 And, Matt, do you have the script? I have the script if you don't. I do, but timing, actually timing's not great for me. Give me one second. Okay, so welcome everyone. This is a meeting of the Amherst Cultural Council. And at this time, my name is Angela Mills. I work for the Town Manager. We are recording this meeting. It will go up on the Town of Amherst YouTube channel. It will be linked to the Cultural Council webpage on the Town of Amherst website, which is amherstma.gov. I'd like to recognize our wonderful co-chairs, Julianne and Matt, and have the co-chairs take over at this point. Thank you, Angela. Have a lovely evening. You too. Thanks. Okay, so pursuant to the chapter 20 of the Acts of 2021, this meeting will be conducted via remote means. Members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so by the link on the Town website. No in-person attendance of members of the public will be permitted, but every effort will be made to ensure that the public could adequately access the proceedings in real time via technological means. In the event that we are unable to do so for reasons of economic hardship and despite best efforts, we will post the session on the Town website as an audio or video recording, transcript, or other comprehensive record of the proceedings as soon as possible after the meeting. So let me correct myself that members of the public are able to access the meeting by the Zoom link where they would be able to enter this meeting with us. Thank you all. I always bungle that, Matt. I'm sorry. It's just not my thing. Oh, go ahead, Cody. I have a question. I have a work meeting at six, but will we still be at court or? Yes, I think so. We have seven of us here. So appreciate you being able to join us to start. Yes, Eleanor. All right. I just want to make a similar thing. I think I have to head out at 6.20 to make something by 6.30, but hopefully. Okay. And what about you, Sylvia? Are you heading out for the same thing? Yeah, I do have something different, but I need to head out at 6.30, but I don't know if we would have a quorum then. So I can't be late to that thing if need be. No, we're not asking you to. Okay. Well, then we have our work to do to see just how many of these we can go through. Cody, did you have another question? No. Okay. Thank you. So we need to do our audio test. So, Cody, we heard you. You heard us. Can you just say, hey? Hey. Thank you. Matt, audio test for you. Here. Okay. Sylvie. Hello. Eleanor. Hi. Christy. Hello. Hello. And Rachel. I'm here. Wonderful. Okay. Thank you all. Unless somebody has something else urgent, I suggest we get right back to the deliberation. Yes, Eleanor. One quick thing just so I can take notes before I leave. Was there an agenda shared for today or is it in the folder maybe that was sent? So, Eleanor, for the for the deliberation meetings, all you need for the notes is just to say ongoing deliberations with the date and the attendance. So what we actually do is we do one single document typically. And in that document, you know, you do the date and the attendance and then just say like ongoing deliberation of grants. So we just know who is there when. Okay. And ongoing document you mean for like every single deliberations meeting. Yeah. That's usually we just wind up posting. And if Angela needs to separate it out, she can. But that's the easiest way just because these meetings, we don't contain every last little nuance of the discussion. Should I create one or should I just go into the folder? You could probably just go off the one that you started last week. Okay. Cool. We'll do. And I will remove all of the more nuanced notes. Sounds good. Yeah. That's good practice for future meetings, but not for these. Sure thing. Thanks. Okay. Rachel, are you ready? Okay. The one urgent thing that I have, and I've had some things come up over this last week, is that I still have not gotten back to everybody about a potential date other than the 14th, where we really want to find a date for the voting meeting when everybody can potentially attend. Now, Christy, I think you're out of the country maybe before then, right? I'm traveling. Was it in December? I'm back. I just Tuesday nights. I can't do. But I am back. I'm back. Okay. And then, so you're potentially available later than the, than December 14th. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Yep. I mean, I'm, yeah, and this all has to be done before January 1st, right? Even before that, because we really need to get any denials out roughly, you know, buy around the 21st-ish because they have an appeal process. So we, sometime, kind of between like the 14th and, I mean, as soon as possible after that, we need to get done. At the same time, we have several college students. So we're, that's right at the end of your semester. So does anyone know when you're fully done with exams at UMass and Emerson College? I mean, I could look that up, but I haven't. I think for us, it's the 21st or Emerson College. Great. So we are going to have to do this right in the middle of your stuff there. Mm-hmm. December 15th is when everything's done at UMass? Yeah. Okay. Eleanor and Sylvie, could you send me some sort of availability for that, you know, sometime in between, I don't know, let me look at a calendar real quick. Any time from the 11th through, let's call it like the 18th of December of, you know, something that might work for you. And you too, Cody, please. Yeah. I can look at that. Yeah. Yeah. Something between, yeah, the 11th and the 18th, and then we'll try to shoehorn something in there. Okay. Thank you all. And likewise, anybody else if you, you know, have conflicts or whatever, want to let me know the 11th to the 18th? Okay. Got it. Okay. All right. So if everyone can email me, then I can get, consolidate all that and get a concept and come back and try to check with you guys for or put a doodle or pull around up around that. Great. Thank you all. Sorry to take time for that. Okay. So you want me to time? I'm just going to just give you just a second here. The last one that we properly kind of got through was well, we got through the Arcadia players and I felt like we ran out of time, I guess, on George Baker and his two events. Other than, I guess, we said that we were going to go back to him. So I think there was nothing more to discuss on that. Is that correct? Yep. Okay. All right. Go ahead, Rachel, because we will start with Carol Baldwin, who is offering Quilting 101 at the Jones Library. Right now the date is just 2024. She is has a $200 budget and she's asking the cultural council for 200. So it's a quilting program for folks that are interested in how quilts are made, but also the history of quilting in the US. And it's an opportunity for people to try doing kind of a small example piece of quilt work that they can take home with them. And Julianne, what number are we on? Sorry, because I couldn't be here. Could you tell me where we are? Yeah. So this is number 15 in the sequence, right? Can you find it? Sorry, if you're giving me a thumbs up, I can't see. What's the name of the project? It's Quilting 101. Okay. I'll find it. No, but I will. I will. I'll find it. Yeah, it's in the order on the Excel chart, the sequence number, it's number 15. And in the book, I don't have the page number because we didn't do this. All right. So we're running out of time here on this one. Is there anyone who champions this and wants to fully fund it or anyone who has any issues with it? Yes. I would like to fully fund it. I think it's a great project. We've funded her in the past and had nothing but good outcomes that I'm aware of. So I'm full support of it. In general, I would like to fully fund it, but I am concerned with no date. And I don't think I saw a letter of support from the Jones. It's good that you recall that she's done stuff for us before and it went well. I'm just double checking that though because I'm not seeing it last year actually. What are you checking? That I'm remembering correctly. I remember the application from the past, but I don't remember what we had decided on it. Yeah, she was great before. She did a lot of accessibility work. Anyway. Okay. So I think is there anyone who does not want to fully fund this provided that we could satisfy that it will happen and that the Jones supports it? Okay. Can we move on? All right. The next one is Cynthia Barrett is applying for reading and singing for Emma and Belly sister detectives a bilingual book. There's no date for this. This would be at the Jones library. And we've had prior applications here. And so I'm going to just summarize because there's probably a bit of a discussion here. So this is a family that's written a bilingual book in Mandarin English and the children have written it. And I believe it was self-published. And now that it is published, they would like to do an event at the Jones. And as the authors of the book with the kids dressed in detective outfits, and then they're going to read both in English and in Chinese. And then after this is all done, they would have a craft session to make an Asian craft, maybe origami or do calligraphy or something like that with the students who attend. And they might have some giveaway items like magnifying glasses and stickers or mustaches along the detective theme. And is there anyone who would like to champion this or has any concerns? I'll go ahead that I'd like to champion this one and that it's for $100. It is an actual cultural event that is in two languages. If I guess it being cool is in Chinese because, you know, English. But in the past, we certainly are not, when we've deliberated before, we weren't in the position of thinking that we necessarily are there to fund people who want to self-publish a book. But I think that this is something that's happening in Amherst, kids in Amherst and this multicultural and, you know, supporting young authors. Yes, Cody? And with the whole day, see, almost one of the, the John's Library is trying to see what events will happen. So they can give out dates. So I'd be mindful that it may be not the oldest fault that there's no date. So you're saying that in some cases it's hard for the Jones to give them a date because they don't know if they're going to get the funding. So we've got a chicken and an egg thing. I mean, we do need dates for events, but as far as this goes, you know, I think it is exactly the kind of thing that the Jones would bring in and they've made it this far with the book. So I'm really, actually really pleased that we can do something to endorse that it has been a great project all along and now it meets our criteria. So it's just $100. Is there anyone who would not support fully funding it? I really appreciate you saying that because we, you know, in the past, actually two years, I believe that they come in, you know, with the book in progress and it's kind of like we couldn't support it. And I agree with you. I think now they've got it done and they want to do something for kids and it's, you know, it's a small grant. I support it. I also share Cody's concern. In addition, the Jones may not be super available, you know, next year. But, you know, there will be, there's the Munson, there's the North, the North Amherst Library, Jones will have an alternate location. So, you know, I, if it wasn't $100, I would say that maybe ask them to go talk to the Jones about an alternate venue. But I think, you know, they've shown good faith here. Yeah, I'm right there with you. Yeah. And, you know, it's still on everyone who's getting a direct grant to complete the event and to amend and modify and all of that with us as they go along if they need to make changes. So again, at $100, you know, it's, I think we're in good shape to support them with this. Any other comments? Great. Okay. The next event is the Gathering, and this is Kia and Key and Company Community Hip Hop Workshop. And Shakia Baron is the applicant. They are asking for $2,000 of their $2,550 budget. And this is a company of dancers led by the key, who's Shakia Baron. And they're going to produce a free community workshop to focus on sharing dance form of hip hop through interactive education and performances and created greater community. The workshops consist of 80-minute movement experience at an outdoor location and it's open design for participants of all ages and they get led through the dance movements while receiving cultural and historic context about the origins of hip hop dance. And there'll be some exciting performances and it will conclude the chance for participants to perform alongside the company members showcasing what they've learned. And just a wonderful celebration of culture through music and dance. And the location for this is Scruff Park and it is scheduled, I guess at some point in August 2024, I don't recall if there were specific dates for this. I didn't see one either. Okay. Is there anyone who'd like to champion this? I guess we all share the concerns about the date. I'm poor in college. When I looked at it, one of the things is that Amherst Recreation is a potential sponsor. So that gives me more confidence in it. If we had lots of money, I think it's exactly the kind of thing that we should fully fund, given that the stipend amounts are very low when you get into the details of this grant application. So it's supporting a lot of artists and there's a lot of public benefit. It is also a big ask for us at the moment, but it's all right here in Amherst. And I think with Amherst Rec, potentially behind it, I mean, if they were fully behind it, I don't know that we'll have all of the funds for it, but I think it's a great project. Yeah, I really like the audience physical involvement. I like that it's like an exercise thing too. I think that's cool for us as a council to be supportive. All right, so we would fully fund it if we could. I love everything about it. Hopefully, this is just early grant, a weird pattern, but really, this should have a letter of support. When you're calling in partners like that, it really isn't too much more work to just ask them to give a letter. And we've kind of set a precedent that we have some discretion if we want. Like I would say if we're considering making, if we have funds available to give them a large award, and I agree, I love the proposal and everything about it, but if we have funds available to even fully fund it or close to it, I think we may want to actually consider asking them to go and get some of those partnerships in place. So I'm just putting that out there as a thought. I agree. Decide right now. Yeah. I mean, I think that's true for anything that's getting to be a sizable amount of money, period. Yeah, they have to satisfy the criteria. Everybody really has to, but you know. Okay. Any other comments? Are you there, Rachel? We haven't run over on anything yet? No, we have just over 30 seconds on this one. Okay. Let's keep going then. So then we have the, I'm going to say this wrong, so I'm just going to use the abbreviation, the VDFS Projects, which is at the field station. It's the application is Kristy Vasekker, and they are asking for $5,500 of their $5,500 budget, and this is an arts and science project that is set to be to begin in 2024 and end in 2027. So I'm going to just jump ahead on this one and say that I don't believe that we can fully, that we can fund this one at all. Is there anyone who wanted to champion it before I raise my concerns? No. Okay. So the fact that it runs from 2024 to 2027, and any of our grants projects must be completed by December 31st of 2024, means it does not meet our criteria. And at the same time, it doesn't even have a location. So it's a really big ask. It's about, 10% of our budget. And it strikes me also as being more of a concept and not really a concrete project or event. So I will open it up for any other comments. I would say this doesn't meet our criteria. Yes, Matt. Well, we could still collect a final report on activities done over a year. So I'm not sure that I'm ready to rule it out. It certainly wouldn't feel comfortable giving them a denial letter on saying that for that reason. So I think that's a concern until we could factor in if we did decide to fund it. I just Googled this because this Word document is not very eye-opening. It's not clear that this is a real thing. But if you Google the Verde Field Station, they have a very robust website with portfolios and links and all kinds of things that they've been doing. So it's a case where, can I share my screen? Yeah, you're a co-host. I wish people would sort of give me the initiative to give us a link. But the truth is, there is quite a bit of content on here. So anyway, I'm not saying that I'm championing it by any stretch. I'm just saying that it does appear to be a legitimate thing. Yeah, I can see that it's legitimate. And I am a little stuck in this, that I'm happy to be stuck in it, that we bring public benefit year to year and we fund things year to year. And it's difficult to fund something when the public won't benefit until we don't know when precisely or exactly. Sylvie, I'm stumbling on my words. You go. Yeah, I don't feel like strongly about championing it, but I do think that it has kind of an element that other applications have not had yet. And also they did specifically talk about programming for neurodivergent students, which I do think is important. But they'd be like encouraged to, I don't know, narrow in on something specific, like a project or an event or something that like, it just seems more like they didn't know what our guidelines were totally. Well, frankly, looking at the website and seeing how sophisticated it is, it's a little frustrating to me that the grant wasn't a tighter grant because I would assume that there are certainly folks there that have that skill set and perhaps it got passed to someone there who doesn't do this. Yes, Cody. Oh, thank you. Yeah, of course. Thanks so much. Bye. Any other comments? There's certain people here I'd really like to what are other folks thinking? Time's up. All right, that one we'll have to come back to. Thank you all. I can get a lot more thought. That's good for that one. The next grant is a feature film by Gabriel Bernini. It has a date of being November 1st, so it happened, I guess, yesterday in Amherst, and they're asking for $2,000 other $2,000 budget. So in this case, they've received some grants already for past film projects. And their last grant funded is film thesis at Hampshire College, and he's had a lot of growth in his creative career and because of these grants. And he has been living in Los Angeles, and he recently moved back, and he's shooting his debut feature, and he's raised some funds for the project. He's doing some crowdfunding, and there's some private investment in grant writing, and he's trying to get his crew flown out for this fall shoot, and the cast includes a few different actors and comedians from a group called Simple Town at Blood Barn Film. And is there anyone who'd like to champion this one or who has concerns? I don't think he can come to us with the film so undeveloped. I mean, a PG-13 thriller, what does that mean? You know, I don't know enough about the, I don't feel like there's enough about what the project is. Yeah, there's, I'm concerned that there's no location, although apparently unless he meant November 2024, otherwise it happened yesterday. So I don't know how the public can access it. Yeah, so I'll speak, I'll speak, because I just, I clicked on the the link that he put in the thing, right? You know, I just took a second to Google just real quick, Blood Barn Film. So they're in a fundraising phase for this. I think this is actually an interesting question that we haven't wrestled with before, which is, you know, they, they have to raise, they don't have to raise all of their funds to start shooting. So I mean, there's, you know, there's an interesting, they're in an interesting place right here. And it's where direct granting makes it a little bit more, you know, there's a little bit more at stake for us to just turn over the cash. You know, so they've raised, they have a $35,000 goal, but they've already raised $4800 of it, according to the website that I'm looking at. And the website isn't fully developed, you know, there's not a lot of information there. But that's what, you know, that's how movies are, is, you know, their early concept going around and trying to raise funds. I think the challenge for me would be to fund something that it feels almost impossible, you know, highly unlikely that we'll see a finished product, you know, going back to your, your concern of the last one, Julianne, it certainly won't be finished in a year. And I think that's, you know, that's okay if that's built into the proposal, you know, they can, they can certainly send us documentation that they spent the money well, and that would be okay. So, I mean, just what you're saying, their documentation that they spent the money well, but how do I tie that money spent to actual public benefit? But in this case, you know, if they're raising funds, you know, and there's no actual thing happening or any way to deliver this. So, I don't think we're in a position to be able to give funds that aren't directly tied to local public benefit. Well, what's, what do they give for a release date to actually play it? So, I'm in here right now. They, they said that the event date is November 1st, 2023. I know I saw that. In Amherst without a location. And they don't give any other sort of target release date anywhere? No. And he's talking about, he'll invite the actors and crew that they've met in LA in New York to their hometown to create this. He also said that he's trying to get the funds to fly them here. That's not in the budget, but we certainly can't support flying folks here. So, the budget is for production, sound mixer and camera and light rentals, but I see nothing, nothing about what would actually happen with this locally. On a specific day or place. Time's up. Okay. Are we, is there anybody who thinks this meets our criteria? I'm not ready to rule it out. I'll put it that way. I think it's something we should come back to. I'm not, I'm not ready to support it. That's for sure. But, but I think we should think about it. Okay. All right. I know we just have a few more minutes left. So, the next one is is an application from the Black Business Association of Amherst area and it's still, we rise Black Celebration Series. It will occur this year starting December 26th and into the New Year's Day in Amherst. They're asking for $10,500 of their $10,500 budget. This series is for Kwanzaa and also Black History Month forums on art and culture in February 2024 and also for the Juneteenth at the park. And it's initiative of the Black Business Association of Amherst area to bring together leaders from the community who have been organizing these traditions at a grassroots level for the town of Amherst for decades. And they hope to establish these traditions to ensure enjoyment, upliftment, education, and community building for many years and decades to come. So it is a large ask. It is all happening here in Amherst and I'm sorry for the dates. Yeah, it's actually three dates. The December event for Kwanzaa, the Black History Month event for February, and then the Juneteenth event that's upcoming June. Is there anyone who would like to champion this event, this grant? Anyone who has concerns they want to share? Well, we have run into these quite a bit where folks have energy towards events, but there's and there's a lot of TBDs, you know, what artists, you know, at what rate the budget is is kind of sort of speculative at this point. That being said, you know, I think that is sometimes how event planning goes. So I don't want to rule it out out of hand because I realize that, you know, there are there are artists and musicians out there who can be found. I mean, I guess there's there's some precedent for, you know, an event organizer, like Juneteenth, we've done Juneteenth in the past, getting funds from us and then distributing it as they, you know, as they see fit to some degree. But, you know, obviously, we would want to see more details in terms of how, you know, who's the money going to and how much and, you know, what rate. Yes, structurally, I feel like we're stepping into something that's kind of a monster of our own creation in that, you know, we are saying an organization can only apply once a year and they have to combine everything into one application. So what we have here is three events and so many of these are multi-day events. And if we'd had, you know, roughly a $3,000 request, you know, for each of them, you know, in that neighborhood and taking each one separately, it would be a different way of thinking about it. The big disconnect for me here is with these events, I don't know that they're, since it's collaborative, I'm not quite sure who's owning it and really ensuring that the event happens because these funds to me seem like they're additional support for a larger event but not entirely discreet events in and of themselves. Is anyone else getting that kind of thing that they're, which is, I mean, we want collaboration, that's great, but who's actually responsible? Is this group fully responsible that each of these events happens 100%? The buck stops there with them or? Well, I think that they would be the, maybe this might be different than your question, but the BBAAA would be the, you know, fiscal entity that would distribute these, you know, they would form these contracts with these funds. So there's no, but I think you're saying like, you know, we already have a Juneteenth celebration on the common that is, that, you know, Jen Moisten in the town, you know, funds. So, but I actually don't know if BBAAA has contributed funds to that in the past nor Kwanzaa. It's a fair question, but I think it's just taking on the face of it, you know, we've got one fiscal agent, they're a nonprofit, you know, and that that sort of satisfies the control of the money aspect of it, which is not exactly you're asking, I don't think. Yeah, I mean, just from the point of view of like getting to the end final report, for instance, will this group have the information to give an end final report for all of this stuff? You know, will they have all that information? I think they will. Yeah, I think so. I mean, if they give the money from us, nobody else but them can, you know. Any other comments? Where at time? Yeah, I'm, yeah, I figured we're going to have to come back to this when I marked that it timed out, you know. Okay, I know that we are tight on time, and I think I'm going to about lose two of you very soon. So our next one is the Worcester Equitarian Field Trip and Blessed Sacrament School is applying for it for May 16, 2024. They're asking for $1,850 and of their $1,850 budget for second, first and second grade to go to Worcester Equitarian for a field trip and to learn about animals. And I am going to say I don't believe that this meets our funding criteria at all. It's not in Amherst. They've made no case for how this has anything to do with Amherst and we, and they're not coming to Amherst. They're going to Worcester. So I'm not quite sure why they applied. Is there anyone who believes this does meet our criteria in any way? No, I do not. I was also curious, like, if it had been an Amherst field trip, would we fund that? Like, if it was... We do with the public school, but as a Catholic school kid myself, you know, this sounds like a parochial school to me, which leaves it as not really being accessible to the public in the same way. Yeah. I also not that this is even relevant if we're saying no to it, but I was confused about the cost of participation also and yeah, about a lot of it. I think it just doesn't meet our criteria. My guess is if we really wanted to do the research, they probably applied to a lot of different councils, hoping to just get some money, but it does not meet our guidelines. All right, where are we with time? Can we do the next? Yeah. Amherst, okay. So the next is the Center for Human Development applying for an all-in end-of-year recital. It's a dance performance for June 15th, and it's at the Braumery Center at UMass. They are asking for $3,000 of their $3,000 budget, and it is CHD's all-in barrier-free recreation program. They provide recreational activities for adults and children with disabilities, and this recital would be performed by the all-in dancers for the general public and the dancers' families, and they show the statistics show that one in four adults live with disability in America, yet few organizations provide accommodating forms of recreation that fit their needs. The all-in solution is something that many have been looking for, and it provides access to year-round programs like dance and rock climbing as well as seasonal activities, swimming, sled hockey, tailored to fit the participant's needs. Since we are close on time, I'd say that it's a large ask, but I would like to champion fully funding it, if at all possible. Is there any comments? Yep, yep, yep. Matt, I've got a pensive look on your face. Oh, no, I'm just reading the grant. I'm sorry. I'm just trying to... So, is it client? Are the clients part of the dance troupe? I'm assuming so. I'm just looking for the something. Yeah, yeah. Okay. But they participate in this all year round, and then this is... And we know it's... They deserve to have a wonderful space, like a performance space at UMass, like any other group, and to perform for their families. And I think it's great. It's fantastic. And I'd like to fully fund that. All right, I think we have two folks out the door, or... Yes, or I mean, maybe I can stay for part, but I would probably be more disruptive to leave in the middle of one. So, I do. I will go now, but thank you. Well, unless we can get through the Charlemont... Yeah, the next one is... I'll start the timer now for the next one. Is Charlemont next, or am I lost? Yeah, Charlemont's next. Okay. So, do we still have Eleanor? Okay. Charlemont Foundation is asking for $300 of their $1,900 budget. They are up in Charlemont. It's for their summer speakers series of 2024. I don't know if they list how many years they have done this, but they host these seminars where the public attend and can discuss a whole range of topics, and folks from Amherst do go up there and participate. And we've been funding them. They're not in Amherst, but I think it's a pretty exceptional series of topics that they cover. So, I would say to fully fund this, if at all possible. Is there anyone who does not support fully funding it or wants to discuss? Matt, you look like you have something. Yeah, I mean, I always support it. I feel bad, because this is literally the kind of thing that I would always go to, but Charlemont just feels like a little bit too much of a hike, and I've never actually made it in three plus years. So, I'll throw that out there. But I assume that some folks from Amherst do get up there. They bring in amazing caliber speakers, and I think the content's great, but I wouldn't be, if we had to partially fund it, that would be acceptable to me. It's a small ask, but still. Yeah. Well, it might come down to that. Exactly. Okay. I believe that it's all that we have time for, since it is 6.19, and you guys need to get where you're going on time. So, I appreciate everyone. Please email me about, you know, between the, what did I say, the 11th and the 18th, and if people pepper me with emails, I eventually will get back to you as soon as possible, hectic here with stuff. And I assume you'd want us to be looking at Tuesdays and Thursdays or any day of the week? Well, Christy can't do Tuesday. So, the goal is really to try to find a time at which we can all finalize this. It's the one session where we really do want everyone to have their vote counted. So, it's a tough one. What dates between December 11th and the 18th? Actually, I'm not looking at what our final. I'm done teaching by the 11th. Well, that's all very good. Let me just double check. Let me double check. We have a date right now already for the 14th. Do we not? That's good. But on the doodle poll, there really, there were several people who were conflicted and really couldn't come. So, I haven't finalized that last one. Oh, okay. So, sorry, put Tuesday back in the mix because I'm done teaching. Excellent. Okay. So, Tuesdays. Yes. Tell me all about Tuesdays. Eleanor and Sylvie. Okay. I will look at my planner tonight. Excellent. Well, I have a wonderful evening and thank you, everyone. It was good discussions. Appreciate it. All right. Take care. Bye. Bye. Good night. Julian, quick question. When you said the vote, everyone voting. Just one second. I need to stop recording it because we don't have a score.