 We got a special guest in there y'all today man she from California man and what I'm gonna get specific what part of California is uh set what is it Sacramento Sacramento Wow I'm a capital city chick say all the way to Dallas Texas this is our first time in Dallas y'all check it man check it man miss Martina aka hustle mom is going down in boss talk 101 today what's going on man I'm just in your beautiful city and um this is the first time I've been in Dallas and uh you know um I'm just wanting to you know see some more of Dallas I haven't been doing anything but um you haven't turned up yet I haven't turned up yet I've been just taking care of business going to Austin for that one event they had side by side with yes and um you know coming here to boss talk exactly you know boss talk 101 what a bosses talk yes and um me and Ken you know pimpin ken and um we're doing a podcast called a view from the game shout out and um so that's what I'm here for too you know we're going across country and um getting a view from a game from different you know divisions and different you know cities with different cultures but what we do have in common is this ism and um you know changing your life over and transitioning that's the main thing about our show you know people that's been in the game and transitioning to something else because you can't do this forever and ever and ever you know it's in you not on you but you know it it it it you know it it it it expires I got it so I know when we were in um New Jersey we interviewed with you which that's coming out soon but we want to get more in depth with what we were talking about and I know when you said um you started out in this lifestyle what you started out seeing was your brothers right so how old were you when you decided that you wanted to do this and then how did you step out and get your first um p is that first pimp okay the first pimp how old were you when you actually did that and how did you I was 20 you were 20 I was 20 years old like I've been new about the game but I've been like you know breaking on boys and breaking on dudes and all that but actually like activating my horn and hitting a concrete hitting the concrete going to a red light district actually selling my body I was 20 years old it was June 1st 1985 you know the exact date I know it was a Saturday night in San Francisco and it was live but you said one of your brothers were sort of like protected because in the story you told you said that whenever he was coming to the house y'all would run inside and put on like longer pants and stuff like that when you were a teenager I'm grown I was 17 so 20 I'm grown I wish your mother would tell me something you know I'm grown grown I had a baby okay you know what I'm saying my brother's cross country okay doing their own thing and I decided to get down with the get down so like when I was younger yeah we were scared of our brother you know what I'm saying like strict like do right in school do this do that but I'm a 20 year old woman working at the post office sorting mail wasn't making enough money and it wasn't making enough money and I needed a rainbow bright bedroom set for my beautiful little daughter okay and I just went it started on the weekend and it just was like full blown once you get that money how much money did you made that first time the first night I made $500 and I was with a white girl named Kim she had blue eyes and uh blonde hair and this um Italian girl named Terry but like I said before in one of my interviews I don't think that my night would have turned out that spectacular had I been by myself or with some other black girls and that's not knocking black girls I'm saying white girls can get in places where other people can't and then I'm with I'm a cute black girl I'm with the Italian girl and a blonde girl we looking like a girl group you know what I'm saying are Charlie's angels and it was no I'm denying us you know what I'm saying anybody any trick to see this you know they giving us what we wanted how did you choose your pimp how did I choose my pimp because you end up with them so you end up with their pimp no no no no so you just walked out on the track and be like this is what I want to do that night you didn't have a pimp that night I wanted I wanted no I didn't okay so you did not have a pimp no I went out with them and I turned out but they did have a man but he was like a dope boy oh yeah so I was out there when I was out there on the track I ran into a real pimp and you know like he wasn't no dope dealer he wasn't selling dope he was straight getting it from the womb and his name was Curtis Good up out of Berkeley California wow yeah and he was up the nest pimp real calm real mellow he wasn't you know beating women and you know really calm talk to you because you knew about the game so you knew what to look for what not to look for and all of that I liked him okay but okay so he got really sick and he died so he was your first pimp he was my first so you chose him or he choose you I'm how pimp choose you I don't know I don't think that's not how we go I don't know I'm asking he spent his pimpin at me okay and I chose up you chose okay got a man a pimp don't choose choose choose up me I choose damn okay I mean choose up he turn up you know what I'm saying because I was talking to somebody earlier and I was saying for y'all what you you call me green because I don't know a lot of stuff about you know the business and stuff like that and I only know from what I see on TV and when I see pimps or hoes or anything like that what I do see I see whether them being controlling them if you step out of place they might beat you they might this that you know but somebody's telling me it's not always like that it's not like that that's is like TV you know and that's where you feel you see these imposters you know they're not real pimps these imposters they watch those same shows you watch and they do that to bitches and then give them a bad taste and they mouth about the game because they didn't ran across an imposter but real pimping real pimping ain't gonna do that you know what I'm saying real pimping gonna make you a better bitch and that's what I know you know what I'm saying I was raised around it and how does that make you better because then a couple things that I was some bitches don't know what to do like I seen a lady that lived down the street from me she was a big fat brunette white girl and I seen her a year later she was skinny and she had blind hair I said bitch pipping being good to you I mean she been on all the whole strolls that bitch lost all that weight she was looking good she did something for her family to pimp you know helped her you know I'm saying put her in school she would have never made all those you know I'm saying endeavors she would have never completed all these endeavors that she have achieved in her life still go to school and do all that stuff yes if you got a good one okay it's not dead I'm just gonna look you guys in the eye pimping ain't dead it's just some imposters out there okay you know and I'm not telling girls to go out there and choose and all that I'm not condoning that because I'm retired right I'm retired if a motherfucker come up with some big old money you know I'm taking it you know what I'm saying but then I'm dusting them whole wheels off but then the first night when you were out there by yourself and you got the $500 that went straight to you by myself I was with the girls so you still had to share that money with the girls no no no no they was helping me but that I mean I went by my daughter but all that $500 go straight to you it was me it was me but then when you have a pimp you got to pay him or give him the money right sure do okay so every last cent every last cent every last cent because what he does he pays your bills he he takes care of you he pays get your hair done when everything like people likes feel like oh that's your money that he's doing this with okay but like I got with like Kenny Redd he had hella bitches like when I got with Kenny Redd I wanted to be a part of his organization it was dangerous but it was exciting you know and I seen how his bitches looked and I seen how he handled his business so I chose him upon those qualities and I and you had a pimp I another pimp at that time you left him and went to Kenny I left him and went with Kenny but he got sick and he passed away the first dude Kurt died you know rest in peace Kurt is good up out of Berkeley man you know but yeah so that's how I got with Kenny so when I got with Kenny I was a ready made bitch I had my own car on crib you know I'm saying and he liked that so I had all everything first everything I was a ready made bitch you know I can get my car and go where I want to jump in the plane go cross country you know I'm saying and be on and Matty you know so it wasn't like you know when I got with Kenny or I helped Kenny with his you know me and him were like together you know I'm saying and and how long you were with Kenny for I was with Kenny for about like seven years seven years okay yeah Kenny has shit already I had stuff already you know I'm saying we build you know but no so because I'd be like okay so what's the difference between having a pimp compared to you just have a husband or boyfriend or something because he a boyfriend or a husband he still will pay for your hair done your nails done pay the bills do all of that sort of stuff so what's the difference except from that's what pimp is pimp is your boyfriend your daddy your grandpa except you're going out here and sleeping with other men yeah and you're using you're using condoms so you so like a square would not have no understanding okay but a pimp is gonna love you to death you know you know you use condoms prostitutes are the most cleanest females in the world that's what I was wondering because you know we are so clean okay like we keep our kuchi wax you know we wear the best of the best we smell and use condoms with everybody everybody I mean even with a jackoff you know what I'm saying like we ain't touching it all prostitutes do I mean real ones okay like some of them out there doing something strange for some change but with your pimp you don't what use of condoms no but then that same pimp is also sleeping with his other whole suit and that's why I used to make sure all my wife laws and that's what you call them wife and laws wife and laws go to the clinic but it ain't like the pimp well I know my pimp ain't just running up in the bitch soon as he get her you know what I'm saying like you gotta give a pimp some money first before they get to get to go inside of them right and a lot of guys they break those rules like they see the bitches she's so pretty and fine and thick and the first thing they want to do is have sex with them and then then guess what she she gone like Susie Wong she didn't ran off she didn't got what she wanted she did test it she didn't seen it she didn't got it what am I staying here for have you ever seen where um like I'm gonna give Kenny read an example but and it may not ever happen to you but all the holes he had and say he was sleeping with all of them um do they ever get jealous of each other um they probably do but they better keep it to themselves and Kenny read also because he didn't play that jealousy stuff and me I'm a different type of woman that they were green like you know I was exposed to this so you know I knew how this goes like I just see my brothers with they women and how they got alone and they better not ask no questions or anything like that so my man my mentality was always you know with this ism so I think different than other people let me ask you this um when you you guys it's a structure you you hear the term bottom bitch you hear the type term first second string third string like explain that to to the listeners right like like because I'm green just give us a spiel on uh kind of kind of how they go okay a bottom bitch is a bitch that's been there the longest that's been there that is you know it's like the top of the um cream of the crop right you know and she's been there the longest she's been through everything you know then it's like first string second string third string like third strings is kind of like fly by night they they're just there and here and gone you know what I'm saying first strings is the ones that's gonna be there through thick and thin that's been there like how was McKinney or like my wife laws have been there for four and five years them are first strings you know I'm saying we starters we get into the money you know what I'm saying and this then the second strings that want to elevate to become first strings you know I'm saying it's just different levels you know I'm saying it's just if you want to level up bitch and you know what I'm saying to be a starter you know what I'm saying get your money up you know what I'm saying and get your get your get you just level up what's the most money you've ever made for candy ready one night in one night um probably I don't know about like 10,000 wow 10,000 man I mean and I gotta ask you this man because there's something that you know this there's a big umbrella when it comes down to pimping and holding the best thing going when you think about Las Vegas is that the best place to get money it's you can get money at the grocery store in the frozen food section you know what I mean like you can get money wherever it is like I'm a professional like I know how to look at a man and can tell he big tricking or he big police you know what I'm saying or he big pimping you know what I'm saying I can tell you can tell you know what I'm saying you can get money wherever you go if you a raw bitch like meh you know what I'm saying I can freelance I can get the carpet I can get the concrete shit I can get money in a board room meeting you know but just like I hear some pimps say um you don't strive to pimp forever so with a hoe I'm sure you don't try try to be a hoe forever you want to fucking for free okay I don't give a fuck I'm never fucking for free so I'm not gonna wait till I get this old and be like oh I'm gonna decide to fuck for free no I'm not hoeing forever but I'm gonna be a hoe I'm gonna keep them whole ways drop your books lose your lessons and I'm not dropping my books but I'm not never having sex for free even if I get married if my husband don't do right by me I'm turning my back on him and you understand if your husband don't do right you ain't giving him no punani 90 90 and you deserve it not like you're being a spoiled brat or whatever I earned this I worked for this but when you're with a pimp are you allowed to have a boyfriend hell to the motherfucking all to the no no no I don't know because I'm like oh my god this is so funny no okay voted okay to that man to that man right okay and any bitches out here with these boyfriends and them are imposters boyfriend pimps and whole bitch like I heard that that expression oh this is my whole bitch where's the whole bitch was she my girlfriend but she my whole too man is she your whole or is she not right because there's nothing wrong with being a whole like I said holes is they clean they smell good they're loyal you know what I'm saying and whole is short for hooker people use the word so loosely a whole is not a bad word slut that's a bad word okay slut you doing this shit for free you know I'm saying you a throat baby you know whole is a classy word to me I think it's the top of the food line because when I was hearing um when I was like miss america to me holes is the shit because when I was hearing about pimps and how some pimps if you are top I'm gonna say top notch pimp um you're supposed to be almost like setting a 401k up for your hoe you putting money to the side to make sure that when she done so to say not every bitch you gotta treat bitches accordingly okay that would be your bottom one your bottom bitch that's been down with you that's the one you put something aside I went to retire even even you got some money even if it's one that's been there after your bottom bitch like the bitches that are down it's just not about a bottom bitch it's about the bitches that are down for you that you've seen have been down with you when things were tough she stayed down when things was up she stayed down this bitch deserves something I'm gonna make sure this bitch got something she had made me you know looked out for me I didn't bought my mom my house I didn't like how you know Rome was talking about like a bitch been down with me and Rallo that's why I just love Rallo the pimp you know what I'm saying because he keeps it so real so Rallo the pimp shout out to Rallo the piss amp man let me tell you something now he is the type that was gonna make sure his female got everything you know what I'm saying because a bitch is a reflection of her man right how you gonna just get everything from this woman and not do anything for her and how a bitch gonna stay around and let somebody do her like that because I'm not staying around for that that's real that's yeah I'm not staying around for that we in this together it's us you know what I'm saying we are a family even if I got other wife laws that bitch called them I put a blanket on her that bitch you want to eat she gonna grab my feed that bitch because guess why because she with my man and we're paying the same man and so she's very important I gotta ask you this and you don't have to give me too much detail on it but I know losing Kenny Red was a devastating loss like just give me some understanding of how big of a loss it was and how much it changed your life Kenny will always be an essential part of my life I haven't been with him for like 25 years but we always was friends you know so who I really feel bad for is the female who just was with him and made a meal for him you know I really feel bad for her I have a lot of empathy and sympathy for her and it's so unfair you know because everybody see me and think oh Kenny Red Kenny Red you know um I feel real bad that Kenny Red died we got a lot of things we were we were trying to do we were trying to do a movie a lot of things and I feel so awful that he was just took away from us like that you know what was one of the last things that he he said to you well we did our last interview together yeah um with software underbelly and then I did no jumper with the sharp tank and he was so proud of that interview you know what I'm saying so that was the last time I communicated with Kenny and um my interview with the sharp tank no jumper the coolest podcast in the world yeah you know guys shout out shout out to sharp they've been they they actually been breaking up there's some stuff going on yeah sharp yeah I'm so proud of sharp I've been seeing him you know just evolve but um he put the interview out August 11th and Kenny died September 6th wow and I was just so happy that he was able to see that interview and to get my poem that I wrote him I wrote a poem called Kenny Red hey it's hard man I wrote him a poem and he loved it he laughed because um that's one thing Kenny really loved about me because I had an opinion and I kept him laughing and I was funny and effervescent all the time like and uh he said it I'm one of his favorite hoes and I'm very privileged to even had paid his pimping you know what I mean you guys might not understand that as being squares but it was a privilege to pay Kenny Red's pimping one time man to all the 16s and the 304s out there y'all feel me though you know yeah so when you think about Kenny Red like um you know what do you think that he would want for you like right now he would want for me to be walking in a fashion week he will want me to be acting he will want me to be on big platforms like this one doing my thing you know the marathon still continues he would want me to be a consultant director for the movie so we can get him right like if you ain't playing Kenny Red right or playing me right then wait I need to be there like no bitch ain't how you say it say it like this or this is how you say it but yeah um I want Kenny movie me and Kenny's movie to come out it's going to be better than Ike and Tina Turner's most definitely wow so you think it's going to be better it's going to be way better than Ike and Tina Turner that's big man let me say something who would play Kenny Red if you had somebody to play Kenny Red who you think could play him in like my friend you know just like Kenny wow and you know who I want to play me who stunner girl because she was like real hypey yeah yeah when I was younger and I was on that concrete yeah I was I was I was I was getting money I was beating bitches ass like bitch don't get it twisted don't let this cute cute face fool you stunner girl remind me so much of me when I was younger when I was in my 20s and then when I got in my 30s and got refined sweetie reminds me of me and now that I'm older Tina Lawson ah if I can get them three to play a movie with you could go all the way to the top but all right you've been thinking about exactly I've been manifesting a young Martina could be stunner girl though when Martina left Kenny and developed madam that could be sweetie and then Martina now Tina Lawson see that would be a challenge for Tina Lawson you know she got her husband yeah actor you know to play an ex prostitute Tina if you're watching Tina Lawson everybody always say I look like you girl so I think that um you should make your day view being hustle mom Martina hey so um you were you said about a madam a while ago and one thing I've always wondered for ladies who are hosts for a long time why not turn around and be a pimp after that because we don't have a dick see this is what everybody needs to know a woman cannot I repeat cannot be a pimp now girls are players too and you may can be a Mac master in the art of communication but you cannot I repeat you cannot be a pimp no woman can ever be a pimp I don't care if she is stood I don't care what you are you cannot be a pimp if you don't have a penis okay you could be a madam but you cannot be a pimp there's no ladies pimps that's a myth stop saying it as blasphemy what go ahead when you see these movies and you see the ladies portraying you know different things as if they got girls on them they're madams is that what you're saying that's what they are they're madams well they are straight up madams that's what a woman is a woman pimp a woman who procures dates a procure if you look it up if you google it a procure is one who gets clients for the ladies but in today's society where you have like a lot of studs or you have some females actually born females who are whether doing surgeries or you know we want to be addressed I don't care if you got a fake dingaling I don't care what you got if you wasn't born a man you cannot be a pimp that is that's against the rules it's a card no sin and other than having a penis what is it that a pimp does for their whole that a madam does not do well I know me when I was a madam I would get 60% and give 40 okay because when you take somebody's money you're taking their responsibilities you got you taking all their bills you're taking everything their person that I've been looking if I turn you on to a date for a thousand dollars give me my 600 take your four and get out my door so you're not paying their bills you're not doing that I don't even want to deal with that that's just too much pimping is hard it's hard and people think that um being a pimp you don't understand is easy they have to deal with all these different females personalities some females be crazy as hell and being a madam is hard also I don't want to deal with your your problems so just give me my service fee and I'll highlight you when you come back to work tomorrow and I'll see you on five more calls okay so who's meaner a madam or a pimp it depends on who the person is like you may find a pimp that's not mean you may you might find a madam that's mean as hell and just be talking shit to their girls and I'm not sending none of my girls know where I'm not going I'm not money hungry like that I'm not sending you to somewhere you know I'm not I'm not I'm not sending you to your dad because some madams are greedy they'll send a girl somewhere just to get that service fee man all money and good money I'm not sending nobody nowhere where I wouldn't go because I watched a movie once where um they try to send this girl to a trick but and that this trick was like well known uh uh amongst all the prostitutes that he'd be doing some crazy stuff to these hoes and she was crying she didn't want to go but he was forcing her to go the pimp the pimp because she gonna get raped abused I mean all sorts of stuff that's some sick shit that's on tv but because but that's on tv so it does not happen in reality I don't have any ill no no matter how much money tricks go by before I pick the one I want I'm sues I'm snooty my duty okay I don't take any trick I'll be like oh your nails dirty oh your breath snake no matter how much money well if it did depend on how much money you go you go getting that bathtub and soak now you got my time time is money money it's time so you give me a certain amount of money are you getting in this boiling water and I'm boiling you like some eggs but it was but I'm gonna date you you don't understand if you got that don't break me far so late team don't write if you're a trick though and you like some of these guys I've heard crazy stories and and I've seen different things where I talk to people that say well you know girls tell me like and he just told me that he'll tell me to go in there and and tell them to go clean it off and we just rob him like it'd be different cases where they don't always do the job well see I ain't never been involved in no low life stuff like that robbing clients tricks and you know what you heard of it though yeah it goes around off time but I'm not gonna be looking over my shoulder because they're gonna come back and get you right I had like I never was a thief and stuff but I started stealing when I got with Kenny red because he had thieves and stuff so I was like I'm about to learn how to steal too so I can go home and save my coochie for him you know what I mean so I had stole like 800 dollars from this trick and he's seen that I stole it and he did a bad kick and kick me in my mouth wow right here yeah that's that scar right there it's a scar and guess what I jumped in the cab went two blocks up got it sold up at this at the hospital st. Francis hospital in san francisco and guess what went back on the track to get a pimp money the father called Kenny and said oh my mouth got busted I want to come home but if I were to call my first folks he would have been like come on baby it was too different but Kenny red didn't play like that Kenny red didn't play that bitch go get my money and you like that better well it was just what it was I loved Kenny so whatever he said it was and that is that's that's the culture like if you really really down with your pimp when you out there and you you do exactly what he tells you because you know you got your better interest at heart he do I ain't never been left in jail but like little gag at google shit like that like Kenny would have been like girl if you don't get their lips sold up and go get my money and that's what I did I went got my lips stitched up and went back out to the track what did Kenny say when he seen you because he said I told him the next I told him when he seen me somebody said motherfucking kicked me in my lip he was like oh it wasn't nothing like oh I mean I like oh but damn you least you went got it you know taken care of but it went like oh baby oh god you're gonna stand at home for a whole week until it heals up no no he's gonna give me some near spore and some goddamn peroxide and be like bitch go get a pimp it's funny wow and that's what it is but it's because because when you're dealing with that lifestyle it comes with it not only comes with it come with it but you also used to live in a certain lifestyle when you're doing it so curious life so that lifestyle has to be afforded yes so you can't afford to say oh you live done is no you got to go get some money I know I got bills you got days off well sometimes I remember one time I went four years without a day off but not like straight working four years but like if the if the track was hot then you bitch you know can go in the house you know what I'm saying but it wasn't like a planned but four years straight yeah well you know my mom birthday I might fly and go see her or something like that but on holidays you know I didn't get on the whole strong Christmas shit I didn't got Christmas money from tricks all kind of stuff what's the most money you made in a month you probably would have a lot of money but these girls now these days they can't even go on a 30 day run like they can't go straight 30 days without you know just stacking their money they because they it's just it's just not the same but if you love Kenny Red so much why did you leave him why did I leave him because I got tired of getting pimped on in cold chili blood like I said sometimes you stop eating steak because it's not healthy for you you start eating chicken or eating fish that'll mean you hate the steak so I just I just got tired of getting pimped on so you went to another pimp no I was quit no I went to the nation of Islam I was looking for God okay so you went to the nation you thought going to like like Juma service I was going to MGT classes I was going to this meeting why the nation and not just Christianity or any other one because I'm a queen and I just want to know who I was you know what I'm saying because to me Christianity equals slavery to me you know what I'm saying and explain that because that's how they they they they kept slaves in check you know I get it I'm not gonna go there with you because you when you start talking about politics yeah it's a touchy because at the end of the day you just it's the way you taught if you taught a certain way and like you like to be led I see what you're saying you like to be led by what you believe in and and if you believe in it there should be a structure around and a culture of people that's going to lead you in the right direction and so you're saying that whole culture in the way that is being taught and the way you understand it causes you to be in slavery that's what you're saying you took the words right out my mouth are you still a Muslim right now um no I don't claim no nothing I'm just a child of the king okay you don't see I'm a spiritual child of God I don't want to be in no category you know what I mean I've done it I've been to the synagogue I've been to the mosque I've been to the church house you know and I have a relationship with God personally myself I like that and that's all that counts and that's really what counts is when you have a it's between you and God and I think a lot of times people can't live with that they so quick to to say this or say that because they're trying to figure out a way to cover up their insecurity and their belief right so for you for you to believe a certain way doesn't make me feel no less of a person than what I believe in when you're mature but most people are immature so they can't figure out how to deal with you because of how you feel about God because they don't trust what they feel and believe well they need to read Joshua chapter two they need to read Joshua chapter two and read about Rahab because I'm the modern day Rahab man hey I like that I like that a lot so um going back to just being on the track and and being a not just a track because I've been to the track to the concrete to the concrete to the concrete and when you say track you mean the train track for real oh no I'm green green so when people say in track I'm like okay you talking about a train track you don't know where the girls are where I took you down there and showed you where like well I didn't show you we was on here yeah yeah the same thing yeah like on Harry Heinz where they're all right yeah I love you so much like it open is east 14th you know okay every city got it different tracks and different cities you know because we keep saying track I'm thinking it was a train track I'm like they got a money train a little red train that good what I was trying to figure out was like when you when you're looking at that and you see the track and you see all the different levels um and you catch a what is when you got a renegade somebody who basically I just basically running around doing whatever you know no guidance with no guidance that what are y'all what do you explain that to me a renegade a renegade is a bitch that don't got no p.m. and I people talk down on renegades but I'm not gonna sit here and talk down on no renegade because she had to become a renegade because she had a sour apple she got a hold to a bad p.i. or an imposter and I feel like all renegades was gung-ho like was down like I'm ready for this I'm gonna be down for my man and they did something terrible to them you know fuck they money off or what's fucking other bitches are just doing something out of pocket not you know going by the rules and that's what made them a renegade they didn't just wake up and say I'm gonna be a renegade today no they had some bad pimping somebody pimping was stinking and that's what made her a renegade so I'm not gonna sit here and talk about no renegade bitches like oh I don't fuck with renegades and shit like that their renegade was a whole man she was a whole at first and she got miss pimped on and became a renegade do some renegades come back into the game of the year some of them do some of them can come back and they read you know go to rehabilitation they got whole rehabilitation also you know what I'm saying yeah you'd have been so out of pocket and just been doing such just okay just doing just everything renegades just doing everything until they meet the right folks that get them back on the right track like oh not on the track but on the right level on the right rhythm you know what I'm saying when y'all talking about guidance you know what I mean yeah I got you when y'all talking about track and then you talk about concrete then okay so let me ask what is the concrete concrete is the track the blade all that's the same thing all right and the carpet is like the casinos and you know going on escort calls okay to fancy houses and mansions so you do level up from just the track maybe everybody can level up you're tired of being on the on the street on the track you like waiting for somebody to call you and say okay meet me here go here and you're not really out there anymore is that how it goes that's carpet that's carpet right when you do when you're online and you're online dates calling you and booking with you you know what I mean like you know priceline.com you're booked up you're booked and busy yeah you know what I didn't realize like when we be in Vegas it's certain girls that said it those slot machines and the casino knows these people they know what they're doing and a lot of times they run them out they do the 86 them out of the oh that's right I've seen this I've been 86 what I've been 86 out of a bunch of whole we're laughing because a lot of times we'd be walking around like if we do walk the strip we'd be walking and we're like okay that's a hoe right you guys meet people watching yeah we meet people watching we know because you see yeah you can know you can tell she's slut you can tell she out for the weekend just to just that part you can it's all different people fly in to Vegas all the when conventions are going on they fly in just for that it's just hoeing jumping off in Vegas big hoeing that's what I'm saying that's why I was telling you like that's the Mecca right um I wouldn't say that but I would say it's the Mecca but so where is the Mecca then the Mecca I haven't found that yet that's the biggest place they said it's Dubai but I ain't going to be a quarter-party because I'm about to get shit and pissed on because that's what they're doing in Dubai they're shitting and pissing on these bitches wow and they're giving them $40,000 yeah they got money they're giving them $40,000 man so you wouldn't do that for $40,000 how much money it would take for somebody to shit and piss on me yes I'll kill him I'm not doing that that's like that's not even prostitution no more no that's selling your son yeah that's it that ain't even no good clean holy hoeing I gotta you don't stand a holy ho so okay so in today's society where because you've been doing this a long time you did this before social media right yeah I had a pager okay before soap on so but with social media when social media came in place how does social media work with her hoeing game I wouldn't know because that ain't my lane you know I don't do only fans and all that I didn't even have GPS I used to have to just like write it down on a napkin turn right there at the big red barn get off on this exit and then if you go right here you're gonna see a green tree turn here and then I have to make it to that trick's house because if not I'll have a dry run so I know how to follow instructions real good these girls wouldn't know what to do without their GPS yeah I had a pager and I have to stop at this telephone booth like superwoman have you ever had the like like once you was done with a trick had to call another trick to pick you up because that other trick was you know didn't have no way to get you back to the track but you know I got a pimp to pick me up when I got a trick okay so you can rob me after I didn't date the last trick oh he robbed it I mean I don't know what I'm going to treat folks that's what my pimp for so he gonna he'll do to me he'll pick it up he gonna pick me up he got a probably a flunky or somebody that's gonna an assistant pimp you know what I'm saying that's gonna you know pick me up if he can't you know what I'm saying somebody gonna reach out okay so um what is the okay you've heard a lot of lines from you heard a lot of lines from a lot of green what is the most ridiculous line you've ever heard a green ever say a green what you mean like me like what you call a green a line line like somebody say oh I saw a question or a statement about hoes um what's the most ridiculous of the ridiculous uh do we drink calm girl hell no ain't nobody no throw babies around here and that's the most common question that a square acts okay because they've been used to going without rubbers and stuff you know I didn't have females come around me and they were like I don't like the way to rubber taste I'd be like but you like the way that semen taste I'd be like let me give you some gang baby use these Trojans don't ever use a lifestyle because it's gonna pop and you're gonna be living a lifestyle you're gonna be living a lifestyle with AIDS disease and stuff that you ain't gonna never get rid of you know people be worried about a baby bitch ain't you worried about getting AIDS going without rubbers and stuff that's like that is just bad that's like that's down low don't go without no rubber that's just like that's just I don't care if it I don't care if it's dr Frankenstein don't go without a rubber may not ever go without a rubber so let me ask you this what's the name of you guys show again before we get off of here um me and pimping you and pimping can my man pimping can pimping can man uh of you from the game we're going across country you know what I'm saying we come into a city mirror you wow and and how can people uh get a hold to you and follow your page and follow the movement well you can catch me on all social media platforms and my name is hustle ma martina on all of them and my email is the same at gmail.com if you ever wanted to book me for any um anything you know if you want me to come see your grandpa and break on him call me hey I gotta answer this one thing did I see you on TMZ before I let you go off did I see you on TMZ what was you doing on there I was on there giving it up for e40 one time letting Harvey and um you know and uh and Charles know that e40 is the best rapper in the whole world to might you know what I'm saying his catalog is longer than the Golden Gate Bridge you know what I mean and um if you don't know about the clique when he first started you know what I'm saying you're not a real e40 follower you know his song Mr. Flamboyant be legit D shot you know what I'm saying sugar tea you know what I mean yeah straight up out of Vallejo yeah e40 that's my man you know Earl Stevens the goon with the spoon so I'm me and me and uh mr. maker gonna come up there we gotta come to your your side of town so we can get down you know I'm saying yeah you gotta go see mr. um Fabby Davis okay the dope era okay and not come to Oakland without going to dope era okay you got to go got it man thank you so much for coming on the show man we love you Martina I love you guys man and like I said you you dope interviewer uh appreciate the love man for coming on boss talk one on one man I hope you're enjoying Dallas while you're here yes man and I hope you'll come back uh I know I'm pepper can in the movement you're going to end up back in Dallas this is one of his main places where he'd be in for show yes so I love it man it's real it's real what down south it is I love it I love the grammar I love your guys the way you guys where we talk yeah like when you come to California you're gonna hear our lingo and it's just gonna be a future shock man whole love man say man hey it's been another great segment of boss talk one on one where the bosses talk man we