 And we're live with Robert Mahari, a member of the Board of Advisors for the MIT Computational Law Report and our emissary in Davos, Switzerland now for the big annual World Economic Forum event and you've been representing Computational Law Report and MIT's Computational Law Program out there so I want to thank you and just check in and find out how are things going in Davos. Absolutely, Daza, it's been a pleasure to have the opportunity to represent the Computational Law Report here at the Imagination in Action event that took place in the TCS Dome at the World Economic Forum. It's been exciting to talk to lots of different people from all sorts of backgrounds about our take on computational law and it was really encouraging to hear that, you know, from business leaders to people in the governments of developing and developed countries to people who are in the art dealer business and the consulting business and the professional service business real estate. Everybody seems to agree, lawyers too by the way, that there's something really wrong and really old fashioned about the law and that change is needed. And I think that universally people appreciated the way that the Computational Law Report approached law from this interdisciplinary human centered, almost design thinking perspective. So it's been really exciting and I hope that we can build partnerships out here and bring things back to Boston and kind of continue building this vision. So this has been great, yeah. Sounds exciting. Seems really exciting. I know it's like in a sense like the biggest show on earth and in some ways in terms of the world leaders and the thought leaders and all the energy and the activities that happened. So as I understand it, you had a demo pod and you basically did a talk through, is that right, of what the Computational Law Report is and what computational law is and you've got some feedback from what was like people strolling by in the pavilion or can you just describe like what happened and how did it go? Sure. I had what amounted to a TV screen behind me with a couple of slides and people would stroll by. I was placed conveniently by the buffet so I could corner people and I could tell them well first and foremost what computational law even is and explain to them that, you know, law has always been code. It's been code since Babylonian King Hammurabi chiseled his code into stone 4,000 years ago. Then it was paper-based code and now we're moving to this computational world at MIT and that to try and do that takes a interdisciplinary approach and a design thinking approach and so I talked people through that and then I would talk them through how this might apply to what they do because I think one of the things that's exciting about the way the computational law works is that it's focused on application, it's focused on the real world and making positive change and so I would talk to people about there are dealers and I would talk to them about copyright and how we could think about copyright. There are people in the real estate business so I talked to them about property rights. A lot of people in the finance business who were very interested in the compliance and know your customer part. So all sorts of things from all sorts of different industries and it was fun and there were also lawyers in the room who were very excited about what we were trying to do and maybe a little bit scared but I think in a good way at least by the time we were done. Yeah, change can be scary except when you engineer it, I spoke hopefully and so I believe you went through some slides that we that we prepped back at MIT and one of them was the computational law development goals so that's something we don't even have in our site yet. We haven't shared it widely but can you give a little preview as to what some of those development goals were and how that part of the demo went? Absolutely. So second part of your question first which is that the best laid plans to men you know the rest right. So I would love I always try to kind of get to the country a lot of development goals and I think that by the time I got through the first five kinds of my presentation someone would be like well what about this and what do you mean innovate in the law that's like crazy talk. So I didn't get to talk about them as much as I wanted to but we come up with these first of all we come up with a mission. The mission is to leverage technology to be able to accelerate prosperity to create inclusive justice systems and to create predictable transparent legal systems. And so the way we thought about this mission or in thinking about this mission we came up with five computational law development goals and those are inspired by the UN's sustainable development goals but obviously kind of focused on the law. So the first one is a focus on humans human centered law and putting the human kind of in the middle of it and this means that you know everybody should be able to understand the law. This means that laws should work for people generally things like that and then some of them are more technical like thinking about law is something measurable thinking of law is data and then some of them are more about how the law operates across jurisdiction across time. So we have this idea of universal interoperability and then we also had an interdisciplinary angle to it. So thinking about these partnerships that the law needs in order to be an integrated solution and not this self discipline. So those five computational law development goals and I hope that we'll be able to share them more broadly soon really kind of help us frame how we might approach this mission. Indeed great. Sounds like you're sounds like you're having a good time and making some good progress. Can't wait to debrief with you when you get back to MIT and the United States of America but until then enjoy Davos. Don't forget to go to all the parties and and you know bring back that big fact you know stack of business cards. I'll do my best. Thank you so much for this opportunity. It's been really great.