank you Dr. Robert Nasi. Your Excellencies, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, next we would like to invite Director General of Fordia, Dr. Agus Giustianto to deliver the keynote remarks from the Minister of Environment and Forestry. Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Very good morning to all of you. First of all, I regret to inform you that the Minister of Environment and Forestry, Ibu City Nurbaya could not join in this occasion due to the unavailable meeting with the presidents. So, on behalf of the Minister of Environment and Forestry, I would like to deliver keynote three maps. Honorable Dr. Robert Nasi, Director General Center for International Forestry Research, C4. Honorable colleagues from partner countries, honorable representative from local government, research institutions, environment, non-government organizations, international scientists and researchers, journalists, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen. Firstly, let's extend our cordially wishes to deliver gratefulness for C4 and ICRA in a new year 2019, having prospective benefits to favor work after the merger. As a country where headquarters are located, we expect the merger could be a way to take the escalation of complexity challenges to lead a policy goes to better routes. In this good opportunity, also I would like to extend my sincere appreciation to C4, that already has been established since 1997, within its success and failures. My sincere gratitude to our colleagues, come from international entities on research, non-governmental organization, district government, also journalists who assist products of research become available news from forest land. It is my honor to have this opportunity to address our common understanding as two faults. First, corrective measures to managing forest, sorry, to managing complex challenges of Indonesian tropical forests. Secondly, a new paradigm of research and development. Distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, regarding the corrective measures to managing complex challenges of Indonesian tropical forests. Blessed with a tropical climate and rings of volcanoes, Indonesia with more than 17,000 islands are located between two continents, Asia and Australia, and between two oceans, the Pacific Ocean and the Indian Ocean, brings to the extremely high level of biodiversity and endemicity and has a highest level of biodiversity. Covers only 1.3 percent of the Earth's land surface. It harbors over 10 percent of the world's flowering plants, mammal, reptiles, amphibians, birds and fish species. Indonesia with more than also the rich culture, more than around 300 ethnic communities with 742 languages and cultures construct traditional knowledge to manage their forehead and living. Within abundant nature resources is also facing complex challenges. In 2000s, recorded rate of deforestation was 3.51 million hectares per year. In year 2015, showed 1.9 million hectares per year. The new policies and actions trajectories was flooding the to address the threats. After 4 years, at 2018, recorded deforestation rate is 0.48 million hectares per year, reducing 6 times from the year 2000. Distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, the Indonesian government has formulated a wide range of policies intended to facilitate the effective management of peat ecosystems that are located within industrial plantation forests and large agriculture, especially oil palm plantations. New policies to manage these peat ecosystems are intended to better prevent fires both on these peat lands and on plantations. All companies and citizens are required to comply with these government policies. At the field level, fire prevention and management are carried out by integrated fire patrols. The government has provided support for the establishment of community-based organizations such as the Community Fire Awareness or Maserakat Peduli Api Groups. A number of measures have been implemented to improve the management of forest resources and the forestry sector, including measures to improve the institutional capacities of forest management units. Reforestation initiative, planting programs in areas located for community-based social forestry programs, measures to prevent deforestation by reducing and controlling the harvesting of timber in natural forest areas, and the implementation of a moratorium on the release of permanent removal from the forest areas for the development of agriculture plantations. Since the year 2015, the Indonesian government has intensified its commitment to resolve the neural conflicts related to forest land. It has achieved this through a shift from corporate-oriented to a more community-oriented approach intended to improve community-level economic development by ensuring more equitable access to land and forest resources and thus promoting community prosperity. More equitable access to land and forest resources is being achieved through the implementation of policies to designate a significant portion of the forest area for agrarian reform programs, or TANAH Object Reforma Agraria, or TORA, and through the conduct of programs that facilitate the use of resources in forest areas following the principle of social forestry. One of the main concerns of the TORA program is the aspect of economic justice. First, peace of access to land, second, business opportunities for communities, and the third, improvement of rural human resources through vocational training and increased experience with business and the private sector. By 2019, the total area of land from the non-forest area that is designated for agrarian reform, or TORA, will reach 4.8 million hectares, spread across 26 provinces. Meanwhile, a total of forest areas to be utilized for social forestry program that will reach 12.7 million hectares at the whole of Indonesia. If these targets are achieved, this will represent a significant positive step. The Ministry of Environment and Forestry has promulgated a range of regulations to support both TORA and social forestry. These programs are intended to ensure the achievement of social justice and equality in the area of land holding and the use of forest resources by communities throughout Indonesia. The Indonesian government is currently working hard to address issues related to inequality in these areas to ensure that all Indonesians, particularly farmers and those in rural areas, benefit from improved living standards and welfare. Economic justice through access to land, business opportunities, and focus channel training. There have been major shifts taken place in the country toward a new perspective of sustainability through integration of two large portfolios for a stray and environment. Distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen, regarding the new paradigm of research and development, let me draw your attention to a new paradigm on research development. Indonesia has a third largest home of tropical forest spread from west to east within a biggest risk biodiversity and culture becomes a major playground for inspiring research and development on tropical forests. Every aspect of forestry is political activity and the type of forestry which dominates in country supports a political direction to development. Thereby research and development of the role as non-linear approach. Indeed, the role of research and development is insufficient for production and co-production knowledge, but also how to ensure the production should be adopted and adapted as integral part. Decisions are not discrete and technical facts and values are intertwined. Value judgment plays a major role as a contestation of science. For instance, expert and policy makers mutually construct policy. This is to say that scientists contribute to framing of policy issues by defining what evidence can be produced and its policy significance. And those working in policy also frame scientific inquiry by defining areas of relevance and pertinent areas for investigation, jointly negotiating with what questions need to be answered and what knowledge can be provided to answer. This is sometimes referred to as co-production of science and policy. Research and development agency with CIFOR have been initiated to establish a new platform of collaboration, shift to network promotion and adoption, contestation of science, as well as collaboration rather than competition. Ensure the network established to enhance research and development's social capital, such to facilitate the flow of information, to exert influence on the powerful entities of agents, to build researchers' credentials and also to reinforce identity and recognition. Within its competency of entities, those having limited resources for collaboration and synergy put crucial things for bigger and far targets. Nowadays, at this virtual-era strategy 4.0, in which computer and automation will come together in an entirely new way, such as information transparency, simple decision-making, technical assistance, communication has been reached by research business process at the few last years. Research and development comes away to strengthen their promotions, building institution branding for sure. The new way of research process will be rewarded for their courage jumping into this new technology. In this opportunity as representative of government of Indonesia, Research, Development and Innovation Agency of Austria with CIFOR will signing agreement to renewal the collaboration with new platform. I expect both of parties could mobilize science into action and also bring international movement for people's welfare. International Tropical Pitland Center, OITPC, for example. The centers come to global central knowledge on tropical pit where virtual promotion, building intergovernmental collaboration, those are tunnels to influence global decision-making of pitlands management of management sustainable. This new way of guess ladies and gentlemen. Finally, let me take this opportunity to appreciate all parties. And lastly, I would like to take this opportunity to extend my sincere appreciation and thanks to the organizers of this important meeting. Thank you very much for your kind attention. Thank you. Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Thank you Dr. Agus Yusien. And we would like to request BAPA remains stay on the stage because our next activity is the signing of the Memorandum of Understanding on Scientific and Technical Cooperation between Fordia and CIFOR. We would like to invite the Director General of CIFOR to come to the stage to sign the MOU and we also invite to this stage Dr. Silvana and Dr. Chris Dianto from Fordia and Professor Daniel Murdiaso and also Mr. Michael Dougherty from CIFOR to come to the stage as witnesses to the signing. And Ibu Aninawir, Ibu Dr. Aninawir also come to the stage. Excellencies, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen as you may see in the screen the MOU is between Fordia and CIFOR for Scientific and Technical Cooperation and these documents are made into version in English and in Bahasa Indonesia. Please give a round of applause for this MOU and we would like to invite Director General Fordia and CIFOR to hold the MOU and take our photographers to document this important moment. Thank you. And we would like to request DG Fordia and CIFOR to remain on the stage because the next agenda is for the distribution of gifts. Director General Fordia will give the Director General of CIFOR. Please give a round of applause and the Director General of CIFOR also will give a gift for the, oh okay, there's one more souvenir to give to Director General CIFOR. Yes and the next is a gift for the Director General of Fordia from Director General CIFOR. Thank you. And once again we would like to request Director General Fordia and CIFOR to remain on the stage. The next piece of business is the presentation of a certificate from Ministry of Research and Technology. This certificate recognizes Fordia as the best research and development agency and this is a great achievement for the Ministry of Environment and Forestry and please give a round of applause. And we would like to invite Director General Fordia to deliver a short statement about this certificate. Yes. Thank you very much. Yeah, I would like to inform you that Fordia has recognized by the research and technology as one of the best institution on research and development regarding with the commitment and support on the development of Pusat Ungulan Itek, or PUI. So based on this certificate it means that Fordia now is one of the best research institution in Indonesia. I think this very honor for me and also all of our staff in Fordia and thank you very much for your kind attention. Thank you very much Director General Fordia. Next agenda we would like to invite coordinator of the International Tropical Pitland Center Interim Secretariat Dr. Haruni and also Ms. Linca and the Dari inventor of the hybrid of sick worm to come to the stage. And we also invite Director General of Social Forestry and Environmental Partnership and the Director of Forest Research Development Center. So honorable Director General Fordia would you strike the gong in the left side of this stage five times. So why five times ladies and gentlemen because it's to symbolize all the achievement and milestones that we are celebrating today. Today we are celebrating first the signing of MOU between Fordia and C4. Second launching the ITPC Interim Secretariat Office. Third recognizing Fordia as the best research and development agency for launching of a new hybrid of silkworm from Fordia. And the last session we will have a brown back discussion social forestry and forest lanterner in Indonesia for year of challenge. So please strike the gong five times. Please give a big round of applause ladies and gentlemen. Thank you very much. That's a symbol of our achievement and milestone today. So Excellencies ladies and gentlemen now we will have a next session of photo group session. So we yeah we invite Ibu Eti. Also we invite Ibu Dr. Silvana, Dr. Cristiano, Dr. Anina Weir as witnesses Mr. Michael and wait. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Excellencies this thing with case ladies and gentlemen. That's all the rough for the opening ceremony of this event and we will have a break for 10 minutes. The snack coffee is already served in the front of this hall. And the next session brown back discussion will start promptly after the break. Please enjoy the break. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen there's a housekeeping information from the committee. The restroom we will have it will have in the right social forestry and forest lanterner in Indonesia. And for this discussion we'll be lead and moderator by Dr. Zarul Mutakin the forestry policy expert. And in this discussion we will have a keynote address from Director General of Social Forestry and Environmental Partnership Dr. Bambang Suprianto and we will have four panelists Dr. Sri Suharti from Fordia Dr. Ani Adiwinathanawir from C4 Dr. Lukas Rumboko from Fordia and one social forestry practitioner from the HKM Calibiru Jogjakarta. So I would like to invite Dr. Zarul Mutakin to take lead this session. Please stage time is yours. Thank you. Thank you Ibu Desi. Ladies and gentlemen good morning. We just heard about the MOU sign and then also some remarks from the minister from Robert about the new paradigm of the research and development in forestry sector. So thank you for attending this very important event and I know you already witnessed the new era of collaboration between the Ministry of Environmental Forestry and SIVOR and this renewed MOU is a gate I think to enter new paradigm for forest research and development. And we will have four speakers here. We'll talk about new paradigm of forestry management in Indonesia to more equitable and sustainable way by providing communities greater access to forest. So I would like to invite Dr. Lukas Rumboko from the Center for Socioeconomic Policy and Climate Change and also would like to invite Ibu Dr. Ani Nawir from Center for International Forestry Research. Please come to the stage and Dr. Sri Swartini Ibu Nini from the Center for Forest Research in the forest forest and last but not least but suddenly these are practitioners of the Hutan Kemasa Rakatan or Community Forests and all of them will talk about the new paradigm of social forestry in Indonesia. 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Thank you Dr. Nawir. Thank you Dr. Nawir. Thank you Dr. Nawir. Thank you Dr. Nawir. Thank you Dr. Nawir. Thank you Dr. Nawir. Thank you Dr. Nawir. Mr. Sadali, we talked about the competitiveness of Daya Saying, which must be paid attention to the development of the social forestry. According to your experience in HKM Kalibiru, what have you been doing for a long time? And what challenges are you facing? Or maybe you will be faced by HKM Kalibiru to continue to develop and sustain what you are doing? Please Mr. Sadali. Thank you. Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Good morning everyone. We are from Indonesia because we are farmers. We can't speak English. So, I speak Indonesian. The condition in Kalibiru is that we are aware of the development process in 2001. Then, the dynamics are also quite large. There are many challenges there. Because we, farmers, know that the forestry is for the grandchildren who need to take care of their children. So, we established the forestry. Then in 2003, we got the Kulola forestry for five years. With the status of the forestry. Then, to allow the development process, we have to establish the law to achieve the law. That is what Mr. Bubati used to order to establish the cooperation law. So, we established the cooperation law in 2007, 2006. Then in 2008, in February, we got the Kulola forestry for 35 years. In this case, we got the forestry. In the past, we planted trees, hard trees that wanted to be planted because the status of the forestry was production. As time passed, the status of the forestry changed as time passed. So, with the Kulongbok, we got the Kulongbok, we got the Kulongbok, but because of the government's decision, the forestry in the past was the forestry of the people. When the government in 1938 closed the forestry, the forestry was closed. After that, the forestry was not returned to us. So, we entered the forestry because of the need for life. We had to adapt to the land. After that, we saw the results. We were happy with the good results. But with the dynamic of the forestry, from the production to the forestry, after the forestry, the farmers were confused. So, we didn't get the forestry. According to the information we heard, the population was 40 or 60. I was already 60% of the forestry. I didn't get the forestry. Sir, finally, we agreed to give the understanding to the forestry in Kulongbok, so that they would accept the forestry. After that, in 2009, we had a dream. According to the Minister of Agriculture, for the social services, there was the benefit of the forestry that we went to, and the protection of the forestry. And then, I don't know, because I... I don't know how to explain it. At that time, we went to the forestry to take the benefit of the forestry, so that we could make natural resources. With that, with a process like that, with the nature of the forestry that we are concerned about, so the forestry has not stopped from taking the benefit of the forestry. Finally, we were able to sell the forest every day, but we didn't get the forestry, sir. So, we made the forestry a place for a selfie, for a photo spot. There were 8 trees, so that those who come to visit Kalibiru to take a selfie, so that the 8 trees can be sold for 1 day, for 8 million rupiahs. And maybe, when the day comes, we can sell for 16 million rupiahs. The trees are still alive. That's it, sir. So, among the economy and the ecology, the forest can be sold. Can we create jobs for our children with the hope that the forestry of the people can be sold? So, our children, who were in Brune last year, in Malaysia, in Sumatra, and in Kalimantan, in Jakarta, are working in Kalibiru with the business that we have. Sorry, the business is industrial. So, we are working on that business and the energy that can be sold there is 264 people, sir. They are the UMP, UPA Minimal, what is it, Kulon Proko. So, what is the price? They are 1 million or 3.5 million. They will be added with money to eat, with money to eat. That will be more than 2 million. They are among them, sir. And what we can take with us in our place are OJEC, PEDAGANG, then Travel, then Agen, Agen Visata. Then, so, when we enter the same forest, I was a child, we were the youngest, we were the youngest, we were the youngest, but our children who are now entering the same forest that is under PEDAGANG, they bring a laptop, a camera, and a phone. That's it, sir. So, there are the Ushawisa in Kalibiru, and for the challenge, because now, there are many OJEC Visata who copy pastels, who copy Kalibiru, then they are made, they are added again. So, we, the farmers, for others, we also plant fruits, such as durian, chocolate, and what is it, potatoes. For potatoes, there are many fruits. In Kalibiru, more or less like that, more or less like that, sorry. We finally, peace be upon you. Peace be upon you. Applause for Mr. Sardaris. I would like to summarize what Mr. Sardaris said about the the effort from making the production forest that become the protection forest where the community will are not allowed to cut the timber anymore. So, they then switch from timber management into the landscape beauty utilization through ecotourism. So, they have six tendons, three at the timber that now, eight, I think, so this spot now can produce an income about eight until 16 million rupiah per day. Can you imagine about Steven? So, eight under 16 million rupiah and it can just like it's employed 264 people with of course the multiplier effect from OJEC from like a travel agent is very very very big. And then also the they are the employees paid through the minimum wages of a kabupaten the West Prok, Kulon Prok, I mean, West Prok. So, yeah, the West Prok, the capital of West Prok is limits, but what? So, so, but the challenge because of in in marketing, there is like a meto strategy. So, many sports surrounding the Calibiru now like copying, like imitating what Calibiru is done, making the competition is higher. So, they now try to also differentiate the business by planting multi-purpose three spaces like fruits and that can be also like produce an additional income for the community. That what the the real situation the community forestry that success has been successful on the ground. So, applause to all efforts for making social forestry running. Next, I would like to ask all of the speakers but what should be done next? We already heard from we have a challenge about how to speed up the the social forestry program. Speed up meaning that can be copied like the success story from Calibiru for example can be copied scale up to throughout the nation for example and then how to monitor the the success of the of the social forestry and so on. So, I would like to to start from from Ibuani. So, what's the next that can be done to improve or whatever we can do to to sustain the social forestry and make what the social forestry reasons what the social forestry concept philosophy be true. Yes, one. Thank you Dr. Saharul. Okay, I think I would like to address your questions by also reading to what my first point that I've been mentioning before. I think the biggest challenge would be for social forestry is still facing competing land use target setting by the other sectors. So, I think making synergy with the priority of local government economic regional development is a key and also reading with that I think more social forestry base business small-scale enterprise business model would be more visible and how that could be integrated in the process for applying any social forestry rights and I think it should be clear clarified by the ministry also who should have that roles clear agency or stakeholders that could have played that roles in facilitating the business model as part of the social forestry development particularly in pushing towards more inclusive business model. I think we discuss this Yapa in your panel when we were in the APRS we try I was part of your panel in the APRS last year we discuss about how can we move forward toward inclusive business model and who are responsible in setting the preconditions towards that and I think there's kind of five essential components in moving toward having more inclusive business model like assessment of the current business capacity trainings on policy literacy on any and also all policy related the business development because not many a local community understand that even though in our observations they are the subject of any policy but they don't really understand what are the policy about so having more you know kind of trainings for policy literacy it would be important and starting a package who should be you know responsible to doing that I mean there I mentioned there other forestry agency the OPD the provincial and district level have that kind of job descriptions in their in their agency as a KPI also the performance indicator also that they have to allocate a certain amount of budget for small scale enterprise development so why they could not you know allocate this for social forestry based business development so I think this is kind of thing and then what would be the needed incentive framework for example policy platform or payung hukung we also also been working on as I mentioned earlier also investment should be there and this should be facilitated at the provincial and district level and also at the village level and I think it's also important making more synergy with the other sectors yeah I think the social forestry working group probably you know have that kind of roles but how this can be more revitalized thank you thanks thanks Dr. Ani so we already heard about what the harmonizing all the sectors to to support the social forestry is very important especially in land use planning activities so Dr. Ani in some of that situation so how can we like relate this situation the challenge with current current effort to provide access to the communities either through the social forestry or agrarian reform so do you have any idea about what the policy through that can be implemented to achieve the target either social forestry or maybe agrarian reform in Indonesia thank you Dr. Zahrod I would like to highlight what has been stated by Park Bambang before that social forestry and Tora actually focus on the right person and the right area so for my experience doing field research which is funded by AFUCO project I found that we still have some challenges that should be handled the first is finding the right area that has been mentioned by Park Bambang if we can refer to one map policy which has been down since 2016 I think so I think all of us can refer to similar one map as a reference to deciding which area is suitable for developing social forestry of Tora because in many cases PAPC has been prepared by the government it's not matched with the map in the field and the second also I would like to raise the issue of the readiness of the community Park Bambang also already mentioned that the limited of the community in bush harvest product processing I think that is the main problem because most of agricultural products are perishable so and usually people sell their products in the small scale individually because as mentioned by Ibuani there is no you know boom desk or cooperative of the farmers so the bargaining position of the farmers is very weak so there no added value for their product so they cannot sell their product with a fair price and the third is that the first management unit as the front line smaller front line government agency I think that as the only agency that the mandate without implementation also for I think they provide with well usually from the three areas also for the location they also complain about that there is very limited budget and also human resources that makes them difficult to facilitate the implementation of the social by the communities I think that's the three main issue that should be handled there okay thanks thanks doctor and so we we have heard about the the challenge on the ground that need to be also addressed when we what we would like to improve and to speed up the the social forestry program in Asia but look as a political sociologist I would like to ask you but what's the link between the 10-year reform and the political democratic transformation in Indonesia if whether it will be good for our democracy or whatever what your findings from from your research thank you very much now Indonesia is the the third largest of democracy country in the world but based on the world report Indonesia is classified as the floor democracy it's been not full democracy and based on the six criteria first is about the pluralism about the political culture political participation and also about the democracy institution and so on and so on and I think a great reform is the foundation to increase or ingredient to increase the quality of our democracy and I'm very happy about that and this is a possibility good possibility of us to depending on our democracy and you know that the political transformation without the internal transformation is nothing maybe not have meaning much meaning to the local people I think no thanks so Mr. Bang Bang you can be proud that your job is very important and instrumental for doing for improving our democratic quality Mr. Sadali I think what is what becomes the wish of the HKA HKM Kali Biru for the future I think what hope can be said here how where and also support from the government for example or others who are needed to develop HKM Kali Biru Mr. Yes, thank you for HKM Kali Biru because since we have been using this environment since 2014 we have no development with our own business so we this challenge while now there are many business models who copy us so this is almost the same here but if they who wish from the HKM Kali Biru Mr. Kali Biru and they come to our place also asking not only playing asking how and so on our hope maybe there is development and the social development this if maybe the area can be added it can still be supported then because we have two there are 28 and 29 28 is 26 hectares 29 3 hectares so there are 29 hectares that we if we if maybe it can be added but even though it is not added the forest around we the forest also developed there is no there is no there is no there is no there is no there is no there is no here only this has not but I or I like have personally composed and we have expanded it through and for the we are I think the model of the development of the economy is the one that has the most interest. If you want to go to Kalibiru, there is only a motorbike or something like that. Then, our hope is that we accept whatever the government wants to give us. Thank you, Mr. Thank you Mr. Sadali said that now managing about 29 hectares of forest, is there any possibility to extend the area? We can ask Park Bambang here. Let Park Bambang decide by the end of this day. Okay, we still have a little bit more time. Then I would like to invite one or two comments from the floor, if there are any, about the social forestry and land tenure in the forest channel in Indonesia. Maybe five minutes each if there are any comments. I have a question more than a comment and I don't know who can answer. How do you avoid to have free riders in terms of this social forestry? Or do you avoid to have large capital coming to the community and just hijacking the process and ultimately not changing anything? Okay, anyone would like to respond to Robert about the free rider, Ibu Ani? Okay, we can just have a discussion in the cafeteria, Robert. Okay, thanks for the questions. I think, yeah, free riders, whether you like it or not, something that you have to... Yeah, you cannot really avoid that. But I think by working with different stakeholders, from village district to provincial level, if you have clear relations or little connections with all stakeholders there, then we can minimize the risk of newly come investor coming without really us knowing what the intention are. But in most cases, if this investor come with really a good will, they would come to who are the authorities on the ground. Sometimes come through the national government, sometimes they come directly to the provincial government because it's not allowed, but I think the scheme that are possible under the social forestry to collaborative work is under the kebitraan, the partnership, right? So there is actually a scheme under partnerships that actually have specified the rule of the games, you know, how to work with the private sectors. And whoever works with the community under the social forestry scheme will have a collaboration agreement, a contract agreement. Yes, it's a plus and minus. But so far the external agency, I think different agency facilitating the process. But I think it has to be clear now who should supervise or overseeing that at the district or provincial level. Okay, that's the rule of the provincial level, the Dinas Elhaka and maybe Kapeha if they are part of the kemitraan. So I think what we found out in our side, there is a kemitraan between Kapeha, between the investor, a private company who interested in planting the falcataria, the Sengon Laut and Sengon Solomon and also the cooperative who actually in day-to-day basis they are interested more to plant corn. So in the protected forest in one of the site, in our project site. So I think this sort of model, I think we should promote more and taking the lessons learned. But again the policy platform should be clear also at the provincial level. Okay. Maybe some. You know that the free rider is now moving or embedded in more complex network. He or she maybe could be your friend, could be my friend. It is difficult because now it's already changing the situation, the political situation. In the past it's maybe free rider is already, maybe it's easy too but they are powerful. Free rider embedded in the defined institution but now it's different. Moving maybe more liquid to another network. Thank you. Thank you. I think free rider is a general comment that we should face in implementing social forestry. Free riders not necessarily come from outsiders sometimes even come from inside the village. What I found in my field research is there is the dominance of some elites in the village that make the aspiration and expectation from the community cannot be raised because all of the process of the activities has been captured by the elites. So I think you should take care of it. Thank you. Thank you. So the free rider is still there but we need to address it. Last but not least, Pak Subarudi, your time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Pak Subarudi. So what we need to think according to Pak Subarudi first is how to ensure that the function of the forest can function normally so we can rehabilitate or also maybe conserve or whatever but the function and then the profit will come later on. So okay, I think I'm afraid that we are now in the end of the session. But I don't want to summarize all but at least we know that the social forestry, the forestry reform is now happening and it is challenging but it's progressing. Even if we compare the last four years with the before that one, we're progressing more. So but the next is how can we use the landscape approach and also the harmonizing all the actors within the landscape to support the social forestry program is the key to do that. So and then why? Because even though we have a good forest but forest is a common poor resources. Forest needs a property right system that can manage the resources sustainably. So social forestry is like an effort to put a good property right system within the resources using rules that make rights. Rules that set up by the ministry that can make rights for the community to access the forest and to like what Babamang said about the inequality can be reduced, poverty can be alleviated and then by the end the sustainability of the resources can be achieved. I think that's all our discussion today. Thank you very much for your attention and attention. Thank you very much for all panels here and with the Alhamdulillah with Alamin, I would like to close this session. Thank you very much. So today we will have the ribbon-cutting ceremony marking the official opening of the IPPC intern Sector Sharia and the second will be hosted the forest research drama to have a dialogue with the sales department about the dynamic of food-alipating natural silk for the forest communities. While we are waiting for this ceremony, we would like to invite members of the C4 department, members of the C4 here, members of the Social Forestry, distinguished guests from the international and international partners and also all the viewers to visit the IPPC intern Sector Sharia and for the ladies and gentlemen who are trying to reach the cutting ceremony we will have a break. Alhamdulillah is already available at the front of this hall. Then I would like to close the session in this hall as well. Thank you very much for your time and attention. And please enjoy your time. May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon you. Thank you very much.