 Like Check it. Check it. Check it. It's a unique house. It's your boy E ceo and I'm here with the lovely official miss Jamaica What's going on, baby? Man check it man. Hey, man, we got a we got a nice We got a nice looking guest in here today. She looks good man. You know I'm saying we got we got it going on today I feel it real good man. I feel like a king sitting over in this chair today, man Check it man. Jones Monroe is in the house. What's up, baby? Hello? How are you? Hey, man? So king So you got it, right? You got it, right? You got it, right? You know I'm saying that long as you get it, right, right? So uh, john Monroe, man, you know when I started researching you I was looking for information I kept and and they wouldn't give me nothing else I got the black song, but let's let's get into it. I like to go back and uh try to figure out like who is johnsman row johnsman row is A soulful down south southern girl who You know is a black gangsta maryland Monroe at the end of the day like that's that's the best way Everybody describes me when they hear my music when they meet me and they they hear my message But let's talk about johnsman row before she was johnsman row Back in the day back in the day. So my name is christina. Okay. Check it man. You know So, um, my name is christina pogh and I am from east texas and how was it like growing up in tarot texas? Let's stop right there. That's not east texas. People call tarot texas east texas. Don't play don't play about that You know, I don't play about that. I know but that's just that's just not east texas, but it's not east texas, baby You live a little bit. You you're in the uh outskirts of dallas. You are you're basically uh in the rural area You know, you're not in east texas. I'm from east texas. You was so caught up in trying to I am from the cattle lake I am straight from right out of Six miles before you get to the horse the horse. No, no, no, no, it was wild hogs Did you handpick the quail? Yeah, well, you know, we we had to we had to eat what we kill Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? So all I'm all I'm saying is you're from you're from A rural area outside of dallas. Um, you and jamie fox. Yeah, I me and jamie fox. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I can educate you on where you're from. I You know, I know where you're from, you know But uh, don't don't do that because we work too hard to uh get our names established down in east texas I mean we we we fish too much To play around with the country we we hunted we we we killed too many chickens You know what I'm saying? The one thing we're not going to do is set a print act like y'all in the country when y'all in the city We can't get k104 97 9 the beat. We can't even get any phone our phone services out Everything you don't sit here and try to play me into well, I'm gonna get off my soapbox No, I definitely I definitely know that it is uh, it's a I love torel When I first came I met my wife in torel Oh, let me tell you something. That's how the store ended up there for 10 years I put that store down there because I met my wife down there And I was in that area working because I'm I work for I'm an engineer for a communications company And I met my wife down there and I felt like this is a good place And I often go down there and she don't know it, but I go look at where I met her at a lot of times Yeah, yeah Well, I mean just it's just something that that you do Not to say it ain't been no ups and downs. It's been almost 20 years, but the good days are with the bad days You know what I mean? So that's that's the whole game and I got my children to check it man Shout out to chibori malachi. What's up with it? But um, so let's get back to you. Jones Starting out, you know Being young being from torel What gave you the inspiration to feel like you couldn't make it out of torel? Oh my grandma My grandma all day long my uh my grandma fanny Okay, fanny jones fanny jones You you speak so soft screwed up to that mic. There you go. There you go. I like it. Oh, yeah, I need to hear you see Okay, now. Oh, yeah, man. Can we hear that? Oh, we can hear you sound good Yeah, I see because when the podcast go we we and I love to explain this part No one's gonna see your face All they're gonna do is hear your voice and I wanted to sound good to our When you're riding in the car and you hear man, John Monroe is in this Come on, man. Yeah. Yeah, you sound so good. There you go. Got it. Got it. I got it. All right. It sounds dope Man, you should get you should be on radio says, right? She got that romantic You need to do the late night, you know the late night part You know like like Rudy v used to do the late night, you don't know that yellow Oh So just just John Monroe just tell us a little bit about coming from Turrell What enthralled you? How did you how did you figure out figure it out? How did you know that because I'm looking at looking at your Researching you and looking at your bio you we find out you went to school in a song opera, right? You know that that's dope. But what what gave you that inspiration say grandma? Let's talk about for sure So my grandmother raised me. Okay, he's Texas and Turrell and we um She like really instilled in me Just the arts and music and knowledge and being a strong female and being a strong black woman And so that was something that was really important to her because she you know, she grew up Um overcoming a lot just you know being a black woman in America And so she helped me through that and she started me off a piano Started me off in classical piano at six And then I turned around and started singing a classical voice Wow And you know, she was just like always encouraging me to pursue my dreams and And inspire others like we would wake up at Four in the morning go to the catholic church John and Turrell And we would like do service acts and go and visit, you know, the friends of her graves Of the graves of her friends and um, we would go and just do things like that And so I people always tell me I'm an old soul. Yeah, I just told you that We started for sure. I get that every time someone talks to me, but it really is true um, and Basically just that process of growing up in east, Texas and being able to to really travel the world and um Build, you know things that I have built. You know, I am the ceo of a successful artist development company Wait, that's dope. You know based here in dallas, texas. Wow So you're seeing a lot of the talent that comes through dallas for sure and and and they're basically and and god Is he prospering you over there? Oh, yeah, you know, uh, you know, you're king. I'm queen Well, you know at the end of the day the word of god says that beloved I wish above all things that I mean prospering being good health even if I was so prosper So, you know, that's a beautiful thing when you say I have this successful business That's saying god prospers me for sure and that's dope Yeah My grandma and my mom they always told me, you know, I stuck with it proverbs 1816 Your gifts will make room for you. Yes. Yeah, I appreciate that man But growing up in terrell, I know that your mom your grandmother instilled all of these things in you But how difficult was it growing up in terrell? And trying to learn these traits because although she's teaching you these things It wasn't just she just teaching you to get it like that. It's over time before it, you know, you actually got it So what was what was the difficulties growing up there compared to, you know, other places? First off, I was a stubborn little girl. So when I first, you know, went down there, I like I was like, I kicked I kicked my uncle and I was like, I ain't gonna be here. It's So like I always, you know, um, I'm very very strong willed and so Just the challenge of that but my my grandma's strength I think like rose up every single time that I wanted to, you know Do my own thing and I felt her presence and she would tell me stories. Wow Beautiful and so the stories I felt like really really stuck with me and that helped me like overcome Like the situations and different things like that because Give me an example of a story. Yeah. So like a big thing that like I felt like I struggled with growing up in Terrell was still racism. Hey And so because people don't realize you have the South side of the tracks and the north side of the tracks and you know, they feel like, okay The blacks are on the south side of the whites are on the north side. People don't know that and even You know, it's deep. It's been years now that I um when I had moved to Terrell and I found all of that out But you would think that that was luckily you ended up on the south side And it also is lucky, you know, if you went down a little further and turned on rows of belts you'd have married a pastor Yeah, because that's what they all stay at. You know what I'm saying They down there at that end row where you turn and they always lined up when I used to be down there I said boy, this the street right here where a lot of tithing going on But yeah, I knew that it was a lot of revan daniel used to have a place right in front of uh Say, is he still alive? I don't know revan daniel. Yeah Well, yeah, me and him would have a lot of conversations about god when he was around You know, you know how I am and uh, I would tell him different things and we would have different You know, I love the I mean we debated a little about different things that I felt, you know We we needed to talk about when I would see him, you know And it was just a delight to be able to talk with him and spend time with him And not only him the one that live I could I know where all them live Because god gave me a gift to deal with the leadership People you got to understand he tells you who to deal with and talk to most of the time They come right here and sit there. We have sunday Little segments with pastures all the time because I'm a I'm a different type of dude, man You know, I feel like you can worship god where you stand So it brings a lot of different Obstacles to people who say they go to church when I feel like you are the church I feel like you should be dealing with god at all time because life is too short and Death and all that it's unexpected and so we need to be dealing with that all the time And so it's not a thing to where it's a traditional thing. It's a spiritual thing I don't know why I took y'all there. Well, let's get to it Let's let's go back to the story Of you said the biggest thing biggest obstacle you had to face was racism. How did your grandmother? What was the story she told you to overcome this exactly? She always told me that When all spells look beautiful, but not just on the outside on the inside too And so no matter what situation that I that I've dealt with whether it was something direct like being called the n word Or if it was You know not being able to hang out with with certain people anymore because You know their parents didn't really approve of all of that or I felt uncomfortable over there She was like, you know what you are worth it. You are valuable. You are god-created you You are you're you're queen. Do you realize? My mom always says we come from good stock. Yeah, I'm like Me we come from good stock and so like she really always just encouraged the confidence in me She encouraged Education she encouraged things that would give me the foundation of being Confident without breaking my will, you know and letting me be artsy and letting me explore The arts and the creative side of things and she just really encouraged my dreams and and everything else and because of that like Every single time I had to deal with a situation like that I would Know my self-worth. So I would kind of let it roll off, right? And when I was younger it that didn't happen all the time, right? But now it would be a fight, right? But it's a it's a process. It is a process evolution is real and the crazy thing about racism people don't understand These are some people who are who are like this to you were kids growing up with you and they didn't portray that because kids don't see no color They're like, oh, we're just friends But as you get older and certain things get instilled in them then all of a sudden that start to change You can't hang with this person anymore and much less date that person. It's a problem. Yeah, you know Well, I mean, you know, when you really look at What's going on in those inner cities, you know, I can remember when Jamie Foxx came home one time and he was like You know, he felt disrespected because when he was coming to town They had put a small picture of him on on the newspaper And he put a big picture of a tractor and a white guy sitting on it And after that after he made a statement or two The next time he came they put billboards out by the highways and everything else to try to make up for it So we know that these issues are there These issues are still there to this day These issues are things that we face in America and in other countries as we well know because people who have stepped up And said things about it. So I understand where you come from when you say that you face challenges of racism because I'm from a smaller even smaller town And yeah, it was even it was there. It was livid. I mean and the older you go back the more aggressive it becomes Now they hide a little better nowadays, but at the end of the day We've seen what happened with George Floyd We've seen what happened with Sandra Bland and all the things that we see that caused us to have these different Trayvon Mortons and all the different things that we've seen happen We know that these things are happening and they're live and we We're in fear of our children a lot of times when they go out and they drive and And my son called me one night and his car quit when he was in canton And I told him what are you doing out there and three three in the morning And you you got a flat tire and and immediately I jumped up out of the bed and Start trying to get that way because I have a fear in my heart that if somebody see him Out there at that time of night in that area as a black man by himself That's something bad could happen And so this is the stuff that we live with that others can't even identify with So It's it's different. It puts us in a in a in a bubble You see what I'm saying? So I get it. I get where you're coming from when you say what you say and how you deliver the message for sure Definitely love the way that uh I listen to your song. You know, I love I love how it's right in your face. I got a question. So, um, How over you when you started singing when you were in tarot because you said you came to tarot So I know that you weren't born in tarot. No, I was born in dallas And then you went out there to live with her. Yeah, okay. So why did you move from Dallas and how over you? I was I think four when I went to those That's dope. That's dope. You from and you went straight on the tarot I wouldn't and why did you have to go out there and not stay in dallas? No, I wanted to um, my mom is was modeling at the time. Oh, yeah, mama getting it in Pre instagram model. She was straight up. I got the queen mama. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she Yeah, I talked to her. Yeah, she don't But she but at the end of the day she was modeling and trying to take care of business as her career and traveling and and doing all of that and My grandmother at the time it was like, I love her and they all you know Shout out to my brothers, but you know, I felt like I was the favorite the favorite grandchild. I was like that too. So I get it Are you are you the only girl? I guess that's the reason why That's the reason why so when you going out there. Okay, so you were four When did you discover your love for singing? Around like six so nope. Yeah, so it was really my grandmother put me in she always had this quote I get my left arm if I could play the piano So she She put me on piano and I started learning that but I realized I really liked to sing because music was always an escape Yeah, you know, I got to be who I was and really you know, because my grandmother was real structured and so I got to party That's live So and that's one sport if you call it a sport. That's one sport. You don't have to pay with anybody else You can do it by yourself for sure easy So do you um like like when you when you got older I'm gonna fast forward a little bit. I want to go to that part where Okay, it's time for john john's one row to go. No, I have one question in between that you do. Yes So you started singing at age of six, but I know you didn't start singing opera right away. No, I didn't So what age did you figure out? Well my my vocal Can go to that stage because to sing opera you have to get up there. Yes for sure So around you figure that out 12 I started training. That's dope. Good question. So why opera rather than regular R&B Right. I love I love love. I'm obsessed with culture Yeah, and when my grandmother always, you know Encourage me like to explore the world and like really just be the independent, you know, can I cuss on here? Yeah Okay, that's don't go too long. You know what I'm saying don't look good Don't become you because you're beautiful and at the end of the day if that what it takes to get your point across You do what you do, but at the end of the day, it's on you. So I was going to say that that Go ahead. It was just it was just the s word Oh, yeah, yeah, it's just a boy. I'm telling you that I'm knowing the hero in the face. It was just the s word Okay, you want to say shit, right? Okay, we're gonna fast forward Go ahead tell us what's going on Sorry guys, all right, so um fast and fast and fast and forward around 12 I started singing opera and Exploring culture exploring the world. I love languages. I still study languages And so I got to do that in in the songs and you know, I I'd always have loved all types of music Yeah, just country music rap music opera Yeah, and you know because of that and they realized that I love music like that They um they put me in opera and had me try some sessions out and I loved all my instructors throughout the years and so I think from uh 12 13 and up until like Like 19 20 I sing opera. See I had a friend who I'm back home in Jamaica She sang opera and I didn't realize that when you sang opera You have to know all these different languages because she when she sang She sang in all these different languages and I'm like, okay. I don't know what you're saying But you sound so good and her voice Was so strong and she was at a time when I first heard her she was probably about 10 But she could be in this room and make the wall shake That's how strong her voice was and I'm looking at this little girl. She's short I'm looking at her like where did that voice come from? Nobody else in her family has that voice like that boy. She had no and well She doesn't sing anymore because her parent because she was living in New York and that's where she would have gotten the most exposure But um, New York is not always great to raise kids, you know, depends on the type of area and and stuff like that So they had moved back to Jamaica And so, you know where the career was concerned. I don't think that just went out the window But um her voice. Oh my god. And then she knew languages at 10. That's dope. And that just Amazed me. Yeah. Well, I think Hey, man, you know, like she said you give her make room for you You know and and the part that kind of confuses me is that talent not Taking her all the way if she was who well, you know what I love about today's society I mean the social media platforms are so in your face. They tell you if you're good enough a lot of times The social media back then wasn't a thing. How long how far are we talking? Okay? She was 10. I was probably about 17 so that was some so now She's probably in her 30s right now. Yeah. Yeah. What's her name? Ramona shout out to Ramona. Yeah, she be getting it in. Yeah, I let your boy see unique hustle Let's go Okay, so what I want to do is Give us um, give us a little bit of opera. I want to hear All right, let me see. Yeah All right, you know what I like I like that I never heard nothing like that in this place. I don't know microphone Okay, we'll do that one more time. I want to know what that was and let me hear it. Come on. Did you hear it? Shamar, you need to hear this. This is something new girl. Go ahead. Oh Give me another one. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Just a little bit. Is all opera in different languages is not any in english Oh, you have like latin areas. Um, there's some I sing some classical pieces like, um, I sing I used to sing this song Center, please don't let this harvest pass. Let me hear what you got there. Let me see if I can remember that one Listen, I think the center may let the harvest pass long selling on Oh center, please Don't let this harvest pass Center, please Don't let this harvest pass That's good. That's good. I don't know. I don't know. That don't because You're so used to hearing all that. That doesn't sound like an opera. It's a Negro spirit. Oh, so classified. Yeah, but they let it, they let it pass. Yeah, that's more like yeah Dang, so you just running around here black singing opera. I'm singing a couple of y'all Um It ain't many is there a lot of blacks that sing african-american? It's not many But that's dope. Wow, for sure. Because you step you step on a different stage Because you so you traveled everywhere to sing opera. Yeah, it's classical music opera. So when I started Sorry, no when you went all these different places and you didn't see many people who look like you um Did tarot come back to the back of your mind in those situations? Definitely all the time All the time and really up until this past year with the like I feel like the george floyd movement Did something different to every black person. Yeah, I read I read that I don't know. I don't know if it did something different to every I I think it it's something that it's just like anything else Some people took it different ways. They had to sit down and look at it because of kovat And so they were stuck in the house and it was forced to look at this and they didn't have That you know, people wasn't having a lot of room for tolerance at this time, but The way it was done was so outlandish the way he just just put it right in our face. This is what this is what I represent And and it it woke a lot of people up walk a lot of countries up but Some people were just doing it for the for the hype too Everybody wasn't just doing it from a sincere place bandwagonist I say that because I don't own jobs in different places. You've seen them start to You know, oh we care and all that but you know People can say a lot of things Jesus says these people honor me with they lives and speak of me like with them I put their heart as far from me and I'm paraphrasing but at the end of the day I've never seen the change In the structure of our Look at look at look at when you look at different ways that people are structured in the corporate american world Where has that changed if everybody's standing up for like that? You see what I'm saying it when it comes to the money. I think a lot of time the change stops Yeah, for sure our people are suffering And without people suffering like they are in certain situations and and not only that being manipulated and There's the job placement is not it hadn't changed So I think and I don't blame it on every other race. It's up to us to pull ourselves up as well um We we have a lot of people a lot of a lot of when it comes to rap music Entrepreneurs when it comes down to producing whatever music we're talented people But we need to step up and and do us right when it comes down I don't apply people in these big higher up positions because a lot of unity need to be pulled together on On their level, but a lot of times they're so caught up with their monetarily gain that they excite their own people So I just I don't I don't play with it. I I see it and it's it's very distasteful to me For sure for sure. You see what I'm saying. We got to do more the unifies of people Yeah, I feel like and that's why I wrote my record because I feel like We have overcome The fact that we're not slaves anymore, obviously I feel like we've overcome the fact that we're not slaves anymore and I feel like we have Overcome like, you know being second-class too But we haven't overcome realizing that we're amazing that we are kings and queens That we can do anything And because of that confidence within ourselves, it can finish breaking the Jim Crow And that they actually divide in the actual layers that they gave us And so once once we get over that home Yeah And once we have some more music to inspire that because the music inspires culture Yeah, all right in fashion video and we were slowly doing it Matter of fact, I'll my favorite thing that happened lately and I felt it yesterday and I said, mommy, you feel that she said Yeah, that was weird. I said, yeah, and we're like that was good. We're like, yeah, that was weird We're at a restaurant. I won't say wherever we're at a restaurant. Um, it was like a market Okay, and we're the only black people there. Okay, as you I do that a lot Well, and and um, we were about to get some food and we're waiting patiently in line And then there were some people that weren't black right behind us and um And um, they they were over talking us to the person checking us out And they were like ignoring the fact that we were in line and not giving it and just really privileged and entitled Yeah But I don't I don't know if they actually realized they were doing that Yeah, because the the beauty of the whole situation was amazing because of the awareness that's being brought So for me the george floyd movement, that's what it brought was awareness and it awoke me as as jones munroe And so with with the the people checking us out. Normally they would have catered to them They would have like but that didn't happen. They stopped they say You guys need to get in line exactly and they got in line And I think they realized at that point that they were out of line. Yeah, no no pun intended But then we we go up to the line and then they take it one step further. They said ma'am Ma'am. Sorry. Yeah. Is there anything else we can get you? And I said No, thank you. Yeah. Yeah, and it was the first time I've in my life. I've ever experienced that Wow, you know, there are certain things that we you know I get it because I know that that it happens to us a lot But it's also things that you remember we was in california and that brother pulled us out of line And he said hey, I want y'all to come up here and he was pulling everybody but some of the but mostly people that look like us And uh, he said brother, we're not going to let y'all stand in line. I'm not playing this guy told me this He'll he'll brother in california if we was at uh, uh, who's that hurts? And he said the line was from here out out the door. I won't pass my truck out there and uh, he say Brother, we we hey before he pulled you out of line one thing I don't remember if I told you he was over there sitting down He was like trying to call people trying to call and I'm looking at him like I know he because it's not something of normal Calling us out of line to come jump everybody in line because he wanted to bless us You know ignoring it and he got up out of his seat and came over there and said hey y'all come on Because he wanted us to understand that he wanted us to be first And that was the first time that ever happened to me And I was like that that's so lit. He followed me on instagram still and I'm telling you man. I just I Never had that happen before. I just thought about that when you were saying what you were saying That's dope like the whole line it was alone and I'm telling you there's a lot of people But he made sure to acknowledge his people And you know how many times does this happen on the other side? We know it happens But for us to feel like I want to help my people that that was dope That was literally the dopest moment On that vacation. I don't know what the hell we was doing But but that was dope So I mean but that's one thing but let's let me take it a little further Our people need counseling too We need it starts in the home with the family is having these discussions openly Telling our children our children children's children what happened and understanding what it caused In our and our people because there's a lot of stuff that we have to we have to acknowledge Yeah, we did pass slavery But there are some things that are underlining where our families have been split that it trickles down We we give up easy. We we think it's okay not to be together when you have children We feel like it's okay to Just pretty much uh go our separate ways and it's not We got to start formulating our families back together and trying to figure out ways to Educate our families to where you know, hey, it's okay to be together and fight for what you what you believe in You know what I mean and finish what you saw it Quit quit stopping. You know what I mean what you it's easy to quit That's the easiest thing. I'm telling you but it's hard as hell to keep working at something I promise you and not only that just to know like what you're saying to know that you're worth more Because you have a lot of people out there who will say i'm a king or i'm a queen I'm worth something but really deep down inside. They don't believe themselves They just say it all the time because it shows in their actions When yes, they might have adorned themselves nice and they dress nice and they look beautiful and everything and people looking at them Like oh, they're confident there this But if you watch them closely and see how they might be jealous over x y z if you're confident You you're not going to be jealous of anybody else So just stuff like that show little signs that you're really not believing yourself Well, I think I think that I think the process goes deeper Because I think that you have to know why you're a king and a queen See because the word of god tells you you're a king and a queen The word of god says you're a chosen generation says you are saints I say this a lot on these episodes. It says you you are a holy nation It says you're fearfully and wonderfully made You see what I'm saying? So you got to know that how to tap into that if you believe that because I'm a christian So I believe that if any man being christ he's a new creature Old things are passed away. Behold all things become new So when things become new now I can be this person that God says I am instead of who people made me out to be my entire life So I get to start over again Isn't that beautiful But everything starts in the mind. Yeah, but but but that but that starts in the spirit that So it overtakes and overlaps that's why the bible tells you to strengthen big yeast strength and then you're in a man You got to feed your inner man your inner person your inner self You got to have you got to feed it the right food spiritually if you don't Then you're gonna end up down yourself like you were talking about earlier not understanding your king and queen But once I know that god says i'm a god Then i'm good I don't care what nobody else say at that point. Hmm. Am I right? You're just so right You're so right. Can I get amen? Hey Hey, you know, I this this is a christian station But really I just like acknowledging who we are and pretty much telling the truth about What it says we are most people don't know that they set up and they always wrote by the white man and all that But they never even read it They don't even know it never even said nothing about a white man either This is I mean people have put these things in there. You talk about different languages The language changing has happened from way back You know the greecians pushed greek at a time period on everybody to where they would Forced that language after they was coming out of hebrew You know what i'm saying certain languages pretty much were pushed on people and they were made to speak these languages culturalist So, you know, we know that so at the end of the day That's a good thing You know that we know our history and then we go back and find out the conosity of the scriptures How did the scrolls come to be and then not only that if you want to check other things like egyptian literature All they do that too I found it when you start doing stuff like that you end up coming right on the god Because you start finding out the truth You see what i'm saying so you got to know your history But you get but most people most african-americans were raised in church um But when you go to church as a child you go there and go to sleep I'm not lying a lot of us did fall asleep to go to sleep You fell asleep because it was boring to you. You didn't understand certain things. Did you fall asleep? I remember snoring But what i'm saying is that you do this because you were forced to your parents So this is it became such a tradition that this is what you did So some people even as you leave your parents house you you continued in this tradition And you go and listen to this man Say what he has to say You hear it for that moment. You felt good But when you left the next day they ask you what he preached most people don't remember it You didn't implement it in your life because you did not go research it for yourself You did not make it your own just muscle memory exactly so As you get older and you go through trials and tribulations that's the reason why god put us through trials and tribulations for us to search for him and I have been that person in the past where You know you read the bible and you get certain parts, but a lot of times you're like I don't get that part. I don't understand So a lot of people tend to get discouraged and put it down because I don't understand what it's saying You know what I mean? So that's why they always go and look for somebody else to tell them but As I got older and as we study I realized that The reason why you don't understand because you have too much clutter in your mind and in your heart you're not letting go of fleshly stuff To be able to store spiritual For sure for sure But nobody don't really tell you that and break it down to you. That's why I meditate That's so Meditation is real I have to meditate I meditate every day and then I try to meditate all day You know live in that space, but yeah It helps it helps because it helps we we live in such a fast-paced generation You know and you know, it's how do we get to the next how do we get to the next instead of focusing On ourselves that when we meditate we can clear out that clutter you're talking about right exactly That's that's lit So with your new album with your um with black are we going to start seeing a lot more like that? For sure. Um, I have Two more records that are like that. Well, all my music is you know Southern inspired and has that basis, but I have I have the love records I have my perception of love. I have um, I have the soul records of of Inspiration of like where you know the thought-provoking conscious records of like where I come from that just make you feel good Um, I have the pretty records, you know, I have the the forget-you records will say that, you know No, you you want to say something else? But you know The absolute thing you have to have to have to realize man is that It's It's something that Okay, I put it like something inspired you who who any any artists that's known that any inspire you Oh, for sure. For sure. Who was your who was your biggest inspiration when it comes down to people who? Who who who we hear on the radio who we see on the tv or who we see on youtube? It may not even be somebody see I'm asking I'm trying to get there. Yeah, so, uh, Aretha Franklin, a huge inspiration for me Okay, just how so basically anybody you can feel that I feel like taps into that meditation meditation space When they're singing like aretha, you know, you can tell that her voice is her voice, but it's not her voice Like it's coming through her. You know, um, so any artists that like that and even rap artists, you know, like You just have certain real Conscious people like tupac and and um, I love I love me some tupac, man, you know, I'm a pat in the bell Fae. Oh, okay. Don't don't play You heard you heard how she get down. Okay. Ain't nothing like it I love some patty. There's nothing like it like nothing. You know what in a sing-off They would both be amazing So you know what else I like, um, uh, you better know it you better say it I like some Ray Charles because Ray Charles is my I love Ray Charles. Um, you know who I like. I love her voice. Um Tony Braxton, I like Tony Braxton. I love how low she sits, you know, she says she says her voice is that very different Very different Tony Braxton. I love Jacob Banks. I love Jacob Banks. Okay. I love Jacob Banks Give me some r&b I mean, I want to hear some r&b the the song that you picked when you say I'm saying I love the way that's That's more like my style. Uh for r&b records. I love, um The the sexy records. Let me hear it. You want to hear it? You want to hear my record? Yeah, I want to hear what you oh, this is your record. Oh, you want to hear my record? No, if that's what you want to do, but I want to hear something from with an r&b field Uh, you want me to sing it right now? Yes. Oh, okay. Let me say Which song Is it something that I'm gonna know? It's not something you're gonna know. It's a sneak preview. Okay. Let's go. Let's go I'll take this from this from this from now. Do you need us to find a beat? Oh Let's go. She got her own beat going All right, so this song is called two by four. Here we go And they said when you love somebody spiritually Emotionally mentally physically Other than one Pull back my head Tell all my shade Tell me you want me It really ain't fair How you don't care I know you're still Really do only all you got me And I don't want nobody else but you Here by my side Could you check out more box is the most two out of four two out of four I don't want her to stop. I'm here to say every word. I'm hanging on every word. I'm like, please don't stop Say man, that's it right there, man. I felt it. You know what I'm saying? I felt it in here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah She was going to I even look at her to be honest I didn't look at her. You know what I'm saying? She's a cute girl. I want to own the way in front of music I don't try to do that. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the radio to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah No, but it was I loved it. I loved it. I'm like, okay, definitely gotta get that song Downloaded whenever so I can use it on certain times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll play that certain time Already, um, let let me get them top. Uh, three artists of all times Top best top three artists of all time. You heard it. No, what is your top three artists of all time? Any genre where you you've kind of expressed it, but still let's let's go. That might not be her top three What she said before did our lives any jungle too far? Okay. Okay Outcast okay I love okay. Who is your favorite person? Andre 3000. It's Andre. Of course. He's like I could have told you that The eclecticness of mine is big boy. It could have been him. I'm gonna throw up with mine It's a written rock. I'm rocking. Okay. So I have some like more like so like woke up this morning Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on I forgot you weren't here Somebody kissed me you come back up this time Of you People selling Christmas trees Ain't even Halloween Reminds me there's nothing artificial about you and me Said Oh Cry for you Don't know when you come back to me. Let me tell you what I'm gonna do Yeah, that's Jones Monroe niggas you niggas are messed up right here in the building Yeah, man. Yeah, I feel real good about it. That's the one that would hit me right there Yeah, that's what I'm gonna walk up now. Yes, sir. Oh, man We got this is it a star is born. Don't even trip So what did you get those vocals from like who in your family sings like you not like you nobody He'll lock an answer that Ain't nobody saying like that You'd have heard about him already Oh, you'd have heard about him already My uncle plays a guitar like Jimmy and Jay Yeah, I don't matter they ain't you though You the one You gotta manage it. I need to ask mama to sing for you They ain't doing right you know I'm here You gotta manage it. You gotta manage it or not I'm serious now. Yeah, sir. Okay. Let him let him don't act right. You got my number. Yes, sir Yeah, I put your little car package together too Yeah, he think about act right out here now. I mean I got a microphone these niggas is in trouble Yeah, I got a microphone now. You have a voice. Yeah, I got a microphone and you got a voice I Switch from Opera to this why don't you hold on I'm just asking why didn't you go back to singing opera? Because I know I read When you stopped opera it you came to take care of your grandma because she was you know her health was the finishing So but after that, why didn't you go back into the opera? I started teaching voice. Yeah And she opened her school. Oh vulnerable And I really I I believe so much that music is connected To the universe it is Like and there's no separation to it and I didn't feel like I had a message to give out And so right now That that I was real passionate about and strong about to where it would pull me away to put 100% into it You know and and give everything the amount of care because I've always done music You know, that's what I do, right, right, but the biggest thing that that caught me one day I was sitting there and all these songs literally I wrote and about 15 minutes they I literally just wrote them straight. So Yeah, that's the biggest thing that that you know, like That came You know, no, but it says because okay, we've never I always wanted to go to an opera to to watch I don't know about that. I'm nervous about that. I know he's probably never I want to go to where you were singing while ago I know there, you know, but but the white part of her So a granddaddy Because the thing is that I'm gonna be in the back east popcorn Okay, you know how you you watch movies. No, that's where we see it on right you watch the movies And you see it and you see when some people are watching it. Everybody gets so emotional. Some people fall out crying just watching Opera and I'll be watching It's so beautiful. I know there's a lot of emotion From the toes right as much as I don't understand one word they're saying But you can feel everything within, you know, just the power in their voices So it's like I would love to go and just experience that I just never mentioned it to him because I know he would never want to go with you But I'm not gonna be just like up in Vegas. Let me tell you something I'll go to sleep. I don't he will go and he'd be like No, this this would be him This is what you take me here for Yeah, yeah, if it ain't right, he would I gotta feel it. He would metal and but I gotta feel it. He might end up crying though. I would love to see that to see if he got into it that much I would love to see it I'm a thug and I ain't gonna cry I'm definitely not gonna cry, you know, it's I'm probably gonna laugh I'm gonna tell you right now. It's it's it's not gonna come out like you think I mean because you don't don't get it twisted But the the songs that hit me was what you did there at the end. I ain't gonna lie to you I can't lie on my ear. I told you that already. I can't lie on what I hear and what I feel I don't do that I gotta be real else. I'm not in life. It's too short. I don't want to go out here trying to figure it out with you When I'm girl ain't gonna tell my age But I ain't got time to be playing with right now I can't be playing with time see time is something you don't play with right now Now if you want to go to opera, we'll go over. We're not gonna stay all night But but y'all cuz they were going alone, don't they? I went to one recently during cover. How long does it last? It was only about an hour and a half I can do that. I can do that. Do they have to have it here now? It's right? Yes at the wind spear opera house Okay, well, you mean they go down there. Y'all should go. It would be a beautiful night, you know Get dressed up. You feel like a queen that you are, you know You want to be the king for the night? Oh, I'm a king every night, but you know what I mean That don't make you no king What's the best seats to get in an opera house in the back because I'm gonna be tripping Get away from the front How do you have a performer and you can hear some people in the crowd like this chit chat and talking and no I normally normally people are so quiet quiet and crying Yeah, I'm not gonna cry and he's not gonna be quiet and I'm damn sure not gonna be quiet see You know what? Don't even take you don't take me down. They kicked me out of church when I was about four That's why I didn't really get I didn't really get that. Yeah, they didn't let me get it really I'm telling you the truth My brother I have to call you and um, we can go together. Yes. No I'll go but I'm gonna sit in the back We can sit in the front. Y'all sit in the front I'm gonna be in the back like what they show is up there long But I'm going I'm gonna that's gonna be back there. You know, I never did I never went to one I never went to one. So we'll go. I want you to text me when the next one. Okay For sure the next good one. Okay. It's on the Saturday. Yes, sir. This is like what time? What time did you go to the last one? I went to it was at 7 p.m. You can't be late. That's cool because it starts right right on time and then you you want to You don't want to get caught like making noise because you can hear pin drops So if you walking in you can hear the heels So it is exactly I'm I haven't heard the phone but I hear the It is exactly what I see on tv then because that's exactly what it is like everybody have to be totally silent Yeah, well, let's get back to the black Hey And even we trying to get this lady man bc shout out to bc man Shout out to bc. Let's go black. What's what so what's your relationship with your bc? bc is amazing. He's managing me right now. Okay. Okay. Shout out to bc. Stay on it boy. I'm coming through He's a great mentor to Okay, so how long has he been managing you? Oh not long. I met him actually Through another client because I work and represent a lot of different clients. So I actually took him a rap artist And it was funny. He goes. Do you do music and at the time? I think I still wasn't even doing music. I was like And I was like I just work with music I work with talent, you know, I go like I do things I go to the grammy's like we work with artists So he heard your voice at that time when he asked you that question No, and this is how I knew it was brewing inside of me after you just kept asking me I I sent him a picture of me that doesn't really look like me But it's me and sent him like this record that I did and I sent it over and I really was trying to play That's not the picture it's a black and white picture Explain this picture My favorite line from my last record is um We came from king I came from kings rose up from queens been through so much talk You know, I came from eve so like The apple is just a signature of the woman and how strong we are and in my arms up in there, obviously But it's all of the photos all the arts very symbolic for the projects In all the songs. So you do A strong face. Yeah, like, yeah, I'm a queen. Yeah Her expressions. Oh you weren't her expressions when she's singing and everything and I'm gonna sit down here Watching your you have expressions out of this world I'm telling you You're very expressive in your face when you are singing. I mean everything So you said you had a rap artist that you introduced to him so that you You also got to vex vex vex vx vex is dope. He was on All platforms I've been working on since he was I don't know about four years really though. I like it. I'm gonna look him up side the vex man We're gonna be looking at so you develop um rappers too. I develop all genres. I work with Screamo to pots r&b to rap soul. I have a team of uh Industry creatives that we work with and we do how long you've been in business doing this. I've been doing this for 12 years. I've had my my personal business for five. Hey, and what's the biggest artist you've ever produced? Um, I don't know. I've done things from like aca pop with the penitonics, which is like pretty cool. Um like from from like From start to finish I mean, I have artists that have signed. I'm trying to think of of my favorites are popping in my head from country artists I work with a guy named shane stevens in country. I love the interview here. Where is he at? That's who I work country artists. We haven't had a country You know, I have sang almost all drama shout out to kirsta kirsta rodin. She's one of my um black country artists And she's really making some waves and country music right now Yeah, she uh just got back from nashville. So I'll tell her to shout out to you The closest thing to a country artist that we've ever had on t-dash t-dash song country over here No, she's real country. She's not no no no no t-dash. She's a real country even in her life Yeah, just singing you just country. Oh, okay. I got country, you know, I like that man, you know You know what? Territory can learn from this woman I'm gonna have to show it to you I like I like that That's dope, man I love I love the way that she comes across because it makes you and it gives you a I'm pretty sure it gives them More confidence when they say they learned from you You see what I'm saying it has to like when you go you go like Yeah, I know how to do things but if I get approved from somebody who's been doing it long and they show me things that Makes me feel like I'm doing better and I sound better. I see the improvement It gotta give you a sense of confidence and not only that but to hear her voice and know that her voice is not She's not just in one genre of music But she can do this and this and this and not just trying to teach me because you have some people who are coaches and can't think Yeah, but you can do both You're not gonna teach me and can't say You're not gonna cook from me and you and you and you and you ain't fat Yeah, you got to be fat. Yeah, it's a lot of stuff to go with a lot of things I'm not fat and I cook for you. Yeah, you're like aux tails That's my wife. She's from Jamaica. That's his favorite. Okay. I've been I can't I've been eating aux tails for like three weeks I don't know why but I can't stop. I haven't been on aux tails Okay, but have you gotten american aux tails or jamaica? I cook them. She cook. Okay. How do you cook it? Southern area I'm not gonna go there with you, but southern rural area Dallas Terrell wasn't the same back then we got a bucky now bucky's now and everything else Hutchison's you can get your groceries on credit That's it. That that that is country but not as country as us. We are we only have terrell big now Yeah, we only had one store growing up and one post office. I'm a country boy When was the last time you've been down there? I just went down there. We had like a few weeks ago. I was down there yesterday It's like I beat you too. And I was down there the day too. Oh, okay. I frequent Terrell Yeah So what's up with you and jamey fox man? It's checking man jamey fox. I'm tapping in with you because man We got looking man. Let me finish my little tapping. We got john Monroe on the show Her grandmother taught her how to play the piano or to send her to learn how to play the piano Your grandmother showed you so I mean, yeah, yeah rock with them. They should do something together Yeah, you know because your voice is dope and he he can sing a little bit and you sing a little bit when a little bit He's like no, yeah, okay. Yeah, shout out boss talk. I changed my mind Now like I like you're not gonna do my jamie. No, she love jamie. I love jamie man Like like I love terrell texas stop playing man jamie Man, come on man. That's the only thing I talk about like when I'm going out of town I'll be like, yeah, I got a store in terrell where jamie fox from People people only if you say oh terrell texas, they don't know it but you say oh where jamie fox is from. Oh Yeah, he the man But then he didn't even dallas if you say jamie fox Yeah, and people like where dallas he he he he gonna he can always see terrell, but people I mean he didn't recognize for dallas as well. He's just that big like Have you ever met him? I have met him briefly when he came down. I was there that day He didn't even get to talk to you and listen man. They named the street after him. That's when you're talking about So my my aunt uh, my great aunt was the mayor of terrell Oh So you gotta you got exclusive. Yeah, so, you know, did you get to talk to him? Just briefly What did you say to him? Hi You got on the stage and you fly You know, that's what I call it like Like even when we met steed madden, uh, whoever we meet It's like I get on the stage It's like I got to be prepared because you never know what's gonna happen And I want to make sure I captivate in this moment. Yeah, just like performing. Yeah So that's where I look at it. So if I meet somebody it's already prepared and mean like I'm ready I'm ready. Like this is like this is the moment. I've been waiting for You know That's all right. Like that's different That's what's up. Yeah I wouldn't just say hi I might have said hi and went into my opera. I don't know If I'm you, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm gonna go into my opera like That was a very busy day though. That was an extra But wasn't that day? Yes. That was the same. We was down in that day And my brother sat out to my brother because my brother He picked up on something, you know, we had guys that was we've been going down there You know, Steve's come a lot and it was certain people like man, I don't like Jamie Foxx Jamie Foxx, man, I used to shoot. I used to play ball with him. I used to play the drone We don't like that. Nick. He don't even come home. He don't do nothing and this is just hood talk, right? But then when Jamie Foxx came Hey, Jamie! That's Jamie right there. You remember me and I'm like buddy nigga shoulder and chain But you know, they love Jamie, but you know, it's like they don't want him to go like they love him so much that they hate to see him go Stay down here with us. Perform at the theater. Oh, I got more stories, but I'm not gonna put him out there on certain people But I heard some things and but when Jamie came to town, he shut all that damn That guy shut down quick. He was gonna escalate, right? He'd come out to sunroof them niggas went crazy Crazy, I said wow, I loved it man. So you was there that day. How old was you? You was young Yeah, she was How long ago was that? They named Bradshaw, which that was the name of the street to Jamie Foxx And then they start fixing on the house. I hadn't been by there in a while. It's still there, but it's still there And it's like somebody cuts the yard over there, you know, so I'm like I think somebody actually lives in there Yeah, but I'm like It's like a well-preserved vacant house. I see somebody go in there like The windows are always like like clear. Okay, like last time I drove through I was just like, wow, that's a clean window Jamie is dope though. I love the way that he took his family up there. He pulled his family He I think he lost his sister here recently Um, you know, but Jamie is is is who we are He's our people for sure and he and he is from turtle and he keeps it real I got a and his kids are real and he's doing well with his children. I love the relationship that we can see In what he does. I really do and and a lot of fathers can learn from that But I never be one. I've been wondering where the hell the momma's at I never see the mothers. I'd be like it's because they're not in the line I'm like they probably don't want to be seen don't want to be seen, you know what I mean So Because some people don't want to be in the limelight like that But then there's people like me. What's up? Yeah, come see me But okay, but my question about the jamie fox way because when you go down there, I know they gave that street his name Yeah, they did But doesn't it still have Bradshaw street on there as well too? It's like it's red That's what I'm like black people because they gave y'all a street Okay, but but if they gave you a street Why do you have two names on right? Why don't you take that name off and put it on because your mama was the mayor ask her So let's compare I need to do my research because I'm going to search other places in Dallas. You can start with the George Bush turnpike No, no that a name changed. I want to see did they actually turn the old one off and put a new one on That's true. Or is it only taro that did that? Well, I'm not going to read too far in it. We they're making progress You know This is a big step for them And so they was able to change the street down there to a brother's name And I'm going to be happy about that and if Jamie if you come home or they may give you the damn 34, but you don't come home like that no more You want 34 we give you 34 next time Highway 34. Highway 34. That's you now. We are we're I go out there and put the sign up. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, jaymond fox man But so you being from taro and you made it out to me you made it out because a lot of people never do what you've done You know, it's so great and your voice is spectacular, right? Appreciate that. Love it, man So how get when is the album dropping when we can get more than just black? I am dropping Please tell us I am dropping anticipation Of next fall the entire album, but I'm going to be releasing singles like every two That's really what you have to do. So when is the next single coming out? It is coming out in two months But it's a surprise on the date because just like I dropped black on juneteenth Like everything has like a special date time to it So how has june how has black been going since you released it in juneteenth the coolest thing It's been received so well Like I um my mom had a she had a joke. She she said if it can pass the hood it can pass anywhere I said, what? And she goes we're going to the hood and I said, what are we going and we literally we rolled up Shout out with all my brothers. We rolled up To keystone poke Shout out to connection they feel over the cat here. So I'm gonna get a boys shout out, you know You know, oh, yeah, and all the DJs show me love all of the all of my, you know My my my friends show me love everybody received the record real well Everybody's been receiving it. Well, it's been trending real nicely. You know all the platforms on spotify apple music Let's go. Uh, we dropped the the music video in a few weeks, which is so Who shot it? Yeah, who shot the music video? Uh, Ralph No, no Ralph can no never heard that name before He is an amazing videographer I can imagine how unique your video will be. Well, we don't know yet. See don't do that. No. Yeah, I feel like that would be a See The person that I'm learning about right now. I'm gonna be checking it out. You seem like that type that we'll just go I love quintin tarantino. I love just like film directors. I love like artistic things So as much as times I spent putting the record I do spend um putting into the visuals How long did it take you to do this video from Sorry to finish idea To production like two weeks. That's it two weeks for my idea Because I I meditate on everything and then like I because I feel like everything really for everything is built out already I can just be honest, which I will be checking it out. Come on. Check it out Yeah, I ain't gonna sit here and exactly what you thought about it being do you think you nailed it I feel like I had me showing on here and it was a different type song But it was by leaving a man and I say hell I believe you because her visuals. You see what I'm saying Yeah, yeah, she left the house with a bag and she was fighting to get out. Yeah I believe everything he told her to Yeah, she had on the pink outfit dragging the suitcase stuffing it in the car leaving that cat. Yeah, don't hit me Yeah, yeah, yeah, it got to be real like it gotta be you gotta put it all Leave it all on the stage Right. Yes. Yes. I can't wait to see it. We drop it in a few weeks What day? Let me see. I'm gonna have to get back with you guys. Yeah, but you know what go to my social media. You can find it Yeah, yeah, well tell us how we can find you on your social media since you said that for sure You can check me out online on any platform at love Jones Monroe, that's sound good At I am not you don't have a man. I do not have a second man. She needs a man You know I'm saying y'all intimidated. I heard about you intimidated niggas. Oh, I know y'all intimidated Yeah, have you ever had one to get intimidated on you like they won't come up to you You be after you be sitting there like why won't nobody talk to me? You know, I've had that before. Yeah. Yeah, where are you? People tell me sometimes that I've seen you look unapproachable, but I'm just no these niggas are scared Oh, this is the first time ever. I'm gonna bring this up. Okay. Oh, this is the first time ever And this is the only part of what he says that I do agree with I don't agree with anything else. He says, okay You don't No, because kevin samuels will say a lot of African-american women do not smile enough And that is usually what makes them seem unapproachable because even like I remember in the past I could be walking somewhere and a guy walked past me and said you can smile or smile And sometimes I do smile, but some people will turn around and curse that guy out or you know, whatever but Smile more that will also help to be you know, free to be more approachable if you want to be approached Well, you know you can smile, but if you if if they scared they just scared you could smile all day long Look, you smiling now, but they ain't gonna walk up. He he got to get it together. Do you got a job? Are you a high value man? You know What is it to you? Have you ever heard of him kevin samuels? I haven't but I'm gonna go check him out. Don't go. Don't go I'm over there. We don't do it. He watches him and I watch a lot of people now Don't just say it like him. It's a lot of people I watch on the internet There's a lot of controversy about him He had a lot of females calling them mainly females who calling to talk to him to prove him wrong about women Yeah, it's one of those And they educated to and they have value they think This thing is are you a high value woman? Are you a high value man? A lot of not have a kind of low value. Oh, wow Yeah, it's a lot of low value women out there. It's what he's saying. Wow, but we just got to work on it Come on kings and queens That's just a Opinion man, like most of the time people are so sensitive these these days to what's happening with our social media waves We've always had opinions now. You can just see them a lot more than what you used to do You know, but I really think and as I was saying earlier Your progress report On instagram youtube and all that it's real I'm being real like people tell you basically you're good or you're not good enough From that perspective and it's their opinion. It's their opinion. But actually, uh, those opinions are quite the dollars It didn't used to but it does now that's where you you can do your whole concert is right there in the midst of everybody at all time so Whether it be tiktok whether it be facebook whether be instagram wherever it is you should be performing It should be something you should be talking to the people that you're connecting with I think that's great when you connect with your people your supporters And basically as you do that you will grow your brand and also when you perform That's another whole section of your brand. So you got to do everything now but the thing about society now is Good opinions are good Comments and bad ones still equate to dollars because the more They go at it is the more views and the more, you know, that's right. You're more interaction interaction Have you ever heard this stuff or you we just tripping over here? No, no, no for sure This is what part of my company specializes in there you go. Yeah, we specialize in brand development social media Exactly creative Like all of the pr Yeah, so so you you've been these bids you've been these meetings. I'm in every single meeting Yeah, yeah, yeah mastermind. I literally just came over here from a meeting russian from That's it. That's it. I've been in sessions this morning since eight or nine this morning How much sleep do you get a day? A few hours. That's not an exaggeration Yeah, a few hours to at least six, you know on a good night six to seven. I do all nighters too. That's normal It's normal for a creative, you know, real real hustle You call it creative. I call it hustle. It's the same thing You know, like you're just trying to get to it, you know, I mean and and nothing wrong with it You know what I mean? We you're young You got to use your time That's what I figure, you know, I'm trying to you know, try to push it be on the penthouse and be on the Yeah, you have the island any kids. I do not have any kids No, I've been I have been married to my career for a while. Yeah, high value. Do you want? I do want some candy. Yeah. Well, you better hurry up the ticket time is You know, I think my mom will gonna get me if I don't have you know, at least two or three I can imagine she's in your ears. Like, come on now. No, it will see a baby. Oh, she'd be like, isn't she cute? Yeah Do your mom try to set you up all the time That'd be lame Listen, I just Yeah, say it be nigga lame That'd be lame, but it's cool. You know, shout outs all my kings and queens So, um, if you could talk to the the the young I have to say that the younger you If you could talk to that younger you say that the the 14-15 No, when she just started an opera I don't want to start that one just started 14 or 15. What would mean to me 13? Okay, 13 What would you say to the 13 year old you and in order to help them strive to our perfection? I would uh, re-encourage her that she was beautiful. Okay, that she is a queen That and explain the queeness though and that she can do anything Wow, great. Um, uh, that's that's it right there. Um, I read something. I want to go into something I read something to say that you went through depression at one time How did you um overcome it overcome it and How long were you in depression for in that pressure? Yeah, um for at least like I feel like I was really struggling for like two years. What caused it? I um, it went through like a hard situation Career-wise and then it was at the same time of my grandmother passing It was just everything at once just like life just like smacked me in the face and um, I just wanted really struggling through that time like and just some other personal matters like one day I am going to write a book about it. Why not? I mean you should As you should yeah, it's some it's some really like I don't even want to go there all the way mentally right now Because I think I'll even cry so maybe a little bit. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, we've had But you know, so like um, I went through that and the biggest thing that like helped me through it was music Now I know a lot of people say that but it really Was something to hold on to like every significant moment in my life. There's a song married to it And like anytime that I needed to feel comforted or peace. I would just listen to the song And so when it came time to like go go when I went through it and started doing music Then I wound up realizing that life was connected to songs And then that's when I feel like all my music and my records really are impacting people like The song that you really like I played while I was in the hood and to look around and I'll tell you Like it was the strongest toughest men. They started crying. Well, you notice I didn't cry That's gonna be one of my goals But you know how some people always um when you're going through depressive states or going through trouble Whether they go start smoking weed or drinking or whatever But at the end of the day when you sober up the problems are still there So even with your music you say you go listen to this you feel a little bit better, but then You move on from that you stop listening to it that it comes back You know the meditation then was the the last key of centering myself and Regrounding who I was and realizing that those moments didn't define me That that happened to me and then I my my change in perspective on all the moments they it changed because I started realizing that The beauty in that moment there was so the dichotomy of life, right? And then I was like wow, I wouldn't be this strong at all without this and I wouldn't Be this courageous and be able to stand up in this meeting and represent this artist and deal with these people And go through this situation if I had not gone through that situation exactly That I totally believe that a hundred percent. I always say As long as he's known it everything happens for a reason So when we go through trials and tribulations You don't always know that it's preparing you for something down in the future because you can't see that till later on on the line We've laughed at it and be like oh, that's why we went through xyz because that helps us prepare for what we're going through right now You know what I mean? So everything in our life that we go through is connected. Just know that No matter how big of a tribulation you're going through, you know that there's something really big waiting on you later on down the line You have to turn all that negative into a positive because just like I was saying earlier everything starts in the mind So it's how you perceive something you can say something that So-called could be disrespectful, but I can turn it in a way in my mind where I'm like Okay, you know, I'm you let it roll off because it's how you perceive something Well, you know, um Look like y'all had it going on there for a second I feel like y'all was connected and it looked like you guys were moving on without me Just like you're gonna do at the opera I'm gonna be in the back And y'all gonna be in the front Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna let you guys have it, but I'm gonna be there for you You know But you know, I mean I I could I could go on and on about your depression You know, because I'm I'm good with that, you know for it's You know, you people go through things for a reason like you just said But you know, it's mostly to help other people out of that situation once you make it through it That's the most important thing about going through something because now you have The ability to tap into what someone else who's suffering may be going through and maybe even save a life You see where I'm coming from And that person that wasn't it not strongest You got may tap you into that person and be like, you know what I went through something The next thing you know, they're able to come through because you're pulling them out the fire You know what I mean? Yes, I ain't gonna go no more because I go hard. Yeah, man You know, I can keep going I go all night long. Yeah, but that's that's why I got kicked out of the church. That's why Yeah, that's that's why, you know, because I go hard like to reach it. He was his competition up in that thing Thank you so much for coming on the show gentlemen. Well, thank you guys I was gonna say, you know, when you do come out with the next song Um Bring come in here. I'm gonna show you something we go. Yeah, we can we can celebrate the movement We gotta you know, because singles I like what you're doing because it's not you you bring out different portions of the the album and and it's not done in a way to where people got anticipated is what she's doing So what better way to display it than to come on boss talk 101 And and yeah, we might even have some models to stand up behind you with a t-shirt on You know I'm talking about and they just stand there Proud, you know what I'm talking about Yeah, yeah, that's black. We should have had him in here today. He's slipping hard, but we hear hey man Thank you for coming on the show. We love you. We wish you much success and I promise you Um, yeah, I'm gonna be calling I'm gonna get your number and I'm gonna be worried when you're trying to figure out What's up? What can we do to help the brand? What what do you need from us? That's how we do it That's why God keep on blessing us and we appreciate you. We love you We expect to see you go all the way to the top, baby Jamie fox. Look out. She's gonna be standing next door to you. I'll let your boy. See you nick hustle