 August 17th meeting of the Arlington Re-Development Board being recorded by ACMI. First on our agenda this evening is an environmental design review special permit for 59 Lowell Street applicants requesting a large house addition parcel about a minute and bikeway. I would ask the applicant to step forward and have a seat. Tell us your name and address for the right place. Sure Kathleen, we are already 59 Lowell Street. More is mine, okay? I've not done this before, so just redirect me as needed. So the addition is mainly to add another bedroom I'm expecting, so I need another bedroom. And you know I need the floor space below it and I guess the basement sits at above the 750 square foot mark. I guess there's other measures that I don't think apply with this particular that were sort of with just the building permit. What's the 750 foot mark? That's for the ZBA I guess primarily and we went down the wrong path so I've kind of been going in circles for a while. Yeah, if I could interject just a second. The 750 square feet is if you're increasing the large house addition bylaw is if you're increasing your gross square footage floor space by 750 square feet or 50% or more of the original structures gross floor area. You need a special permit for a large house addition and because this property above the bike path it was directed to similarly to one on Summer Street in 2012. So the total square footage now is $1,298? That includes base and space, yeah. And the new is $2,460? Yeah, that's base and space again. Both include space? Yeah. So it is less than twice just a little bit, right? Yeah. So it's triggered by the over 700 foot. That and the bike path. So I think we went through this but it just being on the bike path apparently is something that could just send over on its own and having to visit each of you. Now there's the 12 questions. What would you like me to start with? What would be most useful? Would it be from the plans? Would it be from impact in the neighborhood? The pictures to show that I won't be obstructing anybody's view? To understand the plan and the site plan. Start with the site plan. Right. How does it sit? And then how big is it? Someone wants a big copy because I don't mind using a small one. I can flip this one as good. No, we're good. Alright, since this is here. Alright, so what this will involve is a little tiny bump out in the back. You have the site plan in there something? Oh, the site plan, the survey. Yeah, sorry. Is that what we got here? Because that's a big, that's fine. Yes, so the existing house is on the left. The addition is on the right. And according to, I guess it's ISD, as long as the addition, you can keep parallel lines back of the house existing if you go closer than 10 feet. So they are an inch less than that mark. I actually would have gone a little bit more in the architect push for this. But my neighbor, my neighbor Kay is at the house that would be 6'6". So just passing the baby back and forth too. You might be rethinkin'. No, I got a grandchild that was way too far away. Get your fix. Compensate. So the side part is that I got a hallway on the second floor really. So I don't have to cut into a bedroom because I do need the bedroom space. I didn't want to think it into a tiny little room and it would kind of be for purpose. And the kitchen will, they'll be sitting room off at the kitchen. And a bathroom added on the first floor. Do you have questions about this? Yeah, I have reviewed this. I think it's a great plan. I've realized there's only one area of concern. I think everything else really hit the mark on it as far as I'm concerned. I agree with you. The zoning code allows the side yard set back. It's less than 10 feet. You can continue to use whatever it is that you have there now as long as you're going straight back. There's an angle here, but I'm not worried about that. And I was impressed by the fact that you're planning on adding additional solar paneling, if I understand. Definitely the geothermal. The solar, I'm going to have to see if I can find a bunch to last for that. Okay. But you're doing a lot of really great notes on this. The only thing that I had a concern about was with drainage. And that was the one area in your application that you wrote a comment on in the 12 different sections that we look at for environmental design review. There's one area for drainage. And this is sort of tied into a provision of a general bylaw that says if you're adding more than 350 square feet of impervious surface, then you're supposed to file a plan with the town engineer for mitigation. I'll get you the text on that in just a second. The architect went through this. I know I went through his bill. That's nice. But we do have an architect on the board. That's okay. I know I went through his bill that had listed out. That was one of the items. So I believe it was done, but maybe it was done through the ZBA process? Well, maybe because the ZBA would be able to give you relief if there was an adverse finding by the town engineer. But I guess my threshold question is, do you know how much additional square footage of impervious surface is being added? So that would be impervious surface would be the roof over the new addition. I'm not sure what materials you have for decking, but possibly decking as well. Well, decking will have slots. Okay. So that's probably okay. I'm just saying that when it comes to impervious surface. But do you know what the calculation of the square footage of a new portion of the roof is? Well, the houses, I guess each floor, it's less than two, I guess it's probably less than 300 square feet per layer. So that would be the mouse. Right. So you'd probably have a new roof area of about 300 square feet. Yes. Okay. Because if you're under 350, then all of the stuff that I'm talking about now is moved. Oh, great. If you're at 350 or more, then you have to go through this. It would know. Because if you think about the calculations of the size of the house and what's being added, it couldn't be more than 350. Even if I'm off a little, I can't be off that much. It would be, go ahead. Yeah, no, I'm sorry. Well, I mean, there's no way from the plans that I have, and I'm not a good enough guy with a slide rule or a architect scale to measure off the scale off of the plan. But I did note on one area where you're saying the lot coverage will increase by 8%. A total lot. Yeah. So I'm not sure what goes into lot coverage if that includes the deck or if it's just the addition. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. Because the lot coverage, if it's 8%, what's your lot size again? 5,062? Yeah. I mean, that gets you to about 400 square feet of additional lot coverage. So that's where I'm beginning to get a little concerned about how close you are. So I think if you could have your architect come back to us and say, yes, how do I do this? There's some way I can come up with this. The architect, then, just have them do your problems with them. Well, it doesn't have to be the same architect. That's tricky then, too. That's going to cost me even more. This guy is... I understand. I mean, I'm kind of guessing here that you're under the 350. It would just be nice to know that you're under the 350. Yeah. So the sheet, let me look at the sheet because I could do this out. Oh, I don't have the ZVA. I want to work on that. I separated that off. So it's just total coverage, right? What's your saying to that? Well, yeah, if you did it on lot coverage, you know, the total amount of footage is a lot of which is increasing by 8%. So 8% times the 5,062 square feet, that would get you over 400 square feet of... It has to include the deck. It doesn't include taking down the previous deck later. So it wouldn't be that much of an increase. I mean, there's some... I can practice. Plan A, 1.3, you've got a lot of the dimensions of the new area there. It looks like, you know, again, I would be guessing, but it looks like your addition there is about, it's like 23 by 13, something like that. And there's a bump out of existing coverage that disappears with that, so you have to subtract that. Okay. Okay. Well, you're probably okay. Just out of curiosity then, presuming the issue is moved, but just out of my own curiosity, is there any plan to do anything additional with respect to runoff or drainage on the property? I am doing a French drain. Okay. Along the side of the house. That helps. Okay. Is that definitely part of the plan? It is. It is. I get a tiny bit of watering by the front of the house, so I want to have that addressed and make sure that I don't have problems. Okay. And that runs along which side of the house? Is that over here? This side. This side. Okay. Yeah, that's the only place where I forget. It's just a tiny bit, but I do get a little better. Okay. Well, I don't really have any other questions. I'm taking this as a new coverage. Yeah. That's all I have. But I would trust the architect. Well, no, the same deal. I'm just totally really rough estimate. It's close to 358. I got this right. But under? No. I mean, I'm so close to it. Yeah, you get a little bit. So that's probably taking out that. Mm-hmm. So we get it back. No. I mean, subtracting your bump out. That's it. That was there before. And just take it. So this is that. Oh, no. And you take this. And just do this. Okay. And then in terms of the furthest, it also has the bump out here. Yeah. So you can almost see the bump out. Oh, the bump out's already there. Oh, you're on it. And then, so you can basically ignore this with because of the bump out, I think. And you're just doing this. You're under. Great. I think you're around three. It's funny. Okay. Yeah. But you see what I'm saying? No, I totally get it. I think that's even bigger. I think that's a wash. That rectangle might be bigger. Yeah, I think so. But even if you call that a wash. Right. You need to call it a wash. Yeah. Is there only talk about new people? Right. So, yeah. So, I think you're okay. Okay, good. Because, I mean, it's just going to be here before this is built. It's great. I don't have anything additional. The setback, I'm just from my education. The setbacks from the decks don't matter. Of course, there's a minimum there. I know that's much less than the main structure of the house. I'm just curious. Are you talking about like that? The corner of the deck. Of the deck. The north easterly, of course, with the deck. Yeah, the north easterly of the old deck looks like it's closer than the 64. Yeah. You see, so this one is closer, I'd say, than that one. But that one is closer than it is. It says here. Oh, it's better. So, that's only 248. Wait, that's the new or the old? That's the new. That's the new. So, look at it. Let's see. What I'm saying is this is the old. This is the old. Yeah. The old is even closer, but it's not measured either. Now, this? This. Look at it. No, it is. That's no good. But what I'm saying is that they're going off of the 886, so you're right. It's closer, but I'm just wondering what the reg is on that. I can go grab a file off your work. It's okay. I'm just, I'm sure you guys went through that. I'm just curious what that is. I don't think the building department went through it, but I'm not as concerned about that because the contractors could be much easier. Right. We'll be best. So, just maybe put that in a double check. The top of the house is the same, even of Rachel. Yeah, except there'll be, for the bump out part, there'll be a. Yeah, but it's not higher than. South facing. No, it's all the same height. Nothing changes in terms of height. It's the extension of the same height. Yep. And I was careful about things like not having the windows point directly at my neighbors. Rachel. We like each other a lot, but there's nature on space, so we all like that. I like the geothermal. I'm very excited about that. Yeah, I'm here interested in it. Bill Enzel is the guy you use. I call him, like, if you're ready to pull the trigger because Massachusetts has a grant program just until September. And until 2016, you get a 30% tax credit. So, you know, by being able to pull the trigger right away, I'll be able to get the Massachusetts grant plus the tax credit. Yeah. I just wanted to be sure to explain anything in the photographs or there's a couple of photographs that really show that area between the two houses. It's hard to convey from a street view that the yard goes down, slopes down. So, a lot of the height of the addition is below the street grade. But to answer your question, what's the decision is the board has 14 days from a vote on special permit to file their written decision. And then there's a 20 to 8 appeal period. And then after that appeal period of elapses, you take the decision and you file it for registry of Ds. And once it's recorded for registry of Ds, you have to bring proof of that recording back to the planning department and the inspection services department and then apply for your billing permit. Okay. I can see that in the data. Thank you. So, it's 14 days plus 20 days. Kathleen, do you still have anything pending before the ZBA? No, no, I don't got transferred over to this process. I think though that in addition to what Andy was pointing out about the proposed deck, also the steps on the easterly side are closer to the law line than the 8.6, which is the established setback that you have with the present structure. And there are some carve-out exceptions for steps, but that is something that we need to verify for both the steps and the deck because we are establishing a new setback at 3.8 based off this right there and then here as well. Well, 4.1 is existing. Those are new steps, I think. Are they? I think so because if you look at your existing conditions. Let's go close to where the steps go now. Okay. Yeah. Where are the steps going? They go straight down now. Oh, yeah. So if you look at proposed purses. It's like talking about the foot difference from where it is now. And it wasn't the line that was used. So I don't think it's helpful for the line. I mean, I mean, sometimes we do allow encroachments for steps and things like bay windows and so on like that into the side yard setback. But yeah, I just want to make sure that, you know, I mean, we're sort of already contemplating that we may be asking you to shave off a quarter of the deck to try to stay within that but it would be helpful to know how much relief we can give the applicant or how much latitude that you have to work with. So you're doing this little alteration to this plan as possible, you know. Such that you could take the bottom of the steps and draw that line as your as your porch line potentially. That's an existing step. It's really, it looks very close to what's there now. It does. Or what plans. It's actually fine. I mean, it looks so similar. We'll see. Is there any issue? Like this. If you've got that, you could just apply the same line. Okay. I think. Yeah, it looks so close. It's, yeah. That would be an issue. The deck and step would be further into the back, right? Yes, they're further than the A4A. Rotten a little bit as you go back. Boy, it would be parallel to the property line. Your side does. My side. Yeah, it is. So actually with the demo. Yeah, it looks very similar. So what would be, I mean, one possibility is to say that the distance of the existing stair. Yeah. Parallel to the property line should not be increased in the new deck or stairs. Just make sure that that happens because it looks, it looks to me like it's. It's probably a little bit more than four feet. It might be a little bit more than four feet that show here. It might be a little more than that. It's going to be great to see that point. Yeah. It's a great offset of the property line. I don't see any problem with that. Do you need new drawings to reflect this? No, I think we can make that a condition potentially. Good. Thank you. They even mark up the drawing, right? I don't even know if you need to. Just say it in words. Okay. Yeah. So do you mean to think about formulaing in motion? Yeah. I'm going to maybe end the year the right person to put together the motion. I would suggest that we, where the applicant's petition is silent on drainage, just adding in that the applicant will install a French drain along the, I guess it's at the western side of the foundation. Yes. And I don't think we need to be too particular about how big it needs to be. I would be quite comfortable with that to you because you're the person who's going to be, you know, dealing with it if it isn't sufficient to offset the seepage issue on that side. But then with respect to the setback and I think a better grip on that than I think. So I defer to you to make a motion. So I'll make a motion to approve the special permit application, which is EDR application for 59 Louis Street in following conditions. One is installing French drain along the western foundation. And the other is that the new deck and stairs, the newly constructed deck and stairs should not be closer to the property line at a perpendicular angle than the existing stair or deck, whichever is closer. Than the existing stair? Or deck, whichever is closer to the property line. I think it's the stair, but I'm just in case. So it's that diagram. So X is X. One second. Hi. Hi. Hi. Thank you. And realistically to know how many days it would take before filing, so I can get the contractor. Well, we've got to submit it to the town clerk. We have to sign it to submit it to the town clerk. There's a 21 day appeal period. Yeah. And just the 14 days, then we can influx from now, right? Yeah. So, obviously, there's something that... Easy to... You don't have to come back to us. No. This is... We won't have to come back. This is just what we take care of. We have to come down and sign it. Sign it, literally. So that's what's going to happen. You don't have to do anything. You just wait to hear that it's been filed and that the appeal period has ended. Right. But to... I mean, the 14 days is a time of flux, right? So, I mean, it could all be signed to tomorrow and then I could start potentially September 7th or it could be two weeks later than that before I had to break grounds. So that's... I want to keep the contractor for scheduling and I'm appraised of these timelines. And, you know, right now he has it finishing on my UD. And that's starting on September 7th or 8th. So I'm a little nervous. Everyone's going to be around. Anyone going on vacation? Yeah. Okay. I'm going around tomorrow morning and then we'll be back in film. Back in Friday? Okay, that's doable. And how about you, Bruce? I leave tomorrow morning and back on the 26th, which is Wednesday. Okay, that's not too bad. I could... If you have a signature page, I could stop here in the morning. I could do this. Oh, wonderful. That's not too bad. Yeah, that's the call. There's only two conditions. Yeah. Okay. And, you know, some of the general conditions that are on... Right. Yes, yes. Only two special conditions are related to this particular application. Why don't we plan it later? Okay. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. I'm impressed about all these timelines. It's a nice project. Make sure you do tell your contractor. He's probably familiar with it. But after the board signs the decision, it's about the time part of the... You still do have the appeal period. Yes. But at least you'll know that that's fixed. Yes. Yeah, I've been... I've prepped him about the appeal period, just not the other 14 days. Well, thank you all very much. Good luck. Good luck. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. I'm going to grab all of this. Well, you guys want... Between the frozen yogurts. Yes. That's great. We used to have wine Wednesdays, but... Yeah, but... Yeah. That's why they're right there. Yeah. Actually, this one might be easier. Oh, yeah. I'm going to sort of stick it in the back door. Yes. Thank you. Good night. Good night. Good night. So, the first institute conducts these technical assistance panels for member members and their field and IR members. And we had a preliminary conference call with some of the architects who might serve on the technical assistance panel. Michelle Landers is the director of the plant of Boston. Nyle McDonough with the Berkshire Group and his co-chair of the Verbaland Institute's Boston Real Estate Advisory Committee, Dick Lampman from BAR and BAR Inc. who's a co-chair of the Verbaland Institute's Boston Real Estate Advisory Committee, and Barry Abramson, the president of Abramson and Associates, who's co-chair of the Olize Boston Real Estate Advisory Committee to try to scope the project and the proposed project. You see in your packet the outline of the proposed area, which includes the commercial building on Franklin and Broadway. It includes the commercial properties on Franklin Street, then running west, it runs along Broadway, and continues to what used to be Old Mystic Street, well not Old Mystic Street, I mean I have a company club, but where Mystic Street used to go down, where it's now sidewalk near Russell Common. It also includes the building's further down Mystic Street, as you see. This would be a very intensive one-day effort. It would include stakeholder interviews and a public meeting, and it concludes with a report. About six weeks later they present a report with issues and opportunities. When we had originally discussed this with them, we were thinking about a September event, because the fall gets very busy, but I think at this rate it would have to be late September or early October. So I have to check with Urban Land Institute to see if we can shift a little bit further out. Based on the information in the packet, do you have any questions or was the information clear? This is one of the... So I have a couple of questions. This effort really doesn't start with a presupposition as to what the eventual build-out would be, right? This is more... No, it doesn't assume a particular density or height. The material on the flyers that talks about summary of the issues on the second page, talks about the development potential, mixed-use development in Russell Commons, and that would only seem to make sense if they were doing full-time great parking there. So is that part of what they're talking about? Sorry to make you repeat yourself. Making some notes. On the first page of this handout about the project it says, top paragraph says one of the things that would be considered would be mixed-use development in Russell Commons, which to my mind only makes sense if you're putting parking underground. So is that premature to... So what we asked them to consider was whether there was any opportunity to do mixed-use on the outside perimeter. Okay. Some people have said from time to time they've said that that would be a good location for that and that would be possible and there's enough room there. We'd be asking them, is there really enough room there to contemplate some perimeter development around parking and put a deck on top of everything? And then my other question was just about the area that we're talking about and you described the various buildings and so on. I think we're only looking on the north side of Mass Ave. No, it's both sides here. It's the upper one. I was looking at this carefully. The little red rectangle here is actually the full perimeter of this image here. Okay. So it picks up Massachusets Avenue, is this kind of an arc? Well, that's a big area to do in a day. It is. It picks up, I think they're trying to get across the street on Broadway Plaza. That's square. That's actually not clear. I should clarify. That square shows roughly where the locus is but this top map with the white outline shows the limit of the study area. Sorry, Andy, I should have made that distinction. The only property... The study area, I see. Yeah. Okay. Was that one on Franklin Street? Just the one on Franklin Street, which is between Mass Ave. That's the building that includes Jackie's design group, the Polinas and what used to be the wild trial of ISIS. And it doesn't include the fire station? Correct. Right, which is strange. Well, the reason, there's good reason for that, from a public investment perspective, we've just spent a lot of money upgrading that. There was, as you see in the description of the two-page description, at one point it was recommended that the town consider relocating that fire station and using that for commercial development. The planning process, the capital planning process for updating that station in place is already underway. And in fact, the investment has just been made and it's... Here it's beautiful. The fire station? Yes. So that's... But it's... From a design perspective, it may not make sense, but from a public investment perspective, there's kind of no turning back. But isn't it part of the study area? I mean, it's an open space. It's... No, it is... I'm not saying you have to build on it, but you have to look at it before you can design anything on the side of the street that's known. That's basing it? We have to know that it's there. Maybe that's implicit in this that whatever you do with it, which is in the white outline, study area... Has to acknowledge that there's a functioning fire station there and a memorial park. Right. And the road and Mass Ave. It's kind of hard to do it without kind of grabbing a cross mystic, you know, this much. I mean, just in your... Not in your actual development area, but in your study area, of what you're considering as relevant surrounding context. But maybe that's somehow assumed. I find where it might... I thought that whole study area was kind of to be aware of and the context of what they're looking at is the smaller part of that. The white outline is where the... is the limit of suggested potential redevelopment. It's also called the study area. Yeah. That also includes the state on buildings on the 6th Street, the Department of the Highlanders... No, the tenants that's not owned by the state. Oh, okay, it's owned by the town. No. It's owned by a private parking owner. Oh, really? Okay. I think it's kind of implied that you can't... I mean, urban land is just not going to do the study and ignore what's around it, I wouldn't think. When we had the conference call, we discussed the area and the context. We could expand the area and just be clear that they have to take that consideration. But they also recognize that they have a very limited... they have this one day that they come in and do the work, so they didn't want to over-promise what they could study for. Is your concern that they would potentially design in a... Vacuum. Yeah. I don't think they will. I have to say the context would be considered. Carol, how does this fit in with the master plan? I would like to tell you which implementation step it is, but I don't have that. And it's not really that important. But the Arlington Center has been an important planning focus for a long time. When the Larry Koff study was done, it was during the economic downturn. There really wasn't an opportunity to follow up on that. Recognizing that this is kind of the heart of Arlington Center when we had this opportunity to possibly have the ULI come in, I thought it would be a good way to kind of jump-start the planning and urban design in this area. The... I think my only concern is what similar to what Mike Boyce left be, that this fits in in line with the entire process that was just wrapped up, that is part of that implementation process and not something separate. I think that should be clear. What I can do is provide the board with the master plan context, the master plan references. The board or the ULI? This board, so that you... I think both, you know, naturally urban land is true as well, but I think it's important for the board to have an answer to how it fits in with the master plan. So I'd like to, you know, locate the sections of the plan and the implementation steps that refer to Arlington Center. I think we should also try to see if ULI can work this into their schedule later in the fall because it can bring this to the board at the September 21st meeting. You know, I'm... I think it's always great to get advice and input from anybody who wants to give it to us. I wonder how much we're really going to get out of this for one day, though. I mean, it just seems very ambitious in terms of, you know, doing a site tour or conducting interviews, working panel, working lunch. I mean, I just have a feeling in some ways we're going to be scratching the surface about really getting a lot of valuable information. That is a distinct possibility. It's a lot of work to pull something like this together. Yeah, I mean, I'm... you know, if they can do it, I'll be glad to, you know, sort of eat my words on it, but it just seems like it's... Yeah, I guess I have a lot to do in a day. Well, and if you were going to do it, I guess I'm surprised it goes beyond just Russell County or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's just kind of like brainstorming. It's just like that one site, you know, a brainstorming session on that one site. We did talk to them about... we initially said Russell County is part of the block, and they don't do single parcel developments. They carry over that. This does seem extremely ambitious. That's a lot. I want the board to be comfortable with it, and there's nothing... there's no reason we have to do this. But is it something that goes away at some point? The opportunity? Yeah. That's what I'd like to find out. In fact, if we could, you know, more than postpone it to later in the fall, there is some preliminary work that we can do with the community and really identifying stakeholders. And so what Urban Land Institute, I think we do, end up recommending different types of urban design opportunities. I don't think they would actually do sketches, but they would suggest different densities and be able to... I believe they would be able to let us know if Russell Common could support a deck and redevelopment or just a deck. It just seems to me that it might be something that also, you know, might be good to have the master of plan implementation committee, you know, involved with. Even more so than us, just to make sure that the context of it is done within the framework of the master of plan implementation staff. Yeah. I guess that would be my other concern. In the meantime, I'll speak with your Urban Land Institute and tell them that we are interested in seeing if we can put this off a little bit. The master plan implementation committee should be formed this fall and get underway. So we also could probably do some real good groundwork on this ourselves as far as getting stakeholders to identify and some objectives identified for the stakeholders and do it next year. That could be a bit of a bonding experience in the master plan implementation committee to have it. It's a real project. Yeah. It's a good thought. So we'll have some more information on that in a minute. Yeah. Next on the agenda is the designation of an ARB member to serve in the Community Preservation Act Committee. I am going to table that. Let's come up to the next meeting on the 1st of September and move to provoked minutes. A couple of comments. So on the first page, the second to last paragraph, I think it needs an introductory clause because we're shifting subjects in the agenda. But that night, so I would lead off with respect to with respect to the housing plan advisory committee, Mr. Fitzsinn has asked this while you're spoke to each candidate. And then in the line below that, where it says Mr. Kerr asked if their recommendations would create the committee power recommendation. Is that approval of their recommendations? Yeah. But I think what you're getting at was it was sort of a slate of candidates, right? Right. So I'm not quite sure how to rephrase that, but it read to me, it seemed a little awkward. I was confused and I'd been at the meeting. So maybe Mr. Kerr asked if the recommended slate if approved by the ARB would be would form the committee. Then over on the second page, the first full paragraph, the very last phrase that currently reads and essentially create a master plan, I would say and essentially create a site-specific mini master plan. Just so it doesn't sound like we're embarking on it. But we just finished. In the first full sentence, it says David A.C. and I was recoding the meeting. They were recording. That's the only thing I'm allowed to approve. Has it ended? Second? All in favor? All right. How did the letter come over? How did the select ones mean to go? It was a couple of days after. They're voting tonight on the final language of the letter. And that will go in tomorrow morning. They'll go in tomorrow morning? I believe it's going in tomorrow morning. Excuse me. Close of business tomorrow. They won't have that. And we got our letter last week. It was received. Thank you very much. Concompliment? Yes, they did. They have a very good letter. Anything else? No. We will assume on September 21st for an EDR and the follow up on Urban Legends 2. That's the whole time. Yes. Yes. And if you have any other agenda items that we should be thinking of for the 21st, please don't hesitate to email me. Don't copy each other. All right. I'll move to adjourn. Second? All in favor? Hi. Thank you. You're welcome.