 Man we have seen so much great stuff here at NAMM 2018 here here in Anaheim and you know when it when it comes to microphones You know, I'm always like it's like going to the checkout line in the supermarket with all the gum and candy You got so many choices out there one of the great choices a product I'm familiar with is with vanguard audio and they make great microphones and we have the head guy there Derek Burger, how you doing? Hi, nice to be here George actually you can talk to that one. Oh, yes. I suppose I can Tell us a little bit about the history of your company and why you make microphones. Yeah, so I've been a Electronics guy all my life was a music major in college and pretty quicker quickly figured out Everybody there was better at the making of the music, but I became a facilitator and got into engineering production arranging booking I've done some studio work for VO guys actually as well and Hooked up with my design partner Ken Out of college and worked for him for four years and then we started this company together And I just want to help people make great noises and not sell a kidney to do it You know because that's the choices. I had in college was the $99 mics or the ones where you mortgage your firstborn kid in advance exactly now This is this is the mic that I reviewed last year the v13 What makes this a great mic for voiceover? Oh, well, it's incredibly sensitive. It's a three micron capsule So as Scott rumble put it he has two of these he he said it captures all the nooks and crannies of his voice So it's an incredibly sensitive capsule Also, you can do some natural voicing and EQ with the pattern switch the cardioid Straight up and down it's just right to the front but you can narrow it to increase proximity effect the way that you get proximity effect on a 416 or you can widen it so if You're a mover and talker like myself Then you can actually widen it out a little bit and that'll sweeten the top end and it'll reduce the proximity effect Right and also create more of a lively space. Yes, absolutely. You can capture your space It depends on what you're doing and what the client demands So it's also incredibly quiet takes compression and a EQ exceptionally well But when we used it with Scott rumble and Chris freeze and Bill Rogers and Cammie Dixon and I met all these wonderful voiceover people and They're using it with almost no EQ They might throw the roll off on it But it just manages to sit and cut in fact when I was at Scott's studio and we were demoing this He asked me to try and make it sound like it's 416 So we put it straight up and we actually tweaked his Avalon EQ just two knobs a little bit And he loved it and we actually did a cut for a major motion picture trailer with this And he said let's see if they notice if it's different than the They almost never noticed It's like, oh god, that sounds good. Good take. Yeah What makes a great microphone? What is it that you're putting in here that you don't have to reveal any secrets? But what is it that really makes a microphone stand out from other ones? Well, there's a few things for me Some people prefer a flat microphone I say a microphone should have character and should be able to match a voice and sound Record-ready right to tape as we say for music recording, but the same thing applies for VO The more you tweak things the more things you run it through the more noise the more artifacts you're introducing so for us the science the objective science of low noise and tight tolerances and Things of that nature with the subjective art of why do we like the way things sound? Why do we like this record better than this record? Right? Why do we like this microphone better than that microphone? So what makes a good microphone is very is as part of the ear And so we develop this in studio sessions all over LA We're fortunate enough to be able to test this microphone up against microphones that cost ten times as much Yeah What is it that makes what is it that changes those tolerances? What is it that makes it more more sensitive certainly the capsule? There's a million things about a capsule the size the diaphragm thickness the diaphragm spacing the back plate drilling I could get really nerdy on you try not to yes But the capsule is a huge factor in it ours is a custom voice capsule kin designed it himself It's based on kind of a C12 or AKG 251 capsule But we tweak some aspects of it to give it more bottom in and more ooey gooey warmth like a chocolate chip cookie right out of the Oven you know right right and the presence the mid-range presence that really brings the Intelligibility out because I'm a bit of a slur when I talk and it brings the intelligibility of those those Frequencies out and around 3.5 to 5k Additionally the shock mount is something that you noted yes on the video you can get right up to it and Not have to worry about the spider shock mount in your face So you can work the mic really closely and not have to worry about the shock mount getting in the way if you want to Get that really deep Lafontaine growl you can get right up on there and Even if you have a thinner voice like me you can still get that really bassy tone Yeah, and a much quieter place too. Oh, yeah Well dark it is a pleasure to meet you in the flesh finally after we've talked so many times about this microphone And some of the other microphones you have Great selection of stuff. Thank you so much and thank you so much for stopping by guys. All right vanguard audio Vanguard audio labs calm this one 749 Street