 That's very secure though. Yeah, right up there with one password that I've locked myself out of. So video folks, you may wonder what's going on with my shot. I'll try to tell this story very shortly since I already told it earlier on the audio, but the movers, pure moving, highly recommend them, looked at my house and said, would you like to move today instead of tomorrow? And I'm like, yes, I would get an extra day to unpack. Absolutely. So yeah, so they're hustling and getting it all in the truck today. They were just supposed to pack today, which is why I thought I'd do the show at a studio. And so then I was telling everybody, I'll probably just cancel. I probably won't be able to make it. As I noticed all of my gear in the car because I want to move all the studio gear myself. I realized, well, you know what, I'm not going to be leaving. I could just plug the mixer into the garage, electrical outlet and do the show from the car. So I'm not driving. I'm not driving. I'm parked in the garage, but I am doing the show. Tom, do you want to introduce the show or no? We're pushing up to the showtime. It sounds like I could probably get away with that. Your audio sounds fine. Well, I mean, it's the same exact audio setup that I always know. And in a way, you're probably more in a concentrated audio booth. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, it sounds fine. I just want you to be comfortable. Yeah. Let's let's I'll go ahead and start it off. And then and then, yeah, don't don't necessarily plan for me to be there at the end because I might get pulled away by mover stuff. OK, that's fine. That's what he has to call them. My movers are here. They're great. They're a great bunch of guys. I bought them lunch and sandwiches, by the way. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. They didn't want pizza. They've had pizza. They're like, please, anything. Oh, I bet I know why it's different. So, Roger, you tell us when to go, then. All right. Well, I'm going to have to cut out this recording. So we're going to go in. But wait a minute. In five, four, three, two. Thanks to everyone who supports The Daily Tech News Show directly. To find out more, head to dailytechnewshow.com. This is The Daily Tech News for Friday, September 21, 2018. In a car in Los Angeles, I'm Tom Merritt. And from the Zudio, I am Sarah Lane. And from Sailor Snub's apartment. I'm Shannon Morse. I almost said Sailor Snub's. From a bedroom in Cleveland, I'm your artist in residence, Len Peralta. And from my fringe network on the edge of the Lake County Empire. It's me, Roger, the producer. Hi. It's me. Hello. Audio people may not notice any difference because I'm using the same equipment, but I am using it in my parked car in my garage as the movers unexpectedly are able to move me early. So I had to pack up the studio early. Well, we hope you are well ventilated, Tom, but you sound great. I am. I am both well ventilated and hopefully sounding great. All right. Well, to kick us off, let's start with a few tech things you should know. Shannon, take it away. Instagram may be testing a way to reshare posts from other accounts to your own feed. Apple reported the news based on screenshot and information from a source. Instagram, of course, denied the test, but the two screenshots of reshared posts include a business account offering merchandise for sale, which could point to the limiting of resharing posts to businesses. Apple customers in Singapore waiting in line for new iPhones. Of course, the 10S and the 10S Max received free power banks from Huawei. Yes, the packaging for the extra battery said, here's a power bank. You'll need it, courtesy of Huawei. Huawei's flagship phone, the P2 Pro, has a battery capacity of 4,000 milliamps, whereas the battery capacities for the X are excess. I knew I'd say that eventually the 10S and 10S Max are 2658 milliamps and 3174 milliamps, respectively. You're not the only person saying that wrong. Also, shots fired, Huawei. Wow. Skype calling support is coming to Alexa users later this year to allow outgoing Skype voice and video calls, except incoming Skype calls and make Skype out calls to most phone numbers around the world according to Microsoft, which also says it's working to reposition Cortana from an assistant to an assistance aide. On August 15th, Microsoft and Amazon opened up integration between Cortana and ALEXA to the public in the U.S. All right, let's talk about a few more things. Top stories this week. This one's interesting. Friday, the live stream platform, Twitch, was no longer available in the iOS app store if you were in China, rather. Twitch confirmed to Polygon it was aware of the removal, but didn't really have much to say otherwise. But for months in China, government regulators have been denying approval for various video games. At least one popular game, Monster Hunter World, had its license revoked days after launch in an official statement translated by the Washington Post after outlets Chinese regulators said they wanted to protect teenagers' eyesight, although some reports point to the government seeking to indeed crack down more specifically on gambling and addiction, although eyesight is probably, you could throw that in there too. Yeah, no, this is interesting. There's a lot of honesty in protecting the teenagers' health, probably not necessarily eyesight, although maybe with the ability to want to control video games. And so I think the knee-jerk reaction in the West will be, oh, it's more Chinese censorship and control. I'm sure that has something to do with it. But there is something beyond what's best for China in the purest, greediest sense, which is that if they sell a lot of video games, they've been trying to get video game companies to come into China. So I think this is a little more of a complex issue than people might think. And unfortunately, Twitch got caught in the business of being in the wrong content. Otherwise, I was most surprised by this story that Twitch was actually streaming in China before this. I'm one of those Westerners who automatically is very skeptical about it because it does seem like censorship. I mean, just given the history of everything that we've heard about being banned from the country and from my friends who have lived over in China and hearing about their experiences. So it does, for me, from my standpoint, seem like that. However, you're right about Twitch. I'm very surprised that they were streaming there in the first place just because of what kind of content they've had out there. In many ways, it's a little of column A and a little column B. Yes, there is definitely a concern, especially with a very paternalistic, a very generous assumption, government on the youth of the country. But also, I think it's a proactive measure that they want to possibly control something before it spins out a hand where they can no longer effectively exert enough control over it. So they're just like, well, it's getting very popular. We might as well put the heavy hand of the state down while we can before it gets too far and we will have less of the ability to control it. Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean they are not to get you. I also, I love the idea of if something is getting too popular and it's concerning regulators in China or anywhere saying, well, you know what we're concerned about? The eyesight of teens. I mean, yeah. It sounds crazy. On the other hand, it also is totally... But if you're concerned with the eyesight of teens, then you would limit internet use. And they do. You know what I mean? It kind of fits the Chinese. If you take, like, forget censorship, forget controlling political speech, a lot of the regulations that China does are like this. They're sort of like, well, this is best for you. We care about your eyes. And I care about everyone's eyes as well. But it seems like, yes, gambling addiction, but perhaps, yeah, something a little bit more censorship-based might be at play here. Well, changing the speed a little bit, we got some news from Facebook. Facebook plans to unveil its portal video chat device next week. Sources tell Cheddar. The device is reportedly, like Amazon Echo Show, available in two screen sizes and will sell for $300 to $400 USD. Facebook originally planned to announce portal at its annual F8 developer conference back in May. Portal may feature a privacy shutter that can cover the device's wide-angle video camera, which uses artificial intelligence to recognize people in the frame and follow them as they move throughout the room. Portal is also said to feature integration with Amazon's voice assistant and let users play music, watch videos, see cooking recipes, and get news briefs. Now, all of these different features that they are including down to and including that shutter, that physical shutter, from a reviewer's standpoint, like I review tons of stuff on tech thing, I've been seeing a lot more of this in devices like the Amazon devices and the Google devices and even security webcams at home that follow you around the room. So it seems like they're taking all of these awesome features that are currently available and sticking them all under the Facebook brand to make their own device. And it's probably a profitable idea, especially for people who, you know, are stuck in the Facebook world and never leave it, especially if they're, like, chatting with other people on Facebook Messenger and stuff like that. Now, Shannon, I'm going to guess that your team cover the camera on laptops. Oh, yes, I am. Right, yeah. I would assume of you. Even on my phone, I cover that all the time. Okay, so the idea of, because when I read that, I was like, oh, that's kind of a cool feature, right? You know, for people who are a paranoid, but how much would you trust Facebook to be able to cover the shutter just because you tell the company that you're moving around the room and I'm not saying that they're going to be monitoring people without their knowledge, but... But... If you're really paranoid about that, you'd still probably want to cover it in some other way yourself. Yeah, there's always a possibility. Like, I'm sure that my phone is very secure given that it's straight from Google and I get all the security updates immediately, but there's always a possibility that I might accidentally download an app that is vulnerable or something like that. And then that would give access to my camera. So I highly suggest a physical privacy shutter for any devices that you're using. Oh, go ahead, Tom. No, I was just going to say. And one that's under your control, not anybody else's. Otherwise, that's the point. Exactly. Before F8 this year, this device was rumored and apparently plans at least to announce it with great fanfare were shelved because Facebook was currently embroiled in a big data privacy crisis or at least something that they had to iron out a little bit more and this device, whether or not it was ready to be unveiled at the time, but it was rumored to be was kind of shelved. I'm still going to be surprised if Facebook has a physical device that is a runaway hit. We've seen this before. The company hasn't had besides various apps, anything that has really caught on besides its social network and of course the off-shoot social networks, Instagram and WhatsApp and other stuff that it's bought. I don't know. I had to see it to believe it, but I remain skeptical. Interesting that they're partnering with Amazon too, if that ends up to be the case. Exactly. Well, speaking of social networks, Twitter started informing some users on Friday that a bug sent private direct messages to third-party developers who were not authorized to receive them. It's my worst nightmare. People reading my DMs. The issue has persisted since May of 2017, apparently, but was resolved immediately upon discovering it, said Twitter's message which was posted on Twitter by a mashable reporter. So Twitter was talking to some news outlets and the news got out. Quote, our investigation into this issue is ongoing, but presently we have no reason to believe that any data sent to unauthorized developers was misused, said Twitter. The company also said the bug affected less than 1% of its 5 million users. Well, having no... Twitter saying, well, we have no reason to believe that anybody would want this information is not good enough. I think that's still... There's always an issue... Well, they should probably have talked about it in less than a year after it was first reported to be happening. When did they discover it, though? Well, they discovered it in May of 2017. No, no, they discovered it... The issue started in May 2017. Yeah, they discovered it September 10th of this year. And it looks like they resolved it pretty quickly afterwards, which is good that they fixed it pretty quickly afterwards, but how did none of these developers ever report it for the year that it was ongoing unless they... Probably because they were like, yay, we're getting information and no one was... Maybe. Well, they may not have realized it was in there. But they did report it to a database and it was just wallowing away because they didn't know they were getting it because they weren't supposed to. The problem with Twitter DMs is that they are not encrypted. So if anybody is going to see your DMs and anybody can see those DMs. So I highly suggest to everybody out there listening, if you do use Twitter DMs to talk to people, don't send over private information that you wouldn't necessarily want to be shared because anybody can screenshot those. Or DM through text message and accidentally post it to Twitter publicly for instance. That would be so weird if anybody... That would be a really dumb thing to do and something you'd only admit that you're moving out of that house. That's a bad idea, Tom. Well, moving on. Starting today, PlayStation Now will now let you subscribers download PS4 and PS2 games on the service. Almost all PS4 games in the service like God of War 3, Remastered, NBA 2K16 and until Dawn will be downloadable as well as PlayStation Now lineup of classic PS2 games remastered for PS4. The PS4 will still need to connect to the Internet every few days to verify the user's PlayStation Now account. The reason why this is really cool and pretty exciting for PlayStation users, it's only going to be available currently on PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 4 Pro, I believe. But they were having issues and a lot of feedback, negative feedback that people would experience lag whenever they were trying to stream games. So now that you can download them, that's the really important part. You can download them straight to your console and you can play them as much as you want, which is absolutely wonderful. You don't have to worry about audio or video sync issues. You don't have to worry about lag and your button meshes, nothing like that. What's really kind of unset here is a tacit admission that game streaming still isn't quite all the way there yet. Now, people can put up with lag in video, right? You can maybe miss a syllable or a constant or a word. But if you're playing a very fast, intensive, very twitchable game, you're going to want as much of the fidelity as you can possibly get because that's the difference between winning or losing depending on what you play. And it's not unlike what Xbox already has with Xbox games where you basically subscribe to a game service. You don't need Xbox Gold subscription. You can just pay the month or the year. Well, PlayStation has a similar thing with PlayStation Plus, too. Well, this is the thing. PlayStation Plus allows you to get a free downloadable game, but this is essentially a catalog all at once instead of just being piecemeal. No, I'm comparing the Xbox thing to the PlayStation thing. Well, the Xbox has an entire catalog that you can play. So if you pay this subscription... There's a wider choice. Yes. The new PlayStation Now functionality reminds me of downloading a movie from Netflix, right? It's like, hey, you got the whole catalog that's streaming, but now you can watch it offline. Here you can play the video game offline. Exactly. The UK government wants to create new internet regulation that would make tech companies liable for content published on their platforms and have the power to sanction companies that fail to take down illegal material and hate speech if it's within longer than the hours that the UK regulators want to want to determine. UK regulators are also looking at implementing age verifications for users of Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. The new proposals are still in the development stage and are due to be put out for consultation later this year. A spokesperson for the government confirmed it is considering all options, including a regulatory committee in general. I'm not against the idea of having an institution set up to handle how things were, you know, complaints for the internet basically, right? I think that's needed in the United States as well. The FCC is not the right place for it. There should be an institution that is knowledgeable about the internet. It should do as little as possible, I think. It should only interfere when absolutely necessary. But, you know, I'm sort of torn on it. On the one hand, you're going to have the government handle complaints about the internet one way or the other and have to regulate it one way or the other. So it's the right idea to set up something that is meant for the internet. Not try to repurpose something meant for television or something else. But the way they're talking about it here also sounds like it's way too intrusive, which is always the danger in setting up a regulatory agency. I'm all for and I'm kind of weird being in the hacker, you know, community, but I'm a little weird about my feels towards regulations. In some senses, they're a good thing. I like some regulations from the governments. I think that it's a generally a positive effect. However, sometimes they are too heavy-handed and I start considering and looking at like the own company that I run with run for with hack five. Would this affect like our online forum where users can post comments they can post their own posts if they want to and people can reply to them they can post images and links and stuff like that would this affect our community because if we were if we were in the UK and we only had a few hours to take something down and nobody took something down would they regulate us under this as well. Given that we're a small team of four or five people, that would be very, very hard to do. But when you look at this from a broader perspective of bigger companies, it sounds like a good idea. Yeah, regulate them more and make sure that they don't have a bunch of hate speech on there and stuff like that. I think my main question of something like this is okay, this isn't necessarily a bad thing and yes, having a group of people who are monitoring social networks for the greater good of the public of various countries and the human life in general. Great, that sounds great in theory. Who are those people? What are their credentials? Do they work for the government already? Not sure that that is a requirement really at this point in our day and age. Who are the people who should be shaping these sorts of laws and regulations and how do current governments evolve really and expand to make sure that the laws that are being passed actually are in the best interests of the people that they represent. Such a good question and to me such a missed opportunity to not look at the way the internet governs itself already and try to borrow from that. Why not create an independent group of experts that are overseen by the government and that's your regulatory agency? I think you could actually get people excited about it if you included the existing internet governance people in our country governance for the internet and worked with the government rather than what it seems like the UK is doing and what generally you hear which is let's just take what we do for other things and do it again on the internet. Well, we look forward to everyone's feedback on this feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. I'm sure we'll be talking about this issue more and more as we move forward into I don't know whatever our new modern world is to get all the tech headlines though each day in about five minutes or less subscribe to dailytechheadlines.com it's the perfect companion to our very show here. Alright, let's get into our main discussion story. Shannon, I know that this was actually suggested by you so I'll go ahead and set it up and then I'll get your thoughts. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration or the N-H-T-C-A T-S-A rather has given the Tesla Model 3 five star ratings in every single category those categories include overall front overall side side barrier side pull and roll over categories sounds good right Tesla's Model S and Model X both received five star ratings in the past however not everybody has given Tesla such high marks. The Model 3 got docked by consumer reports for a long 60 to 100 I believe miles per hour braking distance. Oh no, it's 60 to zero because it's braking. Oh 60 to zero of course. Braking, thank you Tom. Which Tesla initially countered saying well no we have our own tests and we've consistently demonstrated 133 foot braking distance in the past. Then Tesla promised a firmware revision to address the problem. More or less sort of saying okay there was a little bit of a problem and then consumer reports retested the car and chose to issue a recommendation but Tesla is under quite a bit of scrutiny for all sorts of things. Now not all of it has to do with braking or how good the Model 3 is but Shannon how much do you think that CEO Elon Musk the company in general and the you know the the hardware firmware promises of the car have to do with what Tesla is going to be looking like in the future. That's a good question. Tesla for a long time now they've been experiencing a history of negative feedback from crashes that they have experienced they've had people who have passed away however who was at fault is still up for debate depending on the case that we look at so they've had a lot of those kind of issues and every time we have noticed a lot of pushback from Elon Musk especially on Twitter for example where he says that you know it's not our fault this is not our fault completely but with the NHTSA giving them out a 5 star rating in all of the different categories which is not it's not super popular that they always do that it's somewhat rare that they give out 5 stars in all of the different categories so that's a really good positive note to add I am curious though if you know things like firmware hacks or the firmware security or things like that could be affected that would end up lowering that rating in the future if some kind of vulnerability is were set in place and given that this car is so you know run by computers so much they really need to consider that in their ratings and I'm not sure if the NHTSA does that currently or if they just straight up look at you know the sides and the front bumpers and the way that it manages safety based on their history of tests not testing anything that has to do with the computer itself yeah the NHTSA is saying based on the standard safety test for all cars which we have not looked in to find out the last time they were updated but I will guess are not updated as fast as technology is improved for things like the Tesla says you know let's say it's as safe as a car from 2008 right like that's not bad what consumer reports is saying is well but those NHTSA safety tests are not as great as what we would like to do because we are going to go above and beyond basically we are going to test things that they don't that's what it sounds like to me that's why I really appreciated consumer reports reporting on this and how they tested it to find things that were involved outside of what the NHTSA was looking for with their 5-star testing and the fact that Tesla did come back and notably did update it with a firmware update that was positive that we should say you know hey good job on you Tesla for doing that the fact that they did that does mean that they are listening so I appreciate that they went back and did this after consumer reports however I don't think that they should have had to do it after somebody reported with negative feedback this should have been something that was available from the start I also wonder how much and again this is you know CEO anybody in charge of a hugely influential and successful in certain ways companies you know whose feet should be held to the fire for kind of being weird Elon Musk is he he says and does some strange things but some of it is not inconsequential Tesla is under investigation by the justice department we've talked about this on a previous episode of DTNS over statements that Elon Musk made that criminal probe investigators are saying we might have a securities issue because he had said he was contemplating taking Tesla private had funding secured for the deal and then that sort of went away and there are stock prices involved and you know however that shakes out it's something that has raised some eyebrows Elon Musk was also on a recent episode of the Joe Rogan show for anybody who watches that you've probably already seen this apparently smoking marijuana which is legal in the state of California where the show was recorded but it does tend to put a spotlight on a person rather than a company making technological innovations and how much does that take away from what Tesla could be doing if we weren't all focused on what Elon Musk was doing I tended to say look if it actually materially impacts things like disclosing that you might take the company private on Twitter in a way that could manipulate the stock price yeah you should investigate that be careful or if you're saying things about people that could lead to lawsuits that could end up costing time and money to the founder that's worth noting smoking on the Joe Rogan show that's a personal decision whether you want to support somebody that does that I don't think that materially impacts well I don't either but I I'd love to know who would be put off by this in the sense that they would support Tesla for sure well thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit whether you smoke weed or not we love you submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com hey guys it's Friday Facebook.com birthday is me so I can't not like him somewhat oh well you know happy birthday to you both next year I know you both celebrated it recently we're also on Facebook if you want to hang out with us on Facebook great facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show is where to hang out with us there as well alright so Shannon I don't know how much you followed Amazon's hardware announcements yesterday I probably there were about 900 of them and got a lot of feedback we tried to cover it in as much detail as we could yesterday which was quite an effort actually Colin had some thoughts on echo auto in it specifically Colin says I suspect a lot of AVS users use a different assistant on their phone in the car and they want to provide a way to do everything within their ecosystem that they already have this could step into a neat you would find a position between a variety of bluetooth and aux auxiliary devices in a car I have a bluetooth for phone calls and then I use the phones aux jack for music so that the phone can understand how to switch back and forth a single device that could route everything and also act as a voice assistant and control no brainer for me might not be as useful in more modern cars I have a 2012 model and it probably won't have a long life as a product category but it gets Amazon into the car space today without having to build a whole ecosystem like android auto or car play well I'm able to activate both Google assistant and Siri just with my voice but that is because I have more recent android and iOS phones so maybe that's why I guess if you have an older phone this is still a concern for you so okay there's a segment of the audience right there I do love the idea of seeing it as a router for your car that just simplifies things that does make it make a little more sense to me I'm still skeptical that I need it yeah so far I'm in the same boat I've never needed a voice assistant in my car my phone my android phone just connects automatically to the Ford operating system and I'm able to make calls and do text via voice which is really nice and I can play music over bluetooth and that's really all I need in a car because anything else I feel like would be a little bit too much distraction for me with that said though there's been a lot of echo devices that have come out for example home subcategory I forget the name that they go under but anchor came out with a device that you can plug into your cigarette lighter port and it would connect to the Amazon echo which is a really cool little feature I think that's the thing right there's so many cool odb port things out there I'm disappointed this doesn't do that yeah exactly so not sure I would use it I'm probably not the market for it somebody probably is I think I'm gonna get one of those Amazon clocks I just am the clock does look cool I know I like the way it looks yeah I don't even care if it has different colors but anyway as these hardware and a lot of the stuff is some of it's rolling out now some of it's before the holidays so I think we'll have a lot of feedback on how people feel on the various hardware announcements of which there were many if you missed them check out our show from yesterday but now let's check in with Len Peralta who's been busy illustrating lots of stuff we've been talking on the show Len yes so I know you just 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this is the dinner Monday I slept in the car all weekend uh this show is part of the frog pants network frog pants network get more shows like this at frog pants dot com timing club hopes you have enjoyed this program boy did I so I made it all the way through and someone in the chat room wanted when we were talking about things in the car they're like let's see what's in your car so uh here's here's my there's my mixer yeah what are you eating that's dedication I'm telling you chicken sandwich and then that is is it from Chick-fil-A? no it's from some place in Santa Monica I just ordered on Uber I did a little of that last night as well this is the this is the the Heil Mike in the uh mic stand sitting next to the car so there you go so are the movers actually inside your house packing everything up for you? yeah yeah they're pulling things into the truck right now do they think you're weird? the main guy just kind of laughed like I can't tell if he thinks it's stupid or funny or both and you know for a fact that they are just sort of putting it in a van and they can get over to you into a house right it's not just like they're putting it into a van in a truck I've not heard the truck drive away Eileen has not come running and screaming so oh good Eileen's there okay they have some supervision wait so just for everybody who's been sort of following along are you sleeping in your new house yet? no but we will be tonight tonight is when it like really is official how exciting I mean originally we thought we would be sleeping on the floor tonight because everything would be packed but getting it all done in one day like this is going to be amazing that's so cool oh that's exciting especially on a Friday because then you got the weekend to kind of work it out you actually have possession of it right now oh somebody said the video was locked on Sarah before I fixed it well but they couldn't see the stuff so they want to see the video again here there's the sandwich Roger I'll be been mowing you the $20 $20 for that later on there's the wrap up there's everything with the stuff there you go okay second look don't podcast and drive yeah I feel like yeah if you had to stop shorts you know the mic might go into your forehead but otherwise it seems like a pretty good setup yeah no I don't think we should call the show that because on audio it's a bare mention at the beginning of the show so it doesn't really make sense I honestly don't even sound any different yeah yeah well no that's the beauty of the hyal mic man you can take it in a freaking garage I am telling you no net please we're British well China stops twitching Tom is well ventilated Tesla shocks with high ratings Tesla shocked with high ratings I like that one I like that one I'm actually gonna bob out of here early today not a problem thank you for being part of the show no that was great it was actually really fun I enjoyed that quite a bit okay well um happy new home thank you very much welcome can't wait to see more of it I've seen some very cool wall paint colors mm-hmm at your leisure you can give us a tour more to come soon enjoy see you Tom I just want to let our listeners know the show will be a little slower coming out today because I need to edit it out of this big good day internet file and I can't do that until I stop recording the show is over and I am still recording on my end as well and Verizon has informed me I tried to log in with invalid credentials too many times and now I'm locked out I just have to call them but it's like imagine how many people are calling Verizon right now because they've done this I don't know maybe maybe I'll get lucky but I have a feeling it'll be like your wait time is nine hours notice how we no longer we just kind of resigned ourselves to that it's like well you know once upon a time that was like oh my gosh I have to be on but now you just kind of like put it on speaker and try to ignore it as much as possible and if a company is really good with customer service they do that thing where they're like we'll just call you back when we're ready because you're you know we're going to have an RQ which works nicely as well so just before I take off this is pretty interesting I decided to put together a family tree has anybody ever done that before yes well my dad did he did it on a really huge excel sheet and he made or was it excel I don't know maybe it was a different graphical program I'm doing it through my heritage which is pretty cool oh no he did he just used some kind of software that he had although maybe it was like special heritage software but he made a huge family tree that dated back to like the 1700s or 1600s super cool it was awesome yeah it was very very cool yeah I am I'm getting at least on my mom's side I'm back like four generations I think to like wow 1800s let me sit here that's so cool it is really cool it's you know what it is this is why I like it because there's this geeky thing to it so it's sort of like collecting trading cards oh do totally like oh yes this person do you have information about this guy and and at least on my heritage when you put it in then if there's historical records and things there's like it opens up brand new trees yeah kind of like oh it's really super cool yeah it's amazing it is amazing I'm glad I started doing it so I'm doing it not only for my side of the family but also for my wife's side of the family which is awesome so yeah so I'm doing it like for my kids benefit because and it's just it's cool because I found out I had all these cousins I never knew I had do you have to pay for my heritage to be able to do that I do I pay for it but I can invite contributors in they don't have to pay for it they can just look at it and add things but I'm the guy who pays for it so well that's nice you can invite other people though yes yes probably a lot easier than having to talk to them constantly and be like hey do you have this info well I am using Facebook to connect with some relatives who are overseas and cousins I never knew and they're kind of giving me all this information and it's great because once I plug that in that it like opens up other searchable things yeah wow I would love to know how far back you can get your family tree it depends at least for this it seems it depends on who else is sort of a nerd about it and doing it and just how far any historical records go you know because yeah you know somebody has to do the research it's still it's not just going to show up but some of the figure out like how how far it goes because it does go pretty dang far and it's cool the other thing I notice I don't know if you notice this in your family tree but repeating names people yes keep on repeating over and over again yeah we have a ton of that in our family like what are your what are the names that repeat in your family um John and Ralph Ralph yeah I know in that weird my grandpa was William Ralph but he went by Ralph Ralph you know the other thing that makes uh my really hard to research at least my dad side of the family is everybody has nicknames so like people don't remember what their real names are and it seems like everybody has a has a nickname so like my sister told me today that like oh I met our cousin and I was introduced to him as Ting Ting that was a name are you serious like his god given name is Ting Ting there's another guy named boy like boy what it's like the mafia like Jimmy no knows or something impossible to search these people luckily I don't have that problem with our family everybody knows everybody's real name mostly because my grandma calls everybody by their first name if she if she's mad she'll yell it out I have a I have a brother in law who whose father in law gave different names to everyone of his children and he's got like 11 children so he would call like if a kid's name is Paul he's Brooks if uh you know Mary Claire her name is Tina and it's like what I know it's there's like no similarity there no sense at all it's so confusing absolutely confusing I have a lot of those in my family as well one of my cousins name is Mary but we call her Molly it's not official that's just her name yeah when anyone calls her Mary the rest of us are like what what are you doing but that's her name on you know all official documents my aunt's name is Claire but she goes by Trish my my wife's aunt was known as Patsy but her real name was Mary and um you know it's funny because if Tom were here he'd know exactly what I was talking about because in Eileen's family he has someone named Sonny he has someone named June Boy it's like this strange thing for Filipinos I don't know Chinese we don't have that you don't have any nicknames in China we do but they don't translate the same way people don't call them by their nickname correct or do they you can but like if it's a nickname it'll usually be an English name it depends I mean you have Chinese Chinese ones as well let everyone know stop in the live broadcast but we're picking the rest of this conversation over at the audio stream alright thank you and see you guys next week goodbye video folks see you next week