 that I think the wording of that statement was unfortunate and it caused a lot of panic. You're already seeing in supermarkets across the country run to the shelves trying to get stock up on basic materials. And I think what prompted this statement by the idea of home front are the testimonies of people living in the border communities surrounding the Gaza Strip who had to wait to hide in their shelters from Hamas terrorists who were walking around on top of their homes in their neighborhoods in their areas. They remained there, many of them sharing afterwards that they were there without, there wasn't enough food, there weren't batteries, there wasn't water. And so I think what the IDF home front decided to do is use this opportunity to remind to all Israelis that according to their regular guidelines we should all be prepared with, all Israelis should be prepared with and stock up in their shelters. I think that was the intention and that also explains I think perhaps the clarification that they issued following that but already Israelis didn't wait for the clarification and many of them have taken to the supermarkets at this late hour of the day only simply because of that scary statement, yeah. Ariel, still before I will ask you to give us rather the update from the Barcelona Hospital, you're also updating us this hour about an initial suspicion of an event in the West Bank. Indeed we're receiving initial report again, this has to be explained that way, initial report of a potential terrorist infiltration into the township of Anav in the Northern West Bank, there has not been yet official confirmation on this, this comes as an alert in the same app of alerts for rockets and so that is an initial alert, we will wait and look for official confirmation and we will update you the moment we get one like that. All arenas, all fronts on the highest alerts in the South and the North and the West Bank all over the country. Ariel, I'll surround down south at the Barcelona Hospital, we will get back to you later on in the broadcast. Thank you very much for this and staying down south, going further down to Jonathan Regev, I-24 new senior defense correspondent in what is left from the southern city of Zerot, Jonathan, impossible to keep tabs of the scope, the scale, the intensity of events there, but I do want to begin with a simple question. Has Israel regained control, conquered back all Israeli territory down south? The answer to that question is yes, all of the communities are under Israeli control, all of Israeli territory is back within Israeli hands. Having said that, it is practically impossible to determine that there are no longer any terrorists within Israeli territory. We know that there have been 29 different holes in the border fence which were set on Saturday morning and about a thousand Hamas terrorists crossed into Israel. Were all of them gone or killed, all of them to the last one, that's simply impossible to determine and we constantly see more and more attempts to infiltrate and cross. The army says that it now has control of all of those holes in the fence and it has control of all of the communities. So therefore the answer to the question you've asked is yes. Does that mean that we can be certain that there are no more terrorists on Israeli territory? The answer to that is no. We cannot be certain of that. Jonathan, what is the current state of affairs in the city of Sderot? Not many civilians left there, but it remains a very active scene, so to speak. Active scene, constant rockets, especially to the closer communities such as Sderot and Ashkelon. Yes, there were rockets earlier in the day to the Tel Aviv area, the Jerusalem area, but most of the rockets are here to communities nearby, especially Sderot, as opposed to the communities which are right on the border fence. Those that also took the main hit and have now been evacuated, Sderot was not given the order to evacuate. There are still citizens there, but a lot of people decided to leave, understanding that they were in for a long days of battle. And also, the city is pretty much a shut, there are no stores, basically everything apart from emergency services, everything is closed, so the atmosphere obviously extremely somber. Jonathan, before we let you go, obviously the Israeli Air Force continues to strike in the Gaza Strip, we'll be discussing here in the studio shortly what is the scope of these attacks, but there seems to be some sort of change in momentum. If you will, tomorrow the Israeli security cabinet is set to convene to discuss the plans for a potential, if and when, grounded operation. Maybe so, and yes, just by hearing the sounds you understand that Israel is pounding hardly within the Gaza Strip, but it's still from the air, yes, it's a very strong offensive, but it's one from the air. If you want to topple Hamas altogether from the air, you will not be able to do it. All right. Jonathan Regev, I-24 News Senior Defense correspondent with the rest of the I-24 News team there. Stay safe. Thank you for this, and we will get back to you later on. Joining us now in studio, two of our dearest guests, Major General and the Reserve Zemis Reitendangot, former Israeli IDF coordinator of government activities in the Palestinian Territories and Senior General Sadiad El-Takhron, and Mr. Ben-Roy Amini. Thank you, gentlemen, for joining us. We've just heard Benjamin Netanyahu short while ago speaking to the nation, but not just also to the entire world, essentially. And I would like to begin with your take on what Benjamin Netanyahu had to say. First, perhaps, Ben-Roy Amini, the clear comparison he's making between Hamas and ISIS for the entire world to understand that this is not the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. This is not what we're talking about. We're talking about pogroms that are reminiscent of what happened before the Jewish people had a state. First of all, yes, he was right. He was completely right. I'll tell you why. Because in one of the videos that are distributed in social media, you could see two terrorists from the Hamas, they argue, who is going to actually cut with a knife the throat of one Israeli that was just handicapped in front of them, which is terrible. I mean, it's just, I mean, it's impossible even to see it. It's impossible to see it. It's so sad. This is the Hamas. People do not understand. And we have to understand what the Hamas is saying in the broadcast, in Al-Aqsa Chanda, the official channel. They are speaking about genocide. They are speaking about killing all the Jews. By the way, in one of the videos, you can see even that they say we have to conquer Rome and we have to conquer Andalusia. This is actually the same ideology of Daesh, of the Islamic State, just the same. So many people around in the world, in the West, they do not understand it. And what I read today, for example, a declaration of so many associations from Harvard University, supporting whom? Supporting the Hamas. It's just unbelievable. People do not understand the realities on the ground. Let's do try and get a better sense of the reality on the ground, the Major General Dangod, because Benjamin Netanyahu vowing to change the Middle East, essentially. But are we able to understand what does that mean in practice? What are the actions that are going to take place now on the ground? I think that we have to take a statement about the Middle East to the ground and make it clear that, in my opinion, it's really to secure Israeli civilians not to happen again what happened 48 hours ago and more. And this is my main thinking about his words. I'm not going so far away for all the Middle East. But what is important, and I think that was his main goal, is that we have now few missions. One is, first of all, I'm translating it operatively towards going in the ground by the Israeli security forces. First of all, to move back all the terrorists from Israel, from around Gaza. And to move back is to kill them. And to move back is to close to fence. And to move back is to give the opportunity to the people from the south to come back to their homes, to cry about what they will find and try now to build their life again. It will take a long time. Secondly, we have, and we are doing it on the same time, we have to not to punish to destroy all Hamas and Jihad Islamic capabilities of going back to continue their terror activities. And what does it mean? Destroy the organizations from, first of all, military point of view. And secondly, from the civil control on their civilians. Does that mean that there will not be one gun in the Gaza Strip? No. It means that we have to break and to destroy Hamas as terror organization, as it is now, to bring it to a very limit, in my opinion, that we will have to decide whatever. And we will do it besides the offensive operation. There is no anymore principles of humanitarian for dividing. International legitimacy. No, no, I mean, another thing in Gaza, even in my period as coordinator of government activities, always we used to divide between Gaza civilian and the organization. We cannot work heroic. We have to, as hundreds or thousands of civilians from Gaza enter to Israel and as make these crime crimes with Hamas people, they have the same responsibility. We cannot divide. First of all, closure, secondly, no more humanitarian concept. Third is to translate it. No electricity, no water, no goods, not anymore to risk for the people in Gaza. When you are opening a Kerm Shalom station and et cetera, and the fourth is to open the channel like there is no war for the hostages those were taken to Gaza. And the fifth issue is to do all of this. We are seeing what happening in the north for the second and the major arena. It's a difficult task. And we are only at the beginning. It will take time. Those who expect that it will be finished in a few days have a great mistake. It's something that will take weeks if we have to share and to move to the north and to return back to Gaza, but the main goal that we have started now is to stay towards us. Yes, just one thing about the international law, because people speak about it, what we are allowed to do, what we are not allowed to do. Just to remind people that do not know the Geneva Convention saying Article 28, I want to read, it's very short. The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points of areas immune from military retaliation. The meaning is very simple. If the Hamas is hiding in any civilian house, neighborhood, building, Israel, according to the international law, is allowed to bombard. It should be remembered, because so many people do not understand the international law concerning this kind of retaliation. And as a caveat, I will say, you know what, tomorrow's problems, right, perhaps action on the ground. I would like to emphasize one thing we were just here, heard two hours ago, the statement of Hamas spokesman about the fact that if Israel continues with their strike, they will start to kill our hostages there. I thought about it, and this is my own private opinion. First of all, we will have to demand from the Red Cross United Nation to bring their duty towards the hostages as it's written in the international law. Secondly, we have to test or to think about those that we find out in these attacks from Hamas, whether we have to judge them according to a death law. And to make it under any kind of Hamas activities, there is no anymore to be different. We are different. We will still be different, but we will have to change the habits towards Hamas. Gentlemen, we will continue to unpack what is currently unfolding and what will be happening in a second. But the hours, the days are passing, and still so many have no sign of life, no clue. Not anything about their most dearest beloved, father's, mother's, grandparents' sons and daughters. And we want to turn now to Hani Ricardo, mother of Missing Oriya, joining us now. Hani, thank you so very much for speaking to us. The mind cannot comprehend what you are going through. So I will start by asking, how are you? Well, I managed to be quite okay until I saw the TV right now. I tried to avoid all of those images, and that was pretty harsh. Yes. It is gut-turning. You cannot get immune to this. When was the last time you've heard from Oriya? When was the last time you got any information very well about it? She sent me. I knew about the attack. I mean, the missiles were sent on Friday. I was in New York. And I texted with a friend, and he told me that some missiles were sent, all shot over to Israel. And I immediately sent her a message asking her if everything is fine, but I didn't know that she went to the party in the south. I had no clue. And then family woke me up in the middle of the night in New York telling me that Oriya is missing. And then when I found that she sent me a message of a quarter to nine telling me, Mom, I love you so much. And that actually was the last time we heard from her. So she's still missing. We don't know if she's still hiding or she is across the border. We don't know. The IDF spokesperson did say that the list of those being held captive is being finalized. Have you heard anything from authorities until this point in time? Nobody got in touch with me. So I have no idea what's going on. I still hope that this courageous woman will just go out from her hiding place and I can hug her tomorrow. But it's hard. It's really hard. And listening to all these politicians makes me sick, because that's all they need to know and all they want to know and everything they need to do, they don't. They just talk. They just talk and the international community worth nothing because it doesn't matter what is happening. Israel is always to be blamed, always. And I said it before and I will say again, we don't need to think any longer about what the community around the world think because they will think anyhow bad about Israel. Israel is always the one to be blamed. And now the Hamas is saying, we'll do this if now there's no place for Hamas. There is no place for Hamas in this world. It need to be destroyed. And they are not these monsters. They have no right to be called human because what they did, they massacred 900 young people who went to party. And bravery is to go and fight against kids, women, nobody, nobody, it's unbelievable. It's really unbelievable. But I just, politicians need to go home, each and every one of them. Well, honey, obviously we share our deepest hope that you, that we will all hear soon about the status, the whereabouts, the well-being, hopefully of Orya. And hopefully this moment is fast approaching. But before we again send you a big, big hug from here, would you like to send any message to those who are watching? I'm sending all my love to those that already heard that their dearest ones are gone. And I hope the full recovery for all those who got wounded and all those across the border, I want them to come back home safely. And forgive me, everybody, I hope for my daughter more than everything, more than anyone else. We're seeing pictures of your daughter, Orya, during our conversation, and we hope that her beautiful, graceful smile will illuminate the room you're currently at sooner rather than later. Honey Ricardo, thank you so very much for speaking to us. We genuinely send you a big, big hug from here. We're all in it together. Thank you. All right. We will shift the tune back to what is currently happening on the ground, and we want to go up north because the northern front is awakening today. Hamda Selhut, 24 News Correspondent. Is there Hamda? Several incidents. I'm not sure if the term incident is accurate enough to describe what seems to be, again, an awakening scene up north. Ellie, actually, as we're speaking, Israeli planes flying overhead now. Several incidents taking place along the Lebanese border, but just moments ago, Israeli officials confirming that Lebanon's Hezbollah has hit a few Israeli positions and that the Israeli military is striking targets at this time earlier. There was an infiltration of about four people inside of Israeli territory, injuring at least six soldiers. Some of them critically being treated in this hospital actually right behind me. The people who infiltrated the border are actually members of Palestinian Islamic jihad. The Palestinian factions who operate out of southern Lebanon are saying that they're ready to fight, ready to create a new front of the war on the northern border, but they can't do it without Hezbollah. They're hoping that they will lead the fight toward this. Because of the deaths on the Hezbollah side in the Israeli strikes today, confirming Hezbollah, confirming at least six deaths, the Hezbollah military has retaliated against Israel. This could be only the beginning of it. Analysts are saying that Hezbollah might join at any moment. Earlier today, the armed group said that they would only join the conflicts if provoked or quote harassed by the Israelis. And the death of some of their members was surely the first provocation, what will be a series of many in the days to come. Yeah, the question, what qualifies as an harassment or provocation, it means to be seen. And before we let you go, perhaps, another indication of what's going through the other side mine schools in southern Lebanon will remain shut tomorrow. That's right, schools within the border area in Lebanon will be shut. The government and the army advising people who live near the border to leave, evacuate, to get near a safer place inward inside of the country, Lebanese people are terrified of this war going on to their territory because they are already struggling on so many fronts. So an active conflict with the Israelis would simply devastate the country that has seen economic hardship that the World Bank has described the worst in decades. Hi, 24 news correspondent, Hamda Salhout. Thank you so very much for this. Stay safe up there. Thank you. All right, back here in the studio with Mr. Ben Roy Mini, Major General Aitindangot. Major General Aitindangot, obviously, any operation down south is taking into consideration the northern front. We can't really make a distinction or separation between the two. But I would like to ask you, I'm trying to ask the questions that our viewers are asking, right? What is the greater risk vis-à-vis the northern front, that they will join or that they will not be deterred? I think it's the same. If they... I believe that we are already in a process to enter a corridor while we are moving towards escalation in the north. It looks like because we have a previous science from Kisbala recently, even before it has started, what happened in Gaza. And the two events that happened yesterday was small one. I said, listen, it's the first step to Kisbala to make their leg inside to say we are here, and we will suppose to support Hamas. Secondly, what happened tonight? It's under, in my opinion, a pre-intelligence that the IDF succeed to identify and to assess. And that readiness towards a cabin of terror, listen, they used the second cabin of proxy. It means Kisbala, Hamas, and Jihad Islamic. There is a full cooperation. But yet, Jihad Islamic claiming responsibility for what happened today up north. It's not as if Kisbala is not authorizing it. Kisbala, which is the head of the snake, it's Iran. But what does it mean? It means much more force of ballistic or rockets and the motor shells. They have, secondly, they have a professional. You can call it even a unit special for crossing the border. We will win. We are ready in Lebanon, and there is another story. Lebanon is still considered as a state. And Lebanon will take on account what's happening in Gaza. It's only a prey for something that a promo or something that will happen in Lebanon. I hope it will determine Kisbala, which the American steps in the area, which is a sign towards Iran, first of all, secondly towards Kisbala. Be careful because we are in the region. It will be much more complicated for Israel, but we are built to do it. Even what happened in Saturday, we are on a country that there is one choice and it calls to win. And we will be there, but it will cause us a lot of other kind of damages. On the other end, the last point to emphasize, Iran has to calculate very deep if they are signing a green line to Kisbala to open, because it will be the last chance for Iran to have such a strong proxy all over the Middle East as a terror unit. And it means for Iran, future will be much more complicated for them in the military side. And, of course, the American support, not just in words, but in action, is not just support to Israel, just an understanding of the greater geopolitical... It's a sign of support for the all-moderate Arab countries. Exactly. And we'll get to that in a second. But, Bendo, I mean, I do want to circle back to some of Benjamin Netanyahu's remarks this evening. And as I stressed earlier in our broadcast here, it has nothing to do with politics, even though it sounds political, it has nothing to do with politics. The issue of the unity government, unity emergency government that has yet to be formed, Benjamin Netanyahu saying, I invite opposition leaders to join me, and yet, Bendo, the momentum on the ground is changing. It feels as if, but the government like this is still in the making, but still not a done deal. How come? Yeah. Let me tell you something. Every minute that we don't have unity government is quite a bad minute for Israel, because we need this kind of unity. And we don't have it. And we cannot ignore what we have been passed through the last more than nine months. We are in a crisis, and, but, but, but something that must be emphasized. I mean, when it's not the Hamas who initiated this kind of attack, it's clear cut that it was initiated by the head of the snake, which is Iran. And why? Why Iran actually initiated it? Because the strategic change, which is going to be carried out, which means the defense agreement between the United States and Saudi Arabia. This is something which is actually changing the whole Middle East. And you change, of course, with the normalization with Israel. So so they did not want it to happen. And the main hope of Iran is that they will be able to convince other partisans the Israeli Arabs, the West Bank, and we see this something is happening in the West Bank to be against Israel. Right now it's not happening right now. If you see the social media of many Arabs, I'm speaking about actually publishing posts against Hamas and even asking Israel to destroy Hamas, which is something which is we did not see it before. So from one hand, as I mentioned, in Harvard, so many associations. And in London, and in New York. But from the Arab world, we understand already. And we have to bear in mind, wherever we have jihad, soon jihad, we have destruction. Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, when they interfere, the meaning is destruction and death. So I do hope, I do hope that Iran will understand. No, it's not working what you're doing. And it's not by occasion that Anthony Blinken, the Secretary of State, when he spoke about it, it was yesterday or the day before. Yeah, he mentioned the Saudi Arabia defense agreement. I mean, we are going on. So if you wanted, it's clear cut to the Americans that this is the main cause for initiating this. If we're talking about what can qualify as an ultimate victory, so to speak, and goal to know once this unfolding situation is over, that might very well be that Major General Dan Gott. Let's go down south again to the Gaza Strip. Is there an end game to the campaign vis-a-vis the Strip at the moment? What do you mean? That tomorrow morning, the operations on the ground are dictated according to a certain goal that is understood that has been made. What will happen in a few days in the Strip? I think that it has a very clear goal, what to come for the result. And I'm not sure there is a plan of items that you can build the day after we'll take Gaza, et cetera. And this is one of the main, I think, challenge to Arab countries, like Egypt, like modern Gulf countries, maybe even Qatar, even I'm not trust them, to be involved and to ensure a different Gaza from the future. And also for the Israeli government, if it comes, it's something to look like far away from us now for each government that will be here, because I'm not sure which kind or which type of government we will see in Israel in one month. So about it, I think that will be a change on the policy to understand whether the alternative is the Palestinian authorities to try to bring them back to Gaza, whether to bring such kind of Arab entity that will be managing Gaza from the point only of civil life. But one thing it's clear on the goal that you mentioned, destroy the structure. And beside the infrastructure of Hamas of Jihad Islamic, that they will not be able to be claimed as a terror or a movement that have tools like today. Any governmental or militarily entity that's for certain. And I can mention the major countries. Egypt, Qatar, maybe even Turkey in some way, even we draw from his contact to Hamas. I think that Aradwan is understanding the region and the new major player that always is a major player, Saudi Arabia. Yeah, Saudi Arabia, definitely. But this is something that we have, first of all, to take care of ourselves, from our future, for our children's future. Because if you ask me now, what will be in about two months the situation in the Kibbutzim around Gaza? Really? Kfaraza, Be'eri, Netiva Sara. I don't know whether those that are symbols for the establishment of Israel, symbols from unity of Israel, whether there will be maybe on the ground, maybe something new. I don't know. It's not time to think outside of the box. It's time to bring a new box. To bring a new box, first of all, you have to throw away what destroy you. What it is now? I want to tell something which is not popular, but it should be said. We know exactly what happened. For example, in Chechnya, the superpower, Russia, could not really defeat the people in Chechnya, the rebels. What happened in Afghanistan in the 80s when Russia could not defeat the Mujahideen? We have to remember that the United States could not defeat the Taliban. It's a new kind of battle. It's not going to be easy, maybe, just maybe. We have to rethink about what we should do. Will a ground attack is the best thing? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm just thinking. I just want to put this kind of question out in order to understand that it's not going to be easy. And if somebody thinks that, oh, Israel is going to destroy the Hamas in a few days or even few weeks, I'm not sure about that. And what Israel is doing right now to cut all the supply, because there was not any blocking. Let's admit there was not a real blockade. Israel supplied the oil. Israel supplied the water. Israel supplied the food. And the concrete. And 20,000 workers. Exactly. So that was the fling. Actually, there was not any blockade. There was not a real blockade. I mean, they couldn't survive. And what did they do with the $1 billion and $500 million? What did they do with the money? They built an infrastructure of death, not prosperity, not education, not welfare, not health. We have to bear it in mind. This is Daesh. This is the Islamic State. And because of the failures that you've mentioned in the opening of your remarks, I wouldn't want to use the term framing of what is happening. But the understanding of what is happening, that it is a battle between light and darkness, is so pivotal, so important. And in this respect, we want to turn now to another front line, where the battle is very much the same. But the rules of the battle are somewhat different. The truth in this battlefield means little, if anything at all. But the results of this battle could not be any more real. Senior Fellow of the Tel Aviv Institute, Hen Mezeg, joining us now. Hen, thank you for joining us. I hope you could hear the conversation here in studio. Because what's going on online at the moment is a crucial part of this, of this understanding of what is happening here in Israel. Yeah, I don't think we've ever seen such reaction. I mean, we've never been in an age where everything is livestreamed all the time, for better or worse. So I think this war is a totally new beast. And for us at the Tel Aviv Institute where I work and we're focusing on social media, we've been preparing for something like this, but not just something really like this. It's really the size and the amount of reactions that we are seeing online is something we haven't seen before. And speaking of something that we've never seen before, we're seeing those sickening, gut-turning documentations from Hamas's side. And there is, or at least there was, a dilemma here, whether to distribute it for the entire world to see. So no one will be able to say. And that takes us back to, again, to previous time, to the Holocaust. No need to whitewash it. We didn't know. Right. And I think that's the dilemma that we'll always have. I've received several requests from families of victims that I've posted the pictures of, or people that have been kidnapped asking me to remove the posts because they've reached millions of people out of fear that their family might be harmed, that the kidnapped families would be used even more brutally by Hamas because of the attention. So of course, I took down immediately every request that I've received from families. But I do know that there is an effect. The reason that 20 million people watched one of my videos is because there was a face. And people want to see that. I mean, they don't want to see it, but that's what they are connected to most. And that's why I always have this dilemma. But I do think that we need to post as much as we can, even if we have to blur the faces or blur some of the core violence that we're seeing. It's important that people get this visual, because if they see it, they understand. And they understand that what we understood for so long, Hamas is not fighting war in the same terms that human people are understanding and people in the West understand. They have a totally different set of rules and it has nothing to do with moral or humanity. For them, the goal is one and it's clear and they seem nothing on the way to achieving their goal. I'll be it unprecedented. I'll be it. The intensity here is 100% different. This is not our first rodeo when it comes to fighting over a public opinion all over the world. Israel is already responding in the Gaza Strip and will likely respond with severe force over the next few days. Will that change the public's perception and or how do you make sure that the understanding among people online and all around the world will remain the same? What led to what? Yeah, I mean, we've already seen some reactions from people protesting for Palestine or protesting in support of the quote unquote resistance. And I think that normal people on the side, normal people, people on the sideline watching it get a very clear understanding of what these people are supporting. So even though we saw some protests, I think that every day a person will look at it and understand that supporting this sort of behavior is not something that they want to get behind. I think that we will see things getting more difficult. Right now we have international support from Zalanski to Joe Biden, to the international media celebrities by and large are standing with Israel because of the core images that they've seen. But I'm afraid that in the next few days we will have to explain to the world why we have to fight and remind them. People have very short memory span when it gets to Israel as we know. So we'll have to remind them, but at least we have the evidence and we have this information out on nine and we can always refer back to it. And very briefly, Han, before we thank you, many of our viewers feel helpless and they want to help. How can they? Well, you can follow my accounts on social media and engage in the conversation. Feel free to share any content out there. There's no rules. You don't have to ask for permission from any pro-Israel account out there. But be vocal, you can make a massive difference even if it's one person that follows you, changes their mind and see some of the content that we are putting out there. It can make it huge difference in reminding the people that never again is now. Never again is now. Han Maseg, senior fellow at the Tel Aviv Institute, thank you very much for this and for your work. Thank you. Back in studio with Mr. Bendole, meaning the major general at Tendangot. It is important to stress that while there is a sense and I will ask you, Major General Dengota, to reassure perhaps this sentiment that the momentum is changing, that the shock of the beginning has gone and there is action. And yet, tough days are to come and this is not lip service. Exactly. And I always during my career, the IDF says, we have to wait till the end. I know what is the goal. I know where it will be ended, but we have to be slowly not to make statements that create kind of the tomorrow it's happened and it will be quick. No, it will take time. It will be with moments that we will be up down, but at the end we will be up and sure. You know I am sure. I see the unity of the country. This country, their main, what you call the gold percentage is the people here. You'll see with all what happened here, 150% of people came for the reserve units. Where are the pilots who remember this issue? Where are in the ground units? All over Saturday, immediately you see all the vehicles going full with the fighters. No one had to call them in. They came. Our problems is our leaders. I'm not meaning for especially leaders. Yeah, generally. It's not the time, but the problems is how you take such people in this country that their parents came from all over the world. Their parents built this country and now it was taken by a leadership over years that make it down and now it is unfortunately a red line to stop and to climb up and because of the people here we will win and we will do what we have to create the future of our soldiers, of our children in this country. This is my assessment, not assessment. This is my principle. This is why I joined the IDF. This is why I'm here sitting with you in this time and say I don't have any choice. And every time you speak, Major General Dangot, I want to scream. I enjoy your presence in studio very much so, but if you could be sitting in Jerusalem, things could have looked very different. And so are you, Mr. Bengoliumini and in the same spirit, the heroism, the strength, the resilience, again, not merely as terms, but genuinely on the ground we're seeing coming out of these really people, the Israeli nation? Yeah, we have to remember one thing. I of course agree with whatever Dangot said, but I have to add, it always was like that, that at the beginning the public opinion, international public opinion is understanding Israel because of the Hamas rockets, as it was in the rounds before. Now it's not the same, now it's not the same, but, we have to be very cautious because in a few days or even now pictures from Gaza will be published and they are already published. And yes, Israel is retaliating and yes, Israel is destroying the infrastructure of the Hamas, but Israel is actually destroying many buildings that, yes, are used by the Hamas, partly or completely, I don't know. But the new videos, the new pictures will serve the Hamas. And when, unfortunately and unintentionally, children and women and elderly people will be killed, it will be against Israel. And I just read today, today, the announcements, official announcement of HRW, Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty, and it was just unbelievable. Mm, both sides, we have to save the lives of... Innocents and aliens, yeah. Kaman, after such atrocities on behalf of Hamas, you are publishing something which is against both sides. Where are you? Do we live in the same world? I mean, what are you? You are part of the evil of what? But they do it, unbelievably. Like if they are actually, let's put it in the right way, the propaganda department of the Hamas. That's what it does, just like the people from Harvard that they spoke about. That's what the human rights organizations are publishing instead of to condemn the Hamas, instead of to speak about the right of Israel to retaliate, they speak about innocent civilians from both sides. Unbelievable, just unbelievable. Well, gentlemen. Are you surprised? No, because I'm... And the question of whether anything can change that. I have to remind people who don't come. Well, Jews hiding in closets like Anne Frank once again, if that will not change it, I don't know what will. The study will come from Arab, modern countries, from Arab people. This is where the future lies. Gentlemen, we want to cross... Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dany Danon is waiting, yeah? It can be surprising because I published the book, Industry of Life, so I know what I'm talking about. Dany Danon, Mr. Dany Danon, former Israeli ambassador to the UN, Senior Ali Kud Party member. Thank you very much for speaking to us, sir. I hope you could hear our conversation here in studio because this is your field of expertise, has been for so many years, international arena. Can Israel win those institutions, the human rights organization? We're seeing anti-Israel protests around the world. As we speak, how can Israel fight the international, in the international arena at this point in time? Ground, and then the moral ground. With all due respect to the UN and all the institutions you mentioned earlier, I don't care about them right now. I care about the security of the Israelis. I care about the program we have experienced. 1,000 casualties in one day. I don't recall such atrocities in our history since the Holocaust. When you see barbarians actually pulling Jews from their homes and committing such horrible crimes. So with all due respect, today we should not care about any of those organizations. We have to put our efforts in winning the war against Hamas. I hope that the government will make it very clear that it's not something that we go halfway or we'll have a ceasefire in a few weeks. We have to declare a very clear message that we need to eradicate Hamas period. And we are willing to do it and we are capable of doing it. And then we'll deal with the international law. We will deal with the UN condemnations. But I prefer to be condemned and to be on the mercy of the international community. I prefer to be the strong one who people are actually condemning what they will be out today. That people support us. They send the condolences and we are in the victim side. Yeah, wordsmen. I mean, little if any at all in these situations. Mr. Danon, before I ask you on what is currently happening on the ground or what are we to expect in the coming days. Another matter that does involve the international community, the situation of the so many hostage, the so many Israeli civilians, where as we speak, being held captive, kidnapped, Indigaza strip, elderly children, women, soldiers as well, all of them are held by Hamas. Is there, what international contacts can you update us on that are currently underway? What international diplomatic routes are currently being used? Well, first we can all agree that it is a war crime to kidnap innocent kids, the elderly, crippled people, and they take them into Gaza. We have seen horrible footage coming from Gaza. That thing, it's complicated for us. I think we have to walk in one hand. We should fight Hamas, no mercy, without any considerations. But at the same time, we have to apply pressure on Gaza. And when the humanitarian organization will start to cry out and to call for an important session of security council at the UN, then we will raise our humanitarian demands about our people. So I think we should not expect the international community to do the work for us. You have players in the region, Egypt, Qatar and others that always offer their services to mediate. But I don't think we are at this stage of negotiating. I think only after we will apply major pressure on Gaza, on the people of Gaza, then we will maybe be able to speak about some kind of negotiations. So that brings me to ask Mr. Danon, what does it mean exactly on the ground? What kind of actions are we to see in the Gaza Strip? What is the end game here? Well, it depends who you ask. If you ask me the end game, is it Hamas or...? And at this crucial point in time, we've lost a connection. I hope we can restore connection with you. Mr. Danon, can we hear Ambassador Danon? No, we cannot. I think that should be the goal. Excuse me. Oh, we can hear you once again. We've lost the connection with you, Mr. Danon. So if we can circle back to the beginning, what are we to expect now on the ground? What does it mean to eradicate Hamas in the Gaza Strip? To eradicate Hamas, it's very simple. You have to surrender. I want to remind you the picture of Arafat and the PLO when they boarded the boat in Beirut on the way to Cyprus and then Tunisia. That's surrender. That's my goal. I think that's what we should achieve. Today, the cabinet decision and the government decision is still very vague about hurting Hamas. But anyway, we are intending to use the force from the sea, from the air, from the land, and I make them pay a heavy price. To my position, it's not enough to pay a price. We need to go all the way. I know it's called a discussion. And we decided to postpone this discussion and look what we should not do the same mistake again. Yes, we're once again having some trouble hearing you properly. Mr. Danonso, I will ask now on the status or the contacts that you can update us on. A unity emergency, unity government, what can you tell us on these prospects? I think we can agree that it's something that we all support. We need a unity government. While in a time of crisis, we should put all of our differences aside, no left and right, no position, coalition, we have to walk together to defeat Hamas. And I think that the right thing for Israel and I hope that we will see this government coming together ASAP. Mr. Danon, former Israeli ambassador to the UN and a senior liquid party member, thank you very much for this. Ladies and gentlemen here with us in Syria. Thank you, Mr. Danon. Bento Yamini, Major General Dangot, in the brief time we have left, your concluding remarks to what is the end of day three of the war here in Israel? Actually Israel is in front of two battles. One battle is on the ground, yes. We are retaliating, we are bombarding, we have to do it in order to explain the Hamas, that no, this game cannot go anymore, this kind of massacres, this kind of years of launching rockets on civilian populations, enough is enough and we have to make it. From the other hand, we have the battle in the international arena, which mean the international public opinion because it might be changed and we saw some signs of people who are always against Israel and now they will go on. Yes, we have to fight it and we have to know and we have to explain that Hamas is Daesh, Islamic State and we have all the rights to retaliate. Major General Dangot, 10 seconds please. Destroying Hamas and Jihad Islamic capacities, readiness and probably fighting with Hezbollah according to what will be developed and unity of the country. On that note, thank you gentlemen very much for joining us on this broadcast. We'll be back in a moment. Yes, welcome back. So we've talked throughout this broadcast about the rave, the music festival, the massacre, no other way to put it, of so many youngsters attacked by Hamas, vile terrorists at which some 260 people, youngsters, ravers, were killed, dozens kidnapped into Gaza as we speak to whereabouts still unknown. To give you some idea of what happened there, we've prepared this clip, some footage shot there while it was happening and we want to warn you of these images, some of them very graphic, all of them naturally very disturbing. Yes, here's more. How many times you're watching these videos, those images are incomprehensible. Yeah, that this is a documentation of what happened underground and we want to turn now to Emily Schrader, correspondent of White and News and the social media activists that are joining us here in studio and to Samerson Jilawi, chairman of the Jerusalem Development Fund and a member of Fatah, thank you very much, both of you for joining us here today, the end of yet another long day and summer, I would like to begin with you by giving you the opportunity, if you wish of course to start with what might be elementary, might not to condemn the brutality, the whore, the slaughter, the pogrom that we've seen by Palestinian terrorists and against Israeli civilians. Well, any human being should be shocked and sad to see innocent people killed and this is terrible, nobody can accept this, but I don't see that there will be any justification that the reply to what's happening is a mirror again in Gaza because again what's happening in Gaza now on the other side of the borders is also sad and terrible, seeing also kids burned under a bombarding is a human suffer, a human loss is very sad, whatever it happens and whoever pushes the trigger and I think I have listened today, for example, from the minister Galant calling everybody in Gaza animals. I just want to draw the attention of the Israeli audience that maybe for most of those 2.2 billion people for years under siege, they might have seen also all the people on the other side as animals, it's a terrible, sad situation where victims lose their lives and I think these moments, they need courage. I was not able to understand, for example, for weeks when there was the Saudi-American talks about the possibility of a breakthrough, of a huge peace, nobody from the opposition in Israel thought of joining the government, but now for war. No, but Samuelson-Jalawi, the triggers for any political move or reservation from this or that geopolitical change, does anything justify the slaughter of the elderly in their beds, handcuffing children? Nothing at all, nothing, it is denied, but we need to identify what is a human loss? When should we be sad when there is a human loss? Only when it is at one side of the borders or should we be human enough to shed the same tears? When a human being loses his lives at both sides of the borders. You know, I have been watching all the Israeli channels in the last days and I can see how much the Israeli society is in shock. I can see that maybe to a certain extent the Israeli security system has been humiliated. I can understand this, I can understand the field, I can understand the anger, but nobody from the Israeli channels now is trying to also show the public some pictures and videos of what's happening now in Gaza. What's happening now in Gaza is also terrible. Listen, Samar, I agree with you from the beginning about condemning it, but I, as an Israeli, feel sorrow when I see Palestinians suffering. I have no desire for Palestinians to be hurt. And at the same time, I don't think that that is reciprocal. That is not what we've seen in the response, even to this attack, not all Palestinians, of course. There are many innocent Palestinians and many of them who just wanna live in peace, but there are also hundreds, if not thousands, who were celebrating this massacre. And that's undeniable, and you don't see that on the Israeli side. I'm sorry, but you don't. Does that mean everything Israel does is correct? Of course not, but it's not the same thing. 300 kids lost their lives too in Gaza now. And that is a terrible tragedy, but you don't see Israelis celebrating in the streets because there are Palestinian children who have been killed. Can you condemn this, please? Can you condemn the loss of the lives of 300 kids in Gaza now? Condemn the loss of lives? Of course, I think it's a terribly sad thing. Does that mean Israel should stop attacking Hamas sites? Absolutely not. Well, what will happen then? I wanna ask you actually, Samar, I wanna know from you, what do you think the solution is? What do you think Israel should do in response to the rise and the strength of Hamas at this point, killing civilians, which you condemned, but you don't support Israel striking Hamas sites. So what do you support? What should Israel be doing? Well, I don't accept that I condemn and I consider it's terror killing kids in Gaza. Kids, there are kids, 300 kids, among 600 people, 50% of the people in Gaza. Yes, but the IDF isn't targeting children. They're targeting Hamas military sites. Hamas military, Emily, are under the ground and the military is reeling. Then that is the responsibility of Hamas. They know. That alone is a war crime. Putting things next to mosques inside of mosques, under mosques, in schools, under schools. These are war crimes and Hamas bears full responsibility for it. I'm sorry, it's a tragedy. I'm sorry that the Palestinians suffer as a result of it. But the responsibility for it lies with Hamas. Emily, me and you should consider that the real criminal is the international community that brought us to this strategy of being killing each other as a man to justify the survival of ourselves. Israel is not interested in killing people for the sake of killing. Israel is interested in pursuing and shutting down and deterring terrorism. Israel is interested in self-defense. We have no interest other than that. You have tried one time peace with the Palestinians also. And you keep saying it failed and we should forget about it. That's not true, there have been at least five offers on the table, including more than the Palestinians demanded. And you continue doing war in Gaza. Now this is the war number 16. We didn't continue doing war. We didn't continue doing war. These military operations are more in Gaza. Israel hasn't done anything. Israel Hamas is the aggressor in this situation. They themselves have admitted it with the backing of the Islamic Republic of Iran. But Summer, you still haven't answered my question. I really want to know, you're prepared to condemn terrorism against Israeli civilians. So what is your solution? What do you think the state of Israel and the IDF should be doing to stop Hamas terrorism? You need to compromise. You need to do political steps. You need to acknowledge the rights of Palestinian people to the right of self-determination. We never had a problem with that. We never had a problem with self-determination of Palestinians. It would never have a problem with our self-determination. Lasting peace should be a just peace. We should learn this lesson. It will never end. This cycle of violence. I agree with you. I don't have a problem personally with the existence of a Palestinian state. I do have a problem with a Palestinian state that refuses to exist in peace with a Jewish, Israeli, Jewish, and democratic state of Israel. That is not the case for the majority of Palestinians. Time and time again, Palestinian leadership have rejected offers even to have their own state, something that Mahmoud Abbas has admitted was a mistake back in 1948. And yet they continue to do the same thing over and over and over again. And you can't say that this terrorist attack was a result of occupation or a result of oppression because they weren't targeting military. This wasn't a strategic military operation. This was a campaign, a genocidal campaign against civilians. We are inside this. Stop propaganda, please. Stop, Hasbara. It's the truth. I'm sorry that you can't hear it. But this is the truth. Never, you are doing annexation now. Look at the government. No, we're not. Look at Smodritch. He is doing the fact of annexation in the West Bank. He is expanding settlements. All what we are getting from Israel is expanding settlements. It's getting terrorists into the government like Ben Vier and Smodritch. I don't agree with Ben Vier or Smodritch, nor do I agree with annexation. But at the same time, one would think that after 70 years of failures on the part of the Palestinian leadership, that perhaps they should try a new tactic other than rejecting every single offer that comes onto the table. That's not what we are seeing. We continue to see rejectionism of the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish and democratic state side by side next to Palestinians. That is the core of the problem. You are wrong and you are doing again, Hasbara. And I am telling you, I am a Palestinian. I am Fatih. I am mainstream. I have been five years in Israeli jails. And I tell you, Israel has- So being mainstream is spending five years in Israeli jails? What I was, I was five years in Israeli jails. At the age of 15, I was the first intifada. And I tell you, I recognize the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state. I don't mind if you want to call it a Jewish state or a Buddhist state or whatever. And I recognize that Jews have historical rights in the land of Palestine. But I was always here. You have never been alone. There was always others. And others are- That's factually untrue. That's factually untrue. I'm sorry, the Jewish people were here thousands of years before the majority of Arabs came to Israel. Have you ever been alone here? Have you ever been alone here? Yes, the Kingdom of Israel, historically speaking. There was always others. The others are us. And this land is rich in its Jewish Christian culture. Let's try to fast forward to this point in time, Summer and Emily. Summer, actually, I've been waiting to speak to you since this morning because you've been here in Syria so many times. And there was one question that kept on popping in my head. What is Mahmoud Abbas thinking now? He's seeing that. What is the religious leaders are thinking when they're seeing this documentation of this, again, the atrocities that happened, this slaughter, this genocide? Well, I am 100% sure that this operation is an attempt from Iran to steal the conflict, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, control it and push it to the direction they want. If you have seen the- Because you have to admit, Summer, these are ISIS actions. This is not something we've seen here before, this level of cruelty. So if there are 50,000 militants in Gaza who belong to Iran, paid and operated by Iran, this does not mean that we should consider the whole Gaza as being playing the same role these people are playing. But where is the Juan Belzin leader who will tell them, listen, my people, don't celebrate that? Well, we have a lack of leadership and we are paying for this. And you have seen that whenever Abbas opens his mouth, he brings catastrophe to the Palestinian people, keeping not recognizing the Holocaust and keeping saying his bullshit statements on international TV. We are suffering from lack of leadership, maybe on both sides. But tell me, why we don't have elections? Because again, there is one person that is supporting Abbas and wants him to stay in power. It's Netanyahu. It's not the Israeli system. It's not the Israeli military. Not the Israeli security system. It's Netanyahu. Netanyahu has played the strategy of Bidul, separating Gaza from the West Bank. And look at the results. He has now the revolutionary guards in Gaza, penetrating his borders and killing Israelis inside in the middle of Israel. This is the policy of Netanyahu. And Netanyahu should take responsibility and resign if he has enough courage. He is the one to be blamed in everything that is happening now. This is his strategy. And this is the results. And we are continuing doing again, wars and wars and killing more victims on both sides. We should end all of this. And this should start now. You have a unity government, an emergency government. You will have it soon. The Palestinians should elect new leadership. And this leadership will be capable to sort things in a better way with the Israelis. This is the only way out. I agree with it all. And yet I do wanna ask you, Summer, do you really think that Israel can just do nothing now? Again, today, not generally. Now, at this point in time. Well, whatever Israel will do, the memories that will be left from these days is only the memories of people penetrating what is supposed to be the most sophisticated and solid fence. These memories will be left, whatever Israel will do on Gaza, it will not help, it will not bring to a solution. I would have been more careful into targeting civilians in Gaza to show that there are some moralities. But now we are doing reflections of the images on both sides, repeating the images here in Gaza. And this is terrible. Emily. I don't know how you can say that Israel should be more careful when we are already exercising precision airstrikes, when we already provide advanced warning. And in addition to that, we know that Hamas is using civilians as a human shield. This is a tactic that they have long used. And I think you can agree with me that it's something that the Islamic Republic of Iran teaches all of their terrorist proxies to do. At the same time, like Eddie was alluding to, we can't do nothing. And I think it's really important to emphasize the fact that a lot of people are speaking now about avenging what happened or revenge on Gaza. That's not the purpose of any military operation done by the IDF. The purpose is in order to deter and to prevent the terrorist organization and the enemies to be able to carry out such attacks. That is what the goal is. And that is why people have asked me before, well, why would Israel alert people in a building that they're gonna bomb it? Let's say they want to target terrorists. They don't always even want to target terrorists. There are times when they have military strikes that are hitting facilities where things are being held, where operations are being conducted. So it's not always about the people. Israel does everything that it can, technologically, with the capabilities that we have to protect civilian lives. So again, I am sorry. I feel sorrow for the people of Gaza. We need to be honest. This campaign we are facing might exceed the borders of those usual practices that we were familiar with. Tough days ahead of us. No other way to put it. Emily Schrader, Somerson, July, wasn't an easy conversation, but I am, for one, I'm glad we had it. Thank you very much for your time. Hopefully we will be talking again in better days. Thank you very much for this. Before we recap, before we conclude, rather wrap up the show, we want to recap the current state of affairs that we're crossing now down south, I-24 News Senior Defense Correspondent Jonathan Regiv, still standing by there, Jonathan. The third day of the war coming to an end, nightfall, means that some operations that are taking place during daytime can no longer happen. And on the other side, the darkness provides other capabilities or abilities to operate. What are we to see in the coming hours? I think more and more bombardment so on behalf of the Israeli side, we heard the statement from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, if we believe him, then Israel should be striking forcefully in the coming hours, at least from now, for now, from the air. Will there actually be a stronger ground maneuver? We don't know. Nothing seems to, there's no indication of this happening right now about to begin, but again, this is something that could happen. And at least for now, and just by the sounds that we're hearing, quite strong bombardment on behalf of the Israeli side, this is what I think we can expect in the coming hours. And yet, Jonathan, we do need to say clearly to our viewers watching from the south that the fear or the threat of the presence of Hamas terrorists in Israeli territory, while control has been regained over all Israeli communities at times, the threat that some Hamas are still lurking exists. It still exists because you cannot know for sure that if you've thrown away every possible terrorist. I mean, these are people that can be hiding behind the bushes or be in some kind of a forest and may use the time that they think is appropriate and stand up and try to kill anyone in the area. To say that for sure, I think we'll need two or three more days to make sure that no one is around, that no one is able to rise again from behind the tree here and start shooting people. So at least for now, that is a possibility that exists. Having said that, the army is in control of all the communities and also