 It is my sincerest hope of the sisters that you are enjoying the show. We have been going around live since 7 in Zahehem and we go live Monday all the way through Friday to daily show and the name is White in the Morning, the littiest show around in this here town. At 2-5-4 on Facebook, at 2-2-5-4 on Twitter, hashtag is the White in the Morning Karibuni Sana. Once again, if you've just joined us, it's okay, it's never too late to be here and in case you miss an interview that you want to watch it again for sure at Y-2-5-4 channel on YouTube, it's a place to be. But Mihoa, it's about that time, it's Man Crush Monday time, and our topic of discussion today is Queshan, clear throat. Guys, would you prefer a modern woman versus a traditional woman? So we'll kind of break this down, what is a traditional lady and what is a modern lady? Figure out which one you'd prefer, I guess, question mark, I don't know, I'm just here to moderate. Talk to us, don't forget, because you're important and your opinion matters. But in the meantime, come and let us say hello to our panelists, how are you? Thank you. I'm Jocula. Hi. How are you? How are you? Are you married? Yes. I was two, I was born when I was two. How was the family? You spend time growing? Have you ever had a kid? Do you even know what that is? When I grow, I grow and the kid grows. The kid grows and I grow. Aha. So you want to know, in case they've never seen you before? Okay. Since I was a little girl, I had a bit of a burden in my life. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I like starting with the kings and then finish with the queen. Alright. What's your name? I go by the name Kipi Moi Juma. Kipi Moi Juma Dumelo. That's my name. Wow. What do you do? I'm a student, commercial model and of course an entrepreneur. Please give us your social media handle. Social media is Kipi Dumelo. That is on Twitter. Yes. That's true. I've been on Facebook and Instagram since I was a model. I was there, but I pulled out due to some reasons. Why? What did they do? I wanted to do some starts in Yamaji Kwanzaa. And then when I come back, I can build a brand. You see, for months we were like really joking with social media. And you see, social media is very powerful. So, we can't joke with it anymore. So, we have to go back to Japan and then we come to Kotaeri. Let's see who is the model. I'm handsome, bro. Hey, who is the model? I'm sorry. Two persons from media handles, please. Okay. Karibisha Rongo. On Facebook, Baden Flizzo. Instagram, Baden Flizzo. On Twitter. Baden Flizzo. On where? On Twitter. On Twitter. Hi, I'm Queen. Talk to me. I'm Michelle. On Instagram, I'm Michelle Nicole. On Facebook, I'm Michelle Nicole. What do you do, Michelle Nicole? I'm a student. What do you study? Nursing. Aww. Yeah. What type of education do you have? I'm stronger to say after the break. So, tell me, what do you feel as a queen? Do you see yourself as more traditional or more modern? Okay. I value both, but I think as women, we need to revisit back. We need to look back and see the importance of embracing tradition because of our families. For the sake of our kids. And the same way, we value our grandparents and we look up to them so much for advisers. I think we don't need to lose that direction. At the same time, we need to go forward in terms of development, in terms of equality. Yes. But it should not be a factor that will bring health in children in terms of mental health, in terms of bringing our children, in terms of many factors, family factors. As we know, family is the basic unit of the society. If we feel in terms of bringing our families together, bringing in those pillars, pillars that were brought up in the past, you know? I am feeling that you are leaning more towards traditional, with the opposite being modern, who is a lady who's more into her career. Right. We have traditionally, as Africans, We operate with our children, those old-fashioned children, at the time. They were 18 or 17, 19. And in our 20s a lot of people came toママ's. According to the research I have undertaken, we feel that I am feeling that ladies empowerment before we finish what we feel we need to do When I was born I was born I was born in a modern family I was born in a modern family I was born in a modern family You feel it's so good to be the two You are modern You are a modern investor I have a lot of tutorials I will show you how to do it I will show you how to do it I will show you how to do it So as I was saying You are modern You are an investor You have to invest You invest You invest You invest You are traditional You have to invest You are a young man You need to know how to do it To be a better trader You need a double chance If you invest You are an investor You must have a chance You need to hit two birds at once Queen has something to say But what would you do before that What would you do So this whole is about modern and traditional women. You see, according to me, in a modern set of bright Sa'ib le tukos asa hivi, you see, men would wish to have women who are empowered, women who are skilled, women who are productive, women who are more of an asset than liability. Apart from that, as a man for you to stand strong in a society, you need a woman who is enshrined in actually the cultures and norms of our people. You see, a woman who is educated, a woman who is empowered without the culture. You know, culture is the basis of everything. A woman who is not there and who will never be there to observe or respect her moral obligations towards a man, towards a man. That is not a woman. So according to me, as far as I'm concerned, traditional women are more productive. You see, in a traditional setup, women used to do almost everything, apart from just making a man to stand in the society. Women could cook, women could actually bring up a family and bring the sense of unity and understanding in a family. In the sense of a woman in a family, you see a lot of chaos have taken place, a lot of issues have taken place. But when there is a woman, that is a strong bond. You see, and that woman, to be there for the family, in a manisha lazima koena, tamaduni na mela zaki afrika. It's not a modern woman by an enslaved man. Like, a good example to na pasakoni, modern society in America. You see, women are always after money, after men. You get married to this one. Onamali zanai, a few years. You demand a divorce, na katana mali, and all that. So it may ko ni bieshara. But you see, in an African setup, when you get that lady, and by anata subi zaki afrika, na tamaduni na mela, amifuni shua. You see, it's been passed from generation to generation. That's a productive woman. Uena tpima, uena tpima. I think productive woman. Okay, meneza, ua cia tunitete. For the first time, ua cia tunitete, madem kidogo. Because, okay, there is being modern and there is being traditional. All these two, to kumbuken ni jina, modern, a tradition, izo ni jina. The fact remains that being given the title modern means it is accepting the system of civilization. Do it way, a modern. So Ngodja, what we're saying is, traditional ako reserve sayi, ako ushago. Sayi as we speak. No, me, ako ni do watu wanga piwo. The meaning traditional i mani shi eti lasi mo kue ushago. Nivile sasa, how you present yourself is different. Na ui mingina na jio, na e si jui, me bia li fika kampa ui waku fika sana, ita ui traditional. That's where the difference come in. But all of them, it's just because of the difference of the perception or the way you pick yourself as a lady. Yeah, but Kenyama, so much, I don't believe him because, yes, he said in Western countries, wastana yana wa chagua wanya na hela sundo, that rich people and all these things. But even in a traditional African setting, won't we go for the one who has more cows? Yeah? Wanya ako na kukumu ob maze. You see the same? It's just that we're counting wealth in a different way and manner. In fact, at ako culture flanee, manau me, aizi kwa na bibi moja, aka e kwa meza zingine. Na kuna ya bibi moja, na kuna ya bibi two plus and others. You see, in the traditional African setup, we used to have, love was built in the basis of love, in the basis of pure love that was married, was built in the basis of pure love and understanding women could sit down, a single out, a very young, fine guy, you see, or a guy singling out a very fine lady in an African setup. You see, umekatini and you single out, you actually look at many, many things. See, ope sepeke ake. Un angale nengine. The moral of bringing of this guy is it choosing a perfect. Sai mingumu. Sai all of, let me say, majority of ladies who have a focus kodo, trust you mate. Abu pate atrin. A ongae aki. They're assassinating your character as a female. Help. Okay, I wanted to correct my brother here. He said modern is investments. And I wonder if modern is investment, what about that woman who decides to quit a profession to go back and take care of her kids? And then the husband gives her money to start a business and maybe buying cows and selling them, you know? Yeah. I don't say if or rearing cows and milking them and selling milk, is that not investments? Yeah. Cause I think when it comes to modern, there are values. Okay, modern women will say, I am modern because of my job because I'm single mother. I don't need a husband cause after all, I'm paid well. Yeah, yeah. Why do you have a job? You have money. That means you can do what you want. So that's being modern. It's not being traditional. According to me, I don't want to go to Africa because I don't want to go there. And these are the people who are bringing actually cheating in a race. Because when you go to the market, you have to preserve yourself. You have to go to the market. So, I don't want to go to the market so that at least we also have a balanced way of life. There's no other way. There's no other way. There's no other way. There's no other way. There's no other way. There's no other way of life. There's no meaning between modern and being traditional. How you carry yourself was the main point here. Can I just ask you a question but bring the first slide to your attention. Has empowerment changed the game? That's our first slide of the day. Has empowerment changed the game? For example, I want two single mothers. Let me tell you a story of a single mother. She's a mother of two. And she feels she's modern. She does not need... She's been given all the empowerment she needs. Anything a man can do, a woman can do better. So, I want her to be like that. And then cater for her children or her child along the way. But there are people who are family and who are equal. But they are like that. And they are like that. They are like that. They are like that. They both not single mothers. They are like that. They are like that. So, is it really their fault? And is that really a difference between a modern and a traditional woman? You see, there's a difference. A modern woman. You see this matter of empowerment. You've just said empowerment. And the gender equality and the gender styles. All of us have had feminists and all that. These are the things that Zimechangia marriages to break out there. The marriages are not lasting. Relationships nowadays are games. Why? Because of empowerment? Because of empowerment, ladies are taking it too far. You know, when we want to be recognized as equal, we might be equal to some extent. It doesn't mean that now a lady has power over her man. But the man remains in control. Yes, the man remains in control because as a woman, according to the African setup, you have moral obligations to perform to your man. You have to adhere to the principles that come and make a mutual understanding. Now, at the end of the day, it remains that you have your moral obligation to perform to your man. In which nowadays, in a modern society, setup, women are different. In equality and empowerment, women are equal. You cannot tell them anything because we are equal. So when we are equal, we have equal bargaining power. So women are equal. I think there's a point that we agreed on when we said that the modern woman, the traditional woman, called a traditional belief, and the modern woman has been empowered. Yeah, he's been empowered. Now you're feeling that you're empowered. I'm corrupted, according to me. Yeah, but he said if you were in a travel scenario where you have to, one is to invest, that is the modern one. So you're okay to pay money. I don't want to spend money. Investment? See, I find you are the modern woman. When you look back at the traditional setup, we find that at times when men could lack, or when they couldn't, they've gone to look for food, to cater for the family. Now, when they come back, you'll find that at this clever traditional woman, the basis and the foundation of family must be saved. So you guys don't go and sleep hungry, you know, because there's a lady, and along the foundation's culture to build a family must be saved. So you won't go or you won't sleep at the end of the day. Yeah, but they don't understand that. At least they understand the development and how to bring up families, isn't it? Because all I'm hearing is the girl child has been over-empowered at the end of the day. But when you're at 2-11, before they spend it with you. After a few months, we are still not moving forward in terms of empowerment. So we can escape back. That's the whole problem, you know. To escape back because ladies are trying to compete with us. Which it can't happen. Yes, it can happen. You can't compete with men. Even if you can do what a man can do, you can do better. Remember, the ones who began it so that you copy so that you are looking for a strategy to better us. What ladies don't understand I'll say it in a different way. We don't get broke. It's just it's just like a financial a financial flaw. There is a shortage that can be seen. There is a shortage. There is a shortage. There is a shortage. So if a woman maybe even the money that you are making maybe inherited from the father from the dad or something like that. So you come to see that. You come to see that. Nothing this man can tell. So it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like that even twice just because of show off. You want to show me that you can overpower me yet, because you invested from somewhere else to come and show off to me. It's just like it's just like it's just like It's just like ok I'll direct it I think the boy child and me In my humble opinion education, you know, taking care of ourselves every month, you know, hygiene. But not necessarily, I think it may be a point to remember, okay, you don't need a man to do this, or you don't need anyone, not really a man, to help you do certain things. So an answer of Kirao, they can do it by themselves, which is actually true. There are some things you don't need anyone else to do. Now that you don't need anyone else to do it, I agree. Empowerment comes with its advantages and disadvantages. And I think it's a good thing. At the same time, people have overused it. Like, when you're giving away your money, you don't need anyone else to do it. You don't need anyone else to do it. You don't need anyone else to do it. You don't need anyone else to do it. You don't need anyone else to do it. Once you're giving away your money, you don't need anyone else to do it. You don't need anyone else to do it. So that's where people are used to it. Like, when you're giving a drug, such as the one you're trying to seduce, you're doing it as an emotion, you're trying to seduce and seduce. If someone else says, oh, what am I doing? I'm just trying to seduce. No one else. Like, if I'm given that opportunity to take that drug. I'm over. Okay, I'm exploiting it, you know? I'm using it against the proper prescription. It's good that we are empowered, yeah we are lucky. But when it comes to that we don't have to to after all I have my job, I earn, I am my right. I'm actually working and I'm working and I'm not even singing. Imagine. I love it. You see, that thing really makes the society, OK. We will start viewing the society as evil. Like the women now, they are evil. The women now, they don't want to take care of the kids. The women now, they are getting too much. They are getting too much. So I say, come and be empowered, make sure we make this family a nice thing. It's a blessing to have a husband, yeah, care for your kids. Show them that this husband is needed, this father is needed in this house. And as a wife, you don't have to at the level of being picky, you know. You know, we were in a group of women. We were in a group of women. We were in a group of women. It's a blessing to have a husband. Because ladies, let's just have an honest moment in our lives. Just all honesty. There is no more. There is no more. Even if you empower me to call, it's a blessing to have a husband. Those are the same things. You see, those are the things that are a blessing to have a husband. Because we might talk about being traditional, going more down, going tradition. But the fact remains that this is 21st century, you understand. So there are a lot of things we are not going to change because of a new generation technology in India and all that, a lot of corruption. Do you understand? So we are not going to get the exact woman to get some few centuries ago. We are not going to get the exact woman to get some few centuries ago. Women have gone banana. I can say women have gone banana because they are out of control. They are out of control. They are out of control. In the name of empowerment. To do they want their right. The girl child doesn't have the right to do that. But who is she? As a woman, their roles must be chosen as a girl child, their roles must be clear in the Bible, it's clear in the Holy Book of Quran, it's clear in most of the traditions. Men were fast. And that has to be respected. And the things you are supposed to do to your man, modernity and the more digital thing doesn't make you, doesn't make you like, let me say, powerful or more skilled or empowered. No. You as a woman, you know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. You understand? You know what I'm talking about? Your husband, some staff. You know what women nowadays are often things to do with that. You know, I've been waiting for you. I've been waiting for you guys to use this one word, one word. And I want to say the highlight of this entire topic. Submission. Which brings me to my next slide. I know you have anticipated this slide. It is here. I am ready to express myself now. A woman is expected to be submissive. What does that mean? A woman is expected to be submissive. What does that mean? I don't know enough. Okay. Okay. I agree to that. What does it mean? Okay. Submission is lowering your pride for once. Then talk things out. Yeah. Lowering your pride. Okay. Like, for example, if you are the wife, and there's a husband, of course, as a wife, if there's an argument in that house and you see you are the only person that can make peace, why don't you just agree to that term for once? Yeah. Agree to that demand. Come on, Miss Maleo, Wendy. You know, on Amahali. You know, that place is not as important as your family, you know. It's not that important than your family. So I think you have to submit. Yeah. What is that? That's what I'm saying. So it's just, apart from giving birth to kids, you're supposed to come and you have to maintain the house and make sure the house is safe. All the time it's taken care of all the kids. The nurse is taken care of to the kids as in… That happens if she's doing nothing. happens if she's doing everything which if she's submissive but she makes more than you does that make you feel less of a man just so one's a cut after traditional so someone you have a cup of water what if she's a mixture of both what if she knows what she's supposed to do and I just cuz you're getting what he has some one in a way yes and I took a job but I can't do I'm tight no and if I took as you give it to her and I couldn't let her cool on me what he but at the end of the day she makes more money than you does that threat so long as so long as so long as there's that respect right you are if there is respect nothing will go come on respect me anyway She made a very specific point. And immediately after this question is answered, social media to say, so please make your way over there at WhiteFive on Facebook, at White254 channel on Twitter, hashtag is Y in the morning. I'm so excited to see you. So she said something about I don't think going out tonight is a good idea. Now there are very different reactions to that. I'm submissive. She's very fine. She's very okay. How can you, where do you find the courage to start giving her orders? You see, since we want to, you people are forcing us to buy this idea of gender equality and stuff. So we are equal. We are equal in this marriage. We have equal bargaining power. We are going to bring issues on the table, ideas, we ponder on them and we go with the best ones. So when you're man, you're not going out today and I'm a stipulate reasons as to why I feel like you should go out today. And the majority are important and they are to the benefit of you and the marriage. You understand? There is an interest of the marriage at heart. So if you want to agree, you discuss. Come up with more points, you should not go. Then you go out and you'll have to stay in the house. I'm not going to stay in the house. I'm going to go to high school. I'm not going to stay in the house. I'm just going to stay in the house. Nature is calling you instead of staying in the house, you'll have to stay in the house. Excuse me, can I please go? And you're still here. So that's what you're telling me. I'm talking to you, you're grown. You're still here. You're still in high school. You're still here. Now again, now that I'm making my own money, now I start asking you. You're still here. That's why you were taught. No, no, I was just talking. You're still here. No, no. No, no, no, no. In my house, you're here. We are now reading social media. Staki, social be there. Okay. We have Gregory Hunky Joneses. What's up with the trend? You're still here. The reason I am here is because of you, men like girls, how are you asking me? And we have savior Maestro Mula says modern women are better than modern women because of their behavior orial characteristics. What matters is the true love between the two of us as much as we are faithful. True hearted caring for each other than date will usually be more awesome I say. Because once you invite them to a date they will not enjoy the purpose of it but with busy bench marching for another upcoming date and giving you marks over another date. Traditional women won't even care, I'm a witness of it. Nibs Technical Courage, College Railroad Kimbo Tuned. Honorable Silver Sister again. Hi there, I support the traditional women. Modern women think by getting education they can now urinate on worlds like men. Weh! At Tivale I never meant to hurt you modern women but my plan is to show you that I understand. Oh baby, I'd like to think I'm a bit of both. Godwin Sonlito. While the traditional women make a perfect date because they are serious in relation to making more so they have respect and love for you. Eh! Ya ni yao modern o kuna kireere, that's what we are saying. And ma'am James has discussed this topic as long as the relationship is mature and you love each other ha kuna kito kita wazui. Patrick Sir. While our traditional traits make good dates because they are always strict when it comes to relationship. Zipi Mogure says good morning. Good morning Zipi. Ibrahim Balan says a date, poa ina ni dem ame chanuka. Modern women, not traditional ones una pelika out. Uki mo Lisa ut ata kula ni ni. She's like kamaya koto. He he he. Oh, atonga ro wachi imba. Thank you Ibrahim. Keep courage by going says kuchanuka or not has nothing to do with making a good date. Unto aki kam, nai le ro ho ya. I'm going to meet someone special. Then definitely the date will be awesome. I like that. Hi Imajames. Good morning to you too. Elvis, Ivan and Nigeria, perfect date and depends on mentality. They are modern or traditional heels in the association too. Kwanisato kuliyanda aze. I see Imajames again. Chris Wafulas is from Muayyagi in the girl one. Kolok'tha ni tamati. Hey, Eman James and Orisa Alex Waliapa. Alex, who is your MCM? I'm not too sure that question can be answered, but I have already sent it. So remember it's Y2F4 on Facebook, at Y2F4 channel on Twitter. Hashtag is YMTOMORNING. So we got to go. It's about that time. So we're going to give our last comments, last guys, in a sentence or two. We'll start with you, sir. All right. Personally, I'm not going to despise the modern women. What I'm going to say is that whether modern, whether traditional, women are women, they should be mutual respect and understanding in any given relationship and agendas to move us to the next step. Queen. Okay. What I want to say is, despite the modernity, okay, being modern and being empowered, women should embrace a little bit of tradition. And then, okay, breastfeeding. You realize women nowadays, because they're working, they don't want to breastfeed their children. It's so important to do that. So actually, you want to keep yourself fit. No. Think about that child. Yeah. Think about that child's future and his health. And I'm also talking about politics in Baringo. I want him to wind up on the set topic, please. Thank you. Remember, Y2F4 on Facebook. Okay. What I'll just say. Also, either with modern or with traditional, what all of you are women, all of you are Africans, we love all of you. And men. Men. Okay, let us try to find also a video extraordinary. I did not see that coming. I did not see that coming. All right. So we have three questions. I will read as we close up. Why is the modern lady so questionable? Is it a mass modern woman, they look good without it? Okay. Another good question. Saviour from embassies. Why can't modern women disclose their finances? The traditional woman. Hey, basically, WCW on Wednesday, but tomorrow is entrepreneurial Tuesday and it's money making day. You don't want to miss it. 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