 We were discussing linking innovation platforms with action to improve rainwater management. We had a set of four questions. The first one was who should facilitate such platforms? What would be the entry points? Whether to have the innovation platforms around the market areas like markets or NRM? Where will the resources come from? And how to deal with the power relations that exist in such platforms? In terms of facilitation of platforms, we had a discussion around how to ensure that the platforms are sustainable and therefore they need to have logo champions within the market that facilitate these platforms. But also to try and build on existing activities, on existing processes that are going on at water level especially when we think about what would be the incentives for people to want to facilitate the innovation platforms. The other issue we discussed around that question was the fact whether it's other stakeholders that are joining our agenda or we can actually join the agenda of the water and therefore the issue will be if rainwater management is already happening at water level would our inputs then be changing the processes around how this is done? In which case we are joining the water as agenda or the Department of Agriculture's agenda and trying to influence how that is done? In which case the facilitation is on the owners of the water. There are many issues around capacities and how this will play up with the power relations between the water line administration and farmers etc. On an entry point, the main discussion was around how to combine short term gains for farmers with the more longer term activities around improving the landscape and the ecosystem and so on. And how we use a process for identifying key entry points that sort of takes advantage of these two. We used an example of what Josie talked about a site where one of the major issues is marketing of onions. How do you use market as an entry point and then move from market to ensuring productivity and then productivity directly links into how you manage the water that is used for onions. In terms of resources, we need to tap into existing resources but recognizing that if the agenda is the agenda that is brought in to buyers and stakeholders that the project probably would need to put in the initial resources but based on how engaged people are on the agenda to what extent it's meeting their needs and priorities that we might start seeing more investment into the innovation platforms from their actors. Power relations, we talked about do we want to start with innovation platforms? Do we want to start with a community engagement that then leads into the innovation platforms? So the advantage of starting with a community engagement is that when you have farmers representing other farmers in the innovation platforms that they actually do have a community agenda and it's not their individual agendas but also how to use existing networks, user groups, cooperatives in order to have that representation. But the fact that in order to overcome these power relations there would need to be a lot of capacity for farmers as well to be able to engage in the IP process. Thank you.