 All the day has been very exciting actually. It's given me a lot of pleasure because I think now The contrast with about the first meeting I went on tropical deforestation In the Amazon in 1972 and this one is just it's just incredible Well the contrast isn't there There was a total confrontation Between people who wanted to protect the forest and avoid deforestation and the people who wanted to eat and At one point in that meeting I stood up and I says, you know the problem is The problem is there were no termites that we don't need wood We need agriculture and that was just everybody when you know sort of boo or yay total trade-off Between between food production and deforestation What do we see here from Dan Nebstad's work in Mato Grosso and his Brazilian colleagues is there's a synergy It's a synergy Agricultural production beef production soybean production is increasing the yields are increasing and deforestation is going down That's a synergy as opposed to the trade-off we had before and that's that's just that's just a very happy thing to see Now we have a very good example a real paradigm shift of You can have the synergies between Reducing tropical deforestation and increasing agricultural production in the same place. That's amazing It's it's it's essential what we're talking about is essential because this will guarantee environmental sustainability and Increasing the increasing the production of of food that we need To feed a world of nine billion people by 2050. This is one of the ways for how this will happen So it's it's essential to humankind