 But I think what's actually significant is not the way that culture was shaped by TV, but the way that TV is shaped by culture. Good morning Hank, it's two, you're here. Good morning John. Welcome to the New Year's TV Aware. Thank you so much. You don't have to say welcome actually, because I am the CEO and it's great. He's been doing it, he's been packing socks all day, being people. Awesomesocks.club. I'll tell you what, after spending a day at the warehouse packing the socks and learning about the processes that go into getting and shipping out the coffee and the socks. I believe more than ever in this company the people who work here are so awesome as you know Hank. I don't want to sound like a CEO, but I've never been so enthusiastic about a for-profit for charity venture in my entire life. Thanks for coming out. Thanks for helping out. Yeah, it's great to be here. I'm feeling okay right now. How are you? Yeah, right now I'm about to feel worse in about four days. So I want to stop you there, and I want to ask you a serious question. I know that we've been jokety-jokety this whole time, and that's good. I want to stay jokety-joky, but I do think like you and I both have this instinct to in hard times say blabba dee, blabba dee, blabba dee, it sucks, but. And we both have it, we put the positive spin on it. It's very hard to not say but. It's very hard to not say but when you're talking about difficulty, and what I guess I would want to emphasize is that you are doing amazing, you are, as they say, tolerating the treatment brilliantly, et cetera, et cetera, but this sucks. Yeah. Like you, this sucks, you get really sick. It sucks. Yeah, it's legit. Like the chemo has a reputation that it has earned is how I came out of it. I can count on two hands the number of times I've seen Hank take a nap. Not anymore. And like a bunch of times I've seen you take a nap, it's because you're really, really seasick on a boat. You don't know how to be on. I do, it feels kind of similar to that, like that you're on a boat. You don't want to be on and you are kind of seasick. And then nobody else is on the boat either. Right. You're alone on the boat on a boat. And there's a lot of people who are on shore, like, do you need anything? And you're like, I'd like to not be on the boat. And then they're like, sorry, just stay on the boat. That's the one thing I can't do. I gotta, you gotta stay on the boat. Be really inseparable from the boat at that moment. You need you on the boat. And I'm like, I don't know a lot about boats. And I'm like, I don't either, but you got this buddy. Here's some YouTube videos about boats. YouTube's like, would you like boat videos? YouTube's like, I see that you like boat videos. That means you like boat disaster videos? I see how much you're enjoying these boat disaster videos. You know, planes also crash. I'd like to show you some plane crash videos. That has happened. I know. The chronic illness of other kinds of illnesses videos. Because we have the same YouTube. I also experienced this. And it's great in a way, right? Because it is just what? Says the guy who's not on the boat. You see Dad out there just like trying to save that tree? Is this from our dad? Just making a phone call being like, I don't know if it's true. We landscapeed a bit. To be fair, the tree doesn't look well. No, it's alive though. So it is worth his efforts. For sure. For sure. The tree is on its own boat. The tree is on its own boat. Except the difference is that it's not alone. It has Dad there on the plane. I have Dad too. Yeah, not in the same way. Like Dad can't just like stake you to the ground and be like, there you go. Standing straight up again. That's Dr. Carl's job. We love you, Dr. Carl. Because it's really the biases within culture that allow infectious disease to spread, right? Like that's the vector. At this point, yeah. We're fairly new to that experience. A lot of times in the sort of health care journey, people are like, why is it so bad? And like, lots of reasons. But it's easy to forget that 100 years ago, you didn't expect to be cured of a disease. Right. The main thing the doctor told you was, like what might have. Which direction you were headed in. So there's that, but there's also the fact that like, it does feel vaguely medieval a lot of times. Like the treatment for probably illness. Chemotherapy that like destroys your immune system doesn't feel super 21st century to me. Yeah. You know? Yeah, well the thing is, it's quite tricky and we didn't know this until we did it to distinguish between diseases that are easy. It turned out to be quite easy to cure. Right. And diseases that were very hard to cure. Yeah. So when people first started figuring out how like, antibiotics worked, they were like, holy crap. And like, you know, life expectancy is like 30 years of the course of 30 years. Yeah. And then they were like, OK, well, let's do that with cancer. And they were like, it turns out we can. Let's do it with viruses, let's do it with cancer. And that feels like a conspiracy. Yes. But it's not, it's just hard. Right. It feels like cancer should have been easy to cure in the same way that strep throat was easy to cure. It's not even one disease. Like strep throat is one disease. Cancer is a lot of diseases. I have started to think that it's silly of us to think of cancer as one disease when it's like saying, a vi- like the idea of a virus is one disease. Someone in our family just got diagnosed with basal cell carcinoma, which sounds like a cancer because it has carcinoma in it, and it is a cancer, except that because the survival rate is 100%, nobody really says they have cancer. Right. Because we associate cancer with jeopardy. They don't even include it in the cancer stance. I've learned a lot about cancer in the last couple of months. And one of the big things we both learned is how unequal access to treatment is. Like both in the United States or like in rich countries, but especially between rich countries and poor middle-income countries, it's shocking. Yeah. Even with a disease that's very treatable and like we know exactly the drugs you need to get. Right. And they're not that expensive. They're not? Like the Hodgkin's drugs are not that expensive. Yeah, yeah, my chemo is the cheapest part of my treatment. Really? It's treatment in the scans. Wow. Now if I had to switch over to the new one because along the problem, it would go from $300 of treatment to like $15,000. What, what, what? What a good system. Dr. Carol Mitnick recently had an idea for me that never crossed my mind in my 45 years of being alive, which was what if we treated illness not as an opportunity to maximize value, but as an opportunity to extend the quality and length of human lives. And like I was like, well, how would we do that? And she was like, oh, we've done it before. Like what's Wikipedia except an effort to extend the quality and length of human lives? Yeah. In a don't-for-profit kind of way. Certainly in the quality anyway. I don't know if it's, I got it on, I don't know. I feel like Wikipedia has already extended the length of my life. Wikipedia was like, here's the concept for you called micromorts, which tells you every activity you do. How many minutes of your life does it decrease? Wow. What's the worst ones? Boats, I bet. Boat kind of boats and a lot of micromorts. A lot of micromorts and boats these days. Boats aren't great. Motorcycles up there. Not the best. You know what's got even more micromorts than parasailing, actually, is a free solo rock con. Oh, I bet. That's a heavy micromort. Even if you're good at it, which I'm not. So for me, it would be like a million micromorts. Yeah, which adds up to one mort. Exactly. A whole lot. A whole lot of micromorts you need to get to one. 1.0 morts, which reminds me, Hank, at VidCon. There was a pit that you could jump into to get a squishmallow. OK? And my children jumped into the pit, and they each got two squishmallows in the pit. And it was like a full, I watched them jump. It's like 15 feet down. And I was like, this is so great, because now you have a squishmallow. And you have a squishmallow. And you can both give your lovely cousin, Warren, a squishmallow. And they said, if you want to give Warren a squishmallow, you've got to jump into the pit. And so I did. I look like an eagle in flight. You've never seen something or someone so graceful. And the best part is, after I go down through all of the squishmallows, land deep, deep inside the bottom of this pit of squishmallows, the first thing you hear my squeaky little coward voice say is, well, that was thrilling. That's terrible. That's terrible. I have a new chemo symptoms, very weird. Oh, what is it? I, for the first time in my life, have gotten two ocular migraines. Oh, like with the auras? Yeah. With no pain. I had that once. Pain came after. So like, when it was happening, no pain at all. Yeah, that's what that usually is. It's like warning of the pain to come. And it did hurt very bad after the second time. But, I mean, much scarier than what it is. Because I was like. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because it feels like you're hallucinating. It feels like I'm hallucinating. It was in both eyes. So it wasn't like an eye problem. It's a brain problem. And I'm like, OK, it's a matter of stroke. So you've got the ocular migraines. Yeah, that's a real, that was weird. Very unpleasant. I was watching Wipeout. I was like, I can't see Wipeout? You know, there's a lot of things that I used to think sucked. Wipeout is a good example. That it turns out that they're just a gift of a different kind. That's right. They're a show for a different moment than the moment I'm in, maybe. But they're not a bad show. They're just a show for a different person at a different time. I watched, like, a 19 minute video, probably because you're messing with my algorithm so much, that was just every person who's completed Wipeout over, like, 25 years. Wow. And it was tough. They weren't all gazelles. But they all did it. They all made it. Dude, dad's just still, he's still at it. You know what I think, the last shot of the video has to be the extraordinary work that dad is doing. Hank, you may be alone on the boat, but look how many people are trying to ride that ship. If I extended the metaphor too far, anyway, dad, you're the best. We love you. Hank, I'll see you right now.