 We're here at ITU Telecom World 2017 in Busan in the Republic of Korea, and I'm very pleased to be joined in the studio today by the Minister for ICT for Ethiopia, Peter Breds and Michael. Minister, thank you very much for being with us. Thank you for inviting me too. Now I'd like to start off by talking to you about the Leadership Summit where you just came off the stage from, and you just spoke about visions of smart societies. Perhaps you could share a little bit about what your vision is with us here. Of course, well, I'm sure you know very well why we need this digital transformation. It's about changing the life of our people. We want to address a number of issues, can be developmental issues on health, education, poverty, services, and unless we use digital intervention, digital technology, we cannot transform the whole thing. So this digital intervention is a transformative intervention that makes life easier. So we have to have a very comprehensive approach towards it, and when we say transformation, it's not just about using IT, although IT is the main component, information technology. You have to change the mind of people. It's about transformation, it's not about just incremental change. It's about doing things a new way. So there must be a shift from the traditional way of doing things. So we have to work on the mind of people. They just have to understand that they should not do the same thing the way we have come all over, be it the government, the private sector, the citizen. So that's why it is transformative. Therefore, all citizens must be on board, government, private sector, everyone. If you lose any one of them or even some part of them, then there is no transformation. So we give a lot of importance and weight for this digital transformation, and that's why we have to approach it's a very comprehensive kind of approach. Because itself is a comprehensive change. It has to be dealt with a comprehensive approach. So we have a very concerted effort plan that prioritizes the engagement, as I said, different sectors, different stakeholders. So it's about changing the world we live in. So it is very vast for us when we talk about digital transformation. And what are the major challenges, you think? Well, the main one I was just mentioning about the issues. One is the mindset. Mindset is very important. If the mindset is not right, then even if you have the technology, you are not going to use it in good use. So all of us have to be ready to move from what we are used to do. So the readiness of, well, it starts from the government again, the privacy and decision. So the culture change is the most important. The mindset is the most important. The readiness to use this technology is the key for us. The other is, well, you have to have the technology. So connectivity is another very important challenge. Because we are talking about technology digitalization, unless you have this affordable access to everyone, not to people in town, to remote areas, to all citizens, then there is no digital transformation. So that's the second one, because it's about investment. It is about affordability. Although we have managed several technology solutions, but are they affordable? Can people use it? Especially the poor in the remote areas. And what about education? I was going to say, what about education? What role does education play in this? Education, for me, is a common denominator in this digital transformation, but also in others. That is a key, because we have to start with awareness. As I said, people at the remote area, people at the university, at other places, they have to be ready to impress this digital revolution. So at different levels, we need education. Just awareness, meaning just what you call digital literacy, so that they can easily use whatever technology are available, which can be mobile, you don't need to be sophisticated gadgets, but people have to know, at least understand, so that they have to put it into good use. At higher levels, we need programmers, developers, who can develop content for the people on health, education. So we have this continuum of educational levels that we have to address, meaning different people. So we have to have a proper curriculum that addresses all these segments. Some just awareness, sensitization, as in expertise, so that we will use this infrastructure for health, for education, and for other purposes, for government services, for e-commerce. So we need to stop those people as well, who can develop these applications, different services. So we need this education, so the spectrum is so wide. Now Ethiopia has a pavilion here. I wanted to find out, what's the value of attending events, such as ITU, Telecom World, and have you got a key message here for participants? Yeah, actually, it is our first time that we are coming to Busan with this pavilion, so we need to show that we are making some progress, at the same time, we are also on partnership, because when we say there are some progress, it doesn't mean we are complete. We show that there are some advancements, but we still need to do much more. So with this pavilion, we expect one to introduce ourselves, but at the same time, to engage, to look for partnership, because this is a global platform. So this is for us an opportunity to introduce, as well as to know other companies, these innovative solution providers. So this will be an opportunity for bridging the gap. So I think we can best use this opportunity to identify resources that we can use in our country. In fact, in some cases, we are also looking for investors on IT, specifically on IT, and we have developed already an IT park for private sector. So this can be an avenue for anyone who is interested to invest, at the same time, develop our IT ecosystem. So we are looking for partnership, we are looking for people or companies, innovators who have any interest, who can even start acquaintance and communication with us so that they will be part of our development. That is the main mission of this pavilion. Great. Well, we wish you the very best of luck and I'm sure you'll get some interest and thank you very much, Dave, for being with us in the studio today. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me as well. Thank you. Thank you.