 Welcome, everybody. We now have a quorum, but we're going to wait another five minutes for a few board members to hop on And we will be sure starting shortly. Thank you Member fennel if you could do a mic check for us, please Can you hear me? Yes, thank you Member Garrett if you could do a video on a mic check for us, please Member Garrett if you could do a video in a mic check for us, please Can you hear me? Hello Great, we can hear you. Thank you Okay, there I am perfect and we can see you. Thank you so much. Uh-huh So I can leave right? I mean I can go back to stop the video. Yes, go ahead. Thank you member Huang if you could do a video on a mic check, please Hello Great, we can see and hear you. Thank you so much Great Hi, chair music. This is the host just want to let you know that staff is ready when you are it appears We do have a quorum and all members that are supposed to be here are here And just so other board members are aware We are doing a quasi hybrid meeting where chair Musa is in the chamber So if you can be a little patient with us, we are learning some new tech tonight But hopefully we'll run smooth. Thank you. We're ready to begin Hey, welcome everybody members of the public and Cultural Heritage Board like to call to order the August 4th cultural Heritage Board meeting and Mr. Maloney if we could do a roll call Thank You chair Musa let the record reflect that all commissioners are present except Board members are present except board member gale thank you, mr. Maloney and Before we get started just want to make a statement. We are doing the meeting a little bit different once again with COVID Our staff lays on Susie Murray and myself are at City Hall and with that we are following Protocol coveted protocols. So that's you will see us both wearing masks through the meeting We are trying out some new systems. So there may be a few hiccups along the way so hopefully everybody will just kind of bear with us and and We'll we'll get through this and eventually have a smooth run and ship With that I'd like to say that Due to the provision so the governor's executive order in 25 20 and in 29 20 which to spend certain requirements of the Brown Act and The order of the health officer of the county of Sonoma to shelter in place to minimize the spread of COVID-19 The cultural Heritage Board is conducting today's meeting in a virtual setting using zoom webinar Board members and staff are presenting from remote locations and or practicing appropriate social distancing Members of the public may view and listen to the meeting as noted on the city's website and as noted on the agenda members of the public wishing to speak during Any of the items Public comment or doing during public hearing items We'll be able to do so by raising their hand and will be given the ability to address the board Moving on to item 2 of the agenda Approval of the minutes. Do we have any? additions or changes from our fellow board members from the Last meetings minutes Chairman so we actually don't have any minutes to approve yet. I am still working on last meetings They'll be coming soon. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Lai At this time, I'd like to open a public comment We now open public comment for any item not included in this meeting's agenda If you wish to make a comment via zoom Please select the raise hand button if you are dialing in via telephone Please dial star 9 to raise your hand each speaker has three minutes a countdown timer will appear For the convenience of the speaker and viewers Please make sure you to unmute yourself when you are invited to do so your microphone will be muted at the end of that countdown Mr. Maloney if you less know if we have any members of the public would like to comment Thank You chair. Yes, sir. No one's raising their hand at this time. It looks like we have two members of public logged in with us tonight Okay, thank you, and we'll Just give them a couple minutes just in case They want a comment Okay, saying no members of the public wanted to comment. I will close the public comment period Moving on to item for board business I'll start out by reading our statement of purpose The cultural heritage board shall consider the following matters standards guidelines and criteria to the extent applicable in Determining whether to grant or deny a permit Whether proposed change is consistent or incompatible with the architectural period of the building Whether proposed change is compatible with any adjacent or nearby landmark structures or preservation district structures whether the color textures materials Finstrations Decorative features and details proposed are consistent with the period and or are compatible with adjacent structures Whether proposed changes destroys or adversely affects an important architectural feature or features the secretary of interior standards for rehabilitation and guidelines for Rehabilitating historic buildings Such other matters criteria and standards may be adopted by resolution of the cultural heritage board Staff ways on Murray. I believe that concludes our board business at that time. Are you aware of any other board business? I'm not aware of any other board business, but I have a few things when we get to the department reports Well, guess what we're up item 5 department reports, so Staff ways on Susan Murray. No department reports as as chair musir said We're kind of testing the waters with the hybrid meetings coming up in the relatively near future I think our target at this point is to be online with hybrid meetings in October and I will look to or open the opportunity up for future meetings for any of the cultural heritage board members to Get their toes wet and come on in and try the electronics here in at City Hall Before then so in council chambers I have another big announcement and I will send this out to you. I'm fogging up here I will send that out to you via via text message and email and everything else as we get closer, but effective September 1st We are going to kick off with 430 start times on our meetings So staff has been working With the Planning Commission with the design review board and the cultural heritage board to get us all aligned with the same start Time and after pulling everybody it sounds like 430 is going to be the most workable time So if you have any conflicts, please let me know as soon as possible You don't need to do that tonight. You can email me privately but And if you could go ahead and update all your meetings so that you you are here. You're not here two hours early Let's see And then I have a request. I have a request that item 7.3, which is the procedures regulations and rules Document that that be continued to the agenda of September 1st When we will also be having the Rosenberg's rules of order and Conflict of interest discussion with the city attorney's office and a presentation from the deputy director of parks about Fremont Park So something to look forward to So with that I will wait until the item is presented for Chair Muser to recommend that we go ahead and continue that last item And that concludes my department reports Thank you miss Murray. I actually need to jump back up to 4.2 a board member reports I skipped over that just case any of our cultural heritage board members have anything they would like to report at this time I had two things just to mention I Positive this is the appropriate time, but I wanted to report on meeting with Peter Stanley about the 34 6th Street project I think a few other board members also met with him So I went down to the site and he gave me kind of the brief synopsis of the project I don't think there's anything substantive to share that people don't already know but just wanted to report that I did that And someone else reached out to me. I have not met with him yet, but it's scheduled for next week and that's for 320 College Avenue a proposal. He says that he has put it forward a few times Taking in comments from neighbors and the design review board and he wanted to show it to The cultural heritage board before it comes before us in the fall That's it for me. Thank you board member pretzels say any other members Or member born. I don't know why the little Little raised hand didn't go up but I also met with I went down to 6th Street and Saw the project and I also got the same email that Member pretzel said had so I don't have an appointment with them as yet Thank you board member born, okay, and the only other thing I'd like to mention is with this hybrid system It's really important that we have board members here and the council chamber in the future So I will always try to make a commitment to be here and come to the council chamber I'm hoping the vice chair if I can't make it will will come and any other board members that feel comfortable With coming down to City Hall and it will also join us It's they've got it set up pretty pretty well here Probably the only thing is you got to wear a mask versus at home. You wouldn't have to wear a mask, but anyway That concludes my report with with that. I'll I'll close board member reports And moving on to item 6 statement of its abstentions by board members. Do we have any statement of abstentions? Okay seeing none We'll move on then to our first item 7.1 downtown stationary historic resource the evaluation update and Our presenter is a city planner sharing meets Hi, good afternoon chair and user and members of the cultural heritage board I'm going to do the awkward shared screen. So bear with me for just a moment, please So tonight I'm before you to talk about the downtown stationary historic resource evaluation project and some of you are Well aware of the project, but we have some new faces on the board So it's a nice opportunity to introduce the project talk about how we got to Doing the project why we're doing it what we're hoping to accomplish with the project I'll give a little bit of information about where we are and then Big surprise not really a big surprise, but the reason we started doing this not only is it just a great idea Is the downtown stationary a specific plan includes a policy that we need to evaluate and Write a historic context statement about age eligible projects properties within the downtown station area And these are going to be projects that are outside of existing preservation districts But that are age eligible for potential listing out of california national or local level We're looking at properties that were constructed prior to 1975 in this project And there's about 627 plus or minus That are being considered and the reason we're doing the Properties that are outside of an existing preservation district is that properties in The preservation districts they have some protections and Certain things that have to be looked at prior to any type of alteration or Addition that type of thing and these other properties the 627 that we're looking at It's actually more than that, but We'll go with that as around as an estimate. They don't have any of those same protections So that's why we focused in on those particular properties And what's the evaluation include first step is the reconnaissance level survey and inventory and that has already been accomplished the fieldwork for that has been done The architects hit the ground running and we're out and about taking pictures and looking at Every, you know, every property that could potentially Show some signs of being historically significant And for each of the properties there will be a 523 a form filled out And pictures and a database and all that good stuff There the architects are in the process right now of drafting a historic context statement Which as you all know is really important in terms of determining Significance of a property. It's not just architectural. It's where does it fit into the community's history and and how we became the city that we are Once that's done, they're going to do an intensive level survey with all the background research You know who lived here, you know looking at anything that elevates the property Beyond just what kind of shape it's in or how old it is That could elevate it to being a significant resource After that, they're going to complete a historic resource evaluation report Which will detail all the methodologies What their findings are their suggestions maps database All of that good information and once we have that We'll bring it all back to you guys as a presentation of the final report and Just everything about the project that up until that point And why we're doing this uh multiple reasons where As everybody knows the downtown stationary specific plan was passed with an eye on increasing development downtown So that's been a goal to increase infill development and bring housing and an additional development downtown but we don't want that to be at the expense of Properties that are historically significant to our community and our community members So it's looking at both. It's looking at how we can increase infill development And how we can at the same time identify those properties that would need additional sequel review or You know Would require a lot more work to touch if you will so It's twofold and the ultimate goal is to Just really find out what we have that's considered significant And the background here We sent out a request for proposals in november of last year They were due to in december. We received four very qualified proposals We held interviews with all four firms on december 14th and the selection committee included The members that you see here. We even had former cultural heritage board member john mcqueo As a great contributor to that process After that we ranked them we scored them We looked at who we thought would do the best job for us and could do the job for us and architectural resources group was selected Council approved their uh contract in march of this year And we had the first meeting with them in april of this year and since then like i mentioned they've been on the ground running They've been in the office. They've been at the library. They've been at the county facilities getting any background information on all old building permits As well as doing the reconnaissance survey and actually looking at at buildings and neighborhoods So that's kind of a background for where we're at Mainly we we also want to have you join us if you can for a project kickoff meeting It's after your next cultural heritage board meeting And you'll hear some of the same stuff that i just reported probably in a little more detail because we're hoping a lot of members of the public will attend And they won't be as familiar with the vernacular And the architectural resources group staff will be able to give you an overview of what they've found And their process and goals We're also hoping to hear from the public About what they find important and what they're hoping to get out of this project And have the opportunity to ask questions about the project So the zoom information is here. It's also on the website Which is dedicated to the project at Let's connect sr.com downtown station area historic resource evaluation So that's a good place for people to Have an opportunity to even place on a map someplace they find That they want us to look more into provide stories about Why they consider a certain place important ask questions There's a frequent frequently asked question section where folks can go there and say well, what does this even mean? What are these forms you're talking about? So it's we're trying to keep that up to date and we'll obviously update it again after we have the public outreach meeting But yeah, that's pretty much all I came here to do was give you that little brief snapshot and answer any Hopefully easy questions the technical ones. I'm going to leave to the consultant And I'll stop sharing and come back and chat with you Thank you miss me at this time I'd like to Let's see. Should we go with public if there's any public that would like to comment on presentation Yeah, well, let's do that next So is there any members of the public who would like to make comment? We're not taking any action on this item. So it's just your opportunity to provide miss bees with some input Yeah, chair chair musry if you can open up the public comment officially public hearing Okay, so I'm opening public comment officially Thank you. And with that we have one hand raised it is a Denise H She's be one moment Just be one moment Thank you, Denise. We've now given you permission to speak if you can unmute your microphone. I want you to start We will start the timer Okay, can you hear me? Yes, we can Okay, great Hey, I had two questions one is where can we get more information on the company that's doing the Surveys the architectural resources group is that posted their bio posted somewhere on the city website And my second question is on this On the evaluations once they're done And the report is out. Does that mean that a developer can develop On a site that is potentially historic and avoid having to do a sequa portion of The process It's will that excuse them from being able to do the sequa portion of any process that involves with that development And those are my two questions Through the chair Would you like me to answer? Thank you so much. Yes. Go ahead jump in there. Sure. Hold on before we before we answer any questions We need to close public comment Go through and then you can answer questions at the end Okay, we'll we'll give you an opportunity after we close public comment. So Mr. Mulaney, do we have any other public comment? Thank you chair Muser at this time. No one else is raising their hand Okay with that I'd like to officially close public comment. Thank you. Thank you So the two questions that were asked, um, I don't believe there is a bio posted on the project website That's actually a fantastic idea and I will make sure that that gets put up there Um And in terms of avoiding sequa on projects that are potentially historic absolutely not that this is not going to This would only streamline sequa for Properties that are not significant if they are significant They will absolutely have to go through a much more detailed An intensive secret process this time. Let's turn it back then to the board Do we have any board members that have any questions for? That's me. If so raise your hand. Okay, sing na It looks like we do have a hand raised. Oh, we do have a great zealous Can I go? Oh, there it is board member. No or no Sorry, we're having technical difficulties here. Just so the board's aware. Uh, member pretzelis. Let's start with you Just so the board's aware. This is uh the host. Um, like I said, we are working on some new tech tonight the Board members that are sitting at the dais don't have an easy screen that they can see your hands raised They're having to look across the room at tv's that technology will be changing soon But just so you're aware chair muser does not have a good visual of you guys at this time So you might have to speak up if you do want to Be called on I I'll also suggest that maybe you just wave your hand Do it the old-fashioned way because we can see you real clearly. We just can't see the little electronic hand All right, so you have the chair Okay, my question really kind of piggybacking on uh, the other question, you know, what what role does the cultural heritage board have in Uh, responding to any recommendations or evaluations that are put forth in this report Um, because obviously it does have significance for you know development down the road So if you know, is there a room for us to respond to evaluations? That are made by this firm That was a wonderful question. Um, I don't have a specific answer for that and I will look into it and get back to you guys I know we plan to bring the draft Report to you before it anything happens, you know becoming a final draft But I will would you like to actually see Say the dpr forms before we even get to a draft report. Is that what you were hoping for? I think I think it would be important that we do stay involved and we do know kind of what you know, what direction the report's taking So yes, I think Yes, I I agree also board member borne um What are the parameters of the downtown area? Is there an app is there our street? um The definitions of the area There's actually a map. Um on the the website that I posted to you We also have planning planner nickle son On who is going to be giving a presentation later who actually gives you exactly where that is um So she'll be able to fill in the blanks as well And it's important when you consider that that you there are a lot of overlaps between the preservation districts And those properties like I mentioned before because there are already certain levels of protection involved for them They weren't included in this process it will only be the areas within the area that planner nickle son will show to you that are Outside of the preservation districts Yeah, there are board member questions Not seeing any I just have um one question And that involves actually the communication towards the property owner of um of the Structures that are identified in this survey as far as what type of communication and also Implications for the property owners So that uh for example if And maybe you can answer this if it becomes if it's identified As a significant structure and I wanted to Do something that would within a historic district require a major landmark alteration would would these structures then require to have a major landmark alteration and and uh, I know when the neighborhoods Were formed there was a lot of communication, you know with homeowners as to what implications would be if they became a historic district And I'm just wondering if if there's communication being planned or already may be Being done with the property owners of the identified Structures We actually just have not gotten there yet. We've only done the initial reconnaissance level survey and have not reached out to any of the The property owners that are flagged as potentially significant um the consultants will know more about their plan in terms of how to Reach out to the we'll work together in other words to develop a You know a plan for that and a process for that But that isn't something we've gotten to yet Um, and I apologize this meeting was actually just supposed to be like an introduction and some of these text Questions I can get answers to and I'm happy to and bring them back to the board Um, but I just don't have the information at this time and um, yeah, and and I'm sorry if we're really barraging you with uh, with a lot of questions and stuff but we really appreciate you taking the time and uh, we know you'll Look into these things and and I know we'll have a time that we'll be able to get back together and and go further with this So this just you know first step absolutely So please if there are other questions just I apologize that I can't answer them off the top But I I will do the research and get back to you. So feel free to answer the ask the questions any board members have anything else if we can close item 7.1 and move to item 7.2 bear with me here Chair Muser I can you speak up just a little bit louder? I'm having a really or yeah get closer Okay. Yeah, sorry about that Is that better? Much. Thank you. It's the mask Okay, 7.2 study session downtown station area specific plan overview and training Um, so staff will provide an overview of the recently adopted downtown station area specific plan And highlight changes to the zoning code That affect the cultural heritage board and I think for our board members. It's important to to recognize that The zoning code changes Which then affect our rules and regulations Which is 7.3 That's going to get Continued but These zoning code changes are it's it's kind of Water under the bridge. It's already been adopted by this so the this station area A specific plan has already been adopted Um, I think the purpose of the study session is because we have new board members is to bring everybody kind of up to date and give opportunity for you to Clarify and ask questions Especially regarding areas where historic districts overlap, you know, commercial areas within the Station area plan. So anyway Without rambling any further We'll go ahead. Amy plan our Amy Nicholson as our presenter and Amy will you've got the floor Great. Thank you so much. Jeremy sir and members of the cultural heritage board I'm going to go ahead and pull up my presentation here Just a moment. I want to make sure my display is right Okay Sorry about that So as I've mentioned this the purpose or this presentation is on the downtown stationary specific plan and recent zoning code amendments and then How those amendments Affect the historic preservation districts and also the cultural heritage board As term user mentioned the downtown stationary specific plan Has been adopted. It was presented to this board last summer and then the zoning code text amendments were presented in the fall These were adopted by the council in October November of last year And the purpose of this presentation today is really just to provide an overview of the specific plan And to detail some of the changes that were made to the zoning code Which impact decisions that the sport makes This slide here shows the land uses within the downtown station area specific plan area And this area is Roughly based on a half mile radius from the smart station site It's bounded by college avenue to the north and dutton avenue and emwally gardens to the west sabastopol avenue and highway 12 to the south And brookwood avenue to the east The downtown plan created four new land use designations and zoning districts And so those are the ones that are bulleted on the right portion of the slide these land use designations allow for a broader range of land uses and they also Have their own set of development and design standards If you look at this graphic, you'll note that there are large areas of yellow and orange and these are colors that Um represent our low and medium low and medium density residential areas So those areas which are primarily within our preservation districts did not Experience any change with the adoption of this plan The new land uses are shown in the brown pink and red shades And our those areas are primarily outside of the preservation districts, but there is some overlap So i've circled those areas in yellow. So in these cases These new standards that i'm going to be walking through what apply to projects within preservation districts But again, these are just these areas shown in yellow here This slide here shows Floor area ratio maximum the floor area ratio or far was introduced as a part of this downtown station area specific plan and it helps to regulate building mass and form But in in a different way than what the city typically does which is through density and height standards So this map Shows the various far maximums that are assigned to the properties that Have the new land use designation And these range from as low as two which is shown in the kind of light purple color All the way up to eight which is around kind of the core of downtown And courthouse square So floor area ratio gives essentially a number which is What's the total allowable building area that can be constructed on a site? And this number is derived from the product of the site in square footage To multiplied by the far value. So for example, if there is a project site that is 40,000 square feet and the far is two Then an 80,000 square foot building could be constructed And this can be broken up into A number of different stories. So it could be To a two-story building with 40,000 square feet per floor or it could be You know go up further and In height, but the the overall square footage of each floor is reduced um, so as I I mentioned just a moment ago all of the properties with those new land use designations do have far values with the exception of a few Contributor properties which are found along b street in the st. Rose preservation district and many of the board members will remember that discussion And again the areas within the preservation districts that have far values assigned to them are circled here in yellow another item to note Although far doesn't regulate height directly properties that are within one of the city's preservation districts are within what's called a historic combining district and so these areas Do not allow for building heights that exceed 35 feet unless the cultural heritage board Or the city council makes specific findings to allow that height increase. So that standard still applies regardless of the downtown plan There are a number of new site design and building placement standards And these are again implemented through those four new land use designation And these standards address items like building setbacks and tower separation requirements the location of on-site parking and also Requirements for shadow analysis Building design is also regulated through these four new land use designations This is a little bit atypical for the city of santa rosa We typically have a lot of development standards for things like setbacks and height and lot coverage But not so much for design design is typically We typically look at the design guidelines, which are more discretionary or flexible in nature But there are a number of design standards that are now included in the zoning code for properties That fall within those new land use designations And these design standards address A variety of concepts including dimensional relief and the requirement for four-sided architecture or consistent material use Transparency and also the inclusion of ground level elements The downtown stationery specific plan also includes What are called transition areas and an overlay area? So this map here shows Where those additional standards apply and i'm going to walk through Each of these spending more time on the neighborhood transition Which is most I think relevant to this board But this map shows the triangles for where these standards apply And so you will note that there are a number of blue triangles that are around the preservation districts The preservation districts are shown on this map in that kind of beige color So the neighborhood transition was developed to reduce the visual impact of new development On most of the lower density residential areas in particular the preservation districts Depending on the location of the new development Either the first two bullet points or sub bullet points would apply Or the third one So this transition requires Front setbacks that are more extensive than what would typically be required. They also require building step backs over Three stories and a daylight plane over six stories This transition also prohibits surface parking areas between the sidewalk and the building frontage In cases where a new development would impact Existing preservation districts For example, like on santa rosa avenue Where we have burbank gardens We would apply these standards to the rear side of that development And so those step backs would help to reduce the visual impact Just to quickly walk through other transitions. There's a downtown transition Which requires building step back An additional amount above certain segments of Fourth and fifth street There are three segments along the santa rosa creek with an activation area And so those any new development there is required to promote Both the use and visibility of the creek And then there's the active ground floor overlay. This applies pretty broadly throughout the downtown It doesn't regulate allowed uses But it does require that new development enhance the pedestrian experience some other changes made to the Zone encode as a result of this plan include Some additions to the historic combining district This is basically all of our preservation fall within this combining district and it includes those additional protective standards like the 35 foot height requirement It also includes a number of character defining elements for our eight preservation district and So essentially this section on character defining elements was bolstered up with a lot of information from a cultural heritage board resolution 209 this was adopted back in 2006 which helps to Set the historic context for our preservation district for any developer architect or property owner and then these district specific frameworks can be used by city staff This board the city council when evaluating projects within these specific preservation districts There were also some amendments made to our historic and cultural preservation chapter of the zoning code One is minor It looks small, but it's important and it's that the 2017 secretary of interior standards is cited But there was also an addition of a few minor exemptions from the landmark alteration process One example being the addition of of skylights that could not be seen From the public right away One of the the bigger changes that I wanted to spend some time talking through Was the change to the design review and landmark alteration process so One change is that if there is a project which requires both design review and cultural heritage board approval They that project would come before Both boards at the same time For concept review and so this concept review provides an opportunity for Both of the boards to provide comments That are specific to that board's purview And then the applicant team can take that information Modify their plans and when they come back Hopefully they've been able to Include some of those those considerations So in the past this was actually an optional process for it to be a joint review meeting, but staff has found that it is effective to hear From both the boards at the same time and so that is now memorialized in the code And then we also made a modification to the design review approval process in the past the cultural heritage board acted on the design review entitlement with the design review board members now They those processes are entirely separate So the cultural heritage board acts independently on landmark alteration permits and the design review board acts independently on design review permits And then one additional change The cultural heritage board quorum section was modified in the past we had to have four Four board members vote in favor of a project or deny a project for that action to be considered Now that requirement has been modified to be the majority of the quorum voting one way or another And this just helps to keep projects moving through the process Either way This slide here reflects some added or amended criteria for decision When the cultural heritage board receives a resolution that staff has drafted recommending either approval or denial of a project These are things that staff has considered through their review And then also that the board considers prior to taking action on a landmark alteration permit So these four bullet points on this slide reflect what actually has been added or amended And then the next slide will show all of the criteria So two additions are for zoning code consistency and also general plan and specific plan consistency these weren't previously included but considering that You know the cultural heritage board and staff are really looking that projects are are implementing these guiding documents in the city code This felt like to be an important add another change relates to compatibility of proposed development And and so the first part of this criteria remains the same The modification is that The compatibility occurs with the new development and Properties that have been identified as contributors to that respective district that defines that criteria a little bit more And then the fourth change was updating that secretary secretary of interior standard year So this slide reflects each of the criteria with the unchanged ones called out here in bold So this Just for informational purposes One is that the consistency of the proposed change Is consistent with the original architectural style and details of the building the consistency And or compatibility of the proposed textures materials Venestration and decorative features and details with the time period of the building's construction Whether the proposed change will destroy or adversely affect important architectural features And then the last one which would be other matters or criteria adopted by resolution by the board And i'm not aware of anything that falls into that category But miss murray might be able to add more to that So that concludes my presentation. I'll stop screen sharing and i'm happy to answer any questions Okay, thank you miss at this time. I'd like to open a public comment And this is opportunity if we have any members of the public who would like to Ask any questions or make any comment miss nickle son Thank you chair music At this time no one is raising their hands and we have one member of the public in attendance on the zoom meeting Okay, thank you, mr. Mulaney I'm not seeing any members of the public wanting to comment. I'm closed officially closed public comment And um like to uh turn this back to our board members If any of our board members have uh questions for miss nickle son Okay, not seeing any at this time. I do have one and if you'll bear with me just for a second And I just got to find it here Okay, um and and not Not to put you on the spot. Hopefully and if if you don't have an answer to this, it's that's okay But um on the criteria is for decision um, I was just wondering if you could um On the item that says whether proposed change implements the general plan And any applicable specific plan um If you could expand on that a little better, maybe give a little better definition of what what that what that statement means I'm just pulling up that slide so I could Read it. Um, so that And susie or miss burry might be able to add um on to to my comments, but essentially we're Looking to make sure that a project is consistent with um Goals and policies that are in the general plan and any specific plan So if you know and if we're talking about the downtown We would want to make sure that a new development Is consistent with the plan as a whole so it's um The the design the the youth If they're if we're not talking about properties with far that the proposed Density falls within the the density range that's within the general plan. Um, and these are things beyond just um Development standards and design and density too. They also include um consistency with policies circulation policies or open space policies, so it is um A lengthy review that planning staff do When we're looking at projects, we want to ensure that they're consistent with those vision documents that the city has for Specific areas such as a specific plan area or just the broader city at large Not sure if that helps to answer that question Oh, yes. Thank you very much Any other board member questions Board member borne Um, yeah, I was just curious what your time frame on all of this are any projects in the works? Is it all still being planned so the changes that I just went through have been in effect for I guess about nine months now But we're we do have projects that are coming in in our downtown plan area and um, so we're We're getting the experience of using these new sections of our zoning code and reviewing Development review projects for consistency with the new specific plan And and this is uh, suzie And I'm just going to go ahead and chime in and say that um, there are actually several projects that are Coming down the pike to you guys right now, which is a part of the reason for all these trainings So you do have several um larger residential projects coming to you for review and the other thing that I would like to comment on is that during um During those concept design meetings that are now required for those types of projects downtown that require both a landmark alteration and a design review It's really the cultural heritage cultural heritage boards opportunity to let Not just the applicant, but the design review board and staff know what it is about those projects That you think needs to be protected character defining elements if it's not consistent in the neighborhood That it's in and and whatnot So express your concerns at that point and give the applicant and staff An opportunity to report back to when that project comes to you as um a hearing item an action item um So and when it does come to you as an action item It will only be to the cultural heritage board As a landmark alteration you will not be involved going from this point forward or since the the the approval of these changes You will not be involved in the design review so And if I can chime in also the nice thing is the um, there's a zoning code Um That's applicable to the design review board that identifies historic areas as well So the design review board actually has some responsibilities um when looking at uh applications that are within historic districts or if they're um have been identified as a historic structure Any other question for board members? I guess I should ask also board member born. Did that answer your question? Okay Well, I guess with that then um, I'd like to thank Um, miss nixson for excellent presentation. I really appreciate you taking the time to Come in and inform us. I know it's going to be an ongoing process these overlaying um districts h districts, you know within The station area plan. I I know of two projects on my mind right now that are that are coming up and um It'll be uh, it'll be an interesting process when we they come before us at the board Thank you very much for the opportunity and I'm happy to answer any Follow-up questions that the board might have Okay, with that we'll close out then item 7.2 Move on to item 7.3 and item 7.3 Which was Introducing the cultural heritage board procedures rules and regulations Which will supersede the existing rules and regulations We have been requested by staff to continue this item to a future meeting so that There can be some further research and evaluation. It also gives Us as board members an opportunity to communicate with miss murray As we read these the new zoning changes and zoning codes and have have questions And just you know Just to say again the way this The sequence of events has happened is the station the downtown station area plan created the zoning code changes that affected the cultural heritage board and those zoning code changes then affected our rules and regulations and so it's kind of the That a tumble down effect Some of the things there's probably some flexibility in and the rules and regulations and other things there may not be because the zoning code dictates, you know that particular item, but anyway, but don't hesitate to ask questions or make comment or suggest changes To miss murray. She's very good at getting back to us and letting us know what we can do what we can't do So with that continuing That item I think that's the last item on our agenda and I'd like to go ahead and call for adjournment And thank everybody for their presence today and invite you to come sit with me at city hall at the next meeting. So If you feel free This meeting's adjourned Thank you Great job