 We're going to turn the air down, it's not going to go out at all. Turn it down? Yeah. It was... I was going to see if you could have a look at the cord. The kinsu push right here. Are you getting off the principle? Yes. I'll bring you two boxes. So you have some? I got four two packs. Okay. Okay. We'll set it now. Okay. Okay. And the bribing hit. So you jump around and right one time and it hits on all places. I have to take the kinsu every time. Every time? Yeah. And so I'm going to call them and check this. I should have just cut it first. But, so then I'm bribing them. I'm letting them pick up hot wings at the grocery store. So they'll be brave and not wiggle. And I did it in the car seat and I'm strapping it. Air conditioning. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Hello. Right, I was telling Arlene here my air conditioning went out last night. Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's hot. Yeah, I got it out. So two o'clock. Yeah, somebody will be out today. So tonight. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. It's 7. 7. 7. 7. 7. 24 o'clock. So come in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, slow down. Yeah. Go ahead. Okay. Go on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great service, that's it. Thanks. Yes. Thank you, Grandma. Thank you so much. Thanks, Dad.itch On Saturday night and all these Sunday, um, the mail is a whitey, and it becomes a whitey, so it's going to be directly to June. So it's going to be on Friday 7th, so it's going to be open. So I'm going to keep it open. Of course, I'm just looking at the screen. I'm not sure. It's a different model. Yeah. So there's some new scenarios to do. I think that's better than I thought. There are days that are different. Oh, you did that? Yeah. Okay. Oh, my face. Just keep it open. Oh, you have to get in the car? Do you have to be in your tomorrow family all night? Yeah. I'm coming. So I'm going with Bianca. She's the one who's on the go. Here. мо leo Donald here. Kendra Daniels here. Lisa Gallener. To approve all the minutes from May 17th, 2022. We. If we could just get the title of USS, say hi. Number three public invited to be heard. Do we have anybody from the public? Absolutely not. They're just really sexy. I love that one. So moving on to the number four organizational updates. The viola update. So this will be an item I go over here. So this is a very simple update to revise. The number of invited board members from five to seven. And we will take this to the LHA board to accept the revisions on July 5th. It doesn't want to say that it is. It's a big, big change. Right. It's very critical and substantive. But like you're reporting, it's very critical. Do we need to approve the change? I think... Yeah. Well, we have a motion last time. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So moving on to the LHA advisory board member election. So since we need the violas to be approved first. And then we can start taking steps to open up for the election again. There's a couple considerations we should plan for. Recruitment. I'm trying to get in touch with people, especially given the attributes that we were looking for for the last meeting. Also, talking about... So the end of terms for Cameron and Lauren are this month. And so their term will expire. And so I wanted to bring up if there's any interest in... And if we can do a very temporary extension just through the elections. If they're interested, I have to research a little bit about the possibilities that I have here on my hand. I thought it was Tom and Lauren. Yeah, I think, yeah. I'm sorry. Tom and Lauren. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I think we get an extended. And then we're going to ask for... We're going to go with the Senate, right? Mm-hmm. Would that be a commissioner vote? Or would that be... Yes, in the terms. But commissioners would need to... If it was just temporary, we can definitely let them know. Don't you like that? Yeah, we want to know as well. We want to work together. Either way, I think... Sorry, Lauren. Yeah, I was just going to say, yeah, we could vote today. Just like a temporary extended. Mm-hmm. And then we could bring it up and let them know if they need me. Temporary impediment. Two months, three months? That's what I had in mind. Sure, two months. Yeah. Just to get through elections and have enough people to make a say that's the nicest couple of years. So we're going to keep the people that have already applied or are going to have totally new ideas? I think that it's only fair to keep the ones that have applied and open it up and accept the bigger pool. Okay. I'm open to thoughts on that. But not... They don't... I mean, they'll probably want to re-apply it. They don't just accept them. So I think that makes sense. We'll let them just keep those and just... We'll let them know that we're going to, as of July 5th, increase the size of the board and are going to open up for them. Can we communicate then to the two people that have applied just that we're still in the process? Yeah. So that they're not hanging out there? Not knowing about it? Especially if... The other city council advisory boards are all moving forward and they don't prepare anything. Yeah, right, right, right. Do you have anything else you want to make sense of? Well, I would say we just have a formal motion to extend it to August 30th. Okay. August 30th. Okay. August 30th. Okay. Okay. Okay, August 30th. Okay. So something to make that. It would be the meeting at Florian. Yeah. We'd like to thank that work group. I'm going to move that we extend. To extend the life of. Okay. It would be a stroke. It would be for Tom and Lauren to stay on the board with everything else. Yeah. Also... I have a good discussion. Okay, so can I say hi? Hi. Hi. I have a question while we're on the issue of expanding the board and understanding. I tried to get on the LHA website and part of it doesn't show up on my screen so I can't see the whole thing. But while I was on here I went to the beddings, the menu part, which is in both. And I could find nothing about the advisory board and nothing about applying for the advisory board. There were a couple of people that were recommended to me when I put out the word and I was going to contact them. I want to check on the website as to how we do this and I couldn't find anything. So we definitely have the advisory board is listed there with the numbers and the about and then forwards tab. But it does not have information about applying so I think that's a good idea. Move on to item number five, developments and or project updates. Limus of the goals. Today is NOFA vouchers. That's me. So we got a notice from HUD stating that there was a lot of opportunities for new vouchers, different kinds of vouchers. So I wanted to go through all of that opportunities that are coming up. The House of Choice vouchers have been renewed for many years. And that was part of the family. So that doesn't give us any new vouchers, but it does and what we have. There is new House of Choice vouchers coming down. It's a middle-based voucher addition. And we will be receiving notice probably from the next couple of months on how many. And you can accept it more than I have. So we just paid on a dollar now or the actual number? The actual number. So that'll be the list of numbers. So they give us dollars too? Yeah. But again, that's kind of what we need in terms of probably the app set aside. And I don't think, I don't think we're out of termination due to insufficient funding or unforeseen circumstances. But L.A. Jane didn't have enough money to pay for the vouchers that we already have. And we can apply for the addition when we work. We don't follow up on that. There's also a vouchers company. Tentative protection vouchers. In order to vouchers, the property is being taken off of the housing list. And in the private vouchers bill for those people that are in the property. We don't have any in one month. There's different fundings for administration costs, positions. If there's a blended admin piece or if you had several counties that you would operate in, you want to do that. If we've got a special admin fee rate, and that's for homeownership programs, we don't have homeownership programs in our voucher program. There's also funding coming down for head-bashing. That's the veterans, vouchers for veterans. And I think we might be able to apply for those. A separate offer, which is a notice of funding available to you and funding down from the week in the next couple of months. We'll see if it's for either refunded or funding already-bashed vouchers or if we can apply for those. We won't know that in a moment. There's funding for mainstream vouchers, and that's the funding. That funding is for existing mainstream. And we don't have any mainstream vouchers. So it doesn't give us an opportunity to look at any. So it's just for- In every unification program, I've never heard of this one. This is an issue with a separate bill for- And this is for vouchers for families to keep together. And for foster care, we have foster care for kids that are coming out of foster care. We have to show a need. And so I'm going to research that prior to an offer and see if we can show a need here for a number of months. What is considered a family? Is it parents, children, grandparents? It's all kids. From what I get, it's all about kids. Okay. So it's speaking that he was living with a family in those homes. And that might mean that the whole family would be serving a home. I don't- Again, this is for some of the other federal programs for the kids coming out of foster care. They're going into, like, low income housing. They only have a five-year period that they're eligible for that assistance. So they need to work on, like, 18 to 23 and get those quick loans. The other thing is the school district in my country is available there. It's a guy's month. A guy's month. Anyway, they have a guy that deals with people who are largely homeless or homeless and students. So they don't get this kind of information. Yeah. I think what you have to do is allow the students to interview you too. There's, um, a project that just opened Carolei with Baker. And they have a handful of vouchers for kids each in that foster care. So I don't know if you want to connect with them and see what's Baker housing. It's called the Carolei. Where is that? It's, um, it's an out-of-count here. It's basically, like, right at the end of the U.S. 36. There are three additional agencies to participate in an experiment for vouchers. It's going to work. It's an asset building. It's actually just to pay for a housework to help people save. And you can use your admin fees to put into savings accounts for them. I don't know if any funding comes available with it. It's just that they waive a lot of federal regulations. And again, that's going to come out in an OFA. I will look into that. What I read was it's just funding flexibilities. And I don't think we're out of the position to speak to a flexible group or something at this point. Yeah. But I'll look and see if there's any funding that comes with it. I wonder if we can tie it to, like, the PI program with the county. You know, we used to fund the PI program with the CBG funds. And it was a difficult program to get up and running in constant. But that would be, that's what I was thinking when I read this, this PI program, that would be something that we should partner with. Yeah, I get to start something that's open there. It might be helpful for the residents. It's one thing to just put money inside and know, like, okay, if someone's going to match it, it's another to, like, understand the money in general. Like, why and how it works and when the benefits are long term and how to deny the urge to say no. Check it out. What did you call that program? The PI program, personal investment. Okay. As we had under the rice program that wasn't needed, there was a lot of financial advice given to the rice families. Should point out building their credit and how to do that and how to budget and how to, and not just save, but how to budget. And there were, and I probably mentioned this before, out of nine families, there were two of them that bought homes after five years of that program. So it, the whole financial issue, the whole financial issue was presented. And there are rumblings and that they want to kick up the rice program. So we might have resources that can pull it together. Yeah, and I will for financial counseling. Yes, to our residents. Yeah, especially the families. Yeah. But again, I don't know the answer to this. Just wondering if your counseling offered through the senior centers. I think the senior center does have some financial counseling for. Good. I'm trying to think on the counseling, the Boulder County counseling programs. We funded through the program. They provide financial counseling to people in Longmont. Yeah. Yeah, that's any level. Yeah. Yeah. So that's it. That's my report for the funding. That's going to be development updates. Okay, so just talking about some of the highlights on Congress we made for village place. We have Sarah box are she's going to be our consultant on this. She's the same one that consult with us on this rehab. And she, we have her under contract. We have put out a press qualifications for legal services. So far we have one decline because we put a not to exceed without authorization. So just some sort of controls, but even though flexible, if it was needed, we put that at $100,000. We got one decline so far. So, but we are, we still have the proposals are due today. The end of the end of day today. And so we will see what happens. And then we're doing document gathering, analyzing rent rolls, getting things prepped and ready to take off on that. The person to project we close on Friday. All right. Yeah. Finally, it was a, we've talked about some of the challenges, obviously the construction cost escalation, but then this is our first lifetime project. We're putting our funding through and there's a lot of talk about how our tech go together. And so we had to do a lot of diligence and creativity to make sure it played well with the equity. We got that all sorted out. Got all the city funding passed to LHA and ready to go. So we're ready to rock. So they should start construction to livers is their target for the over the land over my over. So this one's an LHTC asset currently. They purchased it for $800,000. Oh, I forget what year it was 2014 or something. And they use city affordable housing funds to purchase it. So they have a loan that's due back to the city. So there's a couple of things going on. We're talking about how that transfer of assets over to LHA could go and how to deal with the 800,000. And then we've got a draft request for qualifications for a combo team. We want a one stop shop. We want the team that knows how to work together. So financial consulting on the deal, pre fab development and architecture altogether. So that's what we're putting out for is just in draft form. If you'd like to check it out, you would be welcome. I would welcome your feedback on that. Since this is the first real mass development like that without looking for a full team, the reason that we did that is A, it reduces the amount of procurement we have to do. But what we are, since we are looking to do a pre fab option there, we know that there are, like Indie Well for example, which we expect to propose, they have architects that are familiar with their product and they have partnerships with consultants. So we have not, it's just in barely draft form. So we'll be working on that still for a little bit before we put it out. But that's where we're at with that. So if anybody's interested, we would like to feedback on it. I would like to look at it. Okay. Okay. We targeted the number of units on the type of product and kind of parameters. So we, so far it's a range based on what we can get there density wise. We know that we are targeting family units. So what we know as possible is we could do a mix of some town home style units and some staff departments, you know, larger size apartments on top. That's just what we know is possible. But the RFQ would, we'll see what kind of proposal. But so far going with the general family units, we know that we could get between 30 and I think, I think the number was between 30 and 70 is max. And so we just said somewhere, but we just said a range. Obviously we want more, but we also want to make sure it's the character that we're going for. And we've been speaking with planning just to see what kind of the family process we could be going through and that type of thing. So that is in the works. Next we're, now that we have KD tongue on board, we're just rocking and rolling. So affordable assisted living. We have been, if you need a refresh on that, we've been talking about researching ways to use our ARCA funding to provide a pipeline for LHA residents that are in need. So we have been doing a lot of research and we have a lot of good resources out there right now that are kind of coming together. So NBC, the National Development Council, we have, the city has a contract with them to help on an array of development issues. And they have a lot of experience doing affordable assisted living like Lytec funded assisted living. And then we met with another developer on another project and he said he just threw out assisted living and my ears perked up. I chatted with him after and he has worked with NBC and affordable assisted living in Illinois. And we're just having conversations around the community. We meet with Cinnamon Park or senior housing options living today just to find out about their operational structures and using Medicaid. And then we've already been talking to the HOVER communities. They have land. They also have a need. And there's potentials that we're just chatting about to see if something works for all involved where we could each have a pipeline. One bill for having half split units. So the challenge here is even our specialty is providing units into the development side which that's not their specialty. We need their specialty to come in and do the operational side. So we just need to make sure that there's funding sources rely all long term. See if we can put something together. So we might have development consultant, a developer, land and a service provider might be coming together. Still researching and making sure it works. But that's kind of what's cooking. But so our hope would be that it would be from family units. The HOVER is probably still going to be focused on senior housing. If the C bill is assisted, it would be assisted. The HOVER land is family units. We're talking to HOVER communities. This would be a complete separate. They do senior independent living, assisted living and skilled nursing care there. So we'll see what what hands off now are discussing with people what their needs are and what they should bring to the table. The Royal Noble Home Park. You recall that's the noble home park that washed away the flood. The city owned that land. Now the flood improvements have been made. It will be out of the match flood plan here probably in 2023. Approved by FEMA. So we're chatting right now just internally with the city but planning and looking at the riparian setbacks and just seeing what kind of proposal we could put there but the intent is to do rightful units basically go as high as we can in that area. It's close to first domain transit station. Transit oriented development. We're talking to NDC about that since there's potential for new market tax credits and other kind of taking that area. So we're just doing some city internal good diligence right now to see what makes the most sense at that site. How big is that site? It's three and a half acres before the setback but we are talking about what makes sense with the setback there. The city staff. It's a unique area. The riparian area is defined. So we're strategizing what we could do there to make it make sense and also still have enough room to develop. Well with the change and the construction on the river, what is the floodplain in that area? It's constrained. It's still a few of the mapping but the setback still applies regardless of the floodplain improvement and that's not to take us in the back. So we're working on it. So internal, part of the so we're applying the agreement with RGP on the transit arena development further north further north further north and so as we look at the broader transit arena development in that area there may be some additional opportunities to aggregate and use this as part of that so we can build affordable and throughout so we're just concentrating on so we're still at the stages of that. The things that we're working through is to see what makes more sense but the intent is to have transit-oriented or partial and then other things that are in the works that are related to our but whether or not they end up being in the right tools for the LHA but we're looking at an affordable for sale project that we might have some opportunities coming forward for that area out east and then a transitional housing or some sort of house option we draw very early we're looking at what is possible and still need to do some research on partnerships so that's the main development of AIDS where we've been real busy because we've got specialty expertise that's a big update yeah one of the things we talked about a year ago is she wouldn't be nice in five years if we had to do this and there's coming lots of ways to do this oh you got that's an ice so kind of I forgot yeah so we're we got the 90% tax return award I think we've happened right before last week yeah correct and so we're just this week we've got our regular starting regular updates to get with elements to start pointing out everything that needs to happen the idea is we should be able to close on financing about March 2020 through the estimate and then construct right the other point to the sunset high to the 90% because we have already allocated so we already have entering conversations in the recovery campaign including the work self-assisted individuals as their recovery from drug addiction and seeing about potential recovery patient in that area utilizing some of the products that they need to support the residents definitely both intensive lights and recovery which you know is a big challenge for us there so those conversations are going to start alongside this discussion so we can try to move both together and then we'll be working with all of the properties in general as we figure it out so we think that's a really good opportunity we've done a tour with them of those weeks to talk about what they're need to be we're looking at we're just chatting with them but we're going to know architecture where we actually have a proposal to discuss that we use our CB funding to find a qualified for this club so we are working with them to go to the city resident in the process so this is really a reminder that this is not going away but with Michelle's departure I have Michelle's notes, I've got the information for more and Cameron, we need to take it and review and start summarizing the priorities by property because they did vary by property we can see that right off of that so I'm just keeping this on it's an ongoing guidance that we have it and it will be summarized we should use as we go forward to that it was definitely not an hour but I know it was it was almost two and that was because I had to leave to take my kid to a birthday party I would have stayed longer, I was actually super enjoyable, I had a great time getting to know them just to their surroundings things that they were happy about concerned about us we've got some work ahead of us but for this honor it is happening people also do you have my notes as well? I think so, I've got to double check I remember given it if not I would have for what general comment I make is that they really seem to appreciate the opportunity to give back to them conversations so Monday we're thinking about whether this is for a regular process I went over it three different times and then your time the first time five we had a lot more to say and then there were always people oh, are you talking about the box? I'm seeking your thoughts it would be almost a nice opportunity for someone to be uploading concerns more regularly looking for a purpose for this board some advice that we can give counsel that this is a good opportunity for people honestly they have some great ideas they didn't live in property they know what they want to see one of the things they talk about pretty much was communication and that's the way it goes that's one of the things that's advisable and you can talk with that especially looking at the rest of this agenda unlike I think the staff may help but that's something we could you know, it's a gap we could fill yeah yeah that makes a lot of sense because as we work through things like evictions and other components it's kind of hard for us as staff to be getting that information because we're on this side of the work group I think that would be a huge help for us and that makes a lot of sense Simone, I have 6 items for input from the LHA board input 2 that LHA board mentioned A is representation policy that's just me again so I had updated their retention requirements in 2011 so this is just kind of catching up with some new regulations and it also promotes more of an electronic record keeping instead of paper we're overwhelmed with paper we've got files and closets so neat that is they offer any funding to help you because that would be nice if you could hire people to help convert to support we also have 7 files for one person on the urgent program and we don't need to keep them for the past 3 years so it's a lot of cleanup but at least this gives us the opportunity to move forward and hopefully get more of the files electronically instead of in a dungeon so did you have any questions about it or so my only question was electronic paper is it or alright at some sites is that the reason why in some sites it's maybe electronic it just gives you the option I'd like to see I'd like to see most everything become electronic eventually but this is more geared to electronic and in terms of your electronic file keeping is it saved in some sort of database that makes it easier to fly or is it just all files on the network it will be easier to find you're working on long boots it's an reasonable amount so that's our record yeah so it will be filed easier to access not easy but easier but it also has controls on who has access to it too and then we have backups and that beyond the it's obviously the capability of removing the documents I can live here yeah purging them I can have attention we can enter dates and then you can sort my data what is this I think Luciam is working on looking in class with which she resides so our new record retention person for the city will help us figure that out and then run I have just a couple of questions and they just really are sort of understanding here so this three years after completion of contracts is has a federal guidebook these are all federal I was just trying to go where that number came from so we have on employee applications unsuccessful it says two years after date of application I'm trying to figure out why we even keep those kind of requires you to keep them for ten years after they've been successful probably relates to some labor wrong for two years there's a plan for proper discrimination they have to keep the record for a couple of years after that legal stuff something that way and then on the last page reasonable accommodations number two reasonable accommodations and then you go down farther and it's another reasonable accommodation what's the difference between those two and the ones that's medicated and the other one does not has reasonable accommodation requested they continue medicated sensitive information and then the one above that number one says written reasonable accommodation I was just wondering what the difference was but then the medical says the recommendation so it's so the written reasonable accommodation is from the tenant and what the company spent is the medical and so it's the medical part that needs to be destroyed and not kept the request from the family is kept but the medical is used very quickly I was just going to suggest that if it was helpful for resources to like volunteer to scan documents to help convert to electronic I would be happy to help with that but now because I know how intensive that can be yes you are for sure you are now I'm all trust me I we found that we were very paper oriented organization and we had to go COVID and do that and documents unless you went into the office well that's another reason why this is important you're having staff or HCP staff sometimes they're coming on site because we've been short on property managers just being here and they need access to stuff wherever they are 6B section 3 plan this is approved by the board but really this is more for input the foregoer so same with this one we'll also go to like that so if advisory board goes to make recommendations for approval to go I'm going to get a motion for a recommendation to move the further attention also to the committee board commission second second I I section 3 plan that's me too so I have requires that all housing authorities have a section 3 plan section 3 is for development type projects and any time LHA puts any funding into a non maintenance some type of construction and they put money into it then they have to follow the section 3 requirements and then section 3 is just a way for local housing authorities to help employ tenants it's usually for public housing tenants but since there's public housing tenants here we look at like that properties and we also look at the voucher program and so it's just it's just a mechanism to get preferences for those participants to be high on construction so so any construction job that they could do anything related to this construction even though it might be in the office of construction doing office kinds of things if we if the LHA hire somebody to do because of a construction because of a construction project we have to follow the section 3 rules if the construction contractor is paid over $100,000 for the project then they have to follow the section 3 rules when they start hiring for that project specifically for that project really it's not us unless we follow us to monitor the contractors to make sure we're following any time LHA puts a penny into a project then we have to follow so when we do our procurements there's a section 3 contractors if they're 50% they it's a 3-day training for writing this stuff but they would have to follow for example unspoken BCHA to hire anybody specifically Pinker our contractor is a section 3 contractor so they're certified so that when I have to do compliance reporting all I did was just say they're certified it is very complicated it took me a while I know and they changed it just recently and that's the reason we have this new section 3 policy they changed the way that you count employees what is section 3 the employee looks like now many sections read that have to be hired so that is the reason we have this policy it's actually the same policy with different regulations in here that CBB training has to follow and are we typically following just as a partner at Veshmark's just another ourselves any questions why you're here from Tracy she's our ACV and compliance manager so this is her compliance work that she's doing I don't think we've had a camera for years so this is the compliance part of what we are at Tracy Tracy moved over we've sold her it's a little far it's a little far it's much more refreshing to think about how we do comply than how we make up for our failure right well we're going to be in hand mode for a while I think well if you're ready to have another motion to recommend a food for the board I'll make the motion so we have a motion to approve the section 3 section 3 plan for both yes say hi hi James let's go on to 6 C Briarwood Bowling Refinance so Briarwood Bowling was due April 1st of a living payment of about $450 we decided to go back to her bank and see if there's an opportunity to extend that so we're looking at a 15 year loan so we don't get a living payment situation again it's at 4% interest rate that we locked in and what they're going to do is they've been out for $500,000 based on the appraisal we're getting cash back we've decided to take that place temperature for the Briarwood because we do not have one there's no separate cash that was ever set aside to do any type of repairs with Briarwood so they think it's going to be probably around $30,000 and then maybe we also probably need to establish a monthly allocation as well because that's not big deal well because it was never part of a tax credit entity or anything like that that set that up so maybe establishing some type of permanent cost I think by the end of this year to make sure that we're just adding to that fund as we go so we'll just include that in the next budget from them too the reserve as well. Is that all we need to do? yeah that would be so that maybe we may have to increase rents for the office for not necessarily the tenants but I know the tenants have a path we haven't done an increase there so we'll have to look at the tenants to see what types are out there who have vouchers who doesn't have vouchers I think it's kind of half or a half there's a path that has vouchers and have them so that we should ensure that this is going to be as soon as we get this approved because they're not closed just a related item since BCP is occupying the offices and survivors the opposite they have approached us and are already done they're doing a volunteer project to pick up the Xevo and some of the common areas speaking of number six we have some volunteer talk with the confidence and then we'll have because we split what the cost of it we put $50.50 on the cost of the supplies and then they have what they insured and the Otterbox group is coming in to do all of the repairs that we do in the realm of the Xevo and it's still since doing the actual work we've made sure it's all in the ADA compliance that we're going in they have a new Xevo they spent a lot of time out there they've been having some events where they're trying to make a wide range of residents to participate who's ever home some of the residents have been involved with them with the gardening plans out there picking up some of the weeds they're making a community feel there let's go on to number seven anybody have any ideas on part of LRJ work plans or goals let's go on to number eight tell us your report getting a bit of an operation so that's your report so the attached hospital to your report we did have a 1% drop in the Otterbox group down to 94% this is going to be due to our our best units we're now we're going to have seven best units in the portfolio and then we have the maintenance but now I'm fully staffed for maintenance I had one maintenance who was injured who was only working with limited capabilities, I had one hour of surgery but we hired everybody's hired, everybody's back to full capacity so we've set some guidelines I had a big maintenance meeting last week with my managers in the maintenance setting time frames getting everybody on the same page of how we're moving forward on maintenance requests maintenance time frames for request vendors these numbers come up pretty quickly from a fully operational on the maintenance side the decals are below so I'll go over some of these with the property update which is the next portion but any questions on the occupancy? all of the maintenance have to be done by outside people correct this is a sustained requirement you're all hired for maintenance correct no not all of the maintenance as we go we're all listed here on the property updates so I'll go over each one and go over our app in the process, all of those ones for the property updates general property updates though we've had the fire department have many copies of conversations through May and June I'm actually working with Michelle Bolden with the fire department right now because almost each one I heard disparate information from each fire department so we're really good and some are very iffy so I'm trying to work with Michelle to get all the departments on the same page so that I can get the same information to all residents so that we're not doing one thing at one property one thing at another property and it makes it really confusing but we were told this and we were told that so we're trying to get all that organized right now through the fire department but it was nice having them here the residents seemed to enjoy it a lot of them would be paired with ice cream socials opportunity for the residents to gather before the coffee conversations currently next light is attending our coffee conversations and working with the residents who don't already have the low cost internet or free internet so they're going through how to get the upgraded and go them to have it, you know get higher speed, apply for the programs they're even bringing with them lists of residents who are receiving in rebates and we're trying to figure out those residents afterwards okay, you know that if you're you live at LHA property you should automatically get this discount, you're not, why? and so they're trying to help them get those discounts right then and there yes you already need more than 20% they will be here and that's probably one of the federal programs but federal dollars they're trying staff enough to get them basically covering 100% of the costs of the visuals and the tiers so the fed program pays the full rate and then we reduce it and then the fed program will be covered internally but as long as that program is being funded they're paying us for free and the only cost to the residents is if they decide to rent a modem it's $8.95 per month or they have to rent a modem and what they've done is LHA properties are already exempt, they don't have to do the application because all LHA properties are affordable already so this requirement I need to show that or proof that they live here with the police that they just recently moved here so they don't have to go through that long application process excuse myself for LHA I have a calendar invite, LHA is hosting a fair housing training on August 11th at the museum we're bringing in I cannot remember his last name now but I work with some schools involving with the city to bring in a national fair housing trainer to work with not just LHA staff, the HCI staff our accountants everybody who works with LHA the senior services who may interact with an LHA resident so that they kind of have the basics of fair housing and what we go through and what we have to watch for just precautions to look out for not to get themselves in any liabilities so we'll be inviting you guys along with the city council as well so I'll send out that calendar invite we're talking about 40 people and the focus of this fair housing training is not going to be reasonable accommodations and service animals which a lot of fair housing trainings these days seem to be year towards we want this more of the do's and don'ts what you do for one you do for all type of situations what kind of time frame are you looking at? it's 8.30 to 12.30 erica I think I can sleep but I'm sorry it would be cool so senior center will be providing all the refreshments for us going into the properties so the suites currently we have the one that's in remediation we had to come down with the studs from last year everything's basically in there now saying that we should have that one the second week of July in our possession and slowly ready to print out since preparing this we did get the results back on another unit and that one is probably the highest we've ever seen so that one doesn't have to come down with the studs they had to three times higher than the worst one it's almost like that not yet because they got to get the four right now so they'll be a secondary test they tested sign feet outside of the unit in the hallway that had a readable level so they went 10 feet just got the results back the 10 feet is low enough so they don't have to be contaminating that but in that first sign there is another unit so we tested that in it inside as well and we're waiting for those results so are we retaining their deposits or is there any way to get any money back from there at all? so we've been talking about this first of all there as it stands there's really nothing out there that really is a true right of consequence when by the time sometimes by the time we get the testing done they're gone they're gone in this instance we are going to see what we can do about pursuing a civil case potentially because we might have a window of opportunity still but generally what we have talked about doing that we think is a good investment is you can do Amazon which you've been doing just at home tests as a preliminary screening and then you bring in the professionals if you've got a reading we've been talking about for any new moving doing a preliminary test showing those results and having a new tenant say look this is a clean unit and then on recertification every year we want to test every unit at this point it's just to show residents that we are watching this that we take the safety of the neighbors very seriously and that is some sort of threat of consequence so if we can especially for new movements if we have that clear result and if it ever comes up not clear then we have it before and after eventually that could be relied upon for now it's just a recertification and if it comes up we can't necessarily say it was definitely you were not but it's just at least something out there that shows that we are taking this seriously there are consequences to this because this is just crazy that really would fit with anything related to maintenance in the property because we go in afterward and inspect you know how it's been used and if it's normal use or excess and this has become part of it so I think that's a fantastic process I send everything to our attorney on Friday because they're working on our lease and we're going to work on the disclosure because my hand is doing something like this already I don't have a property I've been doing my research they have a big I guess math problem in Montana so in other words they start doing this testing beforehand having a disclosure that they sign off on stating that management how to break a test annually if not more frequently so I think at the suites this is going to be a big deteriorator as people start hearing this and want to move into the suites then they find out we're doing this we're also going to tell them not to have people stay with them but there are also people that aren't going to go to the lease because of the problem and if we're doing that the message is going to be this is going to get abated and it's going to be less and less to worry about so there's two songs to this part of it kind of goes back to is it sense of magic still TV good anyway one of the things we were talking about in the work that we're doing and we get recovery cafe there's so we're rooting for because we think that's important we don't have that in our portfolio so that's a piece of this as well the scary part in this is why we got five which is that going to cost but when we talk about it I did say we probably want to start having conversations with our insurance company ahead of time because long term sooner we catch the the less it costs to obey the more on top of it we are the less we're going to get the insurance all the time as we're being but we don't want to do it without them knowing about it because I could they could start seeing our rush of claims and the next thing you know we're going to pay for we're going to do that in conjunction with them in terms of the one that's the highest number that we ever seen you know they will have to test once they pull the drywall and everything else out and I honestly I'm concerned what we're going to find in the wood of the concrete because we've seen other units of concrete that has been contaminated that they had to grind so this one could be a really expensive unit we can see the impact on the adjacent unit the good news is they don't share HVAC so that's not a problem but all that being said I have operationally said we need to go with this individual because it it is so bad that we've got to basically draw the line in the sand and start sending the message that you can't just leave you know do we think we'll get anything probably not if there's a civil judgment and we've got an eviction on this one yes and I'm not surprised so eviction for any methodation we will not suppress the records we are making sure that we don't let go so between both of those those are really only the two that you can look at in terms of not housing folks because of the effect on other units we didn't want another housing authority or another market rate apartment complex to deal with the same individual knowing that this is likely going to happen again we're also talking about how do we talk to private landlords about taking a very similar approach because a lot of times when they go through the eviction process they just they'll say oh I'll leave I'll leave at the last minute and so they don't go through the eviction until you still have somebody that's contaminated a unit and really talking to all the landlords about how important it is with meth that you continue through the eviction because then that becomes something that basically could save your partner down the road but you know that's a multi-family so we're working through all these issues because it's significant at the end of the day it impacts the residents and I don't think there's a single property where we haven't seen that contamination maybe so the framework on this is even though we have age-restricted units we're seeing this all over and the privates are seeing it too I mean we're going to do it right but we are definitely part of all of these that are going pretty hard on this one so about the sweets do you also check the little health goods as well or do you do? yeah as managed we go into every unit every year so we're putting eye on it well this is great because this is brought up at several of the properties that I want to do is you know what's being done to deal with this so at least there's an answer now okay is there there's some communication back to the residents about how hard we're going to get this individual or do we just trust the ruler well we just started these topics because we got the highest test results we've ever seen on the same day and now it's going to the next unit over so we really we came hard two Fridays ago on this and just started working through it with our attorneys seeing what we needed to do I have 40 meth tests now in my office so when we're ready to go we got them because normally we're taking 30 days to come in and these ones came in overnight so part of it is and we're being intentionally vague to a certain extent we also need we're also trying to figure out what we need to know and who we need to inform so we're aware that this individual moved their stuff into this board now go back in time to when we just took over and we had the addiction I think you all were on the board when we had the addiction with the sweets we were literally carrying and I were helping we had to run a pod because of the way that one was done and what we learned now is they have to align the pod with plastic and then they have to wrap certain household items so they wouldn't contaminate and so we've got another thing we're trying to figure out is what's our obligation to the storage company because we know that there's contaminated materials and so there's all these things we're chasing down on this but now I think once we once we can work with the attorneys and really line out a course I think we're pretty overt about here's what we're doing because we want to house you but you can't do this because this one contaminated unit could kick another person out depending on those levels I'd kick an innocent person out my yeah I am concerned about community hot water steam through all of our apartments we don't have I mean we can we have a thermostat but we still have you know we share the pipes and whatever to get hot water heat right? it's the return area that you're worried about yeah I'm too worried it's down from the one that's contaminated do you have a return area in the human spirit or the main system? could you just find out yeah just find out yeah yeah typically what I've been made aware of it's not one of the areas blowing in it's when you have to call a return area where it sucks it into the main system you don't want to present do you have window units so huh? yeah window she's worried about the water pipes we've got to look into it yeah to your point Cameron yes we do plan on doing once we have enough information do plan on doing a communication effort especially ahead of next year's research occasions they're done for 20 years in kind of time I want to jump on something Lisa's going to talk about I'm trying into the math unit they made an application to CDBG and it was approved and so we will be able to put, we're now going to put cameras in all our housing authority units those that don't have the comments that that that is good all of our facilities in the common area and in the parking lot we're going to make the residents high spoke with Barry now because they're very poor cameras so we'll get third floor troops we did not apply for but we will we have you know the what do you call it the remote the ones that we can I have some extras in my office but it says I should do an update on this and you think of it for this agenda but the LHA staff did apply to the city CDBG program and on June 28 on Tuesday the council will consider approving those so that they were recommended reports for resurfacing hardstone and launch parking lot including ABA modifications redoing the playground at Aftimento's neighborhood and the security cameras so those are all recommended for approval there's a total of I said I think there's a total of $140,000 worth of projects and then we're going to apply for more when they open up again at the end of summer back to the streets so you mentioned it's for new leases it's what we're going to be asking for the math so the recertification we decided the yearly lease so that recertification will also add that language into it so it'll kind of be phase we'll start with the new movements here immediately existing folks will be on research now in the next year why can't you you know just a amendment to the current lease real quick with everybody well that's what we're working on as a disclosure that space both the crime-free addendum does give us the okay to go in and test we want even more clear that LHA is going to be proactive on this we're going to be going in and testing at least annually in a month if not more frequently okay more frequently than you on what cause it it would be if we have cause like when we had as a situation at the streets it's already been an eviction we had the lady wrap something put it on her neighbor's door when they unwrapped it it was a meth pipe so we went through eviction on that one that unit was tested that's one of our other meth units at the streets we came back online this week we're just waiting for the final test that was a local termination but things like that were arrested if you find out they were in possession then we're going to want to test that unit and we'll probably test them and three or four others in the building so it's not just one person being tested at once we're going and doing a group and rotating throughout the building that's reasonable well yeah I just want a reasonable project I don't want anything to happen next year yeah no that's somebody who we're talking to lastly can't you use the city's dogs no we're not doing that we're not doing that we're not going down that road they were on their way I guess I need to explain yeah one other question on that so if we added the new recertification process would we be testing at that point or the next recertification process at that current recertification so when they start the paperwork we're going to have them sign these disclosures saying hey we're going to come in because we start the recertification 120 days before their due so at that time when they come in for the first initial appointment we're going to have them sign that disclosure the manager will come in do the test and then we know if we even need to move forward with the paperwork or they just need a notice of aging and Tracy's team and Marcus and Ruby they're about to do that most of the time yeah the same yeah but they're actually ahead of the schedule now which to be honest about then we're going to have an appeal process in there at all so what if our initial test comes back and they think it is positive they want to appeal it or we're going to then have the official testing well we do have pretty much a policy that we can work through and think you know you have a proof-o-wisby we can work through the team we do know that if somebody doesn't move in with a clean test we can't prove it was then but we still want to this is all said without understanding how many but we do want that resident to be living in a safe unit so whether it was them or not we fix the situation also see how many people the situation would be shouldn't and now we can go about that yeah I don't know how long it takes to wrap but whatever it wasn't that it was the biggest resident they only live in a free year and they come up have we thought anything to do with the liability that we can't have quite too many of them well that's why this is we are checking those boxes first because we got to talk to insurance that we hold just to make sure this is our idea of what we'd like to do but just to make sure because the problem that we are afraid of we are apparently we have a method policy we are entering a policy new people even going to that same company are not getting those policies we need to protect that policy at all costs so doing this in a preventative way is good there's also risk we need to assess and keeping especially everything low level keeping it out of our deductible and keeping it out of claims as much as we can and that may be that's part of the insurance policy we can really work with them and demonstrate how over time the cost of remediation has increased there may be a cost in the front end but it's probably not as significant as what we are finding making an economic burden for them to them partners so we've got a lot of work to do just as an example for our next door I have a townhouse they are estimated about $150 the one here will probably be right around $5 because it wasn't as significant so if we can catch them early where it's not contaminated really early into the war our costs are nothing because we are what our deductible would have been so what is the cost of that? the new one yeah I would say based on the trend what we are seeing probably close to $150 the whole brand new one every time there's capital to do it for more money correct everything the last event this week is going to add to everything the only thing that's still there is a sped and some hikes everything that was in the living room behind the gravel had to be cut out too the problem is anything that supports service yeah you know I told Lisa I know at one point we would look at some type of stainless steel over the walls in the room and then you texture and paint over that because then all you're going to theoretically do is to remove the paint texture and paint the stainless steel and go back you know those are things we're going to start looking at is that's the biggest concern the numbers are so high that of course it's a big scare it's between houses like that but we have to deal with the police typically people those three times is fine for you so is that the level of cooking? yeah for years as well but we have some suspicions so check the police reports daily when we were telling the residents when we talked to them when we were telling the residents we're getting police reports so they haven't got that message we'll just keep sending them well this one last time I went at the sweets they came up on the Boulder County arrest record solved the name they weren't arrested here in Longla they were arrested for a formation violation they had a hot UA with their probation officer so we worked with our local police to give the information from the report to Christine for the eviction those are all public records interesting to have that system I saw Tracy she's writing multiple dollar lines she's writing multiple dollar lines well I think we have to carefully do that for other ones well that's fine we got to work with them and protect that policy positive note the manager and the resource specialist have started having weekly coffees with the residents they just sit in the common area and invite the residents to stop in with the sweets and the different personalities and the types of people there they have activities because they have their personalities so the manager and resource specialist sit in the common area and just make themselves available for those who want to communicate and if they try to connect them with other residents who may have similar personal gardens personalities who might want to walk together so some are volunteering together so we just started this a couple weeks ago and it's so far so good the residents are really liking it they had about 15 residents participate as the most senior house construction replaced part of the second floor up here on this north wing two weeks ago because the subfloor what was it, was mill functioning causing the blind hole to break so we've done the test flooring we're going to watch that for two months and then possibly have to come back and do the whole building so this floating floor methodology installation methodology is having issues everywhere that's been installed especially I mean it's generally fine but once you put walkers on it it catches any little thing and it just gets worse and worse so we are watching to see how it performed the new method that they did in the install in that hallway see how it performs specifically with walkers and other things on the floor and then we'll come up with a plan for is it the material? it's the subfloor so it's this noise attenuation floating layer that they're taking out and redoing so it is like it's a warranty issue this is not an LHA issue we're not the only properties that are doing this so nobody's going to do this type of installation again what's happening? is it the material that they expect? because it's the material in the way that it's supposed to be manufactured in this floating mechanism it's a combo it's some kind of a manufacture thing we do have it at school referring back to UNI Care currently waiting for this it was a low contamination so that one will just be professionally cleaned by the contamination company and then retested and then hand it back over to us so that we're only expecting about six weeks to be down we are working two evictions one for felony trespassing and one for we stay at violations I did speak to our attorney the other day and he did state that if any residents reach out to the university council members anybody about evictions just tell them to contact our attorney because they are in that legal process name ahead, the method contaminated unit will begin reconstruction actually this week the adjuster approved the bid the unit cost to exceed our coverage amount so we will have to pay for that and they sent us our check already we should be getting that this week as well as the CBDG grant we have approved for the playground and the security cameras of the neighborhood Friarwood, Carol touched on this the veterans community project has a group of volunteers fixing up and then we have one unit that we were granted an eviction for on Friday for not having a run for four months just wanted to make a suggestion about the playground if whoever you use to design and build that wants to put in a good line I don't know if you guys heard about the recent cottonwood park they already had two kids injured one was a pretty bad head so yeah it's not like that they are fun but they are not there a huge liability okay Lisa works with our parks department too because they are pretty good at watching stuff like that Village Place, Katnickville she is the former manager of Spring Creek Fall River is transitioning over to Village Place we have kind of an AP transition work out some residents at Fall River Spring Creek don't feel like she just happened to let them because I know that's been some shaky ground over there they really feel abandoned by everybody so Rachel hired a new manager Rachel she started two weeks ago so she is concentrated on Fall River right now and Kat and her working together on Spring Creek we have a new Village Place part-time and then they are slowly going to ease her out and over to Village Place full days and Rachel is coming from London she already has a bunch of experience so she should be a good fit she used to have five properties that she managed at the same time so she is taking the two Spring Creek Fall River we have new sections from London part of the I'm a little weary they wish it well but we have two London people and they ruined us so I who was that that was Noofy and the gal that sold 5000 came over and they that was the old place yeah but they were both from London and I'm like okay felt like a conspiracy to ruin it so just came over and dominated with one life and we are pretty popular, we feel like we made some good hires recently so well no one is that new director so they kind of had a definite change over too they have a new media I feel better now no one is actually very good they have always done really cool things they had a dip of some sort but they have always done beautiful stuff so I'm I'll give her a chance I'll give her a chance I'm just gonna keep looking twice forgive but never forget I'm totally forgiving so for herself Spring Creek we are just in a methamphetamine unit there too it was another lower scale just required the testing the cleaning and then every test so we're hoping to have that unit back in our inventory in the next week as soon as those test results come in in a lot of coffee conversations we have an ice cream social fire department is supposed to attend but they got on a call so they did not attend so we just had an elongated ice cream social there new manager Rachel like I said hired and cats transitioning over to Village Place and then we got the CBTG grant for the security cameras at Spring Creek as well Fall River the new manager same thing the CBTG grant for the cameras there and then we had one who resident that we were granted invictions for on Friday for not came or run for multiple months Lisa, I have a question and this actually came up and I was doing interviews over there and I went by this group just to double check I believe this is a resident that lives there with the truck and they got all of that man and he is my attorney so he is I think he's skipping to a court not just maybe July 1st trying to think because I have we're only allowed 2 cases a week so I have like 8 pending so he's been posted he's entered multiple notices we've already posted the technical possession so I actually swing by there on a regular basis and have multiple photos where it was worse than I normally it's still late at night I think it's worse and then probably it's now made its way to the picnic table it's adjacent to it so we're going into the process in front of our area the motorcycle actually is his too so he has all that area multiple times my maintenance guys have disposed of the items I've sent an email we've been on Saturdays and Sundays and we're going to see if there's a safety hazard out there and I will call him leave a voicemail to send him an email go post a notice on his door he says you have 3 hours for a new list of items or I will have maintenance sort of like he's had solids out there in the middle of a neighborhood there's just so much gasoline I work with maintenance daily on that almost it changes yeah it's still there is somebody staying here? staying at home sometimes when somebody there will be like a TV there's a TV or something I was going to talk to you about we'll catch up but yeah I've seen lights and TVs on there someone was stepping in front of his front door and then they were across the halls in the picture so the attorney gets pictures almost daily of what the outside looks like and what the inside looks like so that one is yeah look at those I sent okay it's still two court cases a week so she's basically every Friday yeah we have a Friday morning meeting and I do some of the parks a lot of the courthouse and I hold topics with them on teams walking in and like okay I got to go through security network I think we should change that meeting yeah parks over the lodge fill the maintenance position our duke at Heiner Kelvin has been an asset to LHA already oh I heard more things about him they love them at the sweets just as an example he's at parks on the lodge but the sweets we had one of the big AC units go down he's certified he was actually consulted for our H&M mechanical he's done a lot of our work over the years so he came in assessed it all found the part from the last one in the state of Colorado and Dave picked it up on Saturday rented a crane did all the work in house for less than 3,000 the bits were over 12,000 so yeah they said that they love him because he just gets stuff done he's not he's very resourceful and quick and responsive he came with all his own tools even everything you could ever think of yes this is a fully stocked workshop and skills go more so you go with him I'm on the maintenance side I've been really good because now we have we have two certified employers so instead of contracting that out they can do it as a city we could actually consult with them on our employers because we don't have anyone certified on the employers so just the level of expertise that they brought in and at the end of the day what about Hearthstone we had two elevator contracts probably bought them up in budget meetings before we had two elevator contracts last year it's been fighting them to the nail to get that second one cancelled we just got that cancelled last week by a grant from the security cameras and a grant from the parking lot repairs Hearthstone we do have it's not on here the elevator has been down for a week but not today they tracked down the part that went missing via FedS but they have it the company says they have it so they're supposed to be there this morning to start the repairs we've tried Mickey Mouse repairs we've tried everything they tried to fix the current it was a board that was out unfortunately not manufactured anymore they tried to repair our board ordered a new one and the grant from the parking lot repairs the open positions we have here are still looking to open the Hearthstone position that will replace our contract with Hearthstone we're actually working to move that on the city's hiring process that position we posted last October it's just been on Indeed and other forums I'm working with the city right now to bring it under exam so that we can hopefully streamline the hiring process and be that in faster than we should we have a higher Hearthstone we are recruiting still for an assistant manager for the LHA tax credit properties which will help fill in a gap here at Aspen Meadows and probably Village Place with a few other properties we have one right now but we need the second one to replace Aaron Robinson and our building attended positions went live last week which is to replace the suite security which currently we do not have security at the streets but our maintenance team is stepping it up and doing every time they have an on-call after hours and all the weekends they're going over and doing a sweep of the grounds put an eye on it and ask for extra to follow through with the police in the meantime Alright, on to HRCables So we're facing progress from March to April but my account is taking any of the past residents that have balances due and monitoring that first letters went out, second letter went out and then once the third letters went out basically saying we're turning you over to collections Determining what that threshold is still needs to happen and I don't think we've done that it's $100 that's more to write off than actually send it to collections so that's something we probably wouldn't want to add but my error was a keen error, I had to add it too much into the ask and those and we're going to go ask maybe the question about not matching the financials and that was just the additional amount in there so I'll make sure I double check that Other than that the managers are doing their resiliency reports on any current residents but we're monitoring tracking and then Heather has also started now that we're in our summer mode and her eye's over that she has started looking at all the other tenants, she's been working on the suites with Corinne and stuff like that to actually take a look at those letters, a lot of what was happening is it's just on the wrong side it's you know charged the subsidy or vice-versa but you have to do the corrections to get it on the right ledgers and we found that when we broke off the old past tenants it caused chaos in the system because that is what was occurring so so that's does anybody have any questions on the addressing rule? I mean you're going to see some amount start going up because of the meth units asking the most neighborhood and all the ones that were mentioned they're going to get those charges back to them I know that we've actually I know there was discussion at one of our meetings where what is the charge? Are we charging at full costs that were incurred because we're getting insurance? I don't know that we've ever really decided that mechanism of charge back I know it was asked for any of the tenants information do we just go when we just go out there are deductible costs on the overage do we trust that? That's what I don't know That's the attorneys that have figured make sense for the attorneys they call the insurance attorneys it's a very good claim that nothing will spend their money on it or they may maybe want to add it to our claim for the insurance if we just we figure our premiums in the end will increase I would say we want to go out if we can when you said collections are those just past tenants but if you're going out there for collections are those even current tenants as well? We haven't really decided current tenants it's only been past tenants at the moment I know they're trying to work with the current tenants and then it usually comes to the eviction process So that's all current past tenants and try to get payment if we can for those current tenants if they're having issues or give them resources or additional subsidy if they can get it So part of it is they are partnering with different organizations and trying to catch people up but in the catch up they're also evaluating whether or not they can stay caught up and so even some of the partner organizations may or may not assist an individual if they don't feel like they can stay caught up once they're based on it so there's another piece of that conversation You got your current rent plus a passive rent Right and you don't catch them up if they think they can stay current once they catch them up but there's been some conversation on some of the current rent we'll just be back in in some extra months How are you going to things? So there's a couple of properties both Aspen Mills neighborhood and Spring Creek where we're over the vacancy dollar status budget so that is due to I don't know about Spring Creek for sure but I've definitely asked didn't you for a considerable amount of time so C concerns there the other concern was obviously stone removal we went over budget and in some properties not all we are also kind of getting close because we haven't hired our intention was to have a custodian in house sooner than later and so since we have to through third party organization we'll get to a point where we're also going over budget in that area if we don't get a custodian hire soon because we didn't accommodate for the price that comes from third party vendor Are you just moving that to the city position? Yeah, well we posted it last October before we were incorporated with the city so I'm working with Emily over there to get the whole unit and those are individual items that we're seeing go over budget we're not going over budget annually but those are some of the situations that we're seeing on the financial so if you're up on June 6, 2015 that utility expense is quite that's an error yes I saw that and I actually I stood my count and I go I think I did something wrong here it should be down so that is actually the maintenance expense that's actually most expense majority so you shouldn't see any tenant services expense that 329 is actually what the utility is because we did find that within lease for 615 name they were supposed to actually have utilities in their name and they ever did so there's probably a little portion of that that was paid by us until they got their utilities switched over Center for yeah Do we have all those costs to them or do we have some of those costs? It should be in tenant income I know that Heather for this year so it didn't happen in the prior years but this year in king that came that they had got switched over got charged back to them on that even snow removal no see in their contract it says that we picked them snow removal so that is where yeah so we were not yeah yeah so now there's a driver who is in the village place their main drive wait is the village place off of me so it's just that main drive they're not doing snow removal in those spaces so we can it's just yeah it's just that main it's just the one right in front of the parking spaces but people around the parking do their own sidewalk in the next lease well they're asking for it now because we know this weekend do you want to buy it? do you want to know what their options are because we did tell them we would come back to them in June with the options that may be something we can come back to and we're going to sell it because obviously the budget works not great when the lease rate is maybe more sense to sell that well you've got new places coming up so getting rid of one I mean this is definitely something that we wanted to do it's part of this indication or at least to make sure that you've been tracking down a whole lot of stuff that's what we were waiting for we've got some interesting file reports and for some reason that building is moved in to the tax credits we're trying to figure that all out because we want them separated so that we could we don't need anybody in that building so that just jumping in the heavier about checking our all of our documentation and that was weird because it's actually showing the financials as an LHA property 615 May but it's in the tax credits for Village Plays which is an LHDC property so we had some real weird the title of history is really weird well an even LHDC can't can you show the client's general action if it's where you want it if it doesn't mess up your life cycle would you like to get a name there? I think it's I think it's title under LHA no it's title under LHA yeah I don't know it's good but it's connected to the line tags don't want to be pulled for you we can't draw why we think they probably did they probably did type quite a lot of work in that property because she could have even built her but this is probably the story of the building of LHDC what is the compliance done for Village Plays? for Village Plays so we're in year 15 started January 22 out of 15 years or if we can do something we'll be great I'm curious I can share it can you share it? Stephen Morgan he worked in that project this is very fantastic yeah that's what I said even with certain you can see the twitch it's kind of but speaking of selling something that we thought about as we get more years on what LHDCP gets more established it's really talking to them about the entire product property because there's an affinity and mission in that you know if they're building a 26 tiny house on those beds then we can, as we're bringing new units on and relocate or maybe contract employees that's the way they manage as we have vacancies and then look at employees that sell to them that may start making a lot of sense because we're all trying to house the same population generally and so we think that may help when we capture those same employees in an operational piece and we've been interested in taking the regular ones that people can sell and do quality work do you have a question about my name? vouchers yes, love the vouchers so on 6-1 we have 397 vouchers we have 4 court outs and we have 15 latest vouchers that were in the process issued but still searching they released 5 additional letters they have pre-scheduled for briefings and then 14 have still not responded to our letters so I believe Tracy has gone out for additional to get our funding which also allows us to increase an additional 10 vouchers because we did get some extra not only extra vouchers but extra funding so after June 2 we can add an additional 10 probably because we just can't ever keep up so and I think you'd be correct me if I'm wrong but I think we're going to be going out again for the late list for the voucher because a lot of people that may be determined to eligible or we have a lot of no responses which is really odd because we just dipped a lot of it but we'll work right through that and just hold it up well I know Boulder County needs a whole bunch too because I know some of my residents who I know were accepted to our business bought former county vouchers before that so they people may have just been like oh we got a voucher I don't need to respond we have a lot of participation and a lot of people aren't doing anything so we're increasing our promise area and we can see half of that will be ready after so we'll be adding that back to our next one we'll give you a lot of information well I don't know if it's more in a global level because I've seen this through next slide I think it's that we've also seen a lot of people just leave Colorado and leave this area because it's too expensive but we have to rip so I am pretty sure that probably folding into this is if people have been here trying to apply for vouchers and then they're just saying they're expensive and out and they're moving to other places because we're seeing that when we do our retention work a lot of people are here we're giving we're giving 3,000 to 5 apartments 7 apartments they're lazy here so we need we're trying to do everything we can to help them send people there send people their way or do whatever we can do because we have such years being demonstrated and then we're actually seeing some information so we'll probably go out and since we're going to get some more vouchers we'll pack the next 10 people to be here how long until your refreshment hurts? the way it lasts yearly now and we only selected 150 so we'll we'll get real close to the end we'll go ahead and do another little watering and probably add another 150 we'll do that as many times as we need to we just did it in 50 words I'm really surprised at the number I would say at least 40% of the people I'm not going to get the whole list so it's a high number we're working right through that really quick do we just send a letter? and call we do one courtesy call to be honest I don't answer my phone if I don't do any more yeah these are different stages you can tell me I don't leave this generation of like I love visual voicemail but if you don't leave that's another problem I don't need a car so I'm good I'm sure I might really want you know something you might think about too about forms maybe text or some stuff yeah and we have people come in and check and find out they receive the letter and they haven't looked in their head so we'll do a reasonable combination a lot of people are homeless and so you know they haven't set up appeal box number or they're out of the city at that point so you know we're real flexible about putting them back on if you guys are there they can show that they're homeless anything else anything else I don't know if you guys have been through all of there so I'm good alright another business yes we wish to thank you for all the years of service you contributed to the Long Island Housing Authority as a commissioner as a advisory board member you're a great person it feels like 150 years I appreciate it I'm sorry to cut and run but it's been a journey and I'm glad it's a martyr and I'm really excited with the direction it's taken since I started it's nice to see things both through a rocky patch but I'm really excited better than they were so hot yeah I'm gonna leave it on the upside good time you've been through the trenches well thank you all the lights have been great well I'm from the staff perspective thanks for hanging in there with us I remember the first conversation just staying with us well I remember that first conversation thinking I hope he says yes if he says no I don't know what we're gonna do you have no idea how many prayers behind you what he didn't realize is that afterwards and I can still visually see where we were all sitting in their conference after you left and it was a deer in the headlights look Kathy, Karen and none of us wanted to do this I mean I think that's the but I think we all realize we had to do it and that's when we just said we can't tell now but I think you all hanging with us through this and already coming on in the middle of it right but all of you but just being there at first run I can't tell you how many times I call Karen this is going on here's what's happening I remember a conversation we had when you said well it was when you became chair and you know my wife just wants to know is it going to be more than it is and I said no hopefully it will be less than it was and so just thanks because I know we were in touch yeah it was just good work it's going to be a part of this group yep and now we're doing amazing job work absolutely maybe we can put a bench on it I'm going to see it see it through we'll be happy but just hear it for a little a little clap clap on the toilet oh shit you have to do it I'm a one I'm a one two inches if you're alcohol that's good that's good thank you it's been a pleasure can we have anything else so we'll adjourn and see you in a few minutes see you in a few minutes see you in a few minutes bye