 This is a different question is people who are Christian are asking why for Jews is Jesus not the Messiah? Rabbi Yiddaz Chakbrot always has always been admired for his honesty in communicate and you know theological truth He's one rabbi that I admire despite possessing some very vague You know Jewish ideas about the Islamic teachings and religious practices in this video He expressed in Lucid terms the understanding that underpins Authentic monotheism where reign the passing of Jesus Christ is not garden form and in practice Basically theological sense. You would find his argument here very rewarding It's a different question is people who are Christian are asking why for Jews is Jesus not the Messiah? Yeah Again excellent question the question can logically be asked in fact, I'm sure you know this The very early Christians did regard themselves as Jews Jesus himself of course regarded himself as Jews and the many of the Apostles In fact were Jews and they considered themselves Jewish in fact Peter himself Differed with Paul and Peter took the position that The follower of Jesus should practice circumcision and keep kosher and keep the Shabbat because they were Jewish So the question and of course we have Hebrew Christians this very day The question is why can't I be a religious Jew believe in the Torah and still say that Jesus is the Messiah? Exactly, that's what they wanted. I would say that Judaism has three fundamental issues with Christian theology Issue number one, which does not go to the messianic aspect of Jesus, but to the divinity and the Trinity and the Holy Father Son and the Holy Ghost However the argument against the divinity of Jesus is one that has enjoyed Robust reviews from biblical and historical scholars Over the years Paul of Somosata was a bishop of Antioch in the 3rd century He had a Christological view known as Adoptionism or Dynamic Monarchism according to his belief Jesus was a mere mortal who became divinely adopted for me This is still false. The Ebonites were a Jewish Christian sect that emerged in the early centuries of the church had a form of Adoptionism similar to Paul of Somosata the Ebonite denied the pre-existence of Jesus And considered him to be a human prophet rather than divine Somehow, correct. I agree, but take some exception. So the father he was adopted You know, Arius a presbyter from Alexandra, which is Egypt promoted idea that Jesus was a created being and not Co-internal with God the father He taught that there was a time when the Son did not exist and that he was of a different substance or nature From the father turns out to be true after thousands of years, you know, many Christian denominations, you know Hold that the idea is today As-salamu alaykum ladies and gentlemen a warm welcome to another episode of the open minded thinker show Please do like and share this video to enable us to reach more people Don't forget to subscribe to help the channel grow Why is not Jesus God? Again, excellent question. The question can logically be asked. In fact, I'm sure you know this The very early Christians Did regard themselves as Jews Jesus himself of course regarded himself as Jews and the many of the apostles of that were Jews And they considered themselves Jewish in fact Peter himself I differed with Paul and Peter took the position that A follower of Jesus should practice circumcision and keep kosher and keep the Shabbat because they were Jewish So the question and of course we have Hebrew Christians this very day The question is why can't I be a religious Jew believe in the Torah and still say that Jesus is the uh messiah Definitely, that's what they wanted. I would say that Judaism has three fundamental issues with Christian theology Issue number one, which does not go to the messianic aspect of Jesus, but to the divinity and the trinity and the Uh, holy father son and the holy ghost Our problem would be that we believe that God has never and will never assume a a human form and once you deal with the The reification or the corporalization of the deity. You are violating a tenet of God being infinite and non material This position is completely in tandem with the position of Islam There's often the problem with Christians trying to make God into a material Existence through the development of the Christological You know theology the surfed into the christian psyche There's strange teaching that Jesus who never called himself God in the bible Whilst and continues to be God in the so-called three persons of the trinity The absurdity this exude is particularly appalling and I do not think thousands of christian arguments or exegesis Would obliterate the damages this has done to pure monotheism That of course goes to the divinity and that was a later development in christianity in terms of the messianic vision Because let's say I say well, I don't believe that Jesus is god or son of god But let him be the messiah which we do believe in so I would say there are two points Point number one is That classical jewish literature does not accept the notion of a second coming and that is once the messiah Reveals himself He will accomplish a designated mission of getting the jews back to israel rebuilding the temple and Hopefully thank establishing world's peace Now jesus of course was Crucified jesus was murdered before he completed any of those things And because of that christianity developed the idea of a second coming that jesus will come back and complete the mission As they say as far as normative jewish theology is concerned When the messiah comes he's going to get the job done and he's not going to die and then come back That is point number one Point number two asks a muslim and sunni for the matter I disagree with this man on the return of the messiah I believe that the spread of islam like white fire or love of the world today Is tied to the prophecy of the establishment of a worldwide islamic caliphate in the future An event that would be heralded by first the reign of the marty And second by the return of islamic jesus peace be upon him. However, I understand His jewish points of view Where jesus was supposed to fulfill the basic requirement of the messiah Who are coded to the Torah would bring peace and emancipation For the jewish race Particularly from the grips of the romans, which is actually more important point Is and again, I I'm not going to get into the debate whether jesus said it or or the apostles or later people said it But the notion that of the new testament the notion that god has Abrogated his covenant with israel and that god has replaced The syniatic revelation With justification by faith, which is really paul's innovation paul created the idea That once gets redemption not by works, but by faith that's called justification by faith That is a theological postulate that is absolutely inconsistent with the eternity of the Torah And the divinity of the Torah Now again, I I understand one could make the argument that that's not jesus's argument In fact, there are passages where he says i'm not going to abrogate a single letter of the Torah And yet even within the christian bible There are narratives in which he implies that certain midst votes are no longer binding and certainly paul took the position That none of the midst votes Are binding and that is a postulate We cannot accept because as my monotheist writes in his articles of faith Even the messiah will not abrogate or replace the Torah The discussions regarding divergent christian believes traces back To the figure of paul who often referred to an apostle Paul formulated a unique interpretation of christianity shaped by his personal convictions And perspectives one of his notable contributions Was the concept of justification by faith Which diverged from the established traditions of ancient religions like islam Judaism and Elecristianity this teaching he placed less emphasis On good works for salvation played a significant role in sparking the protestant reformation In germany and entire europe the reformation challenge The prevailing religious practices and doctrines of the time Advocating for a return to the fundamental principles found In paul's teachings the result is a capitalist christianity where anyone with a bible And novel interpretation can establish a church and formulate doctrines without recourse to tradition And theological ethics today in the religion is in decline in the west and perhaps Other places other parts of the world prophecies have been fulfilled in real time Let's leave it right there ladies and gentlemen. 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