 Check it, check it, check it, this is Unique Hust, this is your boy E-CEO and I'm here with the lovely official, Mr. Mako. What's going on? Nothing with Dad, we're all gone. Say man, hey man, this guy right here man, he don't really need no introduction, everybody been here and been on my show a hundred times, ever since I started, everything, the conversations keep coming through man, check it man, my boy OG Bobby Billions in the building. What's good? We outside man, what's good? Hey man, we right outside in Houston, man. We outside in the H right now. Man, hey man, you be busy bro, just my little time of following you right here recently, oh man, you got me going like, dang, he over here, he over there man. Man, they got me glowin' tryin' right now. They gotta feel good bro. It do, it feel good, it's tiring, but it feel good. It feel good, I know it feel good, cause that was it, that's the dream, right? That's the dream, that's what we asked for. Yeah, yeah, and the thing I could say about you man is when I think about what you done, the way you came into the game, it really trips me out because really when you look at it, not just in Texas, but there ain't no artist that making the kind of music that you make. Appreciate that. You know what I'm saying? The sound, the way that your delivery is, it's different bro. Nah, for sure, that's what I'm aiming for, for sure, keep it a little different. It's different, I mean, do you get that? For sure, for sure, it's something unique, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, for sure. You know, you want, get him. Yes, I want to go back, I want to go back to before you were Bobby Billion. Yeah, yeah. Tell me about yourself, little kid runnin' around barefooted? Little kid runnin' around, you know. Runnin' down at home? My, we stayed in my granny's crib until my mom's mighta moved when I was probably when I was 14, she moved to the Grove. So, raised by your grandma? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spoiled brat. Wow. So, like that, you know, Granny gon' hold it down, for sure, and my grandfather. But they make you get away with a lot compared to how your parents normally would. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Were you the baby? Nah, I was the big, I was the big brother. Oh, really? How many siblings? At the house, it was just me and my sister, but I got most siblings. Okay. At the house, it was just me and my sister, the cousins, you know, here and there. So, was your mom and dad in your life? Yes, yes, yes, always, they, I love them to death, both of them, both of them. They should be very proud of you now. For sure, for sure. They probably be like worried about you, you know, that's what parents do once you start moving fast. Oh, yeah, always. Always, always. Don't be out here saying this and don't be out here saying that. You know, they gon' keep it real, that's what I love about you. They gon' keep it real every time. And how did they feel when you said you wanted to go into the music industry? Cause most parents be like, no, you used to get a job, that don't pay no money. You know, I'ma say, uh, I'ma say that my parents and my people were supportive. I think my grandmother in particular always wanted me to make music, that's kind of always, man. I think she's always wanted me to do that. And, and that's something that, that's something that I was, I, I, even before I started making music, I just knew, like, like my, my attitude was always like, rapper-ish. Like I was, I've always moved like a rapper. Describe a rapper-ish attitude. Tell me about that as well. Like I was, I was the cool kid going up, you know, in school. I was always the popular kid. I was. Played sports? No, I played football until my, uh, to my, to my junior year. I stopped playing sports my junior year and just start kicking it too hard. Too cool for football. Yeah. I was getting too cool for school. No, no, I got, I like it. I mean, I should have did it too. I broke my damn leg. I definitely like, I should have got out. Yo, yo, I was too short to go pro and I know when nobody going pro down there where I was playing at, I kind of messed up my career. Yo, no, no, for sure. Yeah, I got a Dak Prescott injury and didn't even get paid behind it. I, it's just bad, man. Not the day. Yeah, it's bad, man. So, so let me ask you something, man. So when you, when you think about like the Dallas movement and what's going on in Dallas, how do you feel about where the music is at right now? Me personally, I love it. You know, I love what the music said. And I know, I know what I'm working on. I know we finna take it so much farther. Like, I know at the end of the day, we finna, we finna knock this out of the park. I'm already knowing. You know, I got to respect you because when I look at the people that I've interviewed, like platinum, just platinum related people and platinum artist is just you. I did the row and I did Mr. Lee and DJ Choles. I don't know if I did. Oh, KLC with Beast by the Pound. So there's a certain one now. See, you and a whole different. Now I've interviewed over 300 people in the last 10 months. Yeah, that's the elite group. I just said, yeah, I could name a good company. That's good company right there. Good company. Yeah, I can't believe that it came for me. Bobby Billions came out of nowhere. You know what I'm saying? And when you came and I did for sure, that's definitely that. That's definitely how it is for a lot of people, even for even for me, because, you know, outside is really that's really my first single. So yeah, I'm telling you, you got a song that's a blessing. Really happened really fast. Like, yeah, that's when everybody knew who you were. Yeah, first single, first on the first project. And it's just for everything just happened fast. You know, all this is within the last year. I know, you know, that's the same time we started this podcast. We were all like Bobby, but you know, we ain't on that level. But yeah, we were out here with you. We started January and a year of life has just been crazy. Man, Bobby, man, you a dope dude. Man, like I said, when I seen that song and heard when I heard that song, I couldn't turn it off, bro. I mean, you know, from the jump, it was it was it was it was catchy, man. But a lot of people, you know, they give you a flack, you know, already they say, I mean, you was on say cheese and these boys is going crazy right now. They say that you what they what they say, they say that that that you lying to bloggers in Dallas, they are he lying, man. Nobody was listening to that song like they weren't getting that spin. So what was this song getting the spins or not? You know what I'm saying? The song was for show getting the spins. DJ Rogers was playing it on the radio in Houston. OK. Playing the original before I got to three. He was up. You got hit that you got up. You got them over there in 97. I was OK, OK. Spaceboy over there, too. Yes, spaceboy. I got playing, man. I got family on all sides. So I got family, I got family on all sides. We had baby on on board. So so Space was pushing the song early had to be because you're on the Billy game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. for show for show for show space was on it. It was on everybody. Everybody in ninety seven nine was up was on it and came on a phone show. So I mean, I'm I'm going to be honest with you. When I heard of the song, it was when the mode three thing happened. That's a lot of people ain't going to be a lot of people. I'm telling you that's when I heard it because it after his death, some of the lyrics that was being said seemed like they was pretty much like a like he predestined to say these things. And it pretty much produced a thing to where it was like, OK, this song had to be made after his death. Yeah, I'm being real. It's crazy. That's how that's how that's how the song feels. That's that's definitely how it feels. It gives and just the just the just the heavenliness of it with with the with the choirs and adding, you know, and then him singing, him him taking at the church. He say, Jesus, please, can you feel my needs? And I'm like, hey, man, this man dead already. I'm being real. This guy passed on and he's still saying these things that equate to see what people don't want to really be honest about. When you get an artist on a song like that and he done passed away, like when Pog passed away, you want to hear something to relate him to God. No, for sure. You know what I just said? See, this boss talk 101 for sure. So basically what happens is you people are looking for that. I remember my homeboy solo guy killed man, R.P. Solo. And I used to you know what we was teaching Bible study. This was over about what 15 to 17 years ago. And when he got killed, I went to the wake and his mama say, I remember when he used to put the blunt out and stop in the studio and just have Bible study with you. You know what I'm saying? People be looking for that place or that connection to God. And I think that song pretty much if you are a Mothrie fan, you could count it when he said, Jesus, please, you felt that. Am I right? For sure. You felt it every from beginning to end. Yeah, that was that's a that's a powerful verse. It's powerful, man. And that's what woke me up. You know, I'm like, this nigga, then I'm like, OK, O.G. Bobby Billions didn't kill it. This is going to go platinum. So I heard that. And this is me speaking from the outside looking in. I heard that you gave all the proceeds to his family for the song and everything else, the rights to the song. No, no, just to. Well, well, no, I ain't give the right. I ain't give the rights to what did you. What did you do? No, no, no. We made sure that his press like his percent of the song went to the family and made sure that, yeah, made sure that they that's that was good, that they was that they that they write. Yeah, yeah, because, you know, this text you sent the other time, it it it woke some people up, you know, and I'm going to be honest with you. It did. You know, Rain came on the show and when Rain came on the show, he told me something that that and this was right before the text. And he was like, I took Bobby to get his deal. And when I took him to get his deal, he said, now, wait a minute. Let me finish. He said when I took when I took him to get his deal, I took him. And then after that, you know, I introduced him to the right people like there's Gazi and all the Empire family or whatever. Yeah. And then it's like, and then after that, we didn't do it right then. But he went back and I'm like, oh, you got an email. Oh, you don't already you don't sign with him. That's kept. OK, OK. Well, explain to me why that don't even fit. No way. Yeah, none of that. That's kept. OK, so how did you go get your deal? So look, he's never took me to to them at all. The way I the way I got the way I got in in cahoots with with Empire was because that's who we're doing the deal with for outside. OK, you know, they got it. They kind of that's kind of how we how we started to get in the conversation. He didn't he didn't take you and he didn't know those guys. No, but what I do, what I will say is I will. I do believe that that Ryan was talking to them. Maybe just, you know, talking to them about me like he's a dope artist. You give him this situation that I'm going to I'm going to let you manage me. And I'm going to say you are for that. You were supposed to get him. I think he said five percent. It kind of went like, yeah, he said that he would give me five percent. This didn't this cap. That's kept. Yeah, that's kept. I was like, man, so you tell him. But no, he was he would he would be like rain was begging me to get to make that to make the presentable. My manager is just not going for that. So do you think that my manager will go for it? Do you think that's why he feel away about it? I think he felt he probably feel away because of that. But he wanted he wanted to be on board with us. But, you know, Ryan got that stigma with his name. Yeah, yeah. And that's really that's that's that's really why my my my team wasn't going to let it wasn't going to rock out with it. That's really what it was. And honestly, it and I heard you apologize for you was like, say, geez, I'm Sean Connolly. You was like, I apologize for what happened. But it was like you was baited a little bit. I seen it. Yeah, for sure. And you know, yeah, for sure, for sure. I for sure I just don't I just don't need to say nothing to him because then you know, it's going to start again. You know, it could get a little heated. Well, I just knew I had to come and interview you because I didn't want you know, I didn't want people to look at me like, oh, you know, he ain't rocking with Bobby, he rocking with I want to make sure it's love because I like I tell you, bro, you got it. You got it. You got it. If you know that sign sign with sign with someone making music with three and Freddie, if you're not in it, you got to spread the love. You got to. You brought that up. You got it. You know, because it looks funny when you. Yeah, it looks like I was eating. No, let's watch right now. Let's go. Let's go in the speculations. Yeah. And I see that in you. I told my wife, you remember that day when I say, you know, this was early on when you first done it, when you did the song with Trap. I said, man, you know what? I need that dude. Go back and look at your text. And may I sent you a deal to come on my show? And the reason I did it in my damn because I heard that I heard that you had did. I hadn't even heard the song with Trap. I didn't need to hear it. But I felt like your heart was in the right place. No. And so I was like, for you to do that, I was like, OK, I know it looked crazy, but we got to bridge the gap. No, we got to bridge the gap. If we don't bridge the gap, we just keep the stuff going. No, it's a it's a it's a it's a the right. You got to be the right person to do it. You got you just can't really care about the outside noise. And that's me, like, you know, none of that other stuff matter to me. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to do it my way. It's just that's just how I always been. So. So did OK. So Trap say he told you not not to do it. He said no, he said, take your time. He was like, don't rush it. Don't rush it like, you know, don't rush it. Don't rush and put it out. But what did you think about that when he said that? I liked him. I like he was keeping it real. He was telling me how he feel business. He was he would tell me all the time. You know, he he gave me he gave me advice. He was giving me advice, you know, around that time, often telling me, you know, I would I would move like this. I would do it. I would do it that way. You know, this business, basically, you know. Well, and go ahead. But with me, like, I must say, part of what made me just say I am going to put it out is just me listening to how to how some of the people in the background was feeling like I'll be getting them. The people hit me up. Hey, you need to go when you're going to slide for three. I had to go and let them know. Look, this ain't that kind of party. That ain't how we don't even what I'm all like. So the negativity that drove you to say, let me show that. Let me show y'all. Yeah, let me show y'all. Let me go in and squash all of that and show y'all. No, wait a minute. Let me ask you again. You say that people were saying when you're going to slide for three. Like when you're going to go and take like you you over here with them. It made you look away. Yeah, because you had did that song. And that was basically for show. The man like I'm a part of the I'm a part of the circus. But I and so that that kind of pushed you to say, OK, let me go do this. They push that way. So I just push back. I get it. I get it. But now you didn't never meet mode three. Never. No, I never met him. I never know. I know. You spoke on the phone a few times, but that's you. That's as far as it's ever got. Yeah, that is just a few times. Just a few times. And and did he seem as if like because when a person does a feature of something with you, a lot of time, their intention is cause you not on a level that they're on. Maybe he felt like he could bring you in under his team. I'm just I'm just saying because you didn't have a lot going on at the time. I would imagine anybody would want to bring me on the team. But we really had we really had that conversation. And that ain't really what I was. I wouldn't that's not what I that's not the type what I was on anyway. I wouldn't I wouldn't have done that. Yeah, because you just feel like why why wouldn't you have done that? And my mind, I mean, I already got a team, you know, I got I got I got my I got my know, you got a team. I got a team. And and it's like. I wouldn't want to go under an artist. I get me personally. You wouldn't want to go under some for some people, you know, that's that, you know, for some people that that'll work. But for me, you know, I wouldn't want to do it. Yeah, I don't want to look like I'm under another artist. I get it. But let me. But he had he had a team HSM. Yeah. And and to to jump on that track like that, that was that was love. You know what I mean? Not for sure, for sure. And and I mean, usually, I mean, it wasn't no charge or nothing like that. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, it was it was straight. It was he liked the song, you know, so. So what would you what what your your feelings about mode three today? He passed on how do you feel about him and the situation and how everything is occurring right now? Man, I think I think it's really unfortunate, really, how everything went down. You know, I hate it happened like that. I hate I hate that happened to him. You know, for sure. And I think I think I think my three was a was a was a very talented artist, you know, he was, you know, he could sing his heart out. Yeah, I get it. I get it. So let me let me just ask you like when I was when I had rain because I like to rebut everything that was said rain said that he basically didn't like the fact that you wouldn't did that song with Trap, boy. Yeah, that's what made him. That's what that's what I that's when we fell out. That's the show when we kind of really, really, really wouldn't. What did he do? He called you out of that. Yeah, he called he called. What was the conversation like? Ma'am, oh, you you you you you when you when did the did the song with Trap, Trap, boy. Kind of like, and what did you think? I mean, I was just like, yeah, you like, yeah, because you're not in the controversy. I mean, yeah, he and then that's not the first time that he's he's he's known that I've, you know, that you are from Oaklea. Yeah. And he also he's over that in that area as well. He from that he from around, you know, see the hill for sure. So you would have thought, OK, so he he was like, now you this may be cab or I'm just going by what I what he told me. He said that one of your friends had passed away, which I knew that because me and Space talked about it. Yeah. And he he he came in his live and he was talking about it, talking to him, the guy who ever did it, had to have something to do with it. Yeah. And then it was like you called him and said, man, what you doing talking to me? Why are you messing with that dude? No, I ain't what I said. I just told him this smoke, I'm gonna whoop you when I see this. What I told him. For real? Yeah, but I mean because because that's your boy. Come on, come on, come on, it's your friend. And he was like, why would you do that? And it's because I know, you know, that was intentional like that. And it wasn't like it wasn't like me making music with Freddie. Like that was that was that was that's me making music. He intentionally just bra dude on his life to try to make me mad, which wow, which he didn't make me mad. I mean, he don't make me mad, but let me tell you something, Bobby, man. You you special and you can't be letting dudes trick you out your position no matter who it is. No, for sure, being real, bro. You got opportunity that people know. I just told you the names of the platinum artists that are an interview, bro, and it's a limited number, right? So you can't you can't afford to. I mean, there's a lot of people that's depending on you, first of all, and then there's a lot of fans that that that want to hear more music. And the biggest question that I have now for you is can Bobby O.G. Bobby Billions make. Make other hit biggest those the outside thing. Oh, yeah, they come out. Do you think you can do it? I know I'm going to do it. And even it doesn't even know it is not even no speculation for me. I know it's I know it's going to happen. I already got the music. So you feel like the next time when I hear something, I'm going to be having you back on the show in studio in Dallas. Yeah, I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that a hundred times for show. You I'm going to do it. I'm going to do that a hundred times. How do you know the formula to make that happen? Man, it just starts with making really good music. It just starts with like you say that different sound. Yeah, like it starts with making really good music. When she went, I think that's the formula for me. Making a really good music. I was always being like, once I when I started making music, I was to I tell my guys all the time, you know, don't worry. Once I when I draw my first project, it's going, it's going, it's going up. Like, yeah, it's going up. Yeah, man, my boy, you know, he came on my on my platform. Oh, you're your partner, a space boy. He he dropped 16s and everything else. He's special, man. He on the fly, man, with it. Yes, he got some now. Now, your your old name was Stan, the man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what he told me. He said, that man used to promote, man. He used to throw parties instead. It used to be my thing. I used to throw for I was I was I was the cool guy. Like I was I was not just a cool guy. I was the coolest. Cool, the coolest. I was at the head of the cool title. You got the cool kids title. I was at the top seat. Yeah, for sure. Do you have anything else? I know she's waiting. When I was watching one of the interviews, I noticed you mentioned Holy. Holy goat, yeah. Yes, and one and two. One and two. Two is actually what's on the way right now. OK, one is with outside. What's the hold up with two? Because the last time you said that it was it was going to be out in August, yeah, what happened? So it's it's we clearing features. That's really what it is. Clearing, making sure we get all the features. We won't get them cleared and stuff like that. It's really the what I'm what I've learned when you really get into it. The part that's the most work is the paperwork. Yeah, yeah, yeah, everything can be done and sitting down. You just wait for all the paperwork to be clear. Yeah, and how long can I take? It can't take it can take as long. I don't know. So you tell me all your work is finished. I'm pretty, yeah, I'm done recording. You're just waiting for I've I've I've done it down and recorded how they go to and how they go three. Wow. When do you plan to put out? OK, say because everybody is different. But for you and what you're seeing and learning, if you release part two, like say next month, when would you want to release with all clearances already cleared? When is a logical time to release three? I would want to I want to come. I want to come with these next couple ones pretty fast. So I want to hit them with two. If I hit them with two in November, I want to come back six months after just every six months. Yeah, OK. How many songs do you put on a project? Twelve, twelve. Yeah, OK. So that's a good amount. Well, go ahead. When you when you think about how can we bring Dallas back together? That's what I always ask me. What do you think the whether you are a smart guy? I always ask this question. I'm going to forever ask this question because we got to do something, man. But I think the move you made was it's truly sure you're playing chess and not checkers. Yeah, that's yeah, that's that's that's that's that's for sure. What are we doing? Yeah, that's what we're doing. So what do you think? What do you think it's going to take? I mean, you know, honestly, I'm not going to say, you know, there's always going to be people that don't like other people. Correct. That's just part of life. This is what I'm talking about. When but a lot of time when you go to Atlanta, they put their differences to the side and for the music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the music, you've seen it. Yeah, for show, for show, for show, for show, for show. Do you think we'll ever get there? I think we can get there. I think we got to we just got to we got to come together and get there. You know, it's not once once one of us get there because we got somebody got to really get there first. You know, we it's like it's like there's a ceiling. It's it's like there's been a ceiling on Dallas rap on Dallas rappers. Like, would you ever work with Seven Dunder? You know, I really I would. I would. I would. Would you work with Seven Dunder? But see, the thing is this one I'm going to be a honey with you. I would. I think I think I ain't never met Dunder. But I think seven a cool dude like seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven. Cool. Cool. So you would you would do what I'm going to say is you have a I got that. I got I have a disdain for rain right now. That's where I don't even know how that'll work. You know, I don't know how that'll work. I really don't. But I get it. But I I I I ain't got no problem with none of it. No, nobody with him. OK, I get it. I ain't got no problem with nobody with him. And so do you think you all can have a menu ways? The thing is, I don't even I don't even really want to. Like, it ain't that I want to do because he's he's he's like he likes that drama. Like, you know, that's not nothing that I really just want to just mess with it. Like, mm hmm. I heard you mentioned before that you never used to really mess with Dallas music. Yeah. Why is that so when you were born out there? I just I've just always had my favorite artists. I've already been like I like Wayne Drake. I like Jiggle. I like. So there's no dance artists even in the past that you've ever just like why I was just jamming and stuff, right? Unless it was on the radio. Well, it ain't never been nobody and nobody that I that I've just that I just listened to any Dallas artists like that. The stuff that's on the radio, you know, that's the kind that's what catches my attention. But minus that, I ain't never really just been in a big Dallas music, big Dallas music fan. You trying to get you trying to take over the world? I'm trying to take over the world. Oh, yeah, I'm listening to everything and so you know, the stuff that's the biggest is a lot of times of stuff when you listen to everything, that's just going to catch your ear the most. Yeah, real talk. So do you let me let me ask you this. Do you do you feel like do you think if more three was what do you think more three would approve what you doing? The song with try boy? Yeah, I don't think he would occur. I don't think he would be be it was like it is if he was living it wouldn't be it wouldn't be none of that extra stuff. So it was it would have been cool to do that song. Yeah, yeah, and I would have for sure. And and I wouldn't have cared who care. I mean, just like just like now, I just really wouldn't care who cared about nothing. But for sure, I feel like three, three, three was from what I from from from the times that me and spoke three was solid, a solid dude, you know, that's that's that's that's real. That's that's womanlike behavior to be. Oh, I don't want you to. Yeah, you you know, just because you spoke to me, you can't speak to I don't know. I don't know none of them. I get it. Yeah. So I definitely understand. I feel you. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's what everything the way how everything went. Did all of this. Did you math out the way how everything would fall? Or did it just fall in your lap? All these opportunities. Moe being up. Well, I know how Moe got on there. Yeah, but with Trap Boy, did you sit down and be like, OK, to get that's I'm going to do this. I'm going. Oh, yeah, yeah, when it when it got to that. So so I didn't plan like who was going to be on outside or those kind of things, those kind of things. It's kind of started the things that started to happen. You know, you know what, you know where you're going to go. You see a you see the finish line. But you know, sometimes I take these twists and turns to get there. Yeah. But you never know. You never know what you never know. Sometimes you never know what you're going to throw your way. Hey, you never know what you're going to throw your way. Do you really seriously feel like outside would have been as big if mode three, because I heard you kind of you kind of was on that. Like, hey, this thing was going to be big regardless. Do you really feel like I think outside was going to be big regardless, no matter what. Now, no matter not, I think I know outside was going to be big no matter what. But only big if you had a feature with a big artist for show for show. And that's what I was looking for. But now we're just you on there. Yeah, no, because you got to you got to you got to you got to have you got to get away to get the whole world to hit a song. And the way you do that some of the time, especially when you're just starting, that's what matter of fact, that's what all artists do. You know, you don't see too many artists that go big without a co-sign. You need to cut you. You don't see, like, like you got you got Drake. Go ahead, Wayne, correct. Kanye had jigger, correct. You can't say that Drake wasn't going to be big if he running away. Like Drake was going to be somebody else with a he's he has a talent that somebody is going to discover that same with you. Yeah, like you just can't deny good music. Good music is just it's going to happen. Come hell of a hot water. Like like I was saying, you got that finish line. His twist was just ended up being one. You know, my twist ended up I ran in the three. You know, like that's that's that's the bottom line. Like, you know, any three, three, three twists was running in a boosty on everybody and your friend, everybody and your partner. You know, that's kind of just how the game go. You know, you know, that's that's how you get there, you know. Yeah, I think it I think, yes, it would have been big if some another big artist did it. But I don't think it would have been as big as how it got because of the situation and his passing and the words and the way how everything came out because of all the controversy. I think the song does fit the situation so well that that made it blow up even bigger. So even just you getting a big artist on there and not going through a whole bunch of, you know, controversy, it'd be all right, but not like how it did right now. Yeah, if a show and what I will say is for show sonically, like the way the way the song touches you for show, it would have been it wouldn't have been as big if another artist. But this is what I'm when I say it when I say it was going to in my it it was going to be big regardless. You know, the song was going to three sounds the best on the song. But when you if I'm let me say, I open on my phone right now, three sounds the best on the song. The the the mode three version is the best sounding. The mode three versus the best verse, the best outside verse you can have. But then you go look at this. We just go to my show. I'm I'm a jump in my phone to show you what I mean. When I say a bigger artist is just going to do more for you. So look at that outside Blue Face last seven days, one point two, six million streams. Wow. Mode three outside five hundred thousand streams. Wow. So Blue Face is it's got more. Streams more is streams more, you know, because and it's not and it and it's and it's not that it's a better song. It streams more because it's just a bigger artist. Wow. Yeah, it's just that it's just the name of the game. So do you OK which version you you like the mode three? Oh, yeah, I like the mode three version. That's what I play. I'm I'm I'm I'm with I'm with all y'all. They be my dear. That's my favorite version. That's my favorite version to my favorite version, too. I love it. So that's what that's what got us here. And you know, the other songs that you have now it with the biggest that outside is it's hard to do they're not they're not getting the traction for show, for show. Like outside, I see. So and they go back to the same thing, you know, outside. When you when three past, he was just a bigger artist. So, you know, you got a big. That's a big that's that that that made that a really big feature. So that's that's that's going to do them crazy numbers. It's a good song. You put a big feature on it. Boom. Like, like, especially when you can do it like like outside is arguably one of three best songs, arguably. And so, you know, you are. Let's say let's say I make let's say I make a song. It's just an amazing song and Drake jump on it. And it's a song so good that it's Drake best song. You know, it's going as this or or whoever, whoever, whoever, whoever you reach and get if I if I put something together, that just the aesthetics of the song, make the song real good. You know, they jump on it. It's going to do is going to be bigger than a lot of other songs. Are you who's next? Because you you. Hey, man, you make feature. That's what I'm saying. I'm not excited. Everybody look, we're going. We're going to stop everywhere. The bus going to stop. Who would you really like to work with next? I mean, you know, if we just dream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dreaming is like it's like Drizzy or Kanye or somebody. Somebody that's so big that it's just going to make so much money that I just don't got to do nothing. So you wouldn't do nothing else? Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know that of you. Yeah, I'm going to say I wouldn't do. I'm going to say I'm going to do nothing else, but I don't know, man. You know, like the goal at the end of the day, there ain't to be no rapper. The goal is that bag. Yeah, the goal is the goal is that bag for me. But it takes investment. Once you start making that money, you got to put it all in the right place. You do. You got to put it in the right places. But I want to know. With you said that you can top it. You can top outside. Yeah, I got better songs than that. So you got better songs than outside for show. Is it coming on your next album? I'm going to have a bit for show. There's going to be some better songs on that side on my next. Tell me which name to look for that, you know, only is going to be better than outside for the record. So when it comes out, everybody going to be looking. OK, he said this song is going to be better than outside. Like all my life, I like Doomsday. I like it's a few. No, no, let's give me one. I like the answer. I need one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because one thing they drop in here, it's going to be the whole album. Yeah, I need one song to compare with outside and say, OK, I'm going to say one song is going to be better than outside. And will you have a feature on that song? So I'm going to say I'm going to say the better song to me, the better song might be when I'm looking at this right now, it might be right away and on right away. I don't have a feature. Now, the bigger song, you know, what's better and what's bigger is two different things. Like I just showed you the outside, outside three is better. It sounds good. But the one that's the one that's getting bringing me up the most money is the other one. But the biggest one is going to be bigger than the bigger. I'm going to go with on this album. I'm going to go with all my life. And now it's going to have features on it. Yeah, it's going to have a couple of features. Couple. Do you want to say who is on a feature? No, I want to. So let me ask you this. How important, how important is. And this is crazy. I'm about to ask you this question. How important is your manager when you're dealing with the way you move? Oh, he's very important. My manager. You see what I'm saying? My manager be mad at me most of the time. My manager be on the stand. Because some people be alluding to the fact of how mode three, you know, crashed out. Yeah, bad management. You think you think he wouldn't have crashed out if the management was not like it is. Yeah, bad management. But do you think that he's the type of person that will listen? It's kind of how you coach him because he's been dealing with it for years. No, I think you see what I'm saying? Now, what I'm going to say is I think, yeah, I think if you got somebody in your corner, if you got somebody in your corner telling you the right stuff, you're going to listen. Like if you talking to somebody, if you got the right person, if he ain't going to listen, then you just not the right manager. If he's just not going to listen. If you can't, but I don't think that's the case. I just don't think I think I think I think do feel like B sales. I think so. You feel like it was because they had the problem where a yell in him had to fight and it was like, you know, when I beat him up, thing came about. So so all this stuff was circling around all these events. So the reason I ask you that was because I asked him, I said, and we asked him and he said, mode three would have crashed out long before if he hadn't been his manager. I don't think so. I think I think I think I think I think I feel like Ryan was for show pushing him to to do to do the extra stuff. I feel like I feel like you feel like it says like, you know, some people. Some people got think I've heard. I might have heard him say that. Yeah. That beef sale. Really? Yeah. I feel like I heard him say that somewhere. That beef sale. Yeah. But yeah, that pushes the culture. But it's this is real life. This is not a video. Exactly. So your feelings on it is it should be de-escalated and de-escalated fast. And that's and I don't want to put words in your mouth. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But I want to put words in your mouth. But I mean, the the the move you made with the Trap Boy thing, a lot of people was upset about it. But yeah, it was a move that you felt needed to happen in order to try to, you know, and show that I'm not in. I'm not just what I wanted to do, even on even on top of the fact that I want to show y'all that I'm that I'm like show y'all that I ain't. I ain't I'm not on nobody side in that situation. On top of that, it's just what I wanted to do. Trap, one of the biggest artists in Dallas. I want to work with Trap. Period. And then that's really that that's really when it when you with it buckled out to he one of the biggest artists in my city. Cool, dude. OK, cool, super cool, dude. Yeah, super cool, dude. Are any artists from Houston on your album? Yeah, dope. OK, yeah, I got one song called Texas. It's really it's a really dope song, too, is me walking back. So it's a bad song. It's a bad song. So so which other city is embracing you outside of Texas that you like? Dang, like one of my biggest, one of my biggest is going to be Cali. Cali. Yeah, sure. You got Atlanta is big. Mississippi rock with me hard, even though it's even though it's smaller, you know, numbers wise, of course, numbers wise, the bigger city, the bigger the biggest states going to look bigger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, when you look at the analytics, so you're going to go, you know, of course, you're going to have Cali, you're going to have New York, you're going to have it on the top of your stuff. What's the craziest thing that you've seen a fan do since you've you've come in and start them? Like, like it could be male or female. I've seen it all, man. I've seen it all. You know, people crying, you know, yeah, like, you know, people again, start to break down. How does it make you feel? Yeah, it feels it feels it's an amazing thrill. Yeah, it's an amazing feeling in it. And I say this was overnight. Wow. What's the saddest story you've heard from a fan? The saddest story. I know sometimes they come with some sad stories. They might, but I don't know. Maybe they might come in my dreams to be like some like I need. But I mean, my mind, it's all it's all a scam. So I don't even pay enough attention. Yeah, in my mind, that's what I'm just thinking. Like, you know, I think she was looking to more like if somebody was sick and they wanted him to come. Oh, yeah, I don't think he probably had like people get shot and they parents, parents hit me. It was like, you know, you want his favorite artists. Can you can you hit them open? I've done that. You talk about getting shot. That's what it's all about. What do you think about that kid who shot in Dallas? Because they say because of bullying, he shot that other kid because he saw it. Did you see the fight? I saw the fight. I saw it fast because my manager went to that school. Wow. That's where my manager graduated from. And I was with him when it went down. So what do you think about what he did? Man, you know, you just can't be you can't. You can't be you can't be in the school shooting up the school. That's right. At the end of the day, you know, like you can't be in the school shooting up the school, you know, knuckled up, get some fighting He was trying to fight, but he couldn't get the best of him. But I mean, you know, I might have would have let that thing go to. But oh, no. And listen, no, oh, gee. That's the day and the age we live in now. I don't even think it is unless we're in a ring. I'm not fighting anyway. No, I'm I'm I'm not fighting anyway. Sometimes you don't have to fight somebody come up to you because from the way how to make it sound like he's been bullied, meaning like the dude come up to him and to start fighting him. What you going to stop there and just not defend yourself, not fight back? No, me, I probably would have shot him. But what I'm saying is I would have gotten trouble for that, too. OK, let me ask you this. I wouldn't have been right. I mean, we human, we make mistakes when I ain't nobody always right. But you, you, you know, boxing is something that they got. My boy, a whole lot of wood shit. He been on my show. Yeah. And, you know, that's something that's an option. I mean, would you be willing to square off in the boxing ring with a with rain for a celebrity boxing man? Yeah, yeah. Line it up. But you know, he wouldn't know. He's not going to do it. Rain would if the money is right, because he'll do anything for the money. You think he'll get the money? I mean, he needs some money right now. Probably. So do you feel like you you you said that you feel like because of this project, you were able to put money in his pockets to help this brand? Is that really a real thing? Or you just said that because it was kept? Oh, that's a real thing. Outside is outside is making money. And he ran what is running what is up, mostly, you know what? Let me say, I don't know what they paperwork on their side because he didn't have no paperwork. And we talked about that on my show. Yeah. But the Empire Solid, though, they finally came back. Empire is solid. Empire, that's one thing I said, working with Empire. I'm positive they solid they solid people. And so I'm pretty sure I would be really. I'm pretty sure rain is not he getting something out from outside. Got to be got to be. He ain't just working. Yeah, he getting something from outside or or he or he would be on a kind of like label mates type deal. Not his labels at you. But no, you might say that. No, no. No, because we both because outside. Yeah, we both we both we both we both a empire. Yeah. But let me so why did you sign with because everybody is going independent nowadays? Why did you choose to sign with a late? I like, no I got a distribution situation and the way, what made me. How does that work? Cause we, you know, we knew till the game night. So basically they take a percentage of yourselves but you get to keep your own, you keep ownership of your music. Okay. And so they were the first people to come to me with the option because when you get a record deal on, when you get a record deal that's not a digital deal they're not letting you keep your masters. Yeah. Like that's basically how it was. It was like, they were the first ones to come to me letting me own my own music. Wow. And so that's what I, that's what mattered the most to me. How many labels approached you before them? Everybody. And you just decided to go with the empire. That's, if I got a thing about the South, they like, they do real good. I think they got some good relationships or some good scouts or something. They, they be getting the, like they get the south. They get to, they get to. But you must have liked empire because some people would have worked their heads and like say you liked another label more, but they weren't giving you what you really wanted. Some people go back. But see, they got to find another label to give you more money. No, some people, no, some people would go back to them because I know, and say, well, you know, empire offer me this, can you match it? Especially if you wanted to, you know, go with somebody else. Yeah, for sure, for sure. But you must have just liked empire while you didn't try to do that. But see, the thing about it is empire's not gonna match. Empire, empire's especially not at the beginning. They're not gonna offer me more money than the other labels were offering me. The other label's gonna give you more money up front. That's cause they wanna own all your stuff. Really? So they gon' flash the cash in front of you. But the thing is, you know, we, the money, when you on your own music, you get your money on the back end. On the back end. And it's, and it's, they not gonna give you more money than they gonna make from you. Like, they offering you $2 million is cause you feeling that's cause they gonna get that money back. They gonna make 10 million dollars. And after they make that 10 million dollars, they still own your music forever. So they gonna make another 10 million, another 10 million, they gonna make it forever. And a lot of people calling for that, right? For sure. It's easy to fire a fire when you ain't never had nothing. You know, if you ain't never had nothing, somebody gon' show you. Somebody gon' tell you, I give you a million dollar deal. I had those offers. Or even somebody in a situation where they got bills to pay a family support right now. Yeah, for sure. And they can't afford to wait on the back end. Yeah, for sure. Who in Billy gang is up next? I mean, you know, you, now you, you got an opportunity to open some eyes on Billy gang. No, for sure. You got an opportunity. Yeah, for sure. To like the whole team. Nigga, y'all can do a masterpiece, no limit back in the 90s. For sure. For sure. You got, you got space, of course. You got Tony Mitch, Mike Riley, like, you know, David, my DJ going crazy right now. David, it's been driving. Are y'all gonna do something together? Just, we do. We already, we done already recorded something. We got something. Okay, so y'all gonna do something. We're on the way. Any females in Billy gang? No, no, no, no. You ain't going to win. I mean, yeah. Gang, it's an exclusive, y'all can't have no woman in it. It's not, we had, we had some, we had, we've had girls, we had Puff was rocking with us. Come take a puff. She hard, she hard. She not in it no more. She still, she still, she still family. Yeah, she still family. Do you? For sure. So, top three artists of all time did or live. Any genre? Any genre. Top three. Number one. I'm going with, I don't know necessarily the order. Kanye, as my dude, I don't know necessarily the order. No, I'm for sure. I'm saying, I'm gonna say Kanye. But I don't know for sure. I don't know the order of these three. Okay. But I'm, I'm Kanye, a jigger and Drake. Kanye, a jigger and Drake. I was going to ask you why you didn't go to Rock Nation. Did they come at you with a deal? That's what I listened to. No, I ain't talked to Rock Nation. That would have been dope. They came, you would have said, okay. No, it's not real. No, not necessarily. You know, he knows. He ain't got it. I mean, that's why I got to own my stuff. That's my thing. That's going to be hard with them. That's your main thing. Yeah, I got to own my stuff. So I like, you know, I like the way you're doing things, man. Like I said, from the jump, I wanted to interview you back in May. And I was talking, I've been talking about it because I love the way that you made your moves. A lot of people didn't. No, I'm sure. I'm gonna get a lot of criticism for this, right? For saying I really did, because I want to see the city together. And I don't know how we get there. But I do know there's going to have to be some. Small steps like that. Exactly. It's going to be some stuff over the top that you wouldn't ever expect to see this person working with that person. Right? For sure. For sure. You got to just make it happen. And so I love the fact that you did it. You know what? Number seven hit my line. Oh, it's like that. That'll be a dope. I think y'all do some dope music together. For sure. For sure we will. Like I said, I think that, again, people have lost their lives, man. And so that makes things a little bit more tougher. But it's still not something that we can't bridge the gap on, right? No, for sure. I know you're the one that can help bridge that gap. I know that for a fact. Yeah, for sure. For sure. But OK, just on your homeboy that passed away just a little bit, what did he mean to the team? And just kind of explain who he was. Give us a spiel. Freddie B, he was the glue for sure. He was the one that he was the general. He was the first one to fight when it's time to fight for a show every time. And it's a real solid guy. That's the best part. That's kind of how stuff ended, basically, you know. But he was the glue to the team. He was everybody's. He was my best friend. But then what I say is, everybody probably felt that way about Freddie. Freddie was the glue. He's probably the closest to just about all of us. Like he's close to the, you know. Space talked about him on the show when he came. You know, you've seen that show. He was hurt. That was real close to the time. And it was just something that he kept racking his brain about. So he went into that. And I felt bad because I was like, man. That's for sure one of the toughest losses. And you did a song. I've ever had in my life. Yo, yo. What was that song again? Because you and Space stand by each other. Yeah, no breaks. I seen y'all. He was right there by your side. Man, I felt that because I lost my best friend. So I understand, like, when you lose somebody, it's tough, man, you know. And it's like, both of y'all, like I understand where rain coming from when it comes down to Mo and his relationship. You know what I mean? Because it's the exact same thing that's going on with you. It's crazy how that happens. But you know, I think that you can be a little radical about it, or you can try to learn to grow and do things to be successful for the guys that were in your life. You know what I mean? For sure. So what are you going to do to try to carry on his legacy? Man, you know, just we just got to keep pushing and make him proud. That's basically what we're going to do. Yeah, if you could go back and change something and all the stuff that you've been through, this problem winding it down, what would you change? If you could go back to when you were first starting out, before you even picked mode three on the song, whatever, what would you change? I don't know if I'd change anything. You still would have picked mode three. You would still did a blue face. Yeah. And, you know, that's the way it would have rounded out. Yeah. Probably would have did everything exactly the same, for sure. How can people get a hold to you? Like, if they're looking for you, I know everybody probably know, but just say it anyway. Maybe he tired of people looking for you. Follow me. They're looking. They're looking. High and low. They're looking. But, you know, follow me on the ground. OG, Bobby Billions. Follow me everywhere. OG, Bobby Billions. And, you know, if you need to do some business, hit up my manager, EJ Real Talks. Oh, really? You know, yeah. Ain't nobody ever looked at you and be like, OG, you ain't even that old to be calling no OG. Yeah, they feel that whiteboard, man. My little niggas got little niggas, man. Triple OG. Triple OG, man. I just, I mean, your name hold weight. Yeah. Yeah, like, you got to stand behind that. Yeah, it's heavy. Yeah, it's real heavy. Like, the OG, Bobby Billions, I heard you said you got them from OG, Bobby Johnson. Yeah. And I get it. Well, South Central. Yeah. So, I get it. I understand it, man. So, when you come to Dallas, you got to come see me, man, in my studio, at my spot. For sure. For sure. You got to stop through. I know you'll be traveling a lot. I probably want to get to see you unless I find you. No, no, no, I'm going to have to pop up on you. Yeah, yeah, man. I had to get out here and make this one, man. I thank you so much, man, for coming on the show, man, and blessing our game. And being a stand-up dude, man, like, pulling up, man, like you did, man. You ain't come with a million people. You a real one, man. Yeah, no, no. I'm popping up, man. Man, that showed your heart. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like I said, you really, people really don't know how me and space are linked and how all this stuff didn't transpire with me and Doug and all that. And it's just a good spot in my heart for you, because in my heart, I mean, the gangster part, really today, I see the gangster part a little bit. Because your boy, you know, Ryan said, he makes songs like, what do you say? Why you die on me? Niggas die every day. I don't know what song is that that you said that on. Then you said another one. You said another one, the way you said outside, you know, even Moses had to kill one, he said. So are you in that gangster style, lifestyle, or are you just a regular laid-back cat? I'm a regular laid-back cat, you know, keep me out of that. Wait, when it get gangster, get gangster. Yeah, you know, you're not looking for. You're gonna keep some people around you. Yeah, we've been there for a show a few times, been around there a block. Yeah, you from Oak Cliff, so. Yeah, for sure. That says it all. That don't say it all, because that don't mean that everybody in Oak Cliff is like that. No, no, Oak Cliff got some stummed down bollocks over there, man. No, that's where all the stuff is at. I'm not saying it done, but you can't tell me that everybody in Oak Cliff roll like that. Everybody roll. Whatever, whatever. Hey, man, thank you, man. Say, hey, man, we love you, bro. For sure, lay out to me. And like I said, man, anything that we can do, if you pressing something out or pushing something out, if you tell me, I got this new artist, I'm pushing him, you call me, it's a done deal, bro. For sure, for sure. And I'm gonna be waiting on that song from you in seven. You know what I'm saying? Show them. Number seven, man. Yo, yo, yo. I just, I like messing with you, man, because you're a dope dude, man. Check it, man, hey, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And don't forget to subscribe, hit that button. Check it, man. We out.