 Hey, welcome to the get lab asked me anything. I'm said the CEO of get lab and This is about answering questions, so feel free to speak up if you have one Hey said, what do you think about the news of Atlassian killing off hipchats? Stride. Yeah It's it's it's kind of a shock to the system. It's it's big news. I Feel sorry for all the people that Stayed on hipchat and that adopted stride and I feel a bit sorry for the for the developers at Atlassian that made those products Chat is a Hard market It takes a with chat you both got to be on the same tool currently so it takes two to tango Which which means there's kind of it's a classic network effect category where you'll have a few big winners And and apparently Stride wasn't going at a pace that it it should I'm sure Atlassian had good technical reasons But I always found it a bit interesting that like they had lots of usage on hipchat and that product and kind of got Still and not evolve and then they introduced something new But now you have all that additional friction of having people move over But that that's it might be that hipchat was really made for on-prem and they needed something that was more multi-tenant I remember seeing presentations. I think about hipchats storing everything in elastic search as their primary database Not sure how that turned out Those users will now have to migrate obviously a lot will be going to slack But it's a great opportunity for the open source Companies there a git lab comes bundled with matter most and I'm exchanging messages Like a minute ago with Ian Chen the CEO of matter most They want to make a great importer for hipchat But they've been running into trouble with that and I I Said look if you're running into trouble, maybe Maybe do a blog post. He just did that. I'll link it in the Here and maybe someone a moderator can also link it on on YouTube Because you need to be a moderator I think to post a URL there So that's gonna happen. It's gonna be to make great migration I really am rooting for like an open source project to to to win there apart from matter most There's two others. There's rocket chat great people as well, and there's there's matrix and matrix is interesting because Because it's federated so instead of us having all to run the same software to communicate You can run different pieces of software that will work kind of like even how email works but Yeah, it's it's a It's a tough market where there hasn't been the break out open source competitor to take on a slack So I hope this will be the moment where someone steps up And then I'm rooting a bit for matter most because we bundle them with get lot. Hey, Sid John may actually had a question, but he wasn't one of the lucky basket for So at Google next there was a lot of talk about our partnership with Google But they also like announced their CI offering Google cloud build He wanted to know do you see that as complementary or competitive and how it might impact our relationship to Google? Yeah, it's it's not going to impact our relationship We're not in the business of exclusive partnerships or forcing people to use something We're not in the business of saying. Oh, that's from Microsoft. So we won't use it. We're multi cloud We want people to use the best things across different across different clouds So good lab ships with the web ID based on the monaco editor from VS code which I use as well Even though Microsoft also owns github, which is our competitor we use lots of the open source stuff that github made and Well, we might even add support for the for Google cloud build So we'll see so I think it's cool that they're Google's releasing something everything that makes developers better and offers them more choices is great I Do think developers already had a lot of choices. They could use circle or Jenkins or Travis and now also cloud build I think our strength is that everything works out of the box and And I see good labs. Yeah, I just getting stronger and stronger with like J unit tests artifacts it's It's it's getting better the whole time. So I'm not worried about good labs. See I hurting because of this And thanks for articulating the question from John Suri assignment. I just chatted a tree asked. What is your super power? But that's a hard question Please I'm not a super person. So let's not make that Don't think I think that I think I'm way better than average in seeing where a market will go and I had that a few times while I was just reading technology for like, hmm, that's interesting and Sometimes it's the obvious things like Kubernetes that one was pretty easy to spot and we we bet on Kubernetes really really early I Think good lab was one where I saw like wow, that's interesting. I think that's great I think a project that project is in a very in it is in a sweet spot And that's gonna go a long way and I'm gonna do something with it. I also have my Big misses sometimes one of the previous companies I thought that would be an app store for web apps with unified billing and things like that and turn out there wasn't gonna be one and Camille when he said to integrate get lapsy. I would get lab. I said that was Not if not a good thing because we should have many sharp tools that you could compose instead of this big monolith application Turns out that was wrong too. It turned out really really well and and we learned that there's many emergent benefits to having a single application So sometimes you learn but I tend to be be pretty early in spotting and a market trend In the YouTube chat So I'm not working at get lab. I'll ask why he can't work for get lab because he's in Iran So there's different reasons Why people are on the exclusion list and it can be it can be many things. I think in the case of Iran I think it's because of Sanctions, but I'm not sure we're not commenting on that country by country. So this is a guess for my part We'd love to hire people everywhere. I think we're now hiring in 250 Countries, but yeah, if you're in one of those countries, that's on the list of countries We we cannot hire people in that's bad I had someone in the boardroom yesterday from Japan big contributor to get lab big fan and Japan is on that list and I'm sorry, unfortunately There's all kinds of loss that that sometimes prevent us from from doing what what's right to to people But but we have to stay compliant as a company Clement asks get labbers have options to exercise by their shares. How does that work with you and DC? Just curious y'all buy shares or do you go just grant them to yourselves? Um Well, that's interesting where I never talked about that publicly when you start a company the great thing is that like a hundred percent of the company belongs to the co-founders and Then when we um When we raised our a round By the way, that's a mistake. What you should do when you start a company you should have vesting in place So if one of the co-founders leaves after a year They get only a third of the stock so there's that they don't get the full allotment of stock even though they put in only a quarter of the work So when you start a company you should split it amongst the co-founders And then have a vesting in place I recommend just standard four years with a one-year cliff like we do for everyone We didn't do that. Uh, so not so smart of us, but turned out okay We were a couple of years in when we raised our uh a round and they said hey, you never had vesting Let's put you both on a four-year vesting with a one-year cliff and we're like Well, we to meet you Already spent four years doing this and I spent years doing this. So that doesn't make sense So he said, you know what? Dimitri spent four years. So he's fully vested. So he gets His part of the shares he got completely. I still have to vest one year. So I'll take a quarter of my stock But then I want to be on the same vesting schedule as everyone else in the company. So that quarter I started vesting in Like when did the transaction close like almost uh 15? With a four-year vesting one-year cliff like everyone else. So I'm I'm still getting that I'm still vesting that part of the stock Someone said that's really weird that you're vesting kind of stocking your own company, but I don't think that's weird at all um Suri asked if gitlab were acquired by an org that doesn't traditionally allow for remote work Would we still be able to work remotely after the acquisition? um, I don't know that depends on what the acquirer wants um More likely than not there would not be the remote work culture that we currently have at gitlab. So that's why We prefer to stay independent and we're going as fast as we can to try to IPO in On november 18 2020 is if you get acquired you you always dilute part of your company culture Now you also might gain something But we uh, we prefer to stay independent From the youtube chat for ladio ask Hi all we are using gitlab community edition very spectacular product There is a way to integrate the jankins pipeline build result directly in the merge request tab We trigger a pipeline every time a merge request is open or you get new pushes I know that you have other dev ops ci saw that Did you have a similar thing for discussions in the merge request? um I think what you're looking for but I might be misinterpreting it But there's a jankins plugin for gitlab and it's it should be linked somewhere I'm sure someone will link it in the youtube chat And then if you use that plugin Jenkins works totally fine with gitlab. So anytime you push new code gets send out to jankins and then the The commit status api is used to uh to show the result Now they ask what's the best question the candidate has ever asked you while you were interviewing and adia feel free to speak up if you're in this this call instead of chatting but um There's so many great questions I like it when they when they when they found something in the handbook that isn't consistent So I love those I love questions about like where they see something in the market happening and they ask for feedback But that especially if it's like not a super obvious thing I love it if they ask the the questions that are just super obvious Like how are you going to be best in class um in 10 different product categories? Like yes, you should be worried about that and we're worried about that But yeah, we're going to get there because it's not just us. It's It's a co-creation with our users Great answer. Thanks, cid Thanks naia for asking Hey, cid, I've got a question from emily in uh in slack, which is What worse, uh, she was again not lucky enough to join This uh google hangout, but the question is What are some of the things you hope people get out of uh this year's summit or this month's summit almost it's august soon Yeah, it's going to be in the month. Um, what I hope the the goal of the summit is to get to know each other better and Both on a personal level and on on a professional level And that's so that's the goal to to add some that to the relationship And normally while we work we try to work asynchronous It's a bit there. I say transactional like you if you ask a question you get an answer you Uh, you work like that you try to you try to get results and stay efficient The summit is a time where we have a week We don't have anything to accomplish and we can just spend time together and to get to know each other better Now, hopefully we don't only do that at the summit. We also do it throughout the week in our uh in our company call talking about life outside of works with coffee chats and in all kinds of other things um, but the summit is uh Is an environment that that is very conducive to it and hang out together going to excursions doing the user-generated content sessions which are mostly about Well, maybe not a there may be about work, but not about specific work things like last year the most popular sessions was how to prevent burnout and how to motivate yourself like those kind of like broad topics, uh, I think are are great, uh to to bring some depth to the relationship Uh In the end you want to work with a collection of people not a collection of robots and and to realize world people and not robots We we the summit certainly helps Suri asked what did you eat for dinner last night? It was the pork chop Suri. Um It was in a thing called salt, uh Karen, I want to go out for dinner and propose to eat downstairs We where we can get food from international Uh international smoke Um, which is a great restaurant, but I was like, let's let's go for a walk The walk was one block which was great because it's super cold outside and I didn't bring a jacket Hey, Sid, um You know while we're on the food topic, I'll bring it up. Um, I recently read an article and now we're now we're I mean as you as we are a global company I read that peanut butter and jelly is not a really big thing around the world And I was wondering if you've ever embraced this wonderful combination or if you have a go-to snack that you like better Yeah, I I think I use peanut butter and jelly to say how good good lab goes along with kubernetes Uh on the uh on the day of the gke on-prem announcement I have done peanut butter and jelly and uh, I'm from the net let's so we got something else you can Do peanut butter jelly, but you can add chocolate sprinkles on top And I if you're not into chocolate sprinkles like it's a legit legitimate way in the netherlands to eat chocolate for breakfast Which is amazing. So I think uh If you're having it with my wife, make sure you bring the dark chocolate chocolate sprinkles and not the cacao fantasy ones that don't contain a lot of cacao at all That's it From the youtube chat Connor bradley With my cmo hat on can you share some of my insights on combating market awareness problems over the next period? um so one of the big Problems that we have at get lab is that Most of the world doesn't know who we are what we Doesn't know we exist. So that's a problem Then if they know we exist they are like, yeah, it's I think it's version control But maybe a bit of ci instead of that we're making A single application for the whole devops life cycle all the way From planning something to monitoring it including a container registry and release management and all those things so That is a story we Need to tell I think what really helped was github getting acquired and people looking at like, okay after github. What's next? I think we put ourselves on the radar as like The next thing Now we're going to build on that and we'll do that in many many different forms The content team is going to produce Five articles a week with interviews with experts, which I think will be really interesting We're going to up our spend on Things like advertising and and things that work We're we're getting better at attributing our marketing efforts So lots of things happening over the next couple of weeks and months to To increase that but it's also up to all of you to to tell everyone and to have that story ready every time you meet someone There's a youtube chat. I can't totally decipher it You're waiting for 11.2 when you release it. So we had to do a monthly release So things are released on the 22nd of every month So on august 22nd, we'll release 11.2 Connor ask my thoughts on how we intend to address the product challenge of when a customer is already using github Yet still unaware of the breadth of features they have paid for it. That's a great question We're going to start a growth marketing team And they are going to focus on like Getting more people into github and I wonder in github having them use more features One of the things we could consider is called internal advertising where you said like we fair to give a to a display a message to um A user once a month by something they might be interested in What are like the signals? Won't you we display that message like github now announce a feature for example if you have a docker file They'll remind you of the ci service things like that And then also measure the conversion like how many people clicked on it and actually did something So there's going to be a team that's focused on that But if you have a way to enhance that of course, please do that too mark asks Github was 7.5 billion. Where's github at today? Do you see the github acquisition or positive or negative? So First of all if you get acquired the price tends to be a bit higher than like The financial valuation or what you would get in a financing or trade for on the stock exchange And then they were much bigger than us they uh Our revenues in the tens of millions there was in the hundreds of millions. So there's quite a big difference Was it a positive or negative? I think it was a win-win-win. I think it was Good for github to have that exit. Uh, I think it was very smart of microsoft to buy them But I also think it was really awesome for us. Uh, it put us On the map as the independence dev ops tooling and I think since more and more companies are going multicloud They want a dev ops tool set that's easy to work with throughout the company that supports everything they need Where they don't have to spend a lot of time Integrating everything but that is multicloud that is that is not owned by one of the major cloud vendors and where they can deploy to Any cloud and uh, and we're that and I think that's a great position to be in in the marketplace they said Okay said, um, I was gonna ask I know at get lab. We've done quite a lot of Good work in terms of improving our diversity and inclusion over the past past year past Year and a half and I wanted to know of those Things that we've done hiring in more countries and looking up to opening more countries and getting A lot of more people involved in different laws in get lab. What excites you the most and What do you think we need to do more work on? Yeah I'm I'm excited just about the the diversity or we already have both For example, geographically, it's just like more for the countries. That's just that's off the charts for a company our size um I think we're hiring people from all kinds of different backgrounds Like not just the tech people but also people that that come from different industries that have different experiences I'm very excited yesterday. I approved a recruiter focused on africa Or we're gonna do active outreach just in probably just in africa or maybe a bit broader But the person had a lot of experience in africa. So i'm really excited about that where we hire recruiters for specific Uh vegans now Nadia is already living in south africa But I think she she's working a bit too hard So she could use a bit of support and I think The active outreach allows us to Not just find the people that are supercruiting to this ecosystem That send a job application that that have that perfect resume that have all the buzzwords but find a Find the people that have the skills But but might not be aware that we even exist. Uh, so I think we can Get even better people in and more diverse people in if we if we Reach out actively and I'm super excited that we're doing more of that Um some questions in chat. Oh no, uh first, uh, kyla you were also speaking of Thanks so much. Um So I just had a question. Uh gitlab has been honored to win, uh, the google cloud partner award for innovative developer solution at google next recently What did receiving this award mean to you personally? Thanks for that. I think I think I really appreciate how google is an amazing partner to us There were multiple keynotes at the conference where they showed off gitlab on state and mentioned it and I I'm really honored that they see the potential of gitlab as as The tool that will make kubernetes easier to use So kubernetes is the future. It's still very It's kind of hard to use today and like it's all about you got to understand a lot of concepts Start editing yaml files things like that with gitlab It's just push your code and gitlab takes care of the rest and they see that Potential and I'm really excited by that and really honored that they That they're willing to partner with a small startup Thanks so much Thanks, I'll handle a few questions in chat. Oh, we got three minutes. So I'll I'll try to keep it brief How do you handle to sleep? Well at night? um With so many things in your hand Well, first of all, you don't know whether I sleep well at night now. Good thing is I actually do um, I go to bed early and I don't know that right now the company is doing really well I think I'm worried if if our revenue is it's not Where we want it right now it is so I get to sleep. Well Yeah, go to go to bed early and and you do what you can you can't influence everything. So try to be very very Mindful of my sphere of influence Like I can I can't control partners. I can't control the macro economic things I can't control a lot of things now as CEO obviously I can control a lot of things in gel app But uh, you got a in the end not every every decision is yours and you got to live with that as well Priyanka asks, how have you messaged your stress levels and burnout? um Yeah, well uh Don't work too long. Uh, and then also take vacations So for example this year I went to Peru went to the amazon jungle without cell phone coverage I think the most healthy thing about that is that you discover that you can be out and that everything still goes Kind slightly better than when you were there. So I think that's always really important to recognize that. Hey, you know You hired good people and they they'll do a great job independent of you Joseph asks, what are you passionate about outside of work? um So like hobbies are like skiing and sailing I also think that One of the biggest problems in the world is a discrimination based on nationality I think we all kind of got a got a bit used to it where if you have a different passport, it's it's okay To have different rights. I think I think it's not okay. Um, I'm trying to Trying to get some fixes in But that's good. That's that's kind of a bigger project What book are you reading right now? Someone I get like recommended to read behind the clouds from um From mark benioff from sales force Next book is probably going to be the phoenix projects, which uh a devops book by uh Jun Kim. I'm ashamed. I haven't read it yet. So gotta fix that What kind of animal would I write into battle a lion because I was bored in august 3? I'm gonna go on safari before our company summit And I think that's that's it. We're 29 minutes. Thanks everyone. Have a great day