 Good morning, Nani. If you're joining us, welcome to the Lydia Pepper Show in this year's town, in this year's city. And today, I have the complete honor, Yanni, who hosts now Michelle Asheer. But right now, we're about to get into an interview. Now, you know how to find us, right? I've read from Facebook, WhiteFifth channel, on Twitter, WhiteFifth underscore channel, on the Graham hashtag of the day is WCW because we'd be appreciating our shortage, like that. Nisama, me, Netroval, or at Kalamigal, on everything. But Chamuhimudel is this gorgeous human, and about to... Nisimudel, Nani, Nani, thank me later, okay? It's a very good day to watch you in the morning. Very, very good day. Get motivated, but get emotional. You're about to get a lot of things. Hashtag is WCW. You can go and sign this as well in the morning. Hi, baby girl. Hi. How are you? Good. It's a good cafe. I'm so glad to see you. It's my first time. It's my first time. I'm so glad to see you. Guys! Oh my God. She looks like an angel. No, no, no. Imagine. It's a good cafe. Thank you. I'm so glad to see you. I haven't gotten to pay a pressure. It's the same. Anyway, please introduce yourself to the people. So, please introduce yourself on camera. I'm Jochen A-Cheng. I love being known as Dani. So, I am a woman living with HIV for the past two years here. And I'm excited to come along in this ride with you guys. Tell me what that means. long time. A long long time ago I was stressed out because of COVID-19. There was like a baby, a baby boy who took me to South Africa and that was the first ever time I was told to talk to him. How are you getting strength to say these things? Yeah, because there's still a lot of stigma going around. Yeah, stigma, stigma and power, but it all depends on the foundation that you've built for yourself. So me, I would say the foundation that really guides me to keep pushing. God is always on my side, no matter what, and my support system is solid. So whatever other people's opinions have of me, about what I am carrying, that, to be honest, is the problem that I have. Tell me where this all began, what happened in the Okajuwa, was it by accident, like help me, walk me through this? So I remember two years ago, I was in uni at that time, I was in Kisei University. So this particular day I woke up, I was feeling some pain in my private area, and during that period, like three months prior, I was recurrent UTI, UTI, UTI. So I was like, what might be the cause of this? So I went to the doctor who see Yashule, and is it okay if we test whether you are, no, is it okay if we can test everything? I was like, yeah, cool, because I didn't think much about it, I was just like, hey, I am tired of nothing this, I am an infection. So I was like, okay, okay, okay, okay, it has not hit me, because before you are giving me a result, there is that pre-canceling. So when the doctor told me, you know whether you are HIV positive or not, life will still go on. So after that I was like, okay, exactly. So I was like, okay, just tell me, because the doctor told me not to test, because the camera was in and I was ready. So I was told I am HIV positive. Yeah, it was a dark period, but I would say my mom's memory the way my dad loves me is what kept me through your period, yeah. So that is how I got to find out. So how did it go from A by the way, to now you have a whole institution even around it? So And apparently the nice thing about container is that it has the highest rate of people infected with HIV, so I don't want to live in hiding, because I feel I just have to create a healthy relationship with my advices, because first there are so many women, I don't want to suffer in silence. Now I want other girls by just looking at me the way I live my life. I'm still going after everything I ever dreamed of, I'm still having fun, I'm still enjoying my life. Through that, that's the main reason why I found beauty in my shame. It's so personal to me. I just want other girls to find support within themselves. There is so much power in speaking up. Where is the shame, because all I see is beauty, but where is your shame? Is it that you have it, or that people might find out you have it? Where is the shame? But why shame? Shame because the society attaches so much shame to towards people living with HIV. There is beauty in that shame because I found out a lot of things about myself through just finding out about my HIV status, because that was the period that I felt maybe the most lonely, but not really lonely, because God was there by my side. You have an inspiration and a story of God, but continue. I love God. Say more self. So it's God born, as soon as there is so much grace, and in a portray, even though what you say is what you expect, maybe I drop my shame, because I am told that it's God. How do you deal with something so intimate? How do you start confessing things? And how do I get to the fact that if you want to go further than this, So your turn, I found out about HIV status. Look at me going towards the men, but the beautiful thing is that I seek to go towards all men, see towards two ushens in Mojah. It's okay, two ushens in Mojah, but since I was in Lezah, I have seen how bitterness and anger say I live miserable. I didn't want that for myself. So I went to Lezah. I first want me to let go through the relationship with my daughter. She was healthy. There was one thing about me, and I was in love. I love, love, love, love. But so I went to Lezah. I took like break for like almost 14 months, I was 15 months. I was in love with Shindwa too. And she was celebrate, because it was not intentional. I was in love with Lezah. It's okay, it's okay. Come on, I'm in love with her. I was in love with Lezah. She said I was comfortable with my HIV status, because I feel the first thing, if you like me, the first thing you need to know is that I'm HIV positive. And one thing about God, at a later time, she said she was in love with me. She was in love with me. She was in love with me. I felt safe with her. So, yeah. I guess she was in love with me. When he panked me. I know. She was in love with you. She was in love with you. I am a baby girl. I am a baby girl. You can find me on Facebook, on Twitter, on Twitter, on Instagram. Hashtag is WCW. I was in love with her. She was in love with me. But it is what it is. It is what it is. What has been your best or your favorite memory from all this nonsense? I was in love with God. I was in love with him. I was in love with him. He was almost a killer. He was in the different sectors of my life. Love. He was in love with me. He was in love with me. He was in love with me. He was in love with me. He was in love with me. I was so reflective. When I thought about this whole thing, a beauty machine, I drew a drawing board. I was like, I know now. When I come out, it will pick up immediately. I will go for visions. But I had to wait for two beautiful years. You are too beautiful. Look at the beautiful in that. Through your two beautiful years, I developed so much. I developed so much. I developed so much. I developed so much. I don't think the opportunity is coming at the right time. I have the strength to be bold. I am not easy. I want to say I didn't look like you. I know. Thank you. You are so beautiful. You are a baby girl. What would you like to tell someone who has just met you? Either who is very confused. Either who is very confused. Either who is very confused. I don't know what you mean. I don't know what you are judging or what you are hearing. I don't know what you are hearing. I don't know what you are hearing. And how to treat someone. So when my friend just came and told me, By the way, That is not right. How do I be the best friend that I can possibly be? How do I be there for this person? I feel it is like that. You know, As much as you want to reduce the stigma to reduce the stigma that is attached to it but you have to keep in mind the people who love us as in Bado one at a time to warm up to it so be patient with them see a team say maybe you're useless and start don't take it personal because i only one thing i've learned throughout this whole journey don't take anything personal kill them talk on a struggle so as a friend just could you at least say and and that is what and God has my back always i'm his favorite baby is a bit too salty so now i'm saying one day everything will be okay things will be okay just take one day at a time be patient with yourself but your advice on it but yeah i think just go across all lines and all borders just be patient with yourself just take a day at a time just be how can we find you on social media how can we build or help out in your organization to be patient with any part how can you support you can just support by being an ally and supporting what we do with the people around you and hiv aids and just just a little bit knowledgeable about hiv aids even though that's support for now i like the name beauty in my shame but honestly i don't see any shame i just see beauty but i like the name but all i see is beauty yeah anyway i told you we're going to go through some emotions while talking to this baby girl i told you but see i say i got to pour so we support beauty in my shame we support her she's just amazing inside and out clearly look at me so i also have to sell love codes yeah but we're not done for this conversation it is still white in the morning up until 10 in the hem so send the mahalinani so yeah we'll be right back