 The best kind of doors are the doors you have to explain. Welcome, welcome to Unhinge with the DoorDork. Today, we do have a very special guest, Alex Bouchel with LearnGlazing.com. Yep. You said it was gonna be a lighter movement. It's got pretty intense. Yeah, well, let's jump on the next one. Let's next one probably a little bit lighter. Are you ready? Oh, that's fun. That's fantastic. All right, it took me a second to realize this was two pictures. Two different doors. But surprisingly, the same company is servicing them. I honestly don't think that company did these installs. These feel very homemade fixes. Oh, absolutely. This is all definitely added post. I mean, you can even see that they didn't even use all of the screws on that little... Yeah, they like ran out of nuts and bolts or rivets, I guess. Yeah, but then like the left one and the bottom right one don't even have one. And they're like, that'll hold it. But also like this one in particular, what do you notice about it? Well, okay, so it is a pole. So I'm seeing that this is the exterior and I'm wondering why you would lock the exterior of this thing. So if somebody's trying to get out of there and you can lock them into the 7-Eleven, is that what I'm seeing? I don't know, I'm assuming it's gas station or something like that, but I don't understand why you would slide lock the outside. Yeah, that's like, I really can't figure that out. And it doesn't look like, because sometimes those sliding bolts have like a deadbolt or function to lock it into the lock position so I could see something happening, but I don't see any place where they would do something like that. That could be pretty concerning. Like your customers could lock other people in to the store from the outside or if you're holding up this place, like you could have your buddy outside, like keeping people inside so they couldn't escape. I don't know, there's a lot of liability that went right into that latch and I'm still confused about why they would add that kind of latch. Well, you got the keyed one right underneath too, right? So I just, I don't even understand what that's doing. Do you think there's some sort of a misalignment? And so they're using that to correct the alignment for when they're locking it. Well, to like prop the door either lower or higher. I mean, it looks aligned, but like that's the only thing I could come up with. It's pretty tight, but yeah. It's tight on the bottom and not as much on the top over closes or like doesn't go all the way far enough. And you have to like push on the door to slide that just to get the key to engage. I like that holds it in a little bit more. Yeah. And then you can lock it. It's the only thing I could come up with that is somewhat feasible as to why you would do this. Well, in that case, it's perfectly fine. I didn't say reasonable. I said feasible. It's one of those hold my beers. I got you situations, right? But like with this one, this one doesn't even have a no key. Yeah, that's perfect. No key. But I wonder if it does have a deadbolt on the inside. Spoiler alert. The key is on the other side. Oh, no. So are we still inside the store or are we because it's a pool with your clear? This is the exterior. Yeah. Where are these in relation to each other? Are they completely different facilities? Or is this like on this face and the other ones on this face? I know it's got to be the same place. I think it's on one side of the door and the other side of the door, like on the building. So like this is like there's the main entrance, which I feel like a side door. But again, someone could like anyone that has a padlock on. I'm like, oh, you're close today. That right there looks super sturdy anti crowbar. That's fantastic. These are these are funny. I have not seen these images either. Oh, yeah. The instructions that people don't know. What am I supposed to do with this door? And now I'm just supposed to pee you this door. Poop, poop, poop. So the question is, you know, OK, so if the pole sign came first, why didn't these guys just move that up a little bit or down? Why do they have to be right in the middle of that sticker? They wanted it right there. I don't know. Seems like the place to be. Maybe that's where they needed for it to engage the leafs together or the door to align. Did you take this? No, no. No, I love the fact that you can see the what look like possibly even steel toe boots and some rough jeans that look like it's somebody in industry recognizing the problems here in the reflection. Yes, for sure. Someone that knew better took these photos. What if that hasp is one of those turn hasps? And that's all they're doing is secure. You know, sometimes you put the hasp in and then the part that the padlock goes in turns. So it's perpendicular to the thing. And they're like, good enough. We'll do that. We'll just turn it closed. Now hold it back. There's a little hinge right there. I would love to see how many screws are on this thing, too, on the backside. Well, the aluminum frame, too, looks misaligned, like where the hasp is. There's some little screens going on there. It's like two steps. But if you look down, it looks like it's the seams together. Well, it's definitely obviously two pieces, right? But I'm just not really showing it out there. I'm going to go a lot higher on my rating on this thing, for sure. I don't feel like putting these type of locks on the outside makes sense. And then having the E1 on the inside, obviously there's no access from the outside, right? So if somebody forgets to unlock that one from the inside, too, now you've got to worry about that being egress. Like there's a lot of weird stuff going on here. Yeah, I mean, this being a gas station, they're very limited on emergency egress doors. So that's big no-no on a means of egress. And you have to have two, right? No matter what, there has to be two. So it depends on the occupancy. But most of them, yes. In a retail environment, you have to have a minimum of two. So this is the same building. Imagine that somebody forgot the one, and somebody accidentally latched the other one, or any combination of those. Now you're down to one. Yeah, I'm hoping that they have a back emergency door because this could lead to some really scary situations really quickly. If someone with nefarious intent came in and understood or planned out something, you could really create a bad situation because people couldn't get out. Would you think that maybe this is more so for visual appearance to deter any sort of crime? Like people don't understand the other types of hardware like that you guys have and so on. So when they see these type of locks that they recognize, they might be like, oh man, it's closed. We're not going to get through that. They're like, oh, it's got two locks on it that I can't do that. I mean, the slider one probably not as much, but the other one is pretty typical for small retailers where they pull down that little gate or something. It's just a padlock of some sort. Yeah, no, I get it. It's just another level of deterrent, right? Like if someone wanted to break into this store, they would find a way to do it. It's just like, how much more difficult do you want to make it? And it looks like the shop owner or someone, just their janitor, facilities guy, was like, I want to make it a little bit harder for them to get in. Just a little bit, just a little bit harder, but not understanding how the hardware works. I'm still really confused about this guy. I, why? Tell me why. Just being on the outside is so strange. Like putting those on bathrooms on the outside, moving forward in like public restrooms, you know? You live here now. All right, any last comments? No, I mean, it's almost hard to even talk about this. It's just so strange and ridiculous at the same time where you're just kind of like sit back and on. That's crazy. I'm going to go much higher. I'm going to be prior like in a eight to nine range here. The doors are probably still functional as long as this little add-on isn't engaged. What's concerning, and I might have already said this, like anyone can engage that add-on. You could be exiting this door not like the people in there and just think it's a hilarious prank to just throw both of those up. And they don't even need a lock for this one, just like a pen. screwdriver. Yeah, like screwdriver or a wrench or something, whatever could squeeze into that hole. And that looks pretty tight too. So it could just out of friction, almost hold itself there for a little bit too. Yeah. Okay. Is that you're going to go with that eight or nine, Alex? Yeah. It's your final answer. If you, I'm going to stay somewhere between eight and nine. I'll go 8.5 just because I want to keep it in the middle, but it's definitely chaotic on the sense that like anybody can do it, right? There's no control and it's dangerous. Yeah, I'm with you. I think whoever installed this needs a brain checkup of some sort, because they're like, what's going through their mind? Also the opportunity, it's not that bad at surface level, but if someone took it to the next level, it could be very bad. So I'm with you. I'm eight or nine as well. Yeah, I'm in the same boat. As you like to say, Benji, nobody should have done this, but normal operation is probably fine, but it has the potential to be a catastrophic situation. Usually in my classes when I used to teach in college, I would always ask my students what they would do if they could find a time machine. A lot of times people want to go back in time and see certain things, either be invented or created or like a group of people went out there and tried some berries and they found out which ones were not poisonous by seeing only a portion of the group come back, right? Like these five are great. Don't try any of those and how they found out. But often I also wonder like, I would just love to be there while people are having these conversations and solutions, almost just like a fly on the wall, like just watch this develop from idea to installation and what was said just to really see what people are thinking that that's what I would use a time machine for. Anthropologist, right there. That's right. Alex, it was great having you on the show. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for your time and your insight. Your glazing perspective added some unique insight to these unique doorfills. Join us for the next episode of Unhinged. 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