 Alright, so between you and drinks, so if you have to leave you have to leave. I understand. I would leave too So let me try to convince you to stay The talk is let a thousand flowers bloom So we are here in Switzerland and obviously you guys when you lend it if you lend it in Zurich you heard these cows And it's an interesting thing because it turns out that every company Typically if you're successful it means that they have at least one product that makes money and that's typically called the cash But it's also a problem And why is it a problem It's a problem when everybody wants to kill that cat So we IBM Yeah, I won't move we IBM for instance had had multiple cash cows and different companies have them too But the challenge is that you want to find the next cow cow or cash cow and Keep the one that you have because it's generating money, right? So you're protecting it, but typically what happens is that people create the other one and you lose and That's called the innovators deal the innovators dilemma. So that's my twist on it But let me give you some examples. So you guys I've seen me with cameras around And you know that company And I can tell you they dominated for hundreds of years Pretty much photography, right, but they did it with Phil and it turns out Kodak if you go back to their history, you'll see that they invented This thing which everybody now has a modern version of called an iPhone because the iPhone is primarily a camera with other things attached But more importantly is if you go to the history of Kodak, you'll see that they actually had digital camera They invented that and where is Kodak today? I'm not trying to beat on them. They disappeared So that's what happens when you when you don't pay attention to the innovators dilemma Storage is also another very good example We IBM invented storage that was like a one megabyte storage over time Seagate and other companies created one Gigabyte and then over time these things like zip drives came about right and then now all of them disappeared because nobody cares Everybody does SSD. So if you were a company and you were banking on zip drive and you did not try to do the next one Guess what? You're out of business. So this problem is a common problem and I'm citing a very famous Author called Clayton Christensen at Harvard business that What about this? So if you never would that book read that book? I would highly recommend it. That should be one of the business books that you read and It's it's a great book But where am I talking this in the context of Foundry an open source Well, it's because I believe that we also face a similar issue an open source And I call it the open source dilemma and the reason I call it that way And I think it's important is because more and more I work in Cloud Foundry and I love it and I'm happy to be part of the team I see that we have this issue, which is that how do we keep? Relevant when the rest of the world is trying to play in our game, right? I'm not gonna make a lot of people happy I'm sure my colleague here Richard will be okay with what I'm gonna say next But some other people want for instance Kubernetes is kicking our ass in some parts of it, right? Not all of it in terms of cloud, but there are some parts of it So how do we make Cloud Foundry more relevant better and so on now today's announcements were great because it's making the two Products were better, but I would argue that we could have been there Because we were there way before them We have probably just as much talent and we thought about similar problems And I think part of the reason we are not there and we have some issues is because we have this open source dilemma I think and it's not just and container management orchestration piece. It's in various places now Obviously there are places that we are ahead and we're doing quite well, but the point I'm making is Let's try to not let our cash cow prevent us from innovating. Okay, and the solution for this Well, here are other examples. So Apache struts. I don't need to say anything about that, right? Like you remember that one, right? Tomcat unfortunately similarly right have experienced similar problems meaning they are open source projects that have not kept up Now, maybe it's a good thing. Maybe it's fine, but I don't want this to happen to Cloud Foundry And I think you guys I I do right so how do we solve this problem? So here's one example, and I'm not saying it's the only solution there are other ways to do it I firmly think it's about let's a thousand flowers blow what I mean by this is every single one of you and everybody else That's interested in car foundry when they have an idea to extend it to make it better to change it to remove the guts Puts another one because Cornelius here has a great engine that he built in Germany We should listen to him and accept his contribution and work with him That's what I mean by a thousand flowers, and it's a very common solution to the innovators dilemma So let's make that happen by embracing extending so Good thing is And again as I said this is one way there are maybe other ways and this also which might be a problem because like when you have a Thousand flowers some of them are gonna be weeds, you know, how do you get rid of them? So so there's issues here. So I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's a solution So how do you participate and solve this because we have a solution for it is we created this thing called CF extensions Which is a process and a PMC for any one of you to come to me and to the other people in the PMC and say I have an extensions for cloud foundry I have a way to do things better and I want to be at the table I want other people to know about it and so on so that's the process and we have a way for you to participate It's pretty easy. We added Project where if you tag Basically a topic to your project your repo with CF extension It's in a community or an order cloud foundry projects, then it will automatically be added. There's a list of it I don't have time to show you but you can definitely look at that. Of course, you can ping me there's a slack channel for it and We have monthly calls So where's the proof? Kubo that came out of that, right now Evidently Pivotal worked with Google before name they came to me and And to be fair They would have done it no matter what so it's not like because they came to me Okay, so let's be honest about that, but they are the project so like Like SAP has the service fabric that they're submitting Pivotal submitted PBR IBM did their backers and we're looking for more So I just listed some of the more famous ones, but there are tons more so Let's keep cloud foundry relevant That's of course not fragmented and things like that. So I'll be I'll try to do the best I can But let's make a thousand flowers bloom. So that's my