 I'm excited. I'm excited about this project and about seeing you here. Unfortunately, not in person this time, but we still brought a great story to share. With my co-presenter, Ellen Haas, from the German Public Broadcast at ZDF, we're gonna tell you a little bit about sharing to the comments. Because we as a movement, we definitely have an interest to bring great media and great content to everyone. Content providers do share that interest, but they also have a different perspective, kind of, and they also have interests that they're bringing forward. And Ellen will tell you a little bit about our common project with ZDF, was a lot of content that has been provided to the comments. And we may be then afterwards, together in the Etherpad, working on bringing that thing internationally. I have been in touch with a lot of you asking for suggestions, like which broadcasters should we get to or whom should we approach to get content into the comments? Which kind of content do you need as a creator as a Wikimedian and for your projects? So there, please make sure to go into the Etherpad right away and to ask your questions there. Ellen will then answer your questions later together with me here in the Etherpad or I will try to help here with the translation. I am thanks to all the translators that are who are working in the background to bring our sessions to the different language communities. And yeah, now let's dive straight into the content and I will start the about eight minutes presentation of Ellen that she prerecorded and afterwards we will be having a little Q&A session with you and finding new content sources together. I'm excited and I hope that all of this will work out. I'm making sure to share the audio here and here we go. Welcome everybody. I'm happy to use the following minutes to guide you through some slides presenting our contribution to the Creative Commons idea. My name is Ellen Haas. I'm an editor at ZDF or Zweiters Deutsches Fernsehen as it called. And I'm the responsible project lead of the Creative Commons Initiative in our company. For those who do not know the ZDF, the Zweiters Deutsches Fernsehen is one of the two public TV broadcasters in Germany with a political and social mandate to provide information, education and entertainment. Let me start with a short look back. ZDF started pilot testing of the first seven video clips on topic climate change already in 2019. All these clips under license CC by 4.0. These films received significant positive feedback from several media and science platforms such as Wikipedia. All these clips have been used in a different articles at once. By publishing these explainer videos, we are responding to the public's desire to release public value. An important step at the right time because the corona pandemic and the increasing digitization of schools are increasing the demands for rights-free moving image material more and more. So we decided to expand our Criald Creative Commons project. We want to achieve with our concept. The three basic drivers are, first, as public institution, we want to contribute to our educational mandate. ZDF has a broad store of knowledge that should be made available to public following the idea of an open educational resource. Second, the distribution via digital channels, for example, Wikipedia or ZDF Media Library helps us to reach a broader target audience and in particular, it helps to become more relevant for the younger target group. And lastly, the CC PRORECT Promoters collaboration within our institution, which utilizes the full knowledge potential of the organization. What characterizes our typical CC CLIP? We have defined some basic features that have to be fulfilled content-wise. The CLIP has to explain a scientific issue or question. Each CLIP must provide a 100% reputable indication of source. CLIPs usually release high-value graphics or historical re-enactments. They should not be less than circa 30 seconds, but also not longer than approximately five minutes. Last but not least, the CC by 4.0 license is of course a must. Following the attribution 4.0 international, all CLIPs are under free license. That means they can be shared, edited and exploited commercially. IE, we have chosen a solution with less limitations and the highest value for our users. At the same time, we have to protect the authors. That's why references must have. Key statements must not be distorted. That's very important in the context of historical and scientific contents. On the next page, you can see what we are contributing to the initiative. Main effort is to research for existing material that can be used to explain specific scientific questions. This approach is very sustainable as we avoid creation of new films. On the other hand side, it means that we cannot support all requested topics with existing material. Second effort driver is the clearance of rights to ensure the material can be published with CC license. After a clarification of these rights, we create new CLIPs out of the research material, including adapted texts and specifically composed music. More concretely, our currently roughly 160 cluster CLIPs can be found under TerraX-CC.ZDF.DE. Cluster samples are history, physics, human body, politics, climate, or geography, for example. And we do our best, let the number of these CLIPs growing from week to week. All CLIPs are uploaded and offered on Wikipedia. There's a great deal of interest in our CLIPs and both almost all films are used in different articles on the platform. What makes us really proud is that we have had already more than 16 million calls on Wikipedia since we have started our project. That means roughly 1.5 million calls per month. Our material is used on several education servers and platforms. We are supported by our internal children's program for low and pure. And we have started first training courses for schools and teachers in Germany with very positive feedback. As we are highly convinced of the creative comments idea, we want to further develop our offering in the future. So let me give you a short overview what we are planning to do next. First, we want to include CC rights in each purchase contract of external material in the future. This will make clearance of rights much easier for us. We want to expand our internal network and to increase offerings significantly by collaborating with additional 30 F departments. We want to play an active part in the CC community by contributing in different ways. We will increase focus in-house productions to cover more and more of highly relevant topics that are requested. And last but not least, we want to be an active promoter of the CC concept and idea in the media world. I hope I could provide you with first impression of our concept and status quo. So I hope that you got an impression about what we are trying to achieve with the project now. And I'd be very happy to welcome you into our etherpad where you can add your name. So we see that you're here and who we are talking to, Ellen and me, and are very happy to answer your question. Well, before that, I'd like to add something from the Wikimedia perspective on that. So in this project, you can really see how the collaboration between a content provider, a highly trusted content provider like 30 F and the Wikipedia community in this case, really did something fruitful because at the start of the project, we didn't really have the data to monitor how these videos are being received and how big the audience is. That was a problem for the content provider because it said F needs numbers to justify the efforts. So we had to build something there. And the Wikimedia Foundation helped us. And together with the developing team from Wikimedia in Deutschland, we built this media views in category thingy that I'm gonna show you in a minute. And we, and something else. I'm now seeing that there is a question that I'm seeing here in the chat, but not in the etherpad. Maybe I am in the wrong etherpad. Please, could you write me the right link again in the chat here so that we were on the same page here? Thank you. And the first question was, are the materials from 30 F only in German, would it be possible for the community to work on translations for other languages? And I think Ellen is already typing the answer to that. But I can share you something about that indeed. Ellen says, yes, they are only available in German, but I mean the license, it allows to put it to good use. So I'm sharing a presentation with you here now. I hope that you can see it on full screen now. I'm not sure, presentation mode, wait for it. And you see here, if you look at the category in Wikimedia Commons, videos by Terrex, so Terrex, we just explained to you, there are already a lot of adaptations by different language communities. So the license allows to work with that material. And I mean, that's why we started the whole thing. So the videos for themselves are sometimes being put into different Wikipedia articles, even in the German version, it's because the footage is so good. But if there's someone who's really engaged and who can adapt those videos, they are doing that. So they are doing read-ups or they're adding subtitle files and putting them into different language versions of the Wikipedia. So this is already happening, but this cannot be provided by the ZDF itself, but this is an act of collaboration with the community, even without the feedback to the ZDF and to us at Wikimedia.org. And we're just seeing this grow and every time there's a new language version of the videos, we're pretty excited and eager to see how this grows. And there's also something else going on by the community, as you can see, not only on Wikimedia Commons, but teachers, for example, also take this content and put it into other learning communities, like most of the videos are also uploaded by the ZDF on YouTube, but some are not, or not yet. And so the community members putting them on YouTube as well to share with their class and with their pupils, for example, and also on different educational servers, the building servers, as Ellen mentioned, that we could find the material on all of these different, on all of these different sites. So this is something exciting for us because we are not in control of that. That's all the community doing their work. And that's a very beautiful thing. Another thing that the community did, and which we didn't anticipate, it is a beautiful thing working with Wikimedia Deutschland, it was one of Wikimedia chapter, that you learn new things on the go and that you didn't really foresee. For example, there's this one beautiful thing I am trying to share my screen now and not a Chromium tab because I want to switch between different things here. I hope that this will work. You have one Wikimedia volunteer has started a PET scan. So every time a new upload is done by Terra X, or something is uploaded into the category of videos by Terra X, he's being pinged here and he can see that right away. And every time I'm checking PET scan, another community member has already put the video into the German language version of Wikimedia on the correct page because it is not a must that every video of Terra X needs to be in an article. I mean, it's good because the content that is provided is exactly what Wikimedia needs because making videos is quite expensive and that cannot be provided by community members all the time. And yeah, so this PET scan is going on and there you can, I will put this into the etherpad in a minute so that you can have a look for yourself. But also there's another thing that we use for reporting for seeing how many views of the video can be seen here and this is the media views per category. So there's the data that we need for reporting and we can see here which videos are viewed the most as for the last 30 days I've now put here into the filter and you can see that since July 17th there has been nearly 1.5 million views of the videos and this is a number that is kind of constant right now and as new videos come into the comments the number is slightly rising and especially the historical footage here or the CGI and the animations, they are really, really requested because you can see that those are used in different Wikimedia language versions here. So even though the video itself is in German, it is being used in other language communities as well because it is so, so high quality. So, and this I will, as I told you I will share these things with you in a minute and I will now look out for some more questions and switch over to the etherpad so I can see what you're asking and what you're typing and I now see that there's already a lot of notes and I ideally thank you for that because of course this whole session wouldn't make sense just speaking into the volume. I, what from a Wikimedia perspective of course it would be interesting to reach out to other international broadcasters because here with ZDF we are having, we have a great benchmark and I think this is something that other people can be jealous about that now here's someone presenting great educational content and he's been viewed all, he's been shown and viewed all over the internet and this is something that others could do too to also show the good content that they're creating. I mean, every creator wants and needs that and if you want you can always reach out to me and reach out to us to see who else could be interesting and if you have concrete people to talk to I'd be happy to do that for you and also there's not, I should not forget to mention that there's of course, this is not a project that is like a cooperation between just Wikimedia and Deutschland and ZDF but there's also of course a community group they're called themselves. Wiki loves broadcast and they're in collaboration with different, with different public broadcasters in Germany and actively asking for content. So they are helping the ZDF orientate in the world of Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia how is the video adapted? What can we do better maybe? And they're giving feedback and helping them. So there's and we actually have been visiting at the station, at the broadcasting station and have talked to many members of the team of ZDF and different departments to see where we can work together and what kind of content that is already there could be interesting for the Wikipedia. The link will be put into the query right away. There's a question whether there's an open collaboration between the European broadcasters and that of course is a very interesting question because there are already some, wait a minute, I will speaking and putting it here in the same time is kind of hard and the PET scan here you go. There's already some actual radio stations that are collaborative like Dreisatz or Arte that are collaboration between the German and the French public broadcasters or the German and the Swiss and the Austrian public broadcasters. So these international projects are already going on and yeah, with those, they are also interesting and sharing creative comments videos but as you can imagine with three different states involved and three different broadcasters, this is kind of hard to achieve and there are some funding projects from the European Union to like build a public media sphere and they are actually engaging in more collaboration between the broadcasting stations and there are some bilateral collaborations going on. For example, between the BBC and I think the TETF as well. So there's collaboration, but not in the CC sector as of now. There and Ellen just, I think the answers of Ellen are also then being put back to the etherpads. So I'm not gonna read out all of the answers here. Yeah, always feel free to add suggestions to us. So either whether it's content that you're searching for or other, so for Ellen and which ideas and feedback you have for the material and for the process and feedback for me to say, well, who should we reach out to next to bring this idea forward and to showcase what the TETF has done and to showcase this all over the world and to inspire others to contribute to the comments because this is a great gift for the Wikimedia project that is and the gift is being put to good use here. I opened up the wrong etherpad here and I'm happy that there's so many people here in the etherpad because I know when I'm attending online conferences I just like put in all audio and just listen to it while maybe doing something else, browsing, whatever. But for this workshop we really need you to tell us and to help us with the whole concept here because without your questions this will be not a so, so good question. Yeah, I will link to materials shared. Here we go. And of course here. So thank you all for listening. We will be happy to get some new questions from you. Now this is a very special question. Here is a question about Wikidata. I'm going to read it out. How do you see the role of Wikidata instructor data and comments in connecting these contents to potential places of use? There's some interesting thing going on because not only does the ZDF upload videos to the comments but also the another public broadcast in Germany, Deutsche Welle and one volunteer that is committed to bring these into good use put these videos into Wikidata right away rather than into the German language community and into the German Wikipedia or German language version. So these videos by Deutsche Welle are now if they're in some other language versions like automatically because it can be found there. And another showcase is the cooperation between Wikimedia Finland and Wiley, the public broadcasters there. They have a great cooperation going on. You should check in with these guys because there's lots of interesting stuff happening. I don't think we have already explored the full potential of Wikidata and connecting the contents. I think there's a lot of work going on because I don't think that the public broadcasters are able to look into each other's archives as of now. They're not speaking the same language and there's surely potential. And also the content that is already provided can be shared further via Wikidata. I don't think the people in the Wikilufs they're awesome people in the Wikiluf broadcast volunteer group but I don't think they're so, so fond of Wikidata. So there's this material that just hasn't been shared with the Wikidata community yet. We thank you there for the suggestion here that all versions of Glamrs do have viewer statistics but as I talked with the people from the Wikimedia Foundation, they told me that, well, those are not sufficient really for the reporting standards of the CTF. And so we had to build new metrics there. There was more like a work around and now we really can see how often the video has been clicked. And I think the transition rate, it's kind of hard to report with the CTF videos as of now because mostly they are being used in different language versions. So we cannot say, well, it's being used in one Wikipedia page and so therefore we can monitor how often the video is being shown. We can do that with other videos and from the Deutsche Welle and we can see that about a fourth of the clicks on the article transfer to clicks on the video later. So we don't have the metrics for telling you how long the video has been viewed or how often by as per one click but we can say that it has been actively opened about one fourth to one third of the times that people are visiting the Wikipedia page about a certain topic. If the video is shown is put there prominently and not like down, down, down on the page. Yes, I see why I see a widely people here in the session and I'm very happy for that because we have been in touch a few years ago when we started the whole project working together with the public, sorry, I'm speaking slowly with the public broadcasters in Germany to also explore what other kinds of collaborations we could have. And especially for programs that work in different languages as the tagging opportunities of Wikidata are really, really, really exciting and there could be a lot going on. And of course, meta data, meta data and the data behind the data is always also a topic that is being brought forward by the stations themselves by the broadcasters because they're in Germany they're different public broadcasters that now collaborate, for example, with their own viewers, with their media tagging. So with their online players and their platforms in which they provide their content. So they are trying to bring those together and to talk to each other there. But as of now, there's no visible movement and velocity going towards Wikidata. They do have their own systems that they're gonna pursue as of now. Let's, Vera is adding some suggestions program-wise here that she says that the portraits of employees of the CTF could be added. And there's, and this could be an interesting thing. So not employees and hosts and public figures of the CTF because those are mostly also in, even if they don't have a Wikipedia article they are in Wikidata. And if there's, if there could be a great way to collaborate there and indeed we are also in touch with the new CEO of the CTF that has been, I think he will start in March of 2022, if I'm not mistaken. And we're also in touch with the press office and with the public relations of the CTF to bring that forward. But as everything was copyright, this is complicated, creative comments tries to bring a solution to that. But there's always contracts and there's always no, we don't have the rights to put these photos out there for that. And this is the content providers at the Redaktion, the editors at HauptRedaktion Geschichtes. So at Allen's department, they are already providing a lot of good content, but this is like one department out of many, many, many insights in CTF. So they are inspiring other people as well, but this is a process that is still going on and where you will take your suggestions and of course forward them to the different departments. So I am looking into the chat here now. Yeah, this is something interesting for different language communities because you sometimes have public figures with strange names. So I'm not a public figure, but the name Bernd is quite hard for non-German speakers. And mostly I'm called Bernard or something like that, which is fine with me. So sharing not only a picture and a name but also like sharing a short video where they're pronouncing their own name can be very interesting, which is not only for people who want to inform themselves about the people, but also if those are ever on a public stage in an international context, then the host for the session can look up the right pronunciation of the name by the person itself. So this could be interesting and that's a great suggestion right there. Thank you very much. We will continue collecting your ideas here and of course forward them all. So this is already getting exciting here for me. We have 25 minutes to go if I'm not mistaken. So a lot of room for ideas and quotes that we can take together, maybe even mistakes because we can learn from them. The discussions with the community, I will share the link. It is mostly German language right now, but there's on the Wiki Loves broadcasts, they are called. And I will share the Tim here. I will share, I have it put here in the, sorry, that was the wrong place. The links to material shared, I will put the link into here. Nice, okay. And there was also a question from, there's also a collaboration going on with that now. So maybe you could share the link to the query for example. So nice one. I like. I have, so the question was, where do we have discussions with the community? And we mostly talk, we have, we do have an instant messenger group, but mostly we're talking on the discussion page of the German language Wikipedia project, Wikipedia, Wiki Loves broadcast and there we have people that we're in touch regularly and or mostly if it's urgent, we also talk a lot in German very fast. But I'm trying to reach out to other people as well. And to other, we have plenty of time. Thank you, I was mistaken here. We are also trying to reach out to the international community and we have had a post on the Wikimedia policy, Wikimedia foundation policy blog and there were a few people being in touch with me on that and on the Wikimedia policy mailing list. We also reached out and yeah, I'm happy to build an international community about inside the community to bring this project forward and to A, promote the great content that the city also has already has provided and bringing them into different language communities and B, bringing new content from international providers and content creators into the comments because there's so much thing, so much things that can be done. Also, the videos themselves are being discussed at the German language village pump, which is called Wikipedia Korea. And there's also discussion going like, do we want videos in the Wikipedia provided by third parties? Because also the core of Wikipedia is to content being editable at all times. And of course, video content cannot be edited as easily as a text can. But we think we can have both because the text will still be there. And if the video is like short and on the point and has information that doesn't age, then it can be, or ages slowly, then it can be a great adaption, addition to the Wikipedia articles. So I think we need both. We, some people like to read, some people like to listen. And if we have video and we have texts, then both is high quality, then we can really bring content forward. There was a question about, Ellen also answered your question. And I think a question to the technical team, those are posted by you into the pads as well, right? So that there can be a direct link. Question eight, you mentioned that you monitor video views. Are you using the media views tool? Yes, we are using the media views tool. The problem is that you can just like monitor 10 videos at once. So it's at the start point of the project, this was an adequate tool, but at some point not so much anymore. That's why we, that's why we use, that's why we built this media views per category thing, which is kind of what Glamorous2 also wants to do. But I think we have, it is a more adequate tool and more easy to use really than the Glamorous tool that we built there or that Amir built for us. And I am so, so thankful. So many, many thanks to Amir and that's because we have used this tool a lot and it makes my work way easier because before I already spent like one hour to put together all the videos, although I already had links and I already had things prepared. And now I just, it's just one click and I find everything. So if I want to do a deep dive into one video, how it has been seen and where are the peaks of the interest of these videos? Of course I did dive into media views, but in general, for general reporting issues, the media views per category tool on Toolforge is very, very good. So we are using, I'm adding this here to the chat right now or to the pad. I hope that this works. We need Toolforge media views per category tool mostly. So there's more questions. So of course about the translation issues, interesting to see also readouts and subtle versions already created. What decision go into the translation process by the CTF? Yeah, so I think it should be clear on that cooperation that we as a community and we as Wikimedia Deutschland, we are eager to adapt material from the CTF, but we cannot ask for specific material that has to be done newly by the CTF because there's some European competition law about that. And that is a whole process and a whole legal framework around there. So if the CTF would invest plenty of resources into translating the content that they already have produced. So if they're heavily investing in that, there would be questions. So mostly what we are doing right now is absolutely fine. And we could even go two or three steps further than that, but we don't want to exhaust the resources of the CTF with this project. We want to bring what's there into the community to build upon that. And the CTF is happy to see the translations being done by the community and even high quality translations. So thank you for that very, very much. But the CTF itself cannot and provide content in different languages if they are not doing that already and maybe for example, in the course of a corporation project. So I think that's too much to ask really because they're bringing knowledge to other communities like the expertise of the Wikipedia and of the Wikimedia movement. And I think this work should be done. There's also some comments about content that could be CC licensed. I will look into that later after the session and we are of course already reaching out to other broadcasters but if you have people who we should specifically talk to like if you say, yeah, I've talked to the BBC, I'm like, yeah, well, it's a big ship and I don't really know where is my entry point for that. So and Ellen just added, of course it's well more easy to translate if you have a text that you can work with and they are also putting those texts and the scripts into the videos as well and like accompanying the videos so that people can work with that and doing the translation from there. Yes, of course we're, if you're editing the videos by the way I'm just seeing the comment by Vera it would be, you always have to make sure to tell what you have edited in or out of the video. So even if you like trim it and I think the video as a content provided by the city if it is branded, there's like a TRX logo on the front at the back and on the side but I think those, these videos already are short enough to just being used as they are. So I don't think they have to be heavy trimming or heavy editing going on to really use these videos, especially in the German languages and it doesn't really make sense but even in the other language versions. The question 10 here was about transcribing the German audio into text. It is already done. It is just not always put into the Wikimedia comments file. So maybe there that we could talk about the process there and we're trying to put this into practice right now. I think the audio transcriptions are just on the ZDF page where they're providing their videos and not always in the Wikimedia comments uploads. So they're there, but just not in the right place all the time. Maybe we can work on that process together but if you're interested in one specific video of course I'm happy to guide you and through the German language ZDF media take. And yeah, maybe some procedural as I'm not seeing and thank you so much for the assistance here because I'm having my presentation here and some videos and stuff to show you and I'm also reading the questions on the chat here and I cannot monitor the pad all the time. So thank you, thank you for your assistance here that we can do that. The comment from Ellen, the Terrex is one of ZDF's brands, documentation formats which focuses on historical and scientific topics. So of course that's why we don't have like the, we don't have other content, for example, hosts and people and actors into the in publicly and openly licensed files but like historical content and CGI and graphics. I don't understand the next question which is what is the process for checking the subtitle texts? And maybe you could elaborate on that or maybe Ellen understands this better than I do. I will maybe, maybe I can take you on a tour to ZDF comments, wait for it. I maybe I can just take you to the video right now. I will share my screen now and let's hope that this, thank you. Yeah, so we are having the video here and in, I'm clicking on that, hope it loads. And we always have here on the bottom of the video, so we have it here, on the bottom of the video, we also have the text Faso, beautiful German word. And there you have the whole transcript. And then you can easily go on and translate it with the tools you're using. This is always here and Ellen has already shared the link to that, to this overview here where you can find the different clips. They're also on Wikimedia comments, but not, as I said, the transcripts are not always being put into the comments uploads as well. Stop sharing. And especially, I don't know, so in the German language version, there's also another, we don't have a Wikipedia for easy language or Wikipedia for children in the project itself. There is this thing called Clexicon for little readers and which is, which cannot be accessed by anyone to make sure that there's only content that is adequate for young people. So there's a verification process before you can become an editor there. But I think in the Catalan Wikipedia, there's like an also a version, so there's not only the main page of the article and the discussion page to the article, but also the easy language version of the article. So maybe the content that's provided by CDF can help there for people who are struggling with language and who's reading because also the content that is provided in an easy language for children is being uploaded more and more by Terax and by CDF logo. Yeah, and if you could elaborate still on the checking the subtitle text question, we'd be happy to further assist you if there's anything more that you wanna know because we don't know what you want from us. We want to help, that's why we're here. So for everyone in the session now who has joined us later, we are now in the, in the path to the session, the link you can find in the program, of course. And we are now in the Q&A session at answering the questions about this collaboration between the CDF and the Wikimedia Deutschland and the Wikimedia Community, or the Wikilabs broadcast team. And yeah, finding ways to bringing more content into the comments and the content that is already there into different language versions and reaching out to new contributors to see what good we can do with the work we are already doing. I don't see the process for checking the text in this category. Okay. Maybe later in the, after the session, I will edit on this page here. And maybe you could also right now provide in the page videos, a category of videos, but here X with English subtitle file unchecked. Maybe you can add information there because as I said, the translation process is nothing done by Wikimedia Deutschland or nothing even, and the CDF itself also is not involved in that process. So this is, we, and I think we shouldn't intervene there too much because if there's something done in the English language version, then maybe later there's something done and there's also request for other language versions. So this may become a bigger issue here. And that's not what the translating is not what the CDF is the expert for. The CDF is an expert for bringing great content and producing great content and explaining things in a manner, in a way that is good for the public, for the broad audience. And they're doing a tremendous job here. And when we're doing a tremendous job translating on top of this material, that's amazing. But we shouldn't ask too much from the CDF here, they're providing content, but they're not there to our servers and to what our community needs all the time. So we are working together just fine, but we shouldn't ask too much of each other. Okay, I will have a look at that page and address it later. We have already dived into the different content that is provided. And I would now, since we still have some time, I would now guide you a little bit about the insights that we've gotten from the different content. So I already told you that this content is being built upon, being translated and being put into other platforms because this might come as a shock, but not all teachers and not all educators in different circumstances are searching for videos on Wikimedia Commons. They should, but they not always do. So that this content is now being found in different servers is really a great thing. And the pity of that though is that we cannot really monitor what's happening on other platforms. So there's an ongoing issue. And we, because of what we can monitor, we see some very, very interesting stuff. I'm now trying to share a screen again. And I think I'm driving the people supporting me crazy here because I already start and stop presentations all the time. Thank you for the assistance. So, sorry, this is a German presentation that I did in another context. You see here something I built with media views on Toolforge. And so where you can see the climate-focused content that is being watched. So these are the media files and the tracking of the views of the media files. And you see here, for example, by Klimafakt.co2, so Climate Factor CO2 that is being viewed around 1,500 times a day because it also is included into different Wikipedia language versions. And now I would like to focus your interest on the red graph here because we can see here if we look at the page views, sorry, the focus is a little bit off here. At the page views of Wikipedia pages in the German language. Try it again, maybe now you can see it better. Yeah, I fucked that up, sorry. You have the red line here, the red graph is arctis, the arctic. And how much this is viewed in the German language Wikipedia. And we can see that there are spikes here on two occasions. And I put some footage or some reports from at the beginning of June, so from these dates where these spikes have occurred under there. Because of course, as you know, the stuff that's being talked about in the media is being looked up in the Wikipedia and that therefore we could like measure where the spikes are in the interest and also that's how this translates into the views of the videos and on the data there. Which we can also see on Google trends the spikes of the interest. And what we could see, I'm skipping through some other things here, sorry, by we also have from another German broadcaster, public broadcaster, we have like videos like Daily Drone because there was a request from the community for that footage. And this is mostly Glam that is being uploaded there. And this is not so much adapted by different language versions which is a pity for the content, but it's good for us because it makes it easier to track for us and it's called a Daily Drone. And we can see here, for example, that the video Schlei Mündung is, so Schlei is a river in Germany. It corresponds with a peak of interest in the river Schlei itself. And there we can see that 4,000 clicks on, 4,300 clicks on the article Schlei transferred to 1,200 media views of the video. So these numbers are reliable and that the tracking really, really works. And of course we also double-checked that with Google Trends and we found out where, because this data is obviously not being recorded by Wikimedia and Wikimedia Foundation, Wikimedia Commons. But on Google Trends we could see where the interest peaked and then later we could find out that there was a public broadcasting report about the river. So people then looked up on the internet about that river and then found the content provided by another public broadcaster by the Deutsche Welle and then watched this to get further deep dive into that topic. So this may be a really nerdy intervention here, but it's very, it's fun to monitor how this content is used and that is, it lives and that people are actually looking it up and using it. So we're not, we're speaking to the void here with our programs, but we are, we have hoped and we have always of course told everyone that there may be positive use cases because of course public broadcasters are always eager to avoid risks because if I put something into the comments, what will happen with that? And then the Wikimedia perspective is something beautiful will happen with that, but there's also the legal department of the public broadcasters with a lot of stuff, that stuff could happen with it and as of now nothing bad has happened. The content has been there out there for over a year, but all the beautiful things that we had together imagined with teaching wise and interest wise and research wise, that did come through. Yeah, I see that, I see a lot of you in the stream now, but I don't see questions now and I am very happy also for suggestions and for input from your side as well. And of course, even after this session, we are happy to be approached by you. You have our contact data in the pad, I guess, or we will be putting it there so you can always reach out to us. You can always also know how my doorbell sounds and yeah, I hope very much that you will always, that we will find other people to inspire with the benchmark that we have done here. And of course, we also did like studies and tried to do some research around this content. We had to wait a little bit because this content has to live, it has to spread and then we can research and see where it has been going. We really, really hope that you will spread the word here and A, give us suggestions what we should do next and B, to suggest to other people to join us in that effort to bring great audiovisual content into the comments. Yeah, because there's so much great stuff out there and I'm totally happy with everything that Tarex is providing and CDF is bringing into the comments and I just hope that there's, that is even more because the archives of the public broadcasts, they are full of wonders and stuff that is, but it's hard to reach that and to get into there because it is hard for the broadcasts themselves to put something that they already have produced to licenses under Creative Commons license. But if they're aware of the potential that is being offered by Wikimedia Commons, by the Wikipedia projects and by Wikidata, then they may be open to put the idea of Creative Commons into their production process. We don't need all of the broadcasts, we don't need a 30 minutes video. The CGIs or short clips, this is what Wikipedia and Wikipedians like to use on certain pages. So, and this is something like we don't, usually we say we don't want the cake, we just want the crumbles and I think that's always the most delicious part. We are already involving the community in the, in requesting topics of course, but how is it inside the city and do you have thought involving the community in the journalistic processes like topics, questions, fact checking? Yeah, if you want, you can always answer the question also in German and I will translate for you, but we, before the presentation, sorry that you're here, just me talking all the time, we agreed on like collaborating in that way that Ellen will always answer your questions in writing to make sure that everything is in perfect order and you have the best experience here. And the, it's also, the CTF is a beautiful, big and complicated thing. They just, they cannot do what they want. There's a whole framework around that. So, of course they're in the focus of the public interest and there's like oversight boards, the CTF Fanzirat who then agrees on a concept, on what the CTF is working on and how it is working on that and how long the content can be provided. And for example, in this concept, there's always also a phrase or a paragraph that Creative Commons, videos provided under Creative Commons are part of their mission and that they are doing that and trying to reach out to the internet community, which of course also means Wikimedia projects. And so, they are happy for suggestions from the community and the community is reaching out to them on a regular basis, but they have to, they are also other input that they have to consider and also they cannot just build something new because the Wikipedia community has asked for it, but they can, if they're planning something, they can see, okay, there's a request for that. Can we also provide that under Creative Commons? And that is usually the way it works. So, we cannot say, please CTF, do you something about that topic and then they go on and produce it because this is a whole year-long process and there's a lot of people and money involved and also oversight boards, et cetera, et cetera. So, yeah, it's complicated. Another question is, do you tell your audience that the material is also available in the comments? At least in the German language, there is actually an explanatory video how to use Creative Commons videos provided by the CTF by one of the most famous moderators, hosts, Mirko Drotschmann, a public figure here in Germany who's explaining what they're doing and how they're doing it. And they're also mentioning it in different press releases. There's a YouTube channel called Terrex Plus, which Ellen just pointed out and there's the featured video on this channel. One of the featured videos is also about what is being provided here and how you are allowed to use it. So, there's a whole category and, yeah, there's a newsletter and there's a press releases. So, there is active communication about the Creative Commons project and this is being appreciated mostly by educators because in some countries there's broad copyright exceptions for educational use. In Germany, as always, it's complicated. So, there are limits to copyrights and you can use works for educational purposes but just in a certain percentage and just in a certain way if you're using the whole thing. So, the content that is provided by CTF under a CC license makes life for educators in Germany easier and it helps a lot. I used to be a teacher in Germany and I was very annoyed by the whole copyright thing. I mean, you can basically do what you want if you're not sued but the thing is if and you cannot share a great like you're preparing a class and you're using good content and you want to share this draft this class that you have given maybe just like and you can't because you would show publicly that you have wrongfully or used material that you were not allowed to although the creator or the rights holder has an interest to the content being used and shown in classrooms for I would have to get the agreement and the OK from the public broadcasters and since school and education is considered public in Germany as at least in the in the A levels like people 16 plus they cannot give you that OK if the content is not provided for educational purposes from the start or being provided under Creative Commons. So that's what's actually developing teachers in Germany as well as a Wikipedia community and there's also training courses and workshops for teachers provided by ZZF to further dig into the content and how they can use it and how they can orient themselves not only with the Creative Commons content being provided by ZZF but also with other content that they have and they of course love to see public schools and maybe FYI from an advocacy point and from engaging with public broadcasters when we started this whole thing so it was a community impulse a community request hey couldn't we collaborate with public broadcasters like ZZF and then later we can meet at Deutschland help with that effort and we also did like a community building around that we got together with teaching and education associations with public libraries with other NGOs and stakeholders here and also with journalists and journalist unions and interest groups so like on the one hand what kind of content do we need and on the other with the public broadcasters and journalists unions under which conditions can we provide content and we started these two conversations simultaneously and brought them together first we mostly did like public as a direct approach of course talking to people and then public articles like open letters like now in corona times all of your content should be free especially for educational use but what really really worked was a round table that we put together and on a yearly basis we meet and talk about what content can be used and how the content has been used and just sharing insights, integration process and getting to know each other further because sometimes for Wikipedia it's like the content there, why can't we use it and for the public broadcasters it's like why is the content used like that and why is the content that we are providing not good enough for you what's wrong so that's a great forum adding to the direct constructive feedback being provided by the community directly once a year to look at the broader picture and to sketch out ways that we can work together after that I'm just scrolling through the path now and there has been a lot of questions already so I'm really happy for that and if you would be so kind to also like from your own country maybe or from your own experience point out which other topics would be interesting for you so maybe that Ellen can just can forward the information about your request to the different departments in the city that there is a community engagement around that topic and where and maybe also can point out like pages and communities that are active around that point out to me which organizations and which departments maybe of public we as a movement should approach I'd be happy to further to bring that topic to a wider attention because of course there is a lot of cooperation going on concerning public media and concerning the cooperation between the between the content of the different platforms and a documentation that is being done by the BBC by the different radio stations and broadcasts worldwide is also good for the German audience if translated adequately and there of course exchanging footage and having license agreements on certain topics here so yeah there is there is conversation going on and I think there should also be a conversation going on inside the Wikimedia community about that and I'm really happy to channel that and to bring that forward we could talk more but I think I have from the sharing point I think we have shown you what we wanted to show you so I'd be happy to answer the last questions here or suggestions or even if you say well maybe maybe just end the session and we'll meet in the lobby afterwards so we can talk directly to each other I'd also be happy to wrap up the session here and just to sum up what we've talked about otherwise we can be we can leave this open for a minute so suggestions please put them directly into the pad and I'll monitor the pad and if I don't see it it will be forward to me here and otherwise we'll see you in the lobby for a bit just while we're waiting for the comments just a quick wrap up there's a lot of Wikipedia and Wikimedia communities out there there's Wikidata and Wikimedia comments there's different language communities they are doing a tremendous job and ZDF is bringing forward great material to support that mission and also of course to broaden their audience there's always that interest too and this is of course completely valid and I think in this we have we have shown that a very good collaboration can go on here we have a showcase from a public broadcast who is providing content into the comments and great stuff happening with that content we have seen it spreading on different platforms we have seen it used in an educational context we have seen it read up and translated into different languages it was completely it's flabbergasted us how quickly the stuff was adapted into different communities and we want to continue that work together in the cooperation and we want to see more content in the comments and we invite you to be part of that conversation to bring suggestions to El and to me how we can spread the word of course and bring even identify new material that can be helpful for the communities because although we cannot directly request productions for different topics we can ask whether there's already something there or whether there's something planned that's El and her colleagues and maybe can look into and also what kind of content we have had some great suggestions here in the session like the public figures, the names the employees of the public broadcast at CAF so that they talk out there strange sounding German names as well as providing a photo or video of them for WikiData for example which can be a good thing and also about and we found a way to make the translation into different languages easier because the scripts the transcripts are already being provided by the CAF which makes it easier for translation purposes than when you just have the audio and we have also talked about metadata and about the cooperation that's going on with Wiley already and about WikiData is used there and I highly recommend doing a deep dive maybe you can provide a link in the pad doing a deep dive into that cooperation as well because I also think this groundbreaking and this can be a good thing also for the stations and for other broadcasts to pursue I hope that you together with us will spread the word and I hope that we will hear from each other a lot more and thank you all for your attention, for your questions for your comments, for your remarks and for all the awesome community works that's already going on I'm very happy to be part of that movement so I'm of course an employee of WikiMedia Deutschland but I not by accident but by choice and especially because of that project here because of that cooperation because I can see that this helps people in the German language community and now you help us to also bring have the same effects in different language communities and on other projects because we are sometimes small in their reminder because we see what we're already doing and you inspire us to reach out for something new for example the cooperation with WikiData community and I'm very thankful and very happy for that thanks for all the inspiring people and all the inspiring comments and see you maybe at WikiMedia in 2022 we will also be attending the CC summit on that topic and to get some inspiration there and yeah, I hope that we will see you around via video call or in person at some time in the future or just write us an email thank you very much