 Welcome everybody. I hope you guys are doing well. Today we will talk about hiking the Inca Trail to Machu Picchu and I'm going to be joined by our guide in Peru who's going to help us understand what the whole trek entails and he will help us answer some of the questions that I've been receiving over the past few days. Let me introduce you to Roger. He's going to be our guide when we go to Peru and he is the same guide that I hiked the Inca Trail with back in 2018 if I'm not wrong. So Roger why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself and then we'll go ahead and start. Good afternoon everyone. This is Roger. I'm actually a tour guide for about 14 almost 15 years ago. I've been hiking a lot actually. I started my job actually hiking in a locally La Cusco area and after I went up to other countries such as Bolivia, Chile, Argentina, Ecuador and also part of North America where I actually have a bit of sense how hiking can be in different countries. So I've been also into day trips such as you know city tours, agrivalid tours around my city. I've been traveling also with groups around Peru areas so I think I have a bit of experience in terms of like you know hiking and day trips in general. Yeah so I'm here with now trekking pals trying to actually bring groups to my country Peru and do some hiking here in Cusco region. So if anybody is scared, if anybody is thinking about it, if anybody thinks maybe or gets sick in the altitude well let me tell you that maybe you should be because hiking is not actually that easy sometimes especially in high altitudes but you guys will get help from us you know from trekking pals and Cusco area will be the operator of first step expeditions that we are willing to actually work with people and 99% of the groups I got it succeeded sorry 99.99%. Cool that's awesome. Made it to Machu Picchu, hiking on the Inca Trail, different hikes in Cusco and well for this for today I think we're planning on talking just about the Inca Trail probably. Yeah so thank you for the for the intro Roger and I'm really I was lucky that I did the Inca Trail with you because I remember stories from when I did it and I was not as prepared as I should have been at that time but it was still a wonderful adventure. Anyway so for today what I want us to do I want us to focus just on the Inca Trail and hiking the Inca Trail and again there are different trails to get to Machu Picchu but we will focus on the classic Inca Trail to Machu Picchu because this is what we are doing for our group trip from November 6th to November 16th. So maybe Roger let's start with the general overview for somebody who doesn't know what the Inca Trail what the classic Inca Trail entails. Well I mean the details about the trail it's actually challenging by doable. I mean the altitude is probably one of the main things that most of people are afraid of but well when I when I actually take people to Machu Picchu on the for the Inca Trail most of people do feel the altitude but sometimes it makes it worse when people actually are not are not careful with bacterias like touching animals touching I don't know different rocks that they can get a bacteria and sometimes they eat things with their hands so people sometimes get bacterias and they can also get sick and adding only the altitude can be an issue. Actually usually from Cusco City we tend to live by three by four in the morning and get to the head of the trail by a 738 in the morning so we normally start hiking by 830 you know and the total length of the Inca Trail is only about a 26 and a half almost 27 miles which is actually a bit more than one normal marathon will basically do a marathon in four days so they give us plenty time to actually enjoy the hike in our own pace yeah so day one it's actually called as a training day the the trail is not that bad it's kind of flat-ish until lunch and after lunch we gain some elevation actually the first campsite it's located at 10,300 feet roughly which is around 3300 meters like 3300 meters you know so it's kind of a bit lower than Cusco City so the day one usually call it as a training day because we'll try to get into the trail in our own pace and kind of test ourselves you know how the trail would be will feel like in the following days so day one as I said you know it's called as a training day where the morning hike is not that bad just the afternoon hike is some elevation gain until our first campsite the second day is actually known as the challenging day as probably you remember a senorita so Haviva because we tend to do the day the the second day we we conquer two mountains the first one is actually known as Dead Woman's Pass and the second one is Runkurakai Pass having lunch in between the two mountains I usually said and I normally say if we reach the highest point which is Dead Woman's Pass the Inka Trail is already done yeah because obviously that will be the highest point of our trek and once we get there there is only one way and that will be Machu Picchu Inka City but to be able to get to the highest point of the Inka Trail is actually a good climb the climb is it's actually for about a from three three hundred meters up to four two hundred meters so it's around a one thousand two hundred meters so that will make like almost four thousand feet elevation gain on the second day so after the top it's just like an hour and a half downhill so the campsite is like around 12,000 feet so the highest point of the Inka Trail is at 13,800 feet so the Inka Trail after Dead Woman's Pass and we go down to lunch we'll drop some elevation and after gain a lot of elevation to the second pass but the second pass is not as high as the first one as Dead Woman's Pass yeah so that will make it maybe a easier the hike but in the while we're hiking it's not just like walking with our heads down and just you know being thinking about who we're gonna make it or not so we're gonna do a lot of rakes we're gonna just enjoy the landscapes we're gonna take photos group photos individual photos we're gonna stop for toilets probably that's one of the main concerns for a lot of people maybe I will get the question soon or I can also also tell you but on the trail there are toilets the views on the Inka Trail will be probably the motivation for a lot of people yeah because every step you take is usually a photo opportunity or a view opportunity you know even if we stop for toilet on the way like find a happy bush in the way the views are just amazing where people usually said I had the best toilet stop in my life because I had an amazing view you know so that can be also good motivation for a lot of people well usually day two we tend to hike for about a nine to ten hours we usually try to reach our campsite before it gets dark so by November the days will get a little longer so it gets dark by 6 6 30 p.m so usually we want to get to the campsite by 5 4 30 p.m so we love and we also do all start hiking early in the morning you know we love to do that when we have good breeze you know and it's cooler because sometimes during the day it can get really hot and that can be uncomfortable too for a lot of people but I'm not promising that we're gonna hike just in the shade you know there will be sun exposure we're gonna enjoy the sun to sun heat too on the hike so day two became to be as challenging day because you know of the climb of two mountain passes and having a long distance covering and reaching the campsite actually by 5 p.m and obviously enjoying all the Inka original Inka highway or Inka trail that also one of the reasons why people do this beautiful trek you know well the third day is not too bad you know I actually call the third day as the happy day because it's only a morning hike but elevation drop is for about 3,300 feet drop so if anybody will ask me it's like a lot of uphill and downhill yes yeah there is a lot of uphill and downhill so if you need any training well I will recommend you guys to actually get into stairs up and stairs down yeah but all of the stairs are actually pretty nice too and the views still rewarding and all of that on the third day we get to our campsite by usually noon or 1 p.m at most we have lunch and free afternoon you know where people usually try to rest and lie down and recover and get some energy back so the four days the Machu Picchu day from the last campsite to Machu Picchu it's only two hours hike so we should be reaching a Machu Picchu Inka city by 7 in the morning you know and by that time during May usually the sun rises happen by that time by 6.47 in the morning so we're lucky that day we probably will reach Machu Picchu for the sunrise guys and obviously that after Machu Picchu Inka city guided tour and all of that we need to take the bus to go down to the town and actually get a train to get back home or back but get back to Cusco you know hopefully we all will go back to Cusco and be in the city by let's say 6 p.m or 7 p.m. at most so the trail once more guys starting from day one and ending on the last day doable most of people I guided you know they never did something like this before and that will be an example maybe of Habiba that is probably telling you that she wasn't ready for that but she made it you know it's it's usually I'm not saying that you don't have to train you need to train but I do I do want you to have you know a positive mind because most of the things we do in terms of adventures it's 90% mental and 10% physical absolutely and I agree with you I feel like day two was certainly the toughest day but then once that day is over you feel like you're having much more fun on the trail for day three and four it's much more leisure hiking than really fighting to make your way up mm-hmm so Roger one of the questions I'm going to ask you some of the questions that I've been receiving the first concern or questions what happens if somebody we start on the trail first day maybe second day they're not feeling very well on on the mountain on on the track what are the options for trackers in case they have to go back I mean depending of the of where it happens if the problem happens after that woman's past the highest point you know there's only one way and obviously you will try and will help the person doing different little things but if the person gets sick before the pass there's chances of going back to Cusco or you know back to kilometer 82 in this case would it be a company with either my second guide or another guide or a porter that will actually take the person all the way to kilometer 82 yeah on the Inca trail it's not allowed to actually use helicopters or have a helicopter lift yeah um so walking will be and depending what it happened it can be a stretcher but rarely rarely happens these problems you know and usually on day one is when people you know feel like feel the the the problems like either having altitude problems or maybe getting a bacteria for something that they ate in Cusco city or somewhere else so so so there is there is an option should anything go wrong it's not that you are stuck there you can get medical attention if necessary and you can go back to kilometer 82 or the start of the trail yeah in this nearby one on near like an hour away from the first campsite uh or close to our first campsite there is a little clinic from the village so if there is any emergencies also the clinic can ask you well the the client need to go to the clinic obviously a company with us we can take the person and see what is gonna what's happening you know but once the person gets the option of like or things like they need a clinic obviously the person will need to go back to kilometer 82 so so the clinic on not in kilometer 82 on the trail before before camp for day one yeah day one like near or close to our first campsite there is a small clinic but that is actually from the village okay but they can always see people and tell us maybe what is the problem i will probably tell us like the person need to go back and also since there are communities on day one it's possible to hire a horse and ride the horse back to kilometer 82 in case the person is not able to walk anymore oh perfect that that's very good to know yeah um the other question that i receive is about uh high altitude sickness obviously this is something to expect on the infertile uh from your experience what tips or advice do you have for people or things to do before the trek or during the trek to avoid high altitude sickness well altitude sickness it's actually uh it's something that that is unpredictable you know probably the nice thing about altitude sickness is that it doesn't discriminate people uh and depending how you are but like scientifically proved like if people have like big muscles you know these people these boys or ladies you know need more oxygen um and also by drinking water sometimes is not enough if the person is tall or a bit large you know so i usually recommend to bring powder electrolytes the ones that people use when they are dehydrated uh electrolytes like we buy sometimes like Gatorade Powerade in my personal opinion that's useless because those drinks they only have sugar um and that's something that it doesn't really help as much with the you know dehydration one of the symptoms of altitude sickness has been dehydrated so if you bring powder electrolytes that can actually help you in cases of dehydration that will help you a lot yeah um in cusco in cusco city we actually have a small fluid this one i don't know if you try it i'll take it on the trail it's called our florida yeah this is actually one of the fluids that we we we give it to the clients in case they get a little bit of altitude sickness it's a bigger bottle what is it made of they're different aromas this is only made of aromatic flowers and alcohol it was actually invented by a new york couple that actually clears up the sinus cities and makes you breathe better um so during the trips the trips that we're gonna do that will definitely help because our bodies will actually try or your bodies will try to understand the altitude better um and that will be a big help because during the day trips in cusco city like going on city tour sacred valley tour or moving around your body will be like getting into the altitude little by little so if you control your breathing in case you get altitude sickness in cusco city that will help you a lot when i will pick you up in cusco airport i will actually take you to hotels and i will give you obviously more instructions but the best way maybe to actually get adjusted adjusted to the altitude in in cusco city is by moving slowly you know i know a lot of people get excited when they get to cusco city you know and they want to go everywhere because there are llamas everywhere there are locals everywhere there stores everywhere and they want to do quick but if you move fast and and forget about like hydrating yourselves altitude is going to affect you it's going to actually uh it's going to make you dehydrated and during the nights you will feel you know your headaches and also you might not be able to sleep because your body did not actually get enough oxygen and obviously enough water or liquid or fluid uh so drinking water or electrolytes is one of the ways second way it's actually having this little fluid on it and if you guys get to the level that you need oxygen well cusco has many places to get oxygen every hotel in cusco has oxygen tanks so they can also give you that but if you don't want to get all of this oxygen and being sick maybe for hours or maybe one or two days probably guys being taking it out taking it easy may will help you and always go on a slow pace and actually trying to help each other might help you diamox a lot of people believe that diamox helps with the altitude it's true in some ways but remember that diamox is already make you go to the toilet more make you pee a lot so if you don't replace the fluids that you are actually exposing in the toilet so you will still get altitude sickness yeah so you just need to replace water constantly you drink and you you more you'll go to the toilet right away now coca leaves coca leaves it helps yeah coca leaves or coca tea it helps but if any of you guys or any of your group will have like hard problems i don't recommend to drink coca tea or chill coca leaves for those people because coca makes people hyper yeah you can have coca tea yes as long as you're okay as long as you know that you are fine but if you know that your heart it's not normal like other people probably you may not have to or you may not need to drink coca tea guys yeah remember one of the alkalis of coca leaves is cocaine and that makes you hyper yeah so the three days prior the hike will help you guys to understand the altitude and maybe for the hike will know our bodies better and will be able to actually do and deal with altitude yeah now i mentioned it earlier that sometimes people i mean people yeah feel the altitude but if you get sick with a bacteria that might make it a little worse yeah so when you come to cusco or to Peru try to eat in safe places their restaurants were actually recommended to go there are local places that are pointed out to you in our walking tour in cusco city once you reach to the place to the city uh and well for dinners or lunch to you know when you have them on your own i can always tell you where but don't i mean try not to go and eat in like very very cheap places in cusco city yeah or Peru in general at least before the hike maybe after the hike you can try anything if you survive the hike nothing can kill you guys trust me yeah so no no street food before the trail before the trek after that you're free there are yeah we have some safe places to eat that i know and i can take you because i've been we've been working with those people and all the groups that we took to the place that were totally okay with the food so so but there are other places where probably you shouldn't go okay yeah so if i heard that in the states or like like any country people can actually get vaccines for cholera right if if it's possible i mean just in case you know that can be a good option too okay cool and in Peru never drink never drink tap water guys cool and so on that on that note about the water so we'll have and ask everybody to stick to bottled water and then on the trail we are getting boiled water from the chefs on a daily basis correct yes every lunch stop and campsite will give you boil and cool the water okay so safe water no ways that you will get sick with the water yeah okay yes it's provided it's included until the last campsite okay perfect on the hike on the hike you know there will be like breakfast lunch and dinner every day and in between a lunch and dinner like once we get to the campsite there will be always chances of grabbing tea you know or coffee in case people like i know like in north america or other continents in the world like coffee is a big thing where people love coffee you know so if you let's say are addicts to coffee and if you don't have it you know normally one of the effects is like having headaches so sometimes people get confused you know like when they stop drinking coffee because it's recommended not to do that in the altitude yeah but what happened when people don't have something that they really need and it's a daily thing it will affect them and it will make it worse also with the altitude so have your coffee if you're addicted to it guys yeah that's a good point because you will be confused whether it's just the addiction or really high altitude yeah the other thing i was going to ask your order is about the oxygen canisters you mentioned earlier that they are usually available in the hotels on the trail are we going to have some backups just in case yeah we you know the our company is well equipped with things so we will take walkie-talkies where we'll be in contact with a chef and the porters who will be always ahead of us i'll be connected with the second guy that will be with us also on the hike so if anything happened they will be able also to come back and and help the people who needs help too on the trail because in some ways you know for the porters you know the in-cat trail is basically a piece of cake you know and they just basically run up and down so they can always help people too on the hike but oxygen yes we'll actually take oxygen bottles guys too for the group in case anybody needs them you know we get all the camping equipment like tents you know sleeping pads we'll take all the cooking equipment all the food the group will have two chefs you know the rest of the porters so we actually work with people who have a good hiking experience in terms of porters chefs guides and all the supplies that we need for the trek on the in-cat trail in on the in-cat trail we need to know we need to be self-sufficient guys yeah and we'll be self-sufficient and we are self-sufficient of any hike so it'll feel like a small community for the four-day trek that we're doing or we'll do on november okay so there is a question about walking sticks tracking poles do you recommend walking sticks for this hike oh yeah yes hiking boots walking sticks proper hiking pants a dry fit shirts yeah I usually recommend long sleeved shirts because there are mosquitoes in in some campsites yeah and if you they have UV protection even better sun hat windbreakers is the beginning of the rainy season november you know so it doesn't rain as much but we'll have some drizzles for sure so we need to be ready for that we'll provide some rain ponchos but if you can bring a rain jacket rain pants for the hike even better you know that will help you a lot now the campsites are pretty are pretty nice not as cold as other places the coldest campsite will be the second one yeah and the warmest campsite will be the third one the second one the temperature will be like let's say 32 degrees Fahrenheit okay yeah so at that time because november is the beginning of summer but the summer in cusco we kind of you know it's a little different the summer in cusco during the nights is still a little cold but during the days are pretty nice yeah usually so yes walking sticks hiking boots proper rain proper pants rain pants rain jackets sunglasses sunscreen mosquitoes did are recommended to ring on the hike okay so we will be just an FYI for everybody who's watching we will be sending a detailed list to everybody who's joining us on our group trip from november 6th to november 16th we will be sharing a detailed list of everything that you need to pack on the trail so that should be a problem i wanted to talk a little bit more about training because that's the that's an important thing i tell people if you want to have fun and have a pleasant experience on the mountain you have to train so what are some of your tips for people out here to start preparing for the track um i mean for my first inka trail i'll never train but i do recommend to train for you definitely if anybody's into swimming good because swimming is actually a good sport for to control your breathing and your lung capacity yeah and if you're into hiking and you have a good backyard where you have uphills and downhills go for it just don't get that excited and run down the hills or run up the hills because on the downhills we kind of we kind of need to pace ourselves especially on the stairs down you know um hiking for sure like if you if you can hike you know like uphills and downhills i think the inka trail won't be an issue most of people i i guide it and i don't know if you agree uh have eva you know they complain a bit about the downhills part the downhill part you know because sometimes people are they don't have good balance and that's why we recommend to bring walking sticks because you keep your balance well and in that way you can just go downhill on your own pace but also going too slow in downhill is not recommended because you're hurting your knees you know by standing for too long you know walking down for too long so that hurts your knees a little bit so if you keep a decent pace with the walking sticks i think you won't hurt your knees and you should be fine when you will reach the land stops and campsites yeah so yes a little yes a little training if you guys have time most of people usually don't have time to do much training you know if you find stairs at least in some buildings try to take them up and down and that may help you yeah but if you do have a nice backyard golf or a day hike and go up and down you know and that will help you totally for the inka trail which is which we all find hundreds and hundreds or even thousands and thousands of stairs yeah yeah that's the thing about the inka trail which um when i did it i didn't expect a lot of stairs but also the way the stairs are it's mostly rocks and some of the stairs are pretty narrow so you really have to watch your feet and like you said that's why using tracking poles will help you with stability and can be really useful yes yes so i got it people also who went to the escalator or inka later thing on the states that what they're trying the trains on them on themselves you know like trying to get or understand how hiking what it feels like it helps any little thing it helps remember that but during your training don't get hurt that's why i'm saying don't get too crazy yeah let's say if you're going to train and you find stairs down try to walk on them on sideways so in that way it won't as you won't hurt your knees as much and if you're going to actually practice with walking sticks you can actually try to make your sticks like on the chest height for the downhills and go you know remember that on the downhills you should your sticks go first and after you yeah so you gotta first stick the stick your walking sticks in a safe place that you can it can hold your weight a little bit and after take the step down yeah and that you should repeat that constantly and you'll see that your body will actually understand the rhythm and that will be actually pretty good for the inka trail well on the inka trail i will tell you all of these small details again but since you guys have you know some time to get to train and get maybe an idea this can be a good opportunity you know to go on little day hikes you know or just climb a hill that you never wanted but this will be a chance that it will make you want to go to just to test yourself and see how it feels like yeah so yeah remember that on the first two days we'll go for from almost 10,000 feet up to almost 14,000 feet so in two days we'll reach that elevation now from two from 14,000 feet we'll go to 8,000 feet which is Machu Picchu inka city i'm doing this overview know like we're going to go up and after down it's like a big capital letter m and after straight down and flat section so it's not going to be us all uphill and all downhill there are some nice places to some nice flat sections where we're going to we can enjoy and let our let our legs rest for a little bit what is your favorite section on the inka trail your personal favorite oh i mean my my my favorite part is actually day two okay because i see people suffering no just kidding yes kidding yes kidding no no no no no uh the inka trail is it's beautiful in general yeah it's amazing you you know a habiba but i think i think the day that i really enjoyed the most is the third day yeah third day uh even for me as a guide i even have more time to talk with my people you know and even like tell them more stories because i know we have time to actually get to the campsite we go the afternoon you know it's not like the other days we're gonna run no we're gonna take it slow but there's always the concern of like we're gonna reach it on time you know because the first two days are pretty long but the third day and the fourth day are kind of easier we got time to reach the third campsite and machu Picchu and the views you know and the foresty area the cloud forest the inka highway the inka sites also are pretty amazing yeah that day i would say is my faith but maybe maybe other people once you will be there you will tell me you know which day will be yours i tell you what for me i really enjoyed day three because a it was easier and i was just suffering on day two and also i think what day three was when we saw the cloud forest is that correct yeah so yeah for me seeing the cloud forest was probably one of the best things for me on the on the inka trail and there were a lot of llamas and alpacas all around so i liked it too mm-hmm yeah the llamas are there too yeah oh by the way and some wildlife so what are some of the things um i mean just general tips about how to interact with the the wildlife there and things that we should be aware of i mean you know by knowledge generic generic knowledge you know the the historical park of machu Picchu the total area is about 20 000 square miles yeah and in that little space or big space or large space we got 50 archaeological sites and over 18 000 species of flora and fauna meaning animals and vegetation yeah on our trip yeah on our on the on the trail that we're gonna follow because there is actually people every day the chances of seeing wildlife close by us it will be a big challenge we might not see in our trail wildlife unless we are lucky and we can spot on a distance you know uh i don't know golden foxes uh if we're lucky like i've never i only saw once in home i got in life a mountain lion that was like you know that's how rare is like we might not see it i saw a bear i saw bears like seven times in home i got in life and i've been guiding for like 14 years already um there's white tail deer maybe we'll see white tail deer on the way um there are snakes so snakes don't like people so they will they'll be away from us so and maybe we'll be more chances of seeing birds yeah a lot of birds hummingbirds the the giant hummingbird like a lot of a hawks falcons a we're gonna see maybe two kens on the third day a all sorts of butterflies you know butterflies don't kill you guys so you should be fine with them yeah i mean and the vegetation you know no one actually found poison oak on the bushes when they go to the toilet nobody got rashes from the vegetation what i know and well there are toilets in the campsites too and lunch stops so in case people are afraid of going to the bushes or the vegetation for toilets well there will be toilets in every campsites and lunch stops and if there are toilets we gotta use them right so wildlife in uh in the inka trail it's it's fine it's totally okay so and the bears that i mentioned guys they are not aggressive even if we see them with the babies and the cubs these bears will run away from us there's no records reported that a bear attack a person or a person go killed by a bear no never there's no reports also of mountain lions killing people it never happened you know because it's rare to see one because there are many people every day walking in the area so one of the things that we will enjoy the most will be the vegetation for sure yeah vegetation of the clough forest which is actually known as the beginning of the amazon so that is a neat vegetation gaze yeah awesome awesome well thank you so much roger this is all great information if you guys have any additional questions about hiking the inka trail please feel free to leave them in the comments we will be happy to answer them and in the meantime i think the other question that keeps uh coming my way is around packing for the inka trail when in a in a backpack what should you have on your day hikes hair dryer for sure and an oven yes no no that's a yoga stand there is no electricity on the inka trail guys yeah no power so in your day pack you all will need a day pack yeah because that will be basically your partner on the inka trail yeah on the inka trail will provide you this double box yeah this double box will be the ones that will be provided so you can pack all your personal items that you guys will have access to them only at the campsites yeah but you will have your day pack every day with you so your day pack should be with camel back or water canteens yeah you should actually get water canteens or camel bags for like three liters each yeah so if you find a camel back maybe that will be a two liter one or maybe three and besides the camel back you still need to bring up a nice water bottle a reusable one yeah why i'm saying that because sometimes people don't want to mix the electrolytes in the camel back because the taste will stay in the camel back yeah but if you have an extra bottle you can mix your electrolytes in that one and you can always drink for that and mix anything over there yeah so water canteens or camel bags will be useful for your day pack i saw a lot of people bringing this all spray backpack which is pretty good for hiking actually it has a lot of nice pouches where they are very useful yeah and also your day pack should be your rain jacket rain pants every day sunscreen mosquitoes did sunglasses sun hat just in case a warm a warm layer like a fleece yeah and also a first aid kit a personal first aid kit yeah every person should have that we all take one first aid kit but we also recommend our clients to bring their own if any person has any medical condition that is not that serious yeah bring the pills or the or the or the pills that they are recommended to take yeah all be important for you i saw a lot of people who have suffered with asthma so bring the inhaler please don't forget to do that yeah um what else walking sticks will be should be with you every day by the end of the hike you will be glad that you brought them or you can always rent them from us we go with good walking sticks the carbon and aluminium type yeah that you can actually make it longer or shorter yeah they are pretty good for hiking and they are very light to carry guys so it will be comfortable for you in case you rent them from us but in case you want to bring your own you're totally welcome to do that yeah so your day pack also you need to have some snacks guys snacks that people are used to or like it sometimes when people get altitude sickness altitude sickness it stops hunger but if they have snacks or food that they like maybe your your tummies will be more like accepting that that kind of food and at least you will have some food in your tummy yeah so some little snacks will be recommended chocolate most of people do like chocolate I do recommend to bring chocolate you know also for your guides okay um you need to bring some granola bars yeah that I saw a lot of cliff bars that people bring actually those are pretty useful and easy to eat you know if you're one of those people who are like munchers like munching constantly guys bring a snacks your own we'll give you snacks but those are small ones you know there will be a fruit you know a chocolate or granola and granola bar but if you guys bring your own snacks that you like you are used to welcome yeah um that should be in your day packs guys every day you know important and never forget your headland or flashlight the headland of flashlight every day in your day pack every day no matter what yeah now in your duffel bags obviously in your duffel bags you need to actually take some clean clothes to change at the campsites maybe and also your warm clothes that you need them also to sleep in during the nights yeah and also your sleeping bag if you're bringing your own make sure that the duffel bag is actually I'm sorry that the sleeping bag it's probably below 32 degrees Celsius sorry Fahrenheit yeah below 32 degrees Fahrenheit it will be the recommendation of the of the sleeping bags that you can bring for the Inca trail yeah and if you're renting from us the sleeping bags are for seasons the ones that we have and they can actually handle the cold without any problem yeah we also provide liners with the sleeping bags guys in here yeah liners are like small little sheets that you can actually fit in first and after the sleeping bag on and you can just pass out and sleep like baby llamas uh-huh so pretty pretty much you don't need much on the Inca trail guys yeah don't overpack you know overpacking it will make you carry things for nothing but if you if you want to overpack maybe take things that might be useful for you in terms of like first aid you know like band aid for blisters for example in your first aid make sure to have a small needle just in case guys because if you guys get a blister on day one on day two we gotta pop that blister no if you don't if you don't pop the blister that blister is gonna grow and the wound is gonna get bigger so it's better to pop it put a small skin on it and good to go it burns a little bit but no pain no gain right yeah um yeah i think we covered a lot of things do you have anything else that you want to share with the all of us here yeah i'm excited to meet you guys yeah uh well the Inca trail is one of the 10 top hikes in the world for the National Geographic Society so it's actually highly recommended to do the Inca trail many people think that the Inca trail is pretty crowded yeah until they get to Machu Picchu Inca city obviously in Machu Picchu we cannot avoid the crowds but on the Inca trail it's not as crowded as many people would think yeah because the Inca trail only sells 500 tickets and actually 350 are the porters and 150 are tourists yeah so there will be more porters and guides than tourists actually and the camp says that we manage a little bit different than the others so in that way we can avoid the crowds and stay on our own if possible yeah so since there are options to go to Machu Picchu and one of them is by train but all of you are deciding to hike yeah i would recommend you to enjoy the journey yeah more than the destination Machu Picchu will be there you will take a photo of it and i can even send you a photo of it but your experience of hiking in the end is the feeling of it is way different and you guys will experience all of that with us so i'll see you soon yeah and you know roger that's what i tell people you can take the train but that feeling when you work so hard for four days and you get to the site you appreciate it more and you feel like you really deserve to be there yep all right awesome well thank you so much roger for your time i am so excited to see you and we'll we'll keep in touch and we'll certainly talk to you before we see you in Peru yes see you soon all right take care and thank you everyone for coming in today and thank you guys for all of your questions we'll see you in the next live stream yep see you bye bye