 Welcome back to the Wizards Forum 2023. Now I'm delighted now to be joined by Thomas Lamanoskas, who's the Deputy Secretary-General of the ITU. I hope a lot of your pronunciation right there. Yes, amazing. Thank you, Chris. So, no, it's been a few days now. So what have you been hearing from the Wizards participants? So first of all, I'm being seen a lot of enthusiasm before you're hearing that. We have different formats. We have a neuronal format with more than 40 ambassadors. We just finish the day with ministerial sessions, with the breakout groups as well, and with a very active and enthusiastic engagement. And of course, what's important feature of Wizards Forum, we see a lot of different stakeholders here, private sector, civil society, really engaging. Also, I'm hearing very clearly the people emphasizing the things we need to achieve really for the digital development to be for all. So of course it's very strong emphasis on inclusion, really connecting everyone, but make sure that everyone benefits from that connectivity. Very strong emphasis on sustainability, as well as to make sure that it's actually, we do our bit for the climate crisis and to tackle the crime crisis. And there's a lot of also emphasis on this digital development to be people-centric. They talk about human rights aspects, they talk about privacy, they talk about ethics. Some of that are, of course, something that ITU is strong about, something that our other sister agencies that involve in the process is strong. I think that is the beauty of this process because everyone comes there together with their own strength and contributes here to resolve those issues. There's a lot of work there, there's a lot of topics you mentioned. It's not going to be easy. It's not going to do it overnight. No, exactly. Well, I think we've already been doing for 20 years. I think it's a moving target as well. You know, when 20 years ago, when Wizards first started, you know, the internal connectivity, I think if I recall correctly, that was about 12%. But even then, it was already ambitious to make sure that that benefits all and we really work hard to benefit all. And now we have much better place in that way. So we, of course, have still 2.7 billion not connected, but it's still less than a third of the population. But I think the principles and the things we need to do, we kind of learn how to do them. It's just now to put in that hard work to do it. Well, we address this in the long term. So, Thomas Lemnoskas, the new Deputy Secretary General of the ITU, thank you very much for your time. Thank you very much, Chris. Really a pleasure.