 All right everyone good evening and welcome to the June 27th meeting of the town of Arlington redevelopment board So this evening we have in front of us one environmental design review special permit hearing an update on the director of planning and community development search and As always we will end our meeting with an open forum So I will begin by taking attendance for the record Steve of law here. I'm Rachel Zumbary Jean Benson and Kim Lowe Melissa Tentacolus who is our fifth member of the board is running a bit late So we are going to actually take agenda item number two the update on the director of planning and community development search first And then we'll move into the hearing Able to join us before the hearing She'll be able to to meet and review and vote potentially on the Outcome of our hearing this evening. If not, we will deliberate as the four of us and So let's go ahead with agenda item number two, which is the update on the director of planning and community development search And we have with us Who is the assistant director of planning for the Department of planning and community development? So just an update on the search, the decision was posted in mid-May and we've received a number of applicants I talked with HR this morning and it sounds like there will be preliminary interviews with five selected applicants on Thursday of this week Selection committee or the interviewing committee includes making member, also includes Jim Feeney who's the deputy director Deputy Tom Mander and then Aaron Lowe So after that first round of interviews, they will be able to determine if they want to continue with the second round of interviews with any of the candidates And at that point a little more about the timeline If the committee is not satisfied with any of the candidates, that will continue to post the positions So what's all right to know who the candidates are? We go on Thursday, so I can certainly ask Carolyn when that will be made public. So I'm more than happy to follow up on that And Jean you had asked a question in our previous meeting about the timing with this and obviously the selection of the town manager and For those people who are joining us who who don't know the select board And the town have selected sandy pool or to move into the town manager position. So We have a town manager now who can be a part of the process, which is excellent But I will follow up with Carolyn regarding When the candidates will be made public Sure. Um, so we also Allie Carter gave her notice on Monday last week. So we are using her and I have a development hold on me So we will be We will be posting that position I'm very sorry to hear that I know Whatever we can do to support you in the department, please But I know it's Can I ask um, what her Okay For the city, okay Through And how much longer will she be with us here in July 8th, okay, we'll all send her a note Uh sandy pooler was the deputy town manager I that I'm not sure Yeah All right Any other questions for kelly on the Search for the Okay, and that will conclude agenda item number two Um, I did have a note from Uh before I moved to back to agenda item number one from karen keller her with who's the chair of the Arlington affordable housing trust fund with a reminder For those people who have not taken the affordable housing survey To please do so the survey will close on thursday june 30th And it will be one of the tools that the um arlington affordable housing trust fund Pretty will use to inform their initial action plan Anything else kelly that you have on the item? No, that's it. The survey will be up through mentions of doing an atmi review on Wednesday Um, but the survey will help to perform the priorities of the trust and then after the survey closes We will be moving on to focus groups in the same Great and for the folks who are watching this where can they find the survey? Okay, great. Thank you very much All right. Um, so at this point, we'll go ahead and move All right, go ahead, please They will be joining us on Kelly is working to coordinate and to see if they can join us on july 11th for our next hearing date As an agenda item. So hopefully they'll be able to present the plan. We'll be able to provide comments and feedback and Go to whether or not to endorse the plan Anything else? All right, so let's go ahead and move to our public hearing Which is environmental design review for a special permit docket number 3702 for 464 massachusetts avenue We have the applicant with us Fantastic, great So, uh, we will welcome you to provide up to 10 minutes for an introductory presentation After that we will Have a few minutes of questions for you We'll kick it over to kelly first though To provide any commentary that you'd like to on the memo that was prepared by the department of planning and community development And after that we will take Questions from anyone Who's right? So kelly, would you like to kick it off? Please go ahead Yes, that is correct Well, we'll kind of circle back to all of that after we hear your presentation and take questions and comments from From this Great Okay, great Um, so this is an application if I did cuts deli, um, they already have it up a location in west medford a very small storefront or commercial restaurant in west medford But they're looking to open a restaurant and brewery or seasonal fabrication that 464 mass had This use both uses are allowed in the bpio business district. So it's an allowable use for the special permit I do want to note that in the staff memo we indicate That because the site was previously used for a restaurant continuation of a restaurant use does not require additional approval That is not correct. The restaurant use does require additional approval It doesn't change the legal noticing for this hearing. So we're able to continue going forward We just I just didn't want to know thanks to gene That we do need to actually include the decision to allow the restaurant use as part of the decision The acronym is also requesting a reduction of on-site parking to zero spaces There are no spaces provided right now that were no spaces provided for the prior use So this is just a continuation of the lack of parking The board does have the authority to reduce this use to zero Especially given that this there is on-street parking at mass and there is the also common lot that is fairly adjacent to the building The board also is reviewing The two signs under section 6.2 signs So the applicant is proposing to replace the two existing signs with two signs that are slightly smaller in size But because those two signs are both wall signs who do require this to be approved through a special permit as well And then Just want to clarify that the brewery is categorized as artisanal fabrication In the business zoning district and that is in a lot of use from the special permit There is no other at this time There is no other additional facade changes that are proposed as part of the restaurant So the work is entirely in the interior of the restaurant with the exception of summarizes everything that we've seen here Great. Thank you. So I'll turn it over to you if you could introduce yourself and go ahead with your presentation, please All right So we started this company back in 2019 Uh, my partner has been trying to be personally as a as a pop-up food vendor and they don't want to hear from the brewery But here, um, if they've not been touched, they've waited through a mutual friend As he wanted to open a store for reputation And I had a team of them do this whole thing together and do a food and brewery concept Because I was a little bit different than what other people have been doing because most are kind of beer first And we were back at the afterthought when we really wanted to bring those two together Um, so in 2019, we put our whole restaurant plan together and our location and where we're going is Somerville And has a special permit and we've had submit for our building permit and then we've had that happen And so I think I've got to put a hold of it a little bit And uh, so we decided to do that really immediately And decided to do something that was just taken out of me, so we didn't know what they were going to do And uh, so during that time we started to really, uh, name the crowd sourcing campaign and bring some money for that This is a quick little rendering of what we had planned to do there So then in 2021, we found a location and uh, Westmernberg, our own store for the space This is kind of our front row here with the little hundred-foot store for the kitchen and the bag And you know, we always intended on having that bigger space, but uh, it has this year again This is just kind of starting for me and pretty much now, how far it was And you're probably familiar with Tagging and what was there before So we came in and you were just using, in fact, this was kind of a perfect location for us Not only just because of the land, you know, that all our requirements, but in fact it's so close to where we already are You know, that's just really, like, in any case, our current customer base You know, kind of keep our promises moving forward So then I'll kind of take you through what our plans for the space are Tell you mention, uh, could you plan on taking some of the uh, pretty blue trim on the outside We'll take that one But those are pretty much the only modifications On the other side, the only change is the current bar over the side of the space And we're going to put a new bigger bar over on the other side of the space We're setting kind of both of them up The rest of this space will be the normal type of built-in box All of that will be used on the space We're going to add some doors We've seen some single things So we can kind of close things out The previous kind that I already built out It's all finished in the base that they have there It's Washington that they're there A lot of floor, offices We'll take you over to the third On this big blue space for the brewery It's a small five-barrel group of kind of status It's not designed for making, you know, swimming in the water You can ship it out, you know, can it everywhere This is pretty much just for serving The brewer house and our furniture And some chilleries and soaring in it And looking at you walking through the brewery You'll see the extent of our locations Where we'll be doing the slainest out of any Fix anything that's up to go They move a lot of textures and put it on those back So that's kind of where we're looking for this location We're really excited about this opportunity Because it's kind of Great, thank you so much for the presentation I appreciate it and I really appreciate such a creative use Of the space We'll play Tony Darrelington So what I'd love to do is ask my colleagues on the board If they have any questions Of you any clarifications And then what we'll do is We'll see if any of the folks who have joined us this evening Have any commentary And then we'll come back and we'll have a discussion As to, you know, again Any questions that we might have about Being able to approve the publication Okay, so Ken, why don't we start with you All right, then I'm very supportive of this project It includes a great project that could fit The works of what we want to do in that area And it could fit I do have a couple of small questions When you say you're not doing anything On the outside of the elevation of the building Except for modifications to the sides I'm going to ask you Are you changing any of the egress Or ingress doors Or the front door Or the vestibular Are you changing any of those doors Or are they staves, accent, configuration So what's our standard saying The only modification would be To have a great idea of the hardware problem The one, the other entry Let's say on the top of the page Are you changing anything there? That's interesting Yes We're not Because I mean, I've been there a couple of times When I was just in a steakhouse I go there all the time I think I will go there Because it's the Brute House too That door is further set in Than the way you show when you're drawing I was wondering if you showed that door Flush and brought out more So that was your ADA access Into this building Yeah, I'll check that And then I'll check what the waitresses are I do a lot of the accessibility I work Well, I'm asking you Is because The lower entry along the page Is not hand cut accessible Because they're too tight It doesn't work Because it's recessed Currently Yeah But if you Remodify that door At the top there If you pause the secondary Regress To be able to flush And you see a buzzer there That would suffice To be able to hand cut accessible Entrance and exit The only thing I don't recall Is how flush the floor is To decide what Is that pretty much on level Or do we have to create some sort of wrapping there I'm not trying to create unconfirming That's why I'm asking it or why I'm asking it Yep, yep, yep But they are both Another both hand side But I haven't double checked What the slopes are I think there's a small change there But I may have to stop But the intent is to Bring it up to Go to the lines So Do you feel that If we've been there request That secondary door Which you have in progress Is made to be hand cut accessible Is that something you would do? I would do As long as it's not something that Requires a significant modification To the building I don't think so Looking at it By memorizing it or anything else But I'm just asking for a commitment For you to do that And we'll make that as a requirement And then If you feel like that is An undue burden That should come back And make that request of us And we'll try to work something else But for now I just want to make sure that it's accessible And then My only last request If it's not being too Undue burden right now Is you're asking us to reduce parking to zero I agree, that's fine Will you be able to help us By placing A bicycle rack Outside somewhere? I know that sidewalk is tight But I'll let Steve and some of the other boy members More expert than Bicycling that I But If we can have a bicycle rack Somewhere near this facility As a gesture from you Saying hey I think that would go a long way I'd be more than happy to put a bike rack It's just getting right I think it's just Making sure we're going to have compliance With sidewalk clearances That's what I'm trying to say right now I'm not trying to say where I'm just trying to say Will you be able to help us out With a bike rack And you would help us Encourage bicycling At the center We don't want to have all of this With a bike here So we're going to replace the plan I don't want to root for myself That I would desire to do But it's just kind of a different thing That's the only two things And I hope I will support this And lose a great fit there, okay? Great, thank you Gene, any questions? Yes, thanks I have never been It was never in time I don't know what to say We keep experience that my colleague does But we did get an email From He says that he thinks that The doors are not And it seems to me That It sort of seems to me I don't care which door But that I would like to have one of the doors brought up To that color A lot of characters As long as When you get into the building It's fine So I hope you can do that You might have to work for Landlord I don't know That's going to be a part of this It's very different I like the idea Of a bicycle walk outside Although you don't have to Work with the town Since it's a town site And whether there's an appropriate place To put it And we have standards For bicycle bikes That are allowed to be used in town So you can Call you or you can go on the website And find the guidance On bicycle bikes We You would be required To have internal bicycle stores That are used For employees In the building So So I think I don't know if it's possible For you to include How many things How do you have a sense of You don't have that connection I think there needs to be I think probably one That I haven't done the calculation Internal bike store For staff That should probably be put in the basement And Since there doesn't seem to be any place In the building To have the bicycle requirements For visitors Having it on the sidewalk Is the appropriate alternative If the town is okay So I'm okay with that Otherwise there would be A bicycle requirement If I don't think it can be On the side Yeah we can put a bicycle And I think we're happy to have The staff review it And the comfort At least I am comfortable With it Truck access Is around the back How large are the trucks That are going to be coming in There are lots of trucks The normal ones aren't I think they're like They're going That's just really good We're only going to be getting So they'll be able to Come to The auto body Is in the back They're currently In the back to access So we've been assured That they'll have some access to And the trucks will be able to turn around When they get down there So they won't go back out And if they don't back in There's no way To unload your truck And bring stuff around So they're going to have to back in So they're definitely going to have to Clear all the cars out Yeah anything that doesn't Shut my head That's what I mean Pretty regularly A lot of cars are used The only other thing I'd say about the signs Is as Kelly mentioned Under Our bylaw You're only allowed to have one Sign on the building And while Tango had two That was done before the bylaw Okay So I think what you can do To still meet the sign bylaw Is to take that little emblem I think And move it over to the name And probably stay within The size of them But I'm not ours Because I didn't take that I'm trying to figure this out But I'm not going to agree With the size Yeah Gene's trying to figure I'm going to make that one sign So we can approve it I love the interpretation So if there's a way to Combine them so it's been signed But I think it is because they're not that big That would be approvable I can't see approving Because we can't keep approving Things that are under a different Sort of bylaw So I think I'd approve it If there's a way to turn it into One sign You're agreeable I hope And that's all I have I just want to say I think it's great that you be coming To town I think it's a nice Place to have you Establish them Great, thank you Gene Steve, welcome Gene For any questions or comments How are you planning to The brewery process How are you planning to change the work? We're going to have a case of Cold water coming in from the side Because it's a lot more Is that to be collected in another So you're in this case We're cooling it off again We're going to use that to Start running for the next batch Or we're cleaning it up On one of the Basement I think it might be the K104 We should go through the Diary I was just curious There are three perfect And actually there's something Most right Oh the bright thing is Here is carbonated Yeah so that's like A high pressure vessel That's your Carbonated How many Employees Do you have So we're We've kind of been going back and forth I think we're looking at Probably 15 to Bax Somewhere probably Since My colleague put me on the spot For the bicycle Usually when I park on that block I have a lot to do Yeah When I While others were asking the questions I just took a look at What the bicycle parking was like For long So we have two categories Long-term and short-term Long-term and generally Inside for employees Short-term would be more For candidates or guests I agree with it It's a tight spot I took a walk down the alley behind I don't know what the ramp is like But it looks like It looks like it could be a little challenging To get a bike down that gangway And get it down on the The interior So I think the sidewalk Might be your only option Um So the Bicycle parking is based on Your story area So the question Do you know if the Why all makes a distinction To the basics of the seller Do you have to know which of yours Which of that yours is Okay So there's It affects this Because The rules for top-of-the-line go-store Don't think Sellers Or take that back a few sellers In residential uses But not business So it's based on If it is In fact a seller Meaning that more than half of it Is below ground Basically Doesn't really come to the DFA top-of-the-line Which in turn But if you would be Will able to If it's easy to get You know the Standard is 0.2 Long-term space For thousand square feet So it would be Over the first four columns With less than half a space And you might be able to get one space But if you could put it in That would be Yeah Perfect The only other thing I would sort of wonder When reviewing this Is I would suggest That you compost What I would For your application To compost your order Yeah All of the waste products It's taken away By saving our stuff And And Nothing further, Madam Chair Great, thank you very much And I think my colleagues have already asked you All of the questions that I had The only thing I wanted to confirm Was whether or not I believe that this applicant would need to Have the exterior painting And the signage approved by the Historic Commission Following any approval here Great That's the only other Question or comment that I wanted to make So I think At this time what I'd like to do is open it up For public comment And See if there's any public comments And then we'll circle back up And talk about next steps Great So either one of you would like to speak this evening Alright Seeing none we will close public comment I'll just Melissa Melissa Tentaclos has joined us Unfortunately you won't be able to Lay in on this since we started Before that Questions under public comment You can have questions under public comment So a re-open public comment I'm going to invite Melissa to join us For public comment So I apologize for being late I had another community So you may have already talked a little bit about this You know, kind of with the Economic development plan I'm curious how your thought process On this site in particular And maybe what was some of the factors In this location Um, yeah So we We have a lot of people I thought this was a little more For me than That was the first concern The first concern for me Was that we wanted to stay Close to The location Obviously it was about 50% of our Distance from Washington So the same was the place The location Which is And the Exactly What are the typical Outlook of operation You're probably Going to be doing The Those are within The restrictions And then I guess this is not really Your review, but I have some Curious about The process for the Parklets I don't know if this would be appropriate With a business supply or how that works To the select board So there's a permit process for applying For the parklet Which would be allowable But it's a group like this Yeah Something we'll definitely make We have a lot of that Yeah Yeah I mean in terms of In general parking And the requirements I see more activation On the street to better actually I think that's The shared parking that I support Kind of do this I think that's great Great All right And we will close public comment And Move back to Any discussion Within the board So what I'll do is I'll run through The list that I was keeping Of conditions that I heard Mentioned for Approving this application And talk about those See if there are any others Or if there are any Visions that we want The applicant to come back Either to the board Or work together with staff To address So the first item I have Is to Ensure that the Exterior painting and signage Are reviewed and approved by The historic commission Stores on Mass Ave Is Made ADA accessible And this is something that You know, you mentioned that you Have experience and can work Within and you'll need to work with The building inspector as well For approval. If there are Storefront modifications that are needed Unfortunately what we'll have to do Is reopen this permit Because that would be subject to Review by the board And re-approve that So I think what You'll need to do is Maybe that, for example, the One that is the vestibule You can perhaps modify that On the interior So that it's an interior modification But again, you'll need to take a look at that And see what's necessary There There was the request to Sorry? Can we Sort of approve To have it reviewed with staff We could Discuss that If the door needs to move forward So that it would give it accessibility But you're still trying to make it accessible I just want to come back And slow you down in a few months Again, we'll discuss that as the board And if we feel comfortable with that direction To have them review that To have that reviewed and approved by staff We can certainly add that in I'll just finish running through the list And then we can, no, no, that's a great question And we'll come back to that one for sure I'll just make a note to review this So There was the request to Work with the town To locate an exterior bike rack On the sidewalk Or in some location Adjacent to the Property To add A minimum of one internal Rack storage rack for staff in the basement And to condense The signage into one sign That's in the location Do you have the storefront Erendering up? So that would be for the location Over the main entrance Yes, so to move the Circular emblem over To that area If that's a feature that you would want to keep Great Are there any other Conditions That I missed And we're going to waive all the parking Vehicle parking And to, correct, waive the Requirement for vehicle parking Steve, did you have anything else I missed? No, I think you got a Good night Just bring up the signage thing Yes I appreciate what Jean said about Moving that So it becomes one I understand why you put it over If we were just to reduce The size of the deep cut Right now you have it at one foot six Yeah And let's move them a little closer We still have two different planes But we still count that as one side Because This is It's two signs, it's separated by I'm going to agree with Jean on that one I think it's two signs What we'll do You could actually work together again That won't lead you to come in front of the board You can work with the department of planning And community development as long as it's within The allowable signage size And it's one sign You can absolutely work on redesigning that To a Design that works for you And that can be approved together So you mean one for alternative You would have up to two signs So if there were an alternative Or alternative sign type That you wanted to do And dimensional requirements Of that sign type And you could explore that Right, it's the two wall signs That are And just to confirm These are Lit through the external Lighting that's currently there I think it's All light There's light that already exists Let's see, any other Any other Questions? No, let's See if we somehow We can reach your agreement here So that we don't have to have to come back here again Let's work on a motion then A motion to approve this Would follow the comments That you have just mentioned Would you say all of them again? Yeah, why don't I just repeat them again So that Kelly has some And make sure that we're all in alignment So There's a motion to Approve Docket 3702 464 Massachusetts Avenue With the following special conditions That the exterior painting And signage Is subject to review and approval By the historic commission That a minimum of one of the two Doors Main entrance doors On Massachusetts Avenue Are ADA compliant Any minor storefront Modifications can be Reviewed and approved together with the Staff from the Department of Planning And Community Development That the applicant Include a bike rack For the public Use on the exterior At the sidewalk Working together with the town For an appropriate location That the applicant install A minimum of one internal bike Storage rack for staff use In the basement That the applicant Condense the signage into one Wall sign And the final signage Is to be reviewed and approved With the staff of the Department of Planning And Community Development Yes. That meets the requirements The size and location requirements Of the bylaw Thank you, Jean. And the Board will Grant the requested relief For reducing the vehicle Parking down to zero At this location. So emotional. I'd like to make one small revision. One interior bike parking I would say one Interior long-term Bicycle parking space. Okay. Long-term. So we motion. I'll second. Sorry, I just need to write that down. Like Parking Space. Okay, I'm sorry, there was a second. Great. So we'll take a vote for approval. Starting with Steve. Hi. Jean. Yes. Kim. Yes. Congratulations. Open your business in Arlington. Great. Thank you so much. So with that, we'll close the public hearing For docket number 3702. And at this time We will Open For public forum. So any of you joining us this evening Welcome to Any comments that you'd like? All right. Yes. Tell him what he thinks he's going to do. Yes. I would follow up with you tomorrow With this type of list of Special conditions and then follow up On that historical commission Like getting out of the agenda for that And then talking about the follow up With the separate bike parking guidelines Just so that you know the types of bike backs But then we'll work on the decision Tomorrow the decision will be circulating Among the board for signatures Once we have the full set of signatures We'll follow that with a clerk At which point the 20-day appeal period will begin And after that 20 days If the decision is not appealed Then our office manager will contact you And arrange a dinner for you You can come and pick up the special appointment Great. Thank you. So we'll close Open forum And I'll see if there's any new business From the board Any questions? Okay. So Can we plan on our summer retreat yet? We have not Planned a time for the summer retreat I think we had initially said that we were Hoping to Wait until The new planning director Was Named I think we had tentatively Started to think about September For that date But I'm happy to send a notary And start collecting some Availability For a weekend date And we can plan that And maybe what we can do is add that to our agenda For the July 11th meeting And have a discussion there On a Selection of a date if that works Unless you have other thoughts Okay. I forgot all about What we talked about earlier. It's okay. Fantastic. So at this time Let's see if there's a motion to adjourn tonight So motion. I'll take a vote Starting with Ken. Yes. Jean. Yes. Melissa. Yes. See? Yes. And then they asked as well. Good night everyone and thank you for joining us.