 Obviously, when we're talking about prolific or tremendous artists once in a generation kind of artists of which you can't deny that Woody Allen isn't At a certain point I just have enough to get over that talent and make a snap judgment. Yeah I would argue I'm not arguing you're not making a snap judgment though And I guess what I would say is I don't disagree with anything you said, but we're we're now using that all the time We're just making snap judgments is is is the norm not the exception sure sure Well, I I do think that we are at We will find out we will all wait with baited breath as to know whether or not this Movement that we are currently a part of culturally is an overcorrection Mm-hmm or a a just a tremor for harder correction Yeah, we will see we'll see I you know I've been trying to walk that line with Vero Because Vero's founder is the son of someone who was in charge of a company that did awful stuff Yeah, and also Vero has Russian developers the Russian developers is the first thing I'm like hold on just putting Russian in front of something doesn't make it bad man I'll tell you what we know who else is a Russian developer Sergei Brin. You want to know what yeah I got we have a new sticker pack coming out on stickers or DIF tomorrow The best art was drawn by a Russian and it was me with a rush so so Russian developers could mean Yeah, it could be fine could be not that doesn't mean anything being the son of the executive who did the horrible thing Could make you complicit you could have absolutely known everything and that's that's bad or it could be He gave his son a title so he could pay him a salary and he wasn't involved at all That's also normal. We don't know and we don't know is not is become like well if you're saying we don't know You're defending and like no, we don't know means we don't know It means not for not against means holding out for more information That is that is a position that has disappeared and then I'm I'm trying to reclaim it. Oh I did not notice. Oh, it's you are that it's just me and you let's rock. Yeah, Sarah's out sick lost her voice Well get well soon Sarah Lane. Yeah, she will I'm sure All right, shall we yes From here The Daily Tech news show is powered by its listeners not outside organizations if you get value from the show Consider giving a little back as little as a dollar a month keeps great tech news and analysis coming your way Commercial free find out more at Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday March 1st 2018 from DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt from Oakland, California. I'm Justin Robert Yeah, and sadly Sarah Lane lost her voice She's she is out today quietly at home Hope resting her voice but our producer Roger Chang is here as well. I am here. Sorry about the February See I didn't have to say anything if you hadn't said anything no one would have known I knew And no one still knows like you've said some people like what do you mean? Sorry about the February? Is he sorry for the entire month? In a way. Yes, I am Apologizing that it didn't have enough days February. It just always comes up short. It does it does especially every four years Yeah, a bit your problem every four years. It makes it a little farther Yeah, not quite. No, it's at February of the dock. It's fine now. Let's start with a few tech things. You should know Software engineer Loretta Lee is suing Google for sexual harassment discrimination retaliation and wrongful termination Lee worked at Google for seven years She joins a now pattern of these sorts of lawsuits James Daymore Of course sued Google back in January for firing him alleging the company routinely discriminated against conservative white men Tim Chevalier has sued Google this month earlier for discrimination harassment and wrongful termination After he was fired for what he says was calling out racism and sexism on internal message boards Hey, look This is a very very pressing problem here in Silicon Valley And I believe that the lawsuits will continue to come as long as the pockets are deep The Wall Street Journal reports at the next phase of the Nintendo switch will not focus on updated hardware modeling But instead will focus on per hips up per hips up per hipzels. I have referrals referral I always trip on that. I don't why that use the switches USB C port specifically Nintendo will focus on peripherals To keep sales high in the second year such as the upcoming Nintendo labo Feels obvious to me like yeah riff. I guess it's styles. Yeah, you wanna know what they know another one That always gets me is is kiosk or koysk It's kiosk. I know but I always want to say say koysk Plenty of you are gonna say I told you so about this one But trying it is how you find things out for sure. Okay, so don't be too hard on Facebook However, Facebook has found out for sure that no people don't want their news posts in a separate feed From their friends posts called explore Facebook has now ended that experiment which it was doing in six countries where it'd been testing Separating out publisher content into the Explorer tab not doing that. It's not gonna do it bad idea Facebook says didn't work So a riot with the publishing industry. Yeah, publishers are like Let's talk a little more about the decline of cell phones oh Tom the Wall Street Journal reports Bay Street Research estimates the upgrade cycle for phones has climbed From 23 months in 2014 to 31 months and is likely to stretch to 33 months by next year Counterpoint technology market research says refurbished phones is the fastest growing sector of the market Accounting for about one in ten devices sold many people seem to be buying top-end flagship phones Used a couple years after the release rather than buying them new the other comparing it to the used car market now like most people you know a lot of people buy new cars but a lot of people I'll buy them a couple years old because they're cheaper and like new cars there's only So often that a new technology comes in and radically changes things and you could probably say with cars Maybe like parking assist or something like that as it's trickled down to more mid-tier car models Could be could be that and in phones There's only so many times that you can say the real star is the camera or the Before you're like what my phone looks good and I take good pictures almost no bezels Microsoft launched Soundscape an iOS app that helps blind and visually impaired users So so Keynes and dogs are often used to help with obstacle avoidance Soundscape helps with things beyond obstacles Like what street you're on or what stores or restaurants are nearby the app has three modes locate tells you where you are You're at the intersection of X and Y street Around me calls out four points of interest near you like what's around me? I'll be like oh, there's a bakery over there and your favorite dress shops across the street And ahead of me gives the name of five landmarks in front of you You know maybe maybe churches or other stores or things like that users can also set beacons that help them locate particular places If you say like hey, where's the cupcake shop it'll start Clicking and beeping in a way that helps you orient yourself and and know when you're getting closer to that and then calls it out So this is great It's it's the idea that I'm not just trying to get from point a to point b without running into things or walking out in Front of a car that's important But that's what Keynes and dogs do this is saying hey wouldn't you like to know when you're near the shop you like or what? Restaurants are nearby. That's something that we take for granted if you can see it Not only is this one of those great makes your heart Swell tech done good kinds of stories. It also Brings us one step closer to something that I desperately have wanted for the past 10 years and audio Only internet we have all the tools there and yes I'm very excited that the visually impaired community can have a better sense of where they might be But man what I love some of these kind of features as well Specifically in cities where I don't know a lot of places and just to get me from point a to point b without me Having to dig out my phone for everything Listen, I'm sure the people who need accessibility options Are not gonna begrudge you turning this news to be about you Look, I'm saying it's great. It's great. It's great. And it's it's also something that of wider set could use They're like we get plenty of accessibility stories and options Justin. No problem. No, I'm not again I'd lead I'd lead with it's fantastic, but also I can't sure I can't be alone with The dream and hope for an audio only internet Uh, yeah and on it all seriousness It's the kinds of things that can help a lot of people in a lot of different situations mostly accessibility. This is huge Uh, you know, you've got to watch the video that Microsoft and guide dogs actually and lighthouse all collaborated on showing what it's like because if you are sighted You will suddenly at least for me make you realize. Oh, right. They can't just look at the street and go Okay, I'm by the post office now now. I'm by the haircutting place like that that information just doesn't happen unless someone tells it to you And that's what this app does pretty cool Uber launched uber health to offer ride hailing platform A ride hailing platform to health care providers So clinics hospitals rehab centers and the like can assign rides to patients Even if the patient doesn't have the uber app or even a smartphone It's not unlike uber central which focuses on business customers who want to provide rides for their clients uber health Uh, general manager chris weber says that around 3.6 million americans miss medical appointments due to a lack of transportation Yeah, uh, this this is a problem that definitely people have tried to solve in lots of way There's you know senior buses and and and and things you can call on demand And the idea that when you make your appointment the doctor could say great a car will come for you And that's not like a crazy expensive option. It's uber priced seems pretty compelling certainly so and It shows you further what it means Now that ride sharing has kind of commoditized private transport Uh, there's just a like the this kind of thing like you said would usually be a white glove Treatment option, but when you're you know any kind of health care provider and you say oh really it's another $6 $7 $10 maybe like yeah, cool. Let's do it. Although the question is uh, can't everybody afford this? Is it insurance covered? You know that sort of thing, uh, Well, the the the information on this is uber's not going to take a cut Uh, it they just need to the health care provider just needs to pay for the ride uh, and You know again if we're looking at maybe on the upper end $25 to make sure that somebody gets there. Who knows? Hmm Richard apia acoto is an ict teacher at a rural school in central gana ict is internet communications technology Uh ict is also one of the subjects on a national exam That 14 and 15 year old students in the country have to pass now If you're in the capital ocra, you got computers. You can study on a koto's classroom does not so He draws concepts on the blackboard. He posted a photo of himself sketching out the features of a word processing window Uh word processing windows from microsoft word Under his nickname orura quaduo hattish comedian teacher quaduo Reposted the picture to his 140 000 facebook fans and it took off from there now microsoft africa said It will give a koto a device from one of our partners and access to our mce program and free professional development resources at education dot microsoft.com Uh A koto says he has a laptop But because the test is desktop specific He doesn't want to use his laptop because it doesn't work to the standards of the test He needs a device that will work to the standards of the test. So it sounds like microsoft will give him that All right, um, just go ahead and pull out of your pocket. Mm-hmm the check that you got from redmond Where we're just we're just doing we're just doing microsoft pr now we're Microsoft is just the greatest company on earth, huh? Look if there's anything about this story It's that microsoft africa's response was we'll give you one device. That's a fair point Like really how about outfit the whole classroom, please How about you go ahead and feel off more than one laptop that everybody could take their turns on right? Yeah It and the other the other thing I I I like about this story is It is rural gana. It's a story about rural areas And not having having the equipment. This isn't you know poor africa granted africa countries often have problems like this But but this is this is showing like hey in gana. You've got a disparity It's gana isn't just all the same. You've got you've got students in ochre that that definitely have access I'm sure there's some there that don't do But it's much much different out in the countryside And I I think this is probably more common than you think even outside of gana where people have to teach computer skills On a whiteboard or a blackboard. Oh, I mean, it's the digital divide and we've been talking about it since the 90s AT&T sprint T-Mobile and Verizon have formed the mobile authentication task force the group is focused On creating a new mobile authentication standard that might be ready by the end of the year The new standard could replace two-factor authentication for mobile apps with the system based on cryptographically verified data network verified information IP address along with some machine learning and analytics To understand your habits Yeah Okay, I love the idea of making two-factor authentication Better I was going to say these are two of your favorite things. You love consortiums You love uh open source and you love two-factor security. Do I love consortiums? Is that all you love it? You love it and then you always want more people to join the consortiums I like standards and consortiums often like open source standards. Yeah, yeah I could say I don't like consortiums for consortium's sake, but they often lead to open standards. They often lead. Yes. I should I should clarify Yes, uh consortiums for the common good. I got a problem with this one though because it's just the carriers and it's just mobile This doesn't fix two-factor authentication if it only works on mobile now Granted it works across platforms because all of these different carriers are part of this right so it's not going to only work on Verizon, but it's only going to work on mobile and What if I'm on the web on mobile, right? Oh wait, I have to go into the app to make this work Or if I'm on my laptop or desktop. Oh, I now I have to use the old two-factor authentication. Which point The least convenient and secure option for anything is the the place where the vulnerabilities can happen Can I also pile on a little bit on this consortium? Yeah, sure I'm gonna love you some more consortium criticism. Uh-huh. I think a good consortium here. You need multiple different interests that have different ways of making money Because then the fact that they're binding together for a common good or an open standard Means they're really just trying to work on that and I am in no way putting on my tinfoil hat and suggesting that these carriers You know that that these carriers binding together to make better securities anything other than what they are saying it is however I need some people that would also Be theoretically up against the carrier if a law enforcement agency came and said hey, we need this kind of data Like I just want I want more people involved in something as important as the future of Mobile security if it's even just that let alone all two-factor authentications. Yeah, great. I didn't see the word open Related to this anywhere. Yeah and There's a lot of a lot of vagary around it. We don't get get a lot of details from from what we've seen so far about how this actually works Now they say it's cryptographically verified. That's awesome. Let's make it verifiable that that's stronger photography and all of that So there are a lot of questions around this I can't I can't say that I disagree with the impulse though the impulse is right Which is let's create a standard that makes two-factor easier because if you make it easier more people adopt it Sure sure and look Authy is a really good step in that direction I think the google authenticators is is a great tool if you do not if you were listening to this and you don't have Those on your phones. Please do them immediately and upgrade any service that offers two-factor to do it You know listen one day the life that is lost could be your own At least the data. Yeah Authy authenticate or whatever and if you've done it But you haven't done it in a while. I bet some of your services have added two-factor Recently and you may not have realized it. So it's always always good to go back and check to Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes You can subscribe to daily tech headlines our sister show It is available on the amazon echo as a flash briefing also available on google home in the anchor app And as a podcast at dailytech headlines.com So twitter said in a statement today It's looking for outside experts to measure the health of the company which immediately sent my mind towards acquisition Strategic resources. That's a lot of times when people do this what they mean Maybe they do still mean that but They're also seeking proposals to determine exactly how the company is fostering healthy debate conversations and critical thinking Versus quote abuse spam and manipulation CEO jack dorsi said in a series of tweets We aren't proud of how people have taken advantage of our service or our inability to address it fast enough so Justin robber young What do you think this public? castigation means well I Think that uh You can almost time this seasonally right it feels like about four times a year that at jack and Talked about the grand ideals of twitter and how these things that you've been asking for will definitely Be efforted at the fastest possible opportunity However, this one kind of caught my eye because as everybody knows Who's listening to the show for a little bit? I also cover politics for my political my political podcast And one of the things that has come up a lot is the idea of DC coming to regulate big tech and part of it is economics part of it is Hey, you know a tnt got broken up into the baby bells because they just had too met too much Of the market share and you look at companies like amazon, but some of it is also about Speech and specifically as it relates to The 2016 election and future elections beginning probably most notably with these off-year elections that are coming up in the fall And then of course 2020 What I read this With that light in mind as is look Here are steps. We are taking here are other people you can ask about the steps We are taking to try to make efforts to create a better Healthier environment for twitter. This calms two Areas down theoretically want number one the Twitter is a toxic wasteland crowd Uh, and the other the twitter is easily manipulated to shift opinion and sure If it's something that justin beaver's new haircut is stupid It's not the end of the world But if it's the leader of the free world being elected because of manipulation On twitter then maybe the consequence is greater and the black Yeah The consequences definitely could be greater the company is accepting proposals for the project until april 13th So this doesn't seem to be some kind of strategic acquisition issue Uh, it seems to be that twitter Really wants the public to participate really wants the public to to join in and provide solutions. So I I don't think they're looking for financial companies or even consultants They're looking for anybody And at least they want to have the appearance of casting a wide net so they can bring a lot of different ideas in And try to help them the company says it plans to announce the first projects in july So they at least have a deadline and and they at least have some kind of short term Ability to access this whoa, I can hear myself. Okay Justin you dropped out there for a little bit, but uh, you're back now Yes, and and basically all I was saying was it is it is not A we need consultants or we need financial companies. It is very much a we need anybody to throw us an idea We've got a deadline Uh, yeah, it is that we need anybody and it's that Look, I don't think that you can take away from this that it is a public Thing, right? This is not just somebody going to rehab quietly. This is somebody making sure that uh, uh, they announce at christmas time that you can Come see me uh on the first day of february now that I go to this treatment center Uh, you know, they need to make a show of this Because of how much people have thought that they have drug their feeds and not done things the way that they should I I'm gonna jump a little bit because If I were to sit here and think about how do you solve twitter? I think there are plenty of things that are already being discussed that could have an effect Uh, and of course, I'm I'm known for saying let's try to measure the effect. Let's test things Let's actually look and see if they're working not just do things that make a good headline But I do think that uh What one of the things that could be done is educate people how to use twitter better I think a lot of people get upset with twitter or facebook This applies to facebook and instagram and everything because they don't take enough control of what they see You have complete control of everything you see on twitter facebook and instagram, right? You can block people. You can unfollow people. You can create lists You can block words now on twitter But people don't use these tools and and I think even just the simple act of following or unfollowing makes a tremendous difference And I say this not to point fingers I say this because during the presidential election I was getting very stressed out as everybody was about some of the things I was seeing in my timeline And suddenly I realized well, wait a minute. Most of these things are being retweeted By this one person. So I unfollowed that person Suddenly I was like, huh, it's so much better I also curate that now. I more actively say oh wait a minute. I'm not going to think of unfollowing as an insult I'm going to think of unfollowing as oh, that's something I don't need to see And I don't have a lot of the problems that I hear other people have now That may be because I'm insane or Or jaded But I do think that it's an element of the strategy that needs to be emphasized which is hey There's things you can do too. Don't expect to twitter to solve everything Yes, and if the tools are not being utilized By a enough of your user base that you consistently have these problems Are they effective enough tools? Are there are there other steps that the platform itself can take? Absolutely. I I I agree with you but even if This is just a jack and twitter going out and saying hey look We want people to measure the health of our conversations and these organizations come back and say you want to know what? Congratulations. We've done some algorithmic tweaking Uh, but otherwise here here's our our 15 page study about how these conversations are not as bad as you might think Then twitter will take that they literally just need to be shown They need to be shown going to the gym Yeah, no, and that that's actually one of my fears is that This ends up being more of an exercise in in public demonstration than in Seriously trying to fix things because I think there's some interesting things around machine learning That could prompt you like hey, you seem to be getting stressed about these particular posts Would you like to mute them temporarily to see if that makes a difference? Like kind of help people learn how to manage this stuff You seem to be responding in all caps to this Over and over again Would you like me to mute them for you temporarily and see if that helps you come down? All right, let's check the mailbag Got a great email today from alan It says I don't know if you'll want to talk about this on the show. Well, guess what I do But it blew my mind when I saw this today and I wanted to share it with you Go to the app store and download an app called living wine label now granted These are not the only folks doing this but this is the one alan pointed out to me So it's the first one i've used apparently there's a bunch of these Run the app and point it at the picture of a wine bottle he sent along Now the coolest part about this email was the picture of the wine bottle Was of a type of wine that I had in my Why I have two bottles of wine we had two bottles of wine out one of them was these Uh, and so I'm like, why don't I have to point it at the picture? I'm going to point it to the actual bottle Uh, so you point it at the bottle and it makes the picture on the bottle of wine Come alive in augmented reality and tell you a little story Now I tried it out on facebook live And it took it took some fiddling to get it to actually work Probably would have been easier if I hadn't been trying to film it while I was doing it But uh, once you got it to work though, it actually, you know, it did have a little story and stuff It was kind of nifty. I guess I don't know so they're they're working with the the Label people are they doing all this themselves? Yeah, so they have partners. There were several different bottles of wine I didn't do enough research to find out if all those bottles are part of the same winery, you know Sometimes there's multiple labels out of one winery, of course Chateau st. Jean was on there 19 crimes was the one that I had And there was there was a walking dead wine. I didn't even know there was a walking dead wine So those were all the ones that you could point the labels at Obviously, they had either worked with that winery or worked with multiple wineries to say we'll recognize your label and be able to prompt something I'll tell you what seems like it seems like a money-making opportunity Yeah, uh I I don't know what the effect is though. I mean, I agree with alan It was super cool when it actually worked to be like, oh look my wine bottle's talking to me And I'm not haven't even had any yet Yeah, it also kind of screams like buy me Hey, gigantic winery or a beverage company Why wouldn't it be great if you'd got our team and all of our smart people on your team? You know, I suppose that's the gamble is I'll buy one of these bottles to try it out And then maybe I'll like the wine and start buying it regularly is I already had this bottle So I think I think the app is an acquisition. I think that that this makes a lot more sense as an imbeb purchase where they can do a super bowl ad about like Download the app and plant it at your bud. Why are sure. Yeah. Yeah tumor do a back flip I don't know if you're old enough, but back in my day when I was a kid to go to the zoo They would have these little audio boxes To to listen to the various aspects of the animals exhibits, but you had to buy a key To listen to it. You had to buy like a special key I'm wondering if they could integrate that in a way like hey if you go with our premium brands you get all this additional Cool stuff that goes with it, which would be kind of cool Roger you're younger than me Yes, but I do I do I do not have the keys. Did you have the keys? I remember the st. Louis who had a push button. You did not have a key. You just push the button and it would talk Then it would tell you things Well, yeah, I I think this is kind of cool and it's definitely in advance on what you were talking about Roger Yeah, yeah, I mean look, I think that there's a tremendous amount that you can do with stuff like this And and I have not seen the demos, but uh, if the demos are cool and worth it and Uh, you get something out of it I think that wine education is something that is still in this day and age with nothing but information Sorrely lacking like there's a great wine shop that is around the corner from us And I always love going there because I always learned something Uh, and then the next time I walk into that wine shop I have no idea what none of these things mean and I just picked a pretty label Now granted, uh, like I said, I was filming this when I did it But it took me uh, it was fiddly to get to work and then once at work It was just the guy on the label telling me stories about being an ancient irishman Uh, or something. I it didn't tell me anything about the wine It was it was just totally for the effect of like oh wow the label came alive. Yeah. Oh Hey, thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com and at facebook.com Slash groups slash daily tech news show Uh, sarah lane will be back tomorrow. We hope uh, so send her your well wishes in the meantime. Thank you. Justin. Robert young Uh, listen, tom. It is always a pleasure being here and I would like to thank all the listeners Uh, who purchased tickets to my live show tonight Tonight disco you might be listening to my dulcet tones on the way to the piano fight theater In san Francisco the politics politics presents sex scandal brackets Live show will be in a few hours here in the city by the bay, but Uh, you know, hopefully we will do another one because it is sold out And I want to thank any dts listeners. 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No, um The show A show without lane Thanks, thanks for getting that one out of the way stay out of your lane or stay twitter toxic or tomic. That's a 3t Uh threat there it is I'm gonna keep it switch up to those W scott is one is like changing soon. What's changing soon? I meant utc will change soon because we'll go on daylight saving time But utc stays the same Uh We'd be twitter right now the pew research center Uh is officially making drawing their lines in the sand when it comes to generational definitions starting today Pew research will define millennials as those born between 1981 and 1996 We will consider those born from 97 onward as a post Millennial generation a yet as yet undefined post millennial gen z Still seeking a name. Well, what happens when you run out of letters? Uh Tweeting for help. I like twitter toxic or tonic, but that might be too classic. No, I kind of like that one. What do you think? They're just Yeah, I'm down with that Let it be written or so So let it be typed So wait, then so gen x is still 69 to 80 then I would guess yeah, or right up to I thought it was more like six mid 60s, but People define these differently too. That's I mean, I guess you would be You know gen x is uh Whatever currently gen x. I'm like right in the middle All right. Yeah, there's that club sandwich. What year were you born? 74 see I was born in 1970 I Was born in an age when california started cracking down on car missions I don't know a world before I was born in an age when people started cracking down on the president lying about things Um, I've been reading about the 1956 Was it 56 senate election campaign of richard nixon in california Wait, he was vice president in 56, wasn't he? No, oh shoot. I guess it must have been 52. Oh gosh darn it. I gotta look it up Yeah, he was president. Yes. He was eisenhauer's. He was eisenhauer's bp Everyone liked dike they liked they liked nixon less Somehow but nixon could use chopsticks U.s. Senator to california in a campaign that not only minted one of his most famous lines where he called his uh opponent Uh pink right down to her underwear Uh in reference to her pink on communit. She's pink right down to her underwear I also earned him the ire Of A trick what's going on with your audio? Yeah, it's garbally I don't know I can All right, I want I want to hear more about Yeah, I almost said I want to hear more about pink underwear, but uh about nixon about nixon's but she literally wore pink under I mean, that's not a that's not a That's not an uncommon thing to wear pink underwear Probably not a bit of a gendered slur, though. Yeah Yeah, it's the woman was which which 50 was the 1950 that was the 1950 election. Yeah, okay, sevens Um Uh, he ran against helen joggin douglas Uh And uh, yeah, it was run uh with a lot of uh hard on communism Uh rhetoric that He was the underdog and he wanted to hear your let me just rephrase It was run with a lot of rhetoric that was hard on communism. Yes Oh really that was the first time Governor of california, I believe another republican who uh, who coined it tracheatic You know aren't any horrible in What if you did entire tech podcast with just the nixon? Um impersonation, I think it would get old pretty quick. I think you would yeah, it would get here's here's what I am doing I'm reading I'm doing research for this thing. I want to do about the 1960 election and uh, I'm reading a lot Uh, you're fading out again I'm glad that this didn't happen during the show Say it again They garbly or It's it's weird. It's it's like it's muting you It's like you have a compressor. Do you don't have an audio compressor? Do you? No, he doesn't uh It's uh One more time Um, yeah, I I don't I know it's I don't know what is happening. It's oh on my end Hmm. I think that the spirit of richard nixon doesn't want us talking about this Oh, I know No, do you follow richard nixon on twitter? I don't know there's a Excellent rich richard nixon account on twitter. Does he is it like talking about Things that are happening Is he like uh, he talks about current events as if he were richard nixon But also makes illusions to his era You know b.b. Robozo would have never allowed that to happen Nice. Yeah That was what I texted tom. I give tom a private news feed of my 1960 trivia Including about baby Robozo baby Which made me go look up. I don't know if you saw my tweet I went up and tried to find out if anyone was doing a baby Robozo twitter Sadly, no deep cut. I always knew that um I always knew that what's it called that uh Nixon had a south florida tie, but I didn't realize that it was him I didn't realize Robozo was from south florida either. I don't know why that didn't sink in It's interesting because in the wikipedia for Charles Robozo. It says baby means baby in spanish That was his nickname. Yeah, he was youngest son. And so he was the baby the baby face Yeah Bye-bye I said when I would read about Nixon, which I have done more than I would like to admit Uh, I used to pronounce it in my head. Bebe. I had no idea. Oh, you didn't know is baby. Yeah Um Yeah, what what I texted to tom was that they Nixon does not have a lot did not have a lot of friends He was not a very warm person with those around him But bebe was one of his closest and uh two notable things number one He first found out about the watergate uh break in while swimming in bebe's pool. Mm-hmm number two Their favorite thing to do together was sit in a room and not What did they do play mind games? They were both very Family It's crazy to think that Nixon was a Quaker Yeah, apparently a big Well folks, I think we're gonna head out of here, uh, but thank you for hanging out with us Yeah It's a great House And we'll see you tomorrow with uh Brian brushwood. What a hack