 Well, the point is that we really want to be in a position where we can combine theory, policy, and practitioners in one spot so they can discuss the extent to which they agree with what they disagree and how they can work together to improve outcomes. Well, I thought the session with Sims and Reese was the most interesting in part because it talked a lot about historical episodes and how those historical episodes of big fiscal deficits and high inflation or low inflation periods, how we ought to be thinking about them today because some of those things are similar as they're happening today.