 It's time for the Laun Jean Chronoscope, a television journal of the important issues of the hour, brought to you every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. A presentation of the Laun Jean Wittner Watch Company, maker of Laun Jean, the world's most honored watch, and Wittner, distinguished companion to the world-honored Laun Jean. Good evening. This is Frank Knight. May I introduce our co-editors for this edition of the Laun Jean Chronoscope? Mr. William Bradford Huey, editor of the American Mercury, and Mr. Ogden Reed, Jr. of the New York Herald Tribune. Our distinguished guest for this evening is Mr. Paul Gray Hoffman, chairman of the Advisory Committee to the Citizens for Eisenhower. The opinions expressed are necessarily those of the speakers. Mr. Hoffman, a week ago, General Wettemeyer brought to our viewers the latest word from the Taft camp. So I'm sure that our viewers will welcome you tonight to bring us the latest word from the Eisenhower backers. Now, sir, we've heard a great deal about these contests down south in Texas and Louisiana. As a first question, I'd like for you to tell our viewers how you think these contests will be resolved. Mr. Huey, I have great confidence in the delegates to the National Convention. And I think if these contests reach the floor of the convention, I think they will. I'm certain that the contest will be decided in favor of the Eisenhower delegation from both Texas and Louisiana. Mr. Hoffman, what do you think the reaction will be of some of the Taft men in Texas to this whole question of contested delegates? Specifically, how do you think they will vote? Well, I think you'll find, as we already have found, certain men who are very strongly for Taft, who are very strongly against the tactics used in Texas by some of the Taft people. So you think that now there are about 75 votes that will be contested, aren't there? 75 delegates. And the convention itself will vote on the seating of these rival delegations, won't it? Well, as I understand it, the National Committee will first pass on these contests. And then, if there is a majority and minority report, as there perhaps will be, the contest will go to the convention itself. And what you're saying, sir, is that it's your view that on the convention floor that the Eisenhower case for those delegations will be so strong that you will get the support of all the Eisenhower people, of most of the uncommitted delegations, and even a few of the people who favor Senator Taft for the presidency. Yes, I'm quite sure that'll be the case. And that is tremendously important, isn't it? That fight will occupy a good deal of the early hours of the convention, won't it? Those 75 votes are very important. What do you say on the basis of what you now know that the chances are good that those contested delegates will be settled in the favor of Eisenhower at the moment? I certainly think so, yes, sir. Now, sir, I believe that it's been said by a great many people who've observed the campaign to date that there was some little letdown in confidence for Eisenhower immediately after Abilene. Now, how tonight, sir, would you appraise the way things are developing for the Eisenhower group? Well, I think the only letdown was on the part of a very few people who expected a miracle, who thought it would be all, everything would be all over with just one speech. But I honestly believe that every day the case for Eisenhower has gotten stronger and stronger, and his position has become stronger and stronger. What would you say, Mr. Hoffman, has hurt Taft, if you want to use that phrase? Do you think it's the argument advanced by the Eisenhower people that Taft cannot win? Do you think that argument has been chief amongst those that may have influenced delegates? I don't think that the argument is advanced by the Eisenhower people. I think that the thing that has perhaps given added strength is the fact that every poll that's been taken shows that Taft just can't win. And the time comes when your practical politicians begin to look those facts in the face and begin to make decisions in accordance with the facts. Would you care to comment on Senator Taft's reaction to the latest Gallup poll? Well, I think his reaction was a perfectly normal one, but I don't know any of the Gallup polls that have been over 3% an error in the past years. And I would say that the characterization by Senator Taft of the Gallup polls as propaganda is something that he probably didn't think through or he wouldn't have made the allegation. You yourself think that the Gallup polls that report Eisenhower much more popular are apparently correct then? Well, I think that you've got to judge the present by the past and I don't know any Gallup poll that has been an error over 3%. Mr. Hoffman, our viewers of course understand and remember that you've had considerable experience in the field of foreign affairs yourself. Now, what would you say is the principal difference between Senator Taft and General Eisenhower as candidates for the nomination? Well, I must say that I'm somewhat surprised that Senator Taft, because it seems to me that in the foreign field he's adopted what I call Me Too. Me Too. Are you accusing Senator Taft or stating that he is showing some evidences of Me Tooism? As far as following the foreign policy of General Eisenhower's concern, I can't tell about Senator Taft's present state of mind. I don't know it. I do know this, that General Eisenhower by every action of his over the past years has shown that he sincerely believes that the security of the free world depends upon a collective security. He believes that we've got the free nations must stick together and work together and he believes that down in the bottom of his heart. When I was in Washington, I never saw any evidence that Senator Taft had any similar belief to that. Not that he is what we call an old-fashioned isolationist, but I will say there was a great lack of enthusiasm on the part of Senator Taft for the programs that it seemed to me were most important. And perhaps are responsible for having, for communism having been stopped in Europe. Well now, for those of us, those of our viewers who want to choose intelligently between Senator Taft and General Eisenhower, can you tell us this? What would be the principal difference in the handling of foreign policy between Eisenhower as president and Taft as president? What do you think Taft would do that Eisenhower would not do in the foreign policy field if he became president? I think that there's a factor there that is somewhat intangible, but the whole free world has confidence in Dwight Eisenhower. They have confidence in his devotion to peace so that we'd start out, I believe, under Eisenhower as president with that conviction, which would help a long way toward reaching goals. You think the election of Eisenhower as president of the United States would give a psychological lift to the free world? I think it would give a perfectly terrific lift to the free world. What do you think, Mr. Hoffman, the reaction of the Russians would be to either Mr. Taft or Mr. Eisenhower becoming president? Whom do you think they respect the most and perhaps fear the most? Well, I can assure you this from very positive knowledge that the Russian leaders are respect and fear, General Eisenhower. He is the last man they want to see made president of these United States. Now, in the field of domestic policy, it's been said that or the Taft people feel that General Eisenhower is not critical enough for the present administration. Now, in the field of domestic policy, do you think that the two men Taft and Eisenhower are very close? I think that as far as policy is concerned, yes, you could say they're quite close together. I think, however, that this point I'd like to make, we've heard a great deal about answers to questions. We've heard a great deal about solving problems. As I see it, the most important step we've got to take is to improve the climate of the United States. The climate, by that I mean this, that there has been too much fear, there has been too much hate, there has been too much amorality in the air. That's what we call smog in California. And I think we've got to come out of that smog and into the sunshine of goodwill and confidence and integrity. And I think that Eisenhower has a great deal to contribute in that respect. I think he will improve immediately the climate of these United States. It'll be a better place to live in. He'll give us all a lift. Somebody has put it pretty crassly by just wondering if Eisenhower will throw them out. Now, do you think if Eisenhower is elected president, he'll do a pretty thorough house cleaning job in Washington? On the basis of Eisenhower's record, remember this. Eisenhower has handled two of the most difficult undertakings in all human history. He organized and administered the invasion of Europe. He's organized and administered shape. And there, if you'll check the record, you'll find that he is completely impersonal in his attitude toward people. He selects the best man he can find for a given job. No friendship enters into it. And I know of one or two cases where men deviated by what you might call a hare from what he considers their adherence to the highest possible standards, and they were on their way home in 24 hours. You don't think, then, that he would be guilty of cronyism in Washington? He never has. That's the best answer to that. Let's get back to the convention. What sort of a campaign do you think Eisenhower will conduct in Chicago once he gets there? At the convention itself? Yes. Well, I think that his convention activities will be handled under Cabot Lodge, who has been his campaign manager, and under the staff that's been working with Cabot Lodge. Now, two fast predictions, I'm sure that our audience would like, sir. Number one, you're a Californian, and I believe you've been commuting back and forth to California. Now, how do you think that big California delegation will split those 70 votes whenever they leave Governor Warren? Well, I'll tell you something very confidential. That delegation is composed of very, very smart people. I know most of them. As a consequence, I'll be disappointed if, when released, at least 60 out of the 70 don't go for Eisenhower. Well, Mr. Hoffman, it's been a great, been a great pleasure to have you tonight, and thank you very much for being with us, sir. 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